Sorry but Gardners should have put a turbo on there engines years before they did like British truck makers let the foreign truck makers get there there foot in the door the rest is history unfortunately .Big cam Cummins man myself unbreakable👌
good engines these as they where used in service busses and seemed good lumps what i have seen and reaserched much rather this engine than a modern day engine this engine will run rings round modern stuff
Robert Casement. You’ve got to be kidding,these engines were simple and easily maintained but that’s all they had going for them apart from total reliability of the NON TURBO engine. Their power output was pathetic for modern day transport,I worked as a fitter in the sixties and Nothing came close to them but along came Scania and Volvo which changed everything. Gardner wouldn’t move with the times and ignored what was staring them in the face but totally ignored it,Cat,Cummins and Rolls Royce amongst others appeared and swept the market and that was Gardner done. RIP.
Oh lord, I've just had flashbacks of the old ERF tippers of the early 80s with non turbo Gardner engines. They wouldnt pull the skin off custard! Reliable though.
The 6HLXCT in buses had a nasty habit of catching fire, no doubt due to Gardner's infamous 'piss out oil everywhere' straight onto a scorching hot turbo
I take it this vehicle was empty when they were doing this trial because the 230 BHP turbo Gardner wouldn't pull you out of bed loaded and were knackered at 100,000 miles. This was probably the worst engine Gardner ever made, I drove an eight wheeled Foden tipper with this engine and a nine speed Fuller gearbox and it was the worst piece of gutless shit I have ever driven. The firm I worked for bought a fleet of these vehicles and not one of them were any good, there replacements came with Rolls Royce engines in and what a difference that made they were brilliant. Gardner were never in favour of turbocharging their engines and only did it to keep up with the competition but the trouble was their slow revving old fashioned designs couldn't cope with the stresses that a turbocharger put on the components within the engine. The 150 LX and 180 LXB engines were faultless and lasted for a million miles but Gardner for whatever reason couldn't adapt to the ever growing demand for power that Volvo and Scania did effortlessly with great performance and reliability that Gardner had previously enjoyed and this finished them forever, RIP.
It was unit only bobtail, it did all right but it was meant to have a 8LXCT 300hp in her and the conversion wasnt pretty. The 6LXCT shattered a piston and grabbed a liner so it will probably get a Cummins now as 8 pot turbos are hard to find.
Nick Steggel, Not surprised at it seizing and pulling a liner down, that turbo ruined a good engine, like Leyland Gardner wouldn't intercool their engines for whatever reasons, this made the inlet charge too hot and consequently the temperatures in the cylinders caused piston failures and all Gardner did was to fit an oil cooler, Leyland had the same problems with the 500 series engine and by not intercooling it they would seize up for no apparent reason, being a fixed head engine and the block was also in one piece there was no ware for it to expand so local hot spots occurred and seized up a couple of Pistons all because they wouldn't fit intercoolers. Scania and Volvo highly charged their engines but fitted large intercoolers and never had the overheating problem hence their realiability and power.
@@davidellis279 in my case I think it dropped an injector and cooked the piston. The engine and fan being a good foot or so from the radiator wouldn't have helped (whoever converted it from 8 pot didn't move the gearbox forward to suit the 6 pot)
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Don't need the radio on while listening to that wonderful engine note.
Memories of to old b series eight wheelers and other ERF we used to have when I worked on the funfairs back in the late 90's
The absolute" BEST "of british
In my opinion the absolute best diesel bar none period!
Symphony, our and simple.
Thanks. It’s beautiful
What an epic soundtrack!!!!
sounded well but the engine was poorly fitted before I bought the truck and unfortunately died a painful death on the M6
Sounds fab!
Gardner, best sounding engine ever, only ruined when turbo's started to be fitted.
Nah, they wouldnt pull me out of bed without a turbo although they where bullet proof.
Prefer the sound of the leyland 0680 myself.
Sorry but Gardners should have put a turbo on there engines years before they did like British truck makers let the foreign truck makers get there there foot in the door the rest is history unfortunately .Big cam Cummins man myself unbreakable👌
How good does that sound 👌
good engines these as they where used in service busses and seemed good lumps what i have seen and reaserched much rather this engine than a modern day engine this engine will run rings round modern stuff
You. Are. Having. A. Laugh😁
2 words scania v8
Robert Casement. You’ve got to be kidding,these engines were simple and easily maintained but that’s all they had going for them apart from total reliability of the NON TURBO engine. Their power output was pathetic for modern day transport,I worked as a fitter in the sixties and Nothing came close to them but along came Scania and Volvo which changed everything. Gardner wouldn’t move with the times and ignored what was staring them in the face but totally ignored it,Cat,Cummins and Rolls Royce amongst others appeared and swept the market and that was Gardner done. RIP.
Memories
nice ol growl
Oh lord, I've just had flashbacks of the old ERF tippers of the early 80s with non turbo Gardner engines. They wouldnt pull the skin off custard! Reliable though.
The 6HLXCT in buses had a nasty habit of catching fire, no doubt due to Gardner's infamous 'piss out oil everywhere' straight onto a scorching hot turbo
not an issue when they stand upright lol
what became of this one nick ?? what happened to the truck is it still running?
the engine blew up so shes parked up at the moment
have you thought about repowering it with a cummins or rolls or do you just want to keep it original? im mates with stuart jp
I did buy an L10 for it... but I sold it stu as i found the correct 8cyl gardner for it
On the way to kelsall?
Coming back from Kelsall I think
L10's wouldnt be hard to get hold of used in Ford cargo leyland volvo buses etc.
What's it hauling?
Bobtail in that video just bloody steep hill from a dead stop
turbo or naturally aspirated engine
Turbo as per description 😉
just curious,what gearbox has this old girl got?
kev1973 eaton fuller i think
9spd road ranger
I take it this vehicle was empty when they were doing this trial because the 230 BHP turbo Gardner wouldn't pull you out of bed loaded and were knackered at 100,000 miles. This was probably the worst engine Gardner ever made, I drove an eight wheeled Foden tipper with this engine and a nine speed Fuller gearbox and it was the worst piece of gutless shit I have ever driven. The firm I worked for bought a fleet of these vehicles and not one of them were any good, there replacements came with Rolls Royce engines in and what a difference that made they were brilliant. Gardner were never in favour of turbocharging their engines and only did it to keep up with the competition but the trouble was their slow revving old fashioned designs couldn't cope with the stresses that a turbocharger put on the components within the engine. The 150 LX and 180 LXB engines were faultless and lasted for a million miles but Gardner for whatever reason couldn't adapt to the ever growing demand for power that Volvo and Scania did effortlessly with great performance and reliability that Gardner had previously enjoyed and this finished them forever, RIP.
It was unit only bobtail, it did all right but it was meant to have a 8LXCT 300hp in her and the conversion wasnt pretty.
The 6LXCT shattered a piston and grabbed a liner so it will probably get a Cummins now as 8 pot turbos are hard to find.
Nick Steggel, Not surprised at it seizing and pulling a liner down, that turbo ruined a good engine, like Leyland Gardner wouldn't intercool their engines for whatever reasons, this made the inlet charge too hot and consequently the temperatures in the cylinders caused piston failures and all Gardner did was to fit an oil cooler, Leyland had the same problems with the 500 series engine and by not intercooling it they would seize up for no apparent reason, being a fixed head engine and the block was also in one piece there was no ware for it to expand so local hot spots occurred and seized up a couple of Pistons all because they wouldn't fit intercoolers. Scania and Volvo highly charged their engines but fitted large intercoolers and never had the overheating problem hence their realiability and power.
@@davidellis279 in my case I think it dropped an injector and cooked the piston.
The engine and fan being a good foot or so from the radiator wouldn't have helped (whoever converted it from 8 pot didn't move the gearbox forward to suit the 6 pot)
An ERF fitted with a Gardner, what could possibly be worse...
it was a lovely truck tbh
Nick Steggel The few rare Turbo Gardners where ok but the non turbo Gardners couldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding. Ran forever though.
@@johnm400uk Gardner management refused to move with the times. Engines not up to turbo standards.