Epoch 12V 100Ah... www.epochbatteries.com/products/12v-marine-battery-lithium-100ah/?rfsn=6891696.aba73b0 (affiliate links) (10% Discount Code "LITHIUMSOLAR") Let me know what you think!
Hi quick question.. a little fan, or even two little fans on that battery wouldn't make it perform better in higher temperature locations? Or say in the summer?
RoyPow is a subsidiary of EVE, so I've been under the impression EVE is either manufacturing the battery pack itself or weighs in heavily on it. Just an educated guess though.
The battery featured in this video is the result of an ongoing collaborative partnership between Epoch Batteries & RoyPow. We regularly collaborate on batteries such as these and many others which are yet to be released (and will be exclusive to Epoch Batteries). Their quality control really speaks for itself and this video demonstrates that exceptionally well.
Many boaters and RV currently use group GC2-6volt batteries in a four cell parallel/ series configuration to achieve 12 volts for their household electrical needs. These deep cycle lead batteries are an ideal size, weight, and capacity, but there is no lithium battery that is a direct replacement for these. Many golf carts also use the GC-2 group batteries as well. This is an overlooked market that is eager for a lithium battery in 6 volt GC-2 size
Please do a video on 12v battery chargers. I bought bought Roypow chargers (14.4v/3a and 14.4/15a). Also got an Epoch 12v/15amp IP67 charger to use as my onboard boat charger. Got all 3 for about the same cost as a Vectron IP65. A “12v charger shootout” would make a great video… comparing “budget chargers” voltages, cycles, and ability to “wake up” a sleeping BMS like Roypow claims both of theirs are able to do.
Quick question: which would be better for these batteries in the in the long term for use with 55 lb thrust trolling motor (12v motor w/50a max draw in parallel, or 24v motor w/25a max draw in series)?
Hmm I get its submersible and waterproof but what if you have this mounted on the exterior tongue of your camper trailer? The battery connections would totally be exposed to the elements.. So I would need to put this battery box in a box? Am I way off here?
Yes, it still needs to be in a box in that case. It's waterproof to the extent that it can get splashed but it's not intended to be submerged, get rained on constantly, etc.
Have you opened and tested a Epoch 36v battery? My question is, does the 36v Epoch battery have a heater for low temp charging safety. I live where we fish in freezing temps and I can't find any info on heaters on 36v batteries. Thank you for any info
No, I have not reviewed any 36V batteries. That voltage is rather unusual and there aren't many products that make use of it. Most are running 48V if they need more than 24V.
I just placed my order for the 36v 100Ah! You are incredibly thorough and made a great video. I had been researching batteries for my EZ-GO TXTPDS for a few days now and your review made it easy for me to pull the trigger! Thank you for the 10% off too!!
The Noko Genius 10x4 with lithium settings doesn’t seem to play well with this battery. I received the 100ah battery with 17% power and hooked it up for 9 hours on the noko. When I returned to the battery, I had a fault display on the app reading “fully charged” with red background. The Noko charger itself had 12v Repair mode illuminated in orange and green indicator light pulsing on. No clue what’s going on.
Do you think this would be a good battery to use in a 5th wheel application? It would be used to run lights and some inverter outlets. My question is would it be able to start a 55000 watt generator that draws 200 amps in rush and 100 amps to start the generator? I would like to hook 2 of them up in parallel. Thanks.
Outstanding review! I have been researching lithium batteries trying to figure out which brand to buy. I was intrigued with the Epoch and it had better features than many of the more well known batteries on the market. Of big concern was the safety features of the different batteries. Your video accomplished easing my safety concern. The cost is even cheaper than other Bluetooth enabled batteries. I’ll be ordering the 24V 100AH Epoch to run my 24V trolling motor. I don’t believe that I’ll be disappointed.
Excellent review for an excellent battery! I had been trying to find a battery for my astrophotography rig that consumes between 5A and 8A @ 12V of constant drain and I am in sub zero temps doing this. This battery should work perfectly! Thanks!
Thanks again for your work. You and others who take apart your projects are updating the manufacturing if they want to sell them, that’s forcing them to do better work. I’m looking forward to seeing you again soon! 😊. Thanks.
Does the app let you get in and look at all the BMS parameters or is it locked up? When I looked at it in the App Store, it says it has a management mode, but it wants a verification number. I know I know Will and other get mad when people want to screw with the BMS parameters.
The app does not have anywhere to edit the parameters and I agree with Will that this is a good thing. It would be nice to see them to know how it's programmed; however, don't see any reason they should be edited.
I just put a 36 volt version of this in my Golf Cart. Its an amazing battery. I pulled out 3 Dakotas to put this in. The app and tethered monitor are awesome. So far they have been flawless.
EXCELLENT WORK SIR,I've been looking for info on battery heaters and you point out that it's a 12V 40W heater something some of the suppliers have not been able to tell me.Do you think that a 48V battery would have a 48V heater after all it is connected to a 48V BMS.Also can you measure the height of those cells 100ah is about 120mm,the 105ah are taller.Thanks
Cette batterie est vraiment de bonne qualité, je suis très impressionné de toute les options du BMS, ainsi que de la qualité des capteurs de température. Merci pour ce test.
The fact that they label it as an "Li-ion" is not going to help the confusion in the marine world between the 'LFP' vs other lithium chemistries. I know it's pedantic, but that really bugs me. Good looking battery otherwise.
I feel completely the opposite. LiFePO4 is a lithium ion chemistry, so it is labeled correctly. I think a better way to address it would be if we started saying NMC, LCO, etc. We're already used to talking about batteries this way for LFP and LTO. I don't understand why we lump everything else into a more generic bucket. It would completely eliminate confusion.
@@LithiumSolar I understand where you're coming from. I guess my reaction is partly because of how much fud is being thrown around the boat works about the dangers of "lithium batteries". If the industry did as you suggested and used the specific terms for each type, it would reach the same effect.
What charger (looking at vectron) would you get for this battery? I just bought 2 of them based on your awesome video! I was about to buy a Bigbattery seal, but you can’t use their batteries in series anymore.
I've pretty much been exclusively using the AIMS chargers. They have two versions, a 12/24V and a 36/48V. I have both and they've been rock solid. As for the BigBattery's, might be worth asking them even if the spec sheet says not to. It was my understanding that they could be series connected but it's just discouraged - definitely something you'd want their confirmation on though before doing.
I was thinking about a vectron IP65 15a, or epoch 15a charger from their site. Saw issues from overheating on IP65 reviews. Any thoughts? Also epoch has a new 100ah battery on their site this morning.
This battery looks fantastic and the price has reduced by a hundred dollars, But they have reduced your discount from 10% to 5%. I don't know if you want to change the description or talk to them to try and get the ten percent back.
I received mine a few weeks ago, so far so good. Was quite disturbed that the manual says that it can't get wet or be used in a wet environment. This is completely against why I bought a waterproof battery in the 1st place, to be in the standard position on a travel trailer. The tabs prohibit it to fit in any battery box that I can find, so made a box of wood, negating the weight savings & spending extra $. Other than that, it's ok. The app works, although I have to force quit it each time I use it, so the battery will show up. Can't seem to figure out how to, if possible, to rename it.
This battery setup is missing one thing, a USB out. I’ve noticed there isn’t a USB outlet. Know of an all inclusive 50ah battery box that does include it?
It's also missing an internal inverter. Heck, it's a battery and it seems to be missing nothing exept what you think should be, apparently, standard fare on batteries.
The battery manual says that this battery can be connected in series, 4S1P, but did not say anything about parallel connection. Can this battery be connected in parallel 4P for my RV. Agree with another poster saying that the Epoch seems superior to the Battleborn. Will definitely buy this battery if it can be connected in 4P
I would rate this as superior to a battleborn and cheaper. Except for the placement of the temperature sensor on the terminals, really superior. One question, is it rated for series connection? Edit, now a second question, can the app connect to multiple batteries or only one at a time?
Officially, you can connect two of the 12V in series. It's strongly recommended to just purchase the 24V version instead though. Yes, if you have multiple batteries, you can select them on the app.
@@LithiumSolar Thanks, I hadn't noticed they had others. I wonder if they use the same EVE cells in their 24v and 48v batteries. They are certainly well built. If I had a boat I would jump on them. Living in the desert, I don't need the heater, but it would certainly come in handy if you have a motor home or boat.
@@craigmorton644 The bulleted list of features on their website actually states "Max (4) in Series up to 48V" right now. When I originally made this video, the limit was 2 batteries in series. The specifications may have changed. It would be best to contact them for clarification if you're not sure.
I'm not sure what kind of certifications you're looking for, but I'm not aware of it having UL, ETL, or anything like that. You can drop them an email and ask if there's something specific you're looking for.
nice but i rather make my own.. easy cheap and fun to make...good for people that dont want to build and just want something ready to go ...this has nice build to it wish the case would be smaller way too much dead space inside and could of put a bigger mah battery
Yes, but it's best to buy the 24V version instead of connecting two 12V together www.epochbatteries.com/products/24v-100ah-heated-bluetooth-lifepo4-battery/?rfsn=6891696.aba73b0
In my manual for this battery it only says connect 2 in parallel. And if you connect 2 in series it voids the warranty. Can you clarify if this is correct? As you said its OK to connect in series. I own 2, but wanted to do in series for a 24v outboard motor, so but now I'm not sure. I have any advice, aside from selling these 2 brand new unused batteries and buying something else.
With that type of current, it's probably best to buy 2 batteries or set up to a 24V system. 200A is a lot to ask of one battery (even though cells may technically be rated for it).
@@LithiumSolar Is there anything / device that can limit the charging current? Trying to trickle charge it with a 12v socket in the car without having it blowing the fuse, thanks!
@@TonyPham-Creations You absolutely need to use a charge controller, there are DC-DC controllers intended for use in a car. Here's an example www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-orion-smart-tr-dc-dc-charger/?attribute_model=12v%2F12v%2F18a&ref=lithiumsolar
@@LithiumSolar Appreciate it! Based on your video, I got the Essential series, did not need the IP67 rating, it's awesome, especially with the BT BMS monitoring!
@@LithiumSolar so my plan is to build this as a portable unit, that will be my primary power for my workshop, with mobility for emergencies. (MPP Solar / PIP 2724LV-MR 24V 2.7kW 120V Inverter, 600W Solar Input) plus this battery on a hand cart. at some point it would end up in a camper, cabi or just stay as my workshop power unit. Thoughts?
Thanks for this informative review. It is always helpful to state the full charged voltage (14.6V or other) and the steady state, full charge at rest after X amount of time (13.4V or other) for LiFePO4 chemistry. Some manufacturers of trolling motor batteries use 16.5V+ (Li-ion and not LiFePO4). Labeling a battery 12V is completely uninformative/misleading.
I ordered one of these batteries after watching this review and looking at the Epoch web site. The web site seemed to be well done and legitimate. After the battery was delivered, I quickly discovered it did not work. There is a on/off button that must be switched on before the battery will work to deliver voltage. The battery would not turn on after multiple attempts of following directions in the very bare user manual. Calling Epoch on phone number supplied in user manual resulting in a weird music recording and then a disconnect. There was no opportunity to connect to a customer service rep or to leave a message. I then emailed customer support and in a reply was told to leave a number for them to call. Hours later I received a call to review the problem. After going through some trouble shooting tasks the battery would not turn on. The Customer service rep admitted the Epoch company is new in business and is trying to establish a customer base. He also admitted that the batteries are not tested before shipping so there is no way to know if you are getting a battery that works or does not work. Additionally, the photo's representing the batteries are misleading. I ordered a 50 AMP hour battery. The pictures on the web site for the 50 AMP hour battery appear to be smaller than the 100 AMP hour battery. I was unpleasantly surprised to discover the 50 AMP Hour battery comes in a very large 100 plus Amp hour case. Obviously there is a one size fits all on battery boxes in an effort to reduce costs. It has become obvious to me the TH-cam video producer made a complimentary review because he received a free battery. He obviously did not vet the company EPOCH otherwise he would have learned they are new in business and incompetent. The Epoch company from my view is pushing cheap Chinese made lithium batteries onto the unsuspecting public and this TH-cam video reviewer is aiding and abetting them. I have asked for a return for full credit on this battery that will not even turn on. To everyone considering buying one of these batteries I give you this warning. Do it at your own peril. My battery did not work and now I have to suffer the consequences of not doing my proper due diligence. There is a reason the Epoch battery is so cheap. It is pure junk and does not work.
This is very disappointing to hear. Epoch is indeed a new company but is related to the "18650 Battery Store" folks, which have an outstanding reputation from MANY customers, not just myself. Epoch batteries are built by RoyPow, which is a subsidiary of EVE Energy themselves. It's possible that it was just a defective battery. Have they honored the advertised 30-day return policy?
@@LithiumSolar The battery will be returned for credit. We will see how difficult it will be to get credit to my PayPal account. There is no possibility to get a customer service rep by calling. Calling the phone number listed only takes one into a black hole. . Only email communications until someone calls me. I do not see how this can be considered an outstanding reputation. And it is obvious that quality control on these battery products is lacking since I have a non working battery.
The battery mentioned here was handled roughly in transit, resulting in a loose connection internally which prevented the power button from functioning properly. The battery has since been exchanged. Upon inspecting the battery, discovering the loose connection, and reconnecting it - the battery performed normally. Our batteries are inspected post-production and again before leaving our warehouse to ensure full functionality. The handling of our batteries in transit however is unfortunately beyond our control. We’ve been involved with lithium batteries for many years and price competitively to appeal to a wider audience. While we are a newer brand, we’re here to stay, and aim to provide swift and effective support to all of our customers. There were in fact technical difficulties related to the previously listed support number that we were not aware of. Those issues have since been resolved and a new number has been listed on our website, in our updated manual, and on our app. We hope that you’ll accept our sincerest apologies, Gene. Had we known about the technical difficulties, we would’ve been able to provide a much quicker resolution. We hope the replacement battery is meeting or exceeding your needs and would like to encourage you to please feel free to reach back out to us anytime. We genuinely appreciate your business and intend to prove that through excellent service.
@@epochbatteries I was about to order 2-4 or these batteries until this comment. How much rougher do you think shipping is than life in a trolling motor or marine application? Have you addresssed this issue?
Epoch 12V 100Ah... www.epochbatteries.com/products/12v-marine-battery-lithium-100ah/?rfsn=6891696.aba73b0 (affiliate links)
(10% Discount Code "LITHIUMSOLAR")
Let me know what you think!
Hi quick question.. a little fan, or even two little fans on that battery wouldn't make it perform better in higher temperature locations? Or say in the summer?
Hello - great vid - is this the best BUILT marine waterproof battery for the money currently available to your knowledge? Thanks!
That's a roypow battery!! What in the world. I wish I knew who is the actual manufacturer of these packs haha
Or maybe roypow is a epoch battery 😂 I'll never know
RoyPow is a subsidiary of EVE, so I've been under the impression EVE is either manufacturing the battery pack itself or weighs in heavily on it. Just an educated guess though.
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The battery featured in this video is the result of an ongoing collaborative partnership between Epoch Batteries & RoyPow. We regularly collaborate on batteries such as these and many others which are yet to be released (and will be exclusive to Epoch Batteries). Their quality control really speaks for itself and this video demonstrates that exceptionally well.
Many boaters and RV currently use group GC2-6volt batteries in a four cell parallel/ series configuration to achieve 12 volts for their household electrical needs. These deep cycle lead batteries are an ideal size, weight, and capacity, but there is no lithium battery that is a direct replacement for these. Many golf carts also use the GC-2 group batteries as well. This is an overlooked market that is eager for a lithium battery in 6 volt GC-2 size
Please do a video on 12v battery chargers. I bought bought Roypow chargers (14.4v/3a and 14.4/15a). Also got an Epoch 12v/15amp IP67 charger to use as my onboard boat charger. Got all 3 for about the same cost as a Vectron IP65.
A “12v charger shootout” would make a great video… comparing “budget chargers” voltages, cycles, and ability to “wake up” a sleeping BMS like Roypow claims both of theirs are able to do.
Quick question: which would be better for these batteries in the in the long term for use with 55 lb thrust trolling motor (12v motor w/50a max draw in parallel, or 24v motor w/25a max draw in series)?
Hmm I get its submersible and waterproof but what if you have this mounted on the exterior tongue of your camper trailer? The battery connections would totally be exposed to the elements.. So I would need to put this battery box in a box? Am I way off here?
Yes, it still needs to be in a box in that case. It's waterproof to the extent that it can get splashed but it's not intended to be submerged, get rained on constantly, etc.
Have you opened and tested a Epoch 36v battery? My question is, does the 36v Epoch battery have a heater for low temp charging safety. I live where we fish in freezing temps and I can't find any info on heaters on 36v batteries. Thank you for any info
No, I have not reviewed any 36V batteries. That voltage is rather unusual and there aren't many products that make use of it. Most are running 48V if they need more than 24V.
would you do a review on the EPOCH ESSENTIALS heated battery 100ah or 300ah ?
I just placed my order for the 36v 100Ah! You are incredibly thorough and made a great video. I had been researching batteries for my EZ-GO TXTPDS for a few days now and your review made it easy for me to pull the trigger! Thank you for the 10% off too!!
The Noko Genius 10x4 with lithium settings doesn’t seem to play well with this battery. I received the 100ah battery with 17% power and hooked it up for 9 hours on the noko. When I returned to the battery, I had a fault display on the app reading “fully charged” with red background. The Noko charger itself had 12v Repair mode illuminated in orange and green indicator light pulsing on. No clue what’s going on.
Do you think this would be a good battery to use in a 5th wheel application? It would be used to run lights and some inverter outlets. My question is would it be able to start a 55000 watt generator that draws 200 amps in rush and 100 amps to start the generator? I would like to hook 2 of them up in parallel. Thanks.
Would this work under hood car battery
No. Please see this video explaining why... th-cam.com/video/bzGFSSgkQYM/w-d-xo.html
Great video! What's better to get X1 36v 100ah or X3 12v 100ah for a 36v trolling motor?
Outstanding review! I have been researching lithium batteries trying to figure out which brand to buy. I was intrigued with the Epoch and it had better features than many of the more well known batteries on the market. Of big concern was the safety features of the different batteries. Your video accomplished easing my safety concern. The cost is even cheaper than other Bluetooth enabled batteries. I’ll be ordering the 24V 100AH Epoch to run my 24V trolling motor. I don’t believe that I’ll be disappointed.
Excellent review for an excellent battery! I had been trying to find a battery for my astrophotography rig that consumes between 5A and 8A @ 12V of constant drain and I am in sub zero temps doing this. This battery should work perfectly! Thanks!
At 8:29 in the video: is that a battery I see on the PC board? What happens when the battery ages out?
Thanks again for your work. You and others who take apart your projects are updating the manufacturing if they want to sell them, that’s forcing them to do better work. I’m looking forward to seeing you again soon! 😊. Thanks.
I think it's good to test both low and high temp disconnect :-) Thanks for the great video, looks like a very nice battery.
Does the app let you get in and look at all the BMS parameters or is it locked up? When I looked at it in the App Store, it says it has a management mode, but it wants a verification number.
I know I know Will and other get mad when people want to screw with the BMS parameters.
The app does not have anywhere to edit the parameters and I agree with Will that this is a good thing. It would be nice to see them to know how it's programmed; however, don't see any reason they should be edited.
@LithiumSolar Can you also charge this battery with another charger than proposed on their website? In the Netherlands we have different outlets.
I'd guess that you can buy an adapter to change the Epoch charger terminal to your outlet type.
I just put a 36 volt version of this in my Golf Cart. Its an amazing battery. I pulled out 3 Dakotas to put this in. The app and tethered monitor are awesome. So far they have been flawless.
Your review of this battery, as well as LithiumSolar's, were key to helping me decide for my 36V EZ-GO. I am anxious for it to arrive! Thank you!
@@jameswall1076 good deal James. Its really a no brainer.
EXCELLENT WORK SIR,I've been looking for info on battery heaters and you point out that it's a 12V 40W heater something some of the suppliers have not been able to tell me.Do you think that a 48V battery would have a 48V heater after all it is connected to a 48V BMS.Also can you measure the height of those cells 100ah is about 120mm,the 105ah are taller.Thanks
Cette batterie est vraiment de bonne qualité, je suis très impressionné de toute les options du BMS, ainsi que de la qualité des capteurs de température. Merci pour ce test.
The fact that they label it as an "Li-ion" is not going to help the confusion in the marine world between the 'LFP' vs other lithium chemistries. I know it's pedantic, but that really bugs me. Good looking battery otherwise.
I feel completely the opposite. LiFePO4 is a lithium ion chemistry, so it is labeled correctly. I think a better way to address it would be if we started saying NMC, LCO, etc. We're already used to talking about batteries this way for LFP and LTO. I don't understand why we lump everything else into a more generic bucket. It would completely eliminate confusion.
@@LithiumSolar I understand where you're coming from. I guess my reaction is partly because of how much fud is being thrown around the boat works about the dangers of "lithium batteries". If the industry did as you suggested and used the specific terms for each type, it would reach the same effect.
charger for this 24v boat ?
I miss the snapping of the large connectors you use in your discharge test rig. That was always a fun moment. Seems like a very good battery. Thanks.
I should build some with thicker gauge wire. They were easier to use really, but the #6 was a bit too thin for higher amp tests.
What charger (looking at vectron) would you get for this battery? I just bought 2 of them based on your awesome video!
I was about to buy a Bigbattery seal, but you can’t use their batteries in series anymore.
I've pretty much been exclusively using the AIMS chargers. They have two versions, a 12/24V and a 36/48V. I have both and they've been rock solid. As for the BigBattery's, might be worth asking them even if the spec sheet says not to. It was my understanding that they could be series connected but it's just discouraged - definitely something you'd want their confirmation on though before doing.
I was thinking about a vectron IP65 15a, or epoch 15a charger from their site. Saw issues from overheating on IP65 reviews. Any thoughts? Also epoch has a new 100ah battery on their site this morning.
This battery looks fantastic and the price has reduced by a hundred dollars, But they have reduced your discount from 10% to 5%. I don't know if you want to change the description or talk to them to try and get the ten percent back.
App: Does the app support management of multiple batteries assembled into a larger (parallel) battery bank? Thank you
Yes, if you have multiple batteries, you can select them on the app.
@@LithiumSolar Thanks so much for the follow up and great review
I received mine a few weeks ago, so far so good. Was quite disturbed that the manual says that it can't get wet or be used in a wet environment. This is completely against why I bought a waterproof battery in the 1st place, to be in the standard position on a travel trailer. The tabs prohibit it to fit in any battery box that I can find, so made a box of wood, negating the weight savings & spending extra $. Other than that, it's ok. The app works, although I have to force quit it each time I use it, so the battery will show up. Can't seem to figure out how to, if possible, to rename it.
In my program (iOS) trigers chrge/discharge not switched. They are always OFF. Is it normal?
Thanks for another awesome review.
Waterproof nice I want one for my boat.
I'd like a boat for my battery... lol. Maybe some day.
@@LithiumSolar Digital Mermaid is building one of each; you can live vicariously through her until then 😄
You are a very good videographer.😁❤
Thank you so much for your great video. I went and purchased one on your recommendation.
Hey mate nice review, i wanted to ask if you see the current which flows out of the battery on the app?
This battery setup is missing one thing, a USB out. I’ve noticed there isn’t a USB outlet. Know of an all inclusive 50ah battery box that does include it?
It's also missing an internal inverter. Heck, it's a battery and it seems to be missing nothing exept what you think should be, apparently, standard fare on batteries.
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What do you think is the best budget lithium battery for a 36 volt trolling motor
$494 now with discount code
Introductory sale, but they didn't tell me how long it would be running for. Great deal though!
Too bad the enclosure is so much larger than it needs to be
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The battery and box say Lithium Ion, and in the description from the manufacturer it says Lifepo4 (lithium iron phosphate). Do you know which it is?
LiFePO4 is lithium ion. It's just one of many lithium ion chemistries.
Thank you. Great battery!
The battery manual says that this battery can be connected in series, 4S1P, but did not say anything about parallel connection. Can this battery be connected in parallel 4P for my RV. Agree with another poster saying that the Epoch seems superior to the Battleborn. Will definitely buy this battery if it can be connected in 4P
Their website says:
Max (4) in Series up to 48V, Max (4) in Parallel - 4S4P
I would rate this as superior to a battleborn and cheaper. Except for the placement of the temperature sensor on the terminals, really superior. One question, is it rated for series connection? Edit, now a second question, can the app connect to multiple batteries or only one at a time?
Officially, you can connect two of the 12V in series. It's strongly recommended to just purchase the 24V version instead though. Yes, if you have multiple batteries, you can select them on the app.
@@LithiumSolar Thanks, I hadn't noticed they had others. I wonder if they use the same EVE cells in their 24v and 48v batteries. They are certainly well built. If I had a boat I would jump on them. Living in the desert, I don't need the heater, but it would certainly come in handy if you have a motor home or boat.
@@LithiumSolar in the manual it only mentions connect 2 in parallel , where does it say 2 in series?
@@craigmorton644 The bulleted list of features on their website actually states "Max (4) in Series up to 48V" right now. When I originally made this video, the limit was 2 batteries in series. The specifications may have changed. It would be best to contact them for clarification if you're not sure.
@@craigmorton644 I should add too that it's preferable to just buy the proper voltage battery rather than connecting multiples in series.
Looks like a great battery, but I don't find any certification information..
I'm not sure what kind of certifications you're looking for, but I'm not aware of it having UL, ETL, or anything like that. You can drop them an email and ask if there's something specific you're looking for.
nice but i rather make my own.. easy cheap and fun to make...good for people that dont want to build and just want something ready to go ...this has nice build to it wish the case would be smaller way too much dead space inside and could of put a bigger mah battery
depends you can add fans for high heat
Can you use these in series for a 24vdc solar system? I'd be connecting it to a 3000w 60amp hybrid controller/inverter. Thanks!
Yes, but it's best to buy the 24V version instead of connecting two 12V together
www.epochbatteries.com/products/24v-100ah-heated-bluetooth-lifepo4-battery/?rfsn=6891696.aba73b0
In my manual for this battery it only says connect 2 in parallel. And if you connect 2 in series it voids the warranty. Can you clarify if this is correct? As you said its OK to connect in series. I own 2, but wanted to do in series for a 24v outboard motor, so but now I'm not sure. I have any advice, aside from selling these 2 brand new unused batteries and buying something else.
Give it to Will. He’ll cut it up!
Looks like a pritty nice battery
Only disappointment for me is the 120a bms. I need more like 200a.
With that type of current, it's probably best to buy 2 batteries or set up to a 24V system. 200A is a lot to ask of one battery (even though cells may technically be rated for it).
@@LithiumSolar wasn’t sure one could draw 200a with 2 of these in parallel. Good to know. I’m thinking these for my motor home 12v system.
Awesome. Thanks
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$110 more than SOK
Yes, but not sure this really compares to the SOK in terms of features?
Can't beat the 1000cca gel cell farm battery from Lowes for 175$ in any way
@@trumpwon9945 sounds like something a person who thought trump won would say.
Can the BMS be programmed to limit the charging current?
No, the BMS in this battery is not programmable.
@@LithiumSolar Is there anything / device that can limit the charging current? Trying to trickle charge it with a 12v socket in the car without having it blowing the fuse, thanks!
@@TonyPham-Creations You absolutely need to use a charge controller, there are DC-DC controllers intended for use in a car. Here's an example www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-orion-smart-tr-dc-dc-charger/?attribute_model=12v%2F12v%2F18a&ref=lithiumsolar
@@LithiumSolar Appreciate it! Based on your video, I got the Essential series, did not need the IP67 rating, it's awesome, especially with the BT BMS monitoring!
Keep em comin!
would this Battery work well with the Handcart portable power station build you made? a 24v version that is.
Yes, it would work but is a bit overkill for that particular application I thinks.
@@LithiumSolar so my plan is to build this as a portable unit, that will be my primary power for my workshop, with mobility for emergencies. (MPP Solar / PIP 2724LV-MR 24V 2.7kW 120V Inverter, 600W Solar Input) plus this battery on a hand cart. at some point it would end up in a camper, cabi or just stay as my workshop power unit.
Thoughts?
$700
No. $630.
@@LithiumSolar 700 again... lots of cost has gone up now..
@@thatonebeone It's still $630. I guess people aren't watching the end of the video 😉
@@LithiumSolar oh im dumb lol code deal
Thanks for this informative review. It is always helpful to state the full charged voltage (14.6V or other) and the steady state, full charge at rest after X amount of time (13.4V or other) for LiFePO4 chemistry. Some manufacturers of trolling motor batteries use 16.5V+ (Li-ion and not LiFePO4). Labeling a battery 12V is completely uninformative/misleading.
The charge and nominal voltage information is readily available on their website and in the included manual. Additionally, LiFePO4 is Li-Ion.
I ordered one of these batteries after watching this review and looking at the Epoch web site. The web site seemed to be well done and legitimate. After the battery was delivered, I quickly discovered it did not work. There is a on/off button that must be switched on before the battery will work to deliver voltage. The battery would not turn on after multiple attempts of following directions in the very bare user manual. Calling Epoch on phone number supplied in user manual resulting in a weird music recording and then a disconnect. There was no opportunity to connect to a customer service rep or to leave a message. I then emailed customer support and in a reply was told to leave a number for them to call. Hours later I received a call to review the problem. After going through some trouble shooting tasks the battery would not turn on. The Customer service rep admitted the Epoch company is new in business and is trying to establish a customer base. He also admitted that the batteries are not tested before shipping so there is no way to know if you are getting a battery that works or does not work. Additionally, the photo's representing the batteries are misleading. I ordered a 50 AMP hour battery. The pictures on the web site for the 50 AMP hour battery appear to be smaller than the 100 AMP hour battery. I was unpleasantly surprised to discover the 50 AMP Hour battery comes in a very large 100 plus Amp hour case. Obviously there is a one size fits all on battery boxes in an effort to reduce costs. It has become obvious to me the TH-cam video producer made a complimentary review because he received a free battery. He obviously did not vet the company EPOCH otherwise he would have learned they are new in business and incompetent. The Epoch company from my view is pushing cheap Chinese made lithium batteries onto the unsuspecting public and this TH-cam video reviewer is aiding and abetting them. I have asked for a return for full credit on this battery that will not even turn on. To everyone considering buying one of these batteries I give you this warning. Do it at your own peril. My battery did not work and now I have to suffer the consequences of not doing my proper due diligence. There is a reason the Epoch battery is so cheap. It is pure junk and does not work.
This is very disappointing to hear. Epoch is indeed a new company but is related to the "18650 Battery Store" folks, which have an outstanding reputation from MANY customers, not just myself. Epoch batteries are built by RoyPow, which is a subsidiary of EVE Energy themselves. It's possible that it was just a defective battery. Have they honored the advertised 30-day return policy?
@@LithiumSolar The battery will be returned for credit. We will see how difficult it will be to get credit to my PayPal account. There is no possibility to get a customer service rep by calling. Calling the phone number listed only takes one into a black hole. . Only email communications until someone calls me. I do not see how this can be considered an outstanding reputation. And it is obvious that quality control on these battery products is lacking since I have a non working battery.
@@genegautro9138 Was the situation resolved? Did they compensate shipping? I am considering ordering from them.
The battery mentioned here was handled roughly in transit, resulting in a loose connection internally which prevented the power button from functioning properly. The battery has since been exchanged. Upon inspecting the battery, discovering the loose connection, and reconnecting it - the battery performed normally. Our batteries are inspected post-production and again before leaving our warehouse to ensure full functionality. The handling of our batteries in transit however is unfortunately beyond our control.
We’ve been involved with lithium batteries for many years and price competitively to appeal to a wider audience. While we are a newer brand, we’re here to stay, and aim to provide swift and effective support to all of our customers. There were in fact technical difficulties related to the previously listed support number that we were not aware of. Those issues have since been resolved and a new number has been listed on our website, in our updated manual, and on our app.
We hope that you’ll accept our sincerest apologies, Gene. Had we known about the technical difficulties, we would’ve been able to provide a much quicker resolution. We hope the replacement battery is meeting or exceeding your needs and would like to encourage you to please feel free to reach back out to us anytime. We genuinely appreciate your business and intend to prove that through excellent service.
@@epochbatteries I was about to order 2-4 or these batteries until this comment.
How much rougher do you think shipping is than life in a trolling motor or marine application? Have you addresssed this issue?