Hard disagree on what was said about Lee, he’s too risky and unlike most high tiers he doesn’t have any power mids to lock an opponent down for pressure. He dies for all of his lows if blocked, poking is subpar especially since his df1 nerf and it not crushing jabs anymore, and a lot of his moves and strings are sidestep left. Lee just relies on people playing stupid and people with bad defense, but once he goes up against a competent player with good defense that knows to just side step left he’s hard to work with. It’s like once you know the matchup you almost never lose to a Lee again
Feng Wei has no glaring weakness, he is like a 7/10 when it comes to eveything he does and taking into consideration his lack of heavy hitting stagger punisher, If they were to give Feng Kazuyas WR2, id put him ahead of Nina and Drag.
Ehh the tier listings don't reflect reality especially the tournaments. It's like knees Feng or low high or Numan Ch Steve. These characters work in the hands of players who've been playing them for years and training camps with the best of the best players in the world. Otherwise Steve in the hands of an unknown tournament player doesn't reach top 50. The one I disagree most with is Dragunov because that character is consistently top 5 or there are 2-3 Dragunovs in top 10. Claudio Bryan Jin hype is overrated. Especially Jin. Every pro is placing Jin at top 3 but even in the hands of book CBM Devilster Arsenality the character barely reaches top 8. Maybe this list is focused on online meta but even there the Steve Claudio Rena win loss ratio is abysmal to justify this tier list
Bryan is hard to play, but he is not weak at all. I dont downplay him, the buffs paid off. Completely agree with his spot, he is very strong in this game.
@@skeem201 needs them. Preach strongest but he has too many interruptible moves. His heat is arguably one of the worst in game because demo man is only treatable super close and the leg sweep has to hit.
I honestly don't understand how everyone sleeps on Alisa. She's been completely untouched on every patch, so far Fyi, love the list BUT I think that Victor and, Bryan, are too high. Kazuya is too low, Leroy is too high and Panda is too low
@@djohnson504x3 LMAO no she aint. movesets are similar but their heat game is wildly different. the fact that kuma has ewgf + on block mid launcher makes him way better dawg
@chyeaimawesome2089 moves sets aren't similar, they're literally exactly the same with the exception of Kumas rage art and ewgf move... in any case, I feel like Panda is much stronger than Leroy
While I agree Yoshi is S tier due to his ridiculous 50/50 in the wall. But I think thats really it. even the is guard break isn’t that scary tbh, there is an objective solution to it to just lay down. He sacrifice a lot of combo damage to get the setup maybe like 20 damage or something. The unbreakable low is stupid after b1,1 f1+2 its true. You should always be able to jump over this low especially. But other than that it’s not that strong. It’s not like what friend said you can only read it to punish. Thats not true at all, its 40f counting execution. Its pretty reactable + a back dash completely kills it. The idea that he has no weakness is far from the truth. All his neutral can be sidestepped to the left. Only f1+2 tracks to that said and its -12. All of his homing moves are bad, all launched with a duck. He is never + on block. He is the only character that his players use the generic linear wr3. His lows are still garbage. Fc4 is launch punishable and is reactable. Db3,3,4 is -8. His movement are as good as Kuma’s “literally like statistically”. He doesn’t just get the unblockables and the steal turn stuff for free. He has serious weaknesses.
@@ShinBladeTV yeah noticed, great video as always man. really agree on steve after they made lionheart optional after every attack, and steve is a god damn beast when up close/at wall
Steve isn’t nowhere near god tier in this game lol, that back turn tech doesn’t make him god tier, it’s like Akuma’s Death combo no one can do it, Steve’s 2,1 loops for the death combo has to be frame perfect
Dude sounds like he went through puberty 7 times
😭😭 brah got 8 nuts
Yoshi already being on god before the video started 😂😂
Facts 😂
Has anyone ever won a tournament with yoshi? In any tekken whatsoever?
My thought process.
"sees tier list video"
Insta skips to see where Steve is lmao :D
Lmao
whos balance list is this??!
Hard disagree on what was said about Lee, he’s too risky and unlike most high tiers he doesn’t have any power mids to lock an opponent down for pressure. He dies for all of his lows if blocked, poking is subpar especially since his df1 nerf and it not crushing jabs anymore, and a lot of his moves and strings are sidestep left.
Lee just relies on people playing stupid and people with bad defense, but once he goes up against a competent player with good defense that knows to just side step left he’s hard to work with. It’s like once you know the matchup you almost never lose to a Lee again
Lee doesn’t have to be played risky at all though. His kit is extremely good. I’ll go into more detail live whenever you’re in
@@ShinBladeTV yeah I’ll tune in fs
That’s crazy work Xiaoyu and Dragonuv not GOD tier is Wild. 😂
they be downplayin xiaoyu
Feng Wei has no glaring weakness, he is like a 7/10 when it comes to eveything he does and taking into consideration his lack of heavy hitting stagger punisher, If they were to give Feng Kazuyas WR2, id put him ahead of Nina and Drag.
Feng is extremely strong
@@ShinBladeTV not only is he strong, but he flows well with the type of Tekken game this is.
Ehh the tier listings don't reflect reality especially the tournaments. It's like knees Feng or low high or Numan Ch Steve. These characters work in the hands of players who've been playing them for years and training camps with the best of the best players in the world. Otherwise Steve in the hands of an unknown tournament player doesn't reach top 50. The one I disagree most with is Dragunov because that character is consistently top 5 or there are 2-3 Dragunovs in top 10. Claudio Bryan Jin hype is overrated. Especially Jin. Every pro is placing Jin at top 3 but even in the hands of book CBM Devilster Arsenality the character barely reaches top 8. Maybe this list is focused on online meta but even there the Steve Claudio Rena win loss ratio is abysmal to justify this tier list
Jus because the players are good doesn’t mean that the characters they use r good
Buddy sounding like he on first 48 fr
Yoshi in God tier is wild
God!
I had a feeling yall would up play lee XD he’s not as good as people say : )
Lee is awesome though! Extremely good
Jin definitely Top 3. He’s easier to use this Tekken also speaking from the devs he’s the protagonist they want it this way.
Bryan is hard to play, but he is not weak at all. I dont downplay him, the buffs paid off. Completely agree with his spot, he is very strong in this game.
Steve should be #9 on S+ and Azu needs to be in S
Keep sleeping on Paul. them buffs going to keep coming
@@skeem201 needs them. Preach strongest but he has too many interruptible moves. His heat is arguably one of the worst in game because demo man is only treatable super close and the leg sweep has to hit.
I really wanted him top 10
I honestly don't understand how everyone sleeps on Alisa. She's been completely untouched on every patch, so far
Fyi, love the list BUT I think that Victor and, Bryan, are too high. Kazuya is too low, Leroy is too high and Panda is too low
alisa needa get nerfed
Panda too low? Lmao
@chyeaimawesome2089 Yes, Panda is pretty much as strong as Kuma
@@djohnson504x3 LMAO no she aint. movesets are similar but their heat game is wildly different. the fact that kuma has ewgf + on block mid launcher makes him way better dawg
@chyeaimawesome2089 moves sets aren't similar, they're literally exactly the same with the exception of Kumas rage art and ewgf move... in any case, I feel like Panda is much stronger than Leroy
lee is S ?😮
He’s not S, side step him and your getting him 🤷♂️
@@Holyjermaine yes，I think lee is a-
Lee got the toolkit.
@@ShinBladeTV um everyone has a toolkit 😭
You the first guy I seen put Steve in S tier and you main him, I respect it 🫡
Hell yeah!
No way raven is the worst character in da game
No one is the worst.
While I agree Yoshi is S tier due to his ridiculous 50/50 in the wall. But I think thats really it.
even the is guard break isn’t that scary tbh, there is an objective solution to it to just lay down. He sacrifice a lot of combo damage to get the setup maybe like 20 damage or something.
The unbreakable low is stupid after b1,1 f1+2 its true. You should always be able to jump over this low especially. But other than that it’s not that strong. It’s not like what friend said you can only read it to punish. Thats not true at all, its 40f counting execution. Its pretty reactable + a back dash completely kills it.
The idea that he has no weakness is far from the truth. All his neutral can be sidestepped to the left. Only f1+2 tracks to that said and its -12. All of his homing moves are bad, all launched with a duck. He is never + on block. He is the only character that his players use the generic linear wr3.
His lows are still garbage. Fc4 is launch punishable and is reactable. Db3,3,4 is -8.
His movement are as good as Kuma’s “literally like statistically”.
He doesn’t just get the unblockables and the steal turn stuff for free. He has serious weaknesses.
Great tier list
Thanks
Lars a S ummm????
Yes!!! lol
cant hear g6 at all
It turns up later
@@ShinBladeTV yeah noticed, great video as always man. really agree on steve after they made lionheart optional after every attack, and steve is a god damn beast when up close/at wall
Kane&Trench would not be on any stages if Yoshi's unblockable low didn't exist. He is the most carried player in the history of Tekken.
Give him props though, Kane stuck with his main.
Kane been a problem with Yoshi since Tekken 7
Steve isn’t nowhere near god tier in this game lol, that back turn tech doesn’t make him god tier, it’s like Akuma’s Death combo no one can do it, Steve’s 2,1 loops for the death combo has to be frame perfect
That’s not the only thing