As someone who just bought a Model Y a month ago, I have zero hate for the refresh. I like the updates and I absolutely love my “legacy” Y. I got it with the 0% financing and federal rebate, both of which might not be available on the refresh (at least for a while).
There has been some spots of models 3 's with covered up parts. Maybe Tesla will refresh the Model 3 again to be more in line with the new Model Y, this may include a turn signal stalk and exterior changes.
@@Cynlixal Its also in Australia, and Japan. Evidence points they're reintroducing the turn-signal stalks. I could be wrong but, Highland USA release was exact same as Highland release in China as well. (Interior wise)
I think they both are pretty good looking cars especially for their price range but I personally went ahead and bought a model three performance and I don't regret it. It's just more of a driver's car than I think the model y will ever be
Tesla did amazing to both updates of the Model 3 Highland and now the Model Y Juniper. I love the fact that they look different now with the new MY sporting full light bars front and rear. My wife and I will be updating our current (pre-refreshed) M3 and MY to the updated models. We can't wait.
Thanks for a great discussion. The Model Y extra space is important but it's not only that. The increase in ground clearance and seat height are also important. It's so much easier to get in and out of the Model Y. The increased ground clearance is a big advantage on some of the very rural roads at least around here (Minnesota). Another big difference for those of us frequently carrying canoes or kayaks is the increase in distance between the roof rack bars. The Model 3 is 28" while the Model Y is 36" and that makes a big difference in stability for long items on the roof.
Yes, also significantly more comfortable when car camping. In LA, where the right lane is basically like off-roading, extra ground clearance much needed. One wish is that the Model Y would adopt the Rivian R2's all-seats that fold flat for even more interior space when camping. And V2L🎉
@@R56Cooper Great points. The Y is much better for sleeping. I've done that a few times. Last year Elon said that all new models starting in 2025 would include Powershare (V2G). Not sure if this refresh is included. One of the more knowledgeable forum members said that recent Teslas were all V2G capable and that all they needed was activation via a software update. I hope that's correct.
I think you missed two important factors in my buying decision. 1. The seating posture. For long trips, the seating posture, i believe, is better in model Y than 3. 2. Ease of getting in and out of the car. Model Y is much easier than the 3 to get in and out due to the vehicle ride height.
I just paid off my 23 RWD M3 and i do want a model Y but I think i'm going to wait for AI5(Hardware 5) and above. Hardware 3 is going to be phased out due to compute limitations. Were just in weird computer transitionary period so i want to see where it goes before I spend another $40k+.
It's nice that they started selling tesla vehicles in the Philippines... officially. Based on traffic conditions and quality of the roads, 700km+ will not even last that long. a short distance of 14km will take you 2hrs with traffic jam or 1hr or less on a less traffic jam.
I live in Belgium. I just bought a new M3 Highland Standard Range and had the chance of buying a Model Y for the same money. I'll never like SUV's. I liked MPV's and they got replaced by SUV's to have something new, something to brag about and show to everyone how productive you are in society. MPV's were more honest and practical.
I have been living in Belgium for half a year. I plan to buy a TM3. Can you tell me what additional fees I will have to incur when buying an electric car here? (Road tax, etc.). How much does it cost in Belgium to insure such a car?
New model Y looks great to me, Tesla did a great job on the refresh IMO. I have a 2024 M3P refresh and will be keeping it. OMG it’s the best car I have ever owned and that’s coming out of a 21 M3 LR.
The right signal should be on the right side of the steering wheel. After a week I'm still thinking and looking at the signals. Maybe I have been using fsd too much.
I had to use a Model Y for two days and couldn’t wait to get back to my Model 3 Performance. Y was bouncy and didn’t handle with as much precision. Driving position for the Y was easier to get in and out of-as is the case for a UPS driver-but I missed the recline of the 3. I still own a three row ICE SUV for the very rare occasion I need to haul big stuff or seat six adults. I want to replace it with an EV someday, but I have doubts the Y will be big enough.
Thanks for making great videos! I still use your car wash video to wash mine! I own a Model Y Performance bought in May 2024 when they were running the .99 APR. I definitely like the new design both outside and inside as it is more distinctive than the current one. Genuinely hope that they retain the turn signal stock as the buttons seem to be finicky. The only change that I don't like is moving the back numberplate holder to the bumper, as it looks a bit incomplete (more so because it looks like a flat rectangle, would have been better if they gave it a bit of a curve like Genesis GV 70). Overall, it looks like a really good update! I am very happy with the current Y and won't be switching over to the new one any time soon. The only meaningful change for me would be the ventilated seats, and that too is more like a good to have feature than necessity. Maybe a few years down the line.
My dilemma is I want the size of the model y with the interior of the model 3. The model y juniper will give me that but my issue is the exterior design is SO UGLY 😭 It's like the cybertruck and robocop in catdog form
You’re the first TH-camr I see saying Model Y comfort suspension is similar to Highland’s suspension. That’s funny, because I had THAT EXACT same impression when I test drove both before deciding on the Y, and man… I couldn’t notice ANY DIFFERENCE between the two. I’ll never get these reviewers saying “oh, New Model 3 has such a better suspension, it’s on a different league”. It’s literally identical do Y’s suspension. Both are harsh.
You would be wrong. Highlander has a completely different suspension, there are tech videos on it, it’s not up for debate ! How do I know? I have a 2022 model 3 and a 2023 Y which has the comfort suspension, which I don’t feel any difference from the 2022 model 3 which doesn’t. However, I test drove the Highland, in 5 minutes , my wife who is not into cars, turned and said to me, man this thing is so quiet and smooth compared to our cars
@ I’m not disputing the hardware is different. But, again, when I did the demo drives to decide between Y and 3, I couldn’t notice a single difference in terms of suspension. Zero. For sound, yes, 3 was slightly better.
Would you get the new AWD model Y OR the 2025 legacy AWD Model Y with all the inventory discounts? I’m still trying to decide. Love all of the new features of the new model Y. But saving $100-$150 a month would be nice too.
I wonder how many people will sell a highland 3 to buy a new y just to have “the newest tesla” because frankly the highland 3 was the first new tesla in 4 years since the original y came out
Do you know what happens to your interest rate if you trade in a Tesla they are also financing? My upgrade to Juniper will only happen if I can maintain my current 0.99%... lol (if I had to guess, it won't carry over).
I'm single. I don't have dogs or kids. I'm 5'4". I don't actually need the extra space but i got the offer of a 24MY at the same price of a 24M3... so... I prefer for miles the model Y it is just more convenient and comfortable ❤
I'm a bit upset because I wanted to get the refreshed model y but after the unveil, I think it's ugly. Would've looked better if it was simply a highland on a y
From a looks perspective, i think the new performance model 3 is the best looking car in Tesla's lineup. Then I prefer the legacy 3 out of the 3/Ys in looks. The new Y is not really much better looking than the old Y in my opinion, just different. I don't know if i need to see it in person, but i am not feeling the new Y look from the videos and images i see. The only thing about the new regular 3 I don't like that throws it off for me is the lower front. The removal of the air splitters makes it look flat. Like someone looking attractive with a face mask, (you cant see their mouth/chin) and when you remove the mask its just a disappointment like, was not expecting that...
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Lighter vs more space. Model y out sells model 3, 3 to 1. I bought m3p. I don't have any babies that i am aware of. My accountant said kids ain't in da budget. 🎉
Big misses for me compared to the Chinese and German models, Disappointed that the new model Y does not have the 95 KW hr battery 500 plus range, 800 volt for 500 kw charging. Feels like living in a third world country
I just don’t like the redesign. I hated light bars in the 90’s and I can’t believe they’ve made a return. It’s just offensively bad design and it makes the car look like more of a throwaway appliance than it already did. Whatever unique quality there was to the design of the Model Y which wasn’t much before is completely gone with this update. I think Tesla is just taking the gamble that they can gear the styling more to the Chinese market to hopefully increase sales there and that it won’t hurt the US market since crossovers sell well here anyway. It looks bad enough to me that I would buy a Model 3 instead the next time. My wife drives a Model 3 RWD and I have a Model Y Performance now just because I didn’t want a large vehicle, but still wanted the hatch. I had intended to buy a Model 3 Performance, but it didn’t make sense already having one Model 3 to me. If the Model 3 had a hatch I would have never considered the Model Y. It looks a bit awkward as it is compared to the Model 3. I don’t love it anyway, but it was my best compromise for speed and convenience coming out of a small performance hatchback which just doesn’t exist in the EV world. I’d say I’d just buy something else, but I won’t be in the market for a new car in quite a while so it’s not even a concern for me anytime soon. It definitely won’t be this new Model Y though.
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How do you like it
As someone who just bought a Model Y a month ago, I have zero hate for the refresh. I like the updates and I absolutely love my “legacy” Y. I got it with the 0% financing and federal rebate, both of which might not be available on the refresh (at least for a while).
This. Ditto. 👍🏻
Great deal. I got one also on the 0%. That’s was a great buy opportunity
The Highland Long Range suspension is much better than the MY LR comfort suspension.
The model three performance hauls the mail. Fast for the money.
There has been some spots of models 3 's with covered up parts. Maybe Tesla will refresh the Model 3 again to be more in line with the new Model Y, this may include a turn signal stalk and exterior changes.
That would be cool but Elon did say stalks are never coming back. He’s going all in on the autonomous part of the vehicle.
@@Trapmiro Elon does tend to say alotta things, turn stalk did come back to the Model Y Juniper though, although not "Stalks" multiple I guess.
@@WinterFrostx I'm pretty sure that it's only for China because we don't even have a US version yet
@@Cynlixal Its also in Australia, and Japan.
Evidence points they're reintroducing the turn-signal stalks.
I could be wrong but, Highland USA release was exact same as Highland release in China as well. (Interior wise)
I think they both are pretty good looking cars especially for their price range but I personally went ahead and bought a model three performance and I don't regret it. It's just more of a driver's car than I think the model y will ever be
I never liked the old model 3 it was until they had the new one I was interested in it. Very nice car
Great video as always.
Strangely enough I liked the Model Y Juniper refresh straight away.
Tesla did amazing to both updates of the Model 3 Highland and now the Model Y Juniper. I love the fact that they look different now with the new MY sporting full light bars front and rear. My wife and I will be updating our current (pre-refreshed) M3 and MY to the updated models. We can't wait.
Good video! I’m waiting for the new Y to release here in Norway. Will be getting one in glacier blue😊
Thanks for a great discussion. The Model Y extra space is important but it's not only that. The increase in ground clearance and seat height are also important. It's so much easier to get in and out of the Model Y. The increased ground clearance is a big advantage on some of the very rural roads at least around here (Minnesota). Another big difference for those of us frequently carrying canoes or kayaks is the increase in distance between the roof rack bars. The Model 3 is 28" while the Model Y is 36" and that makes a big difference in stability for long items on the roof.
Yes, also significantly more comfortable when car camping. In LA, where the right lane is basically like off-roading, extra ground clearance much needed.
One wish is that the Model Y would adopt the Rivian R2's all-seats that fold flat for even more interior space when camping. And V2L🎉
@@R56Cooper Great points. The Y is much better for sleeping. I've done that a few times. Last year Elon said that all new models starting in 2025 would include Powershare (V2G). Not sure if this refresh is included. One of the more knowledgeable forum members said that recent Teslas were all V2G capable and that all they needed was activation via a software update. I hope that's correct.
@StormyDog that would be a great addition! Especially in an emergency, we could use the EV battery as a power generator
I think you missed two important factors in my buying decision.
1. The seating posture.
For long trips, the seating posture, i believe, is better in model Y than 3.
2. Ease of getting in and out of the car.
Model Y is much easier than the 3 to get in and out due to the vehicle ride height.
Seating comfort is exactly why I'm trading in my 23 M3 for a 25 MY refresh when it comes to the states.
(Also the suspension)
I agree with both. Number 2 i was grouping in with “more space” in my head.
I just paid off my 23 RWD M3 and i do want a model Y but I think i'm going to wait for AI5(Hardware 5) and above. Hardware 3 is going to be phased out due to compute limitations. Were just in weird computer transitionary period so i want to see where it goes before I spend another $40k+.
They need to get rid of the front middle light bar on the y. It would look a lot better
Do you have the link for those accessories in your room behind you? The spinning Cybertruck and the Tesla phone charger?
It's nice that they started selling tesla vehicles in the Philippines... officially. Based on traffic conditions and quality of the roads, 700km+ will not even last that long. a short distance of 14km will take you 2hrs with traffic jam or 1hr or less on a less traffic jam.
Model 3 performance front with the new model y light bar would be fire 🔥.
apparently there’s been some model 3s with coverings spotted so who knows, we may get something like that
I live in Belgium. I just bought a new M3 Highland Standard Range and had the chance of buying a Model Y for the same money. I'll never like SUV's. I liked MPV's and they got replaced by SUV's to have something new, something to brag about and show to everyone how productive you are in society. MPV's were more honest and practical.
I have been living in Belgium for half a year. I plan to buy a TM3. Can you tell me what additional fees I will have to incur when buying an electric car here? (Road tax, etc.). How much does it cost in Belgium to insure such a car?
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New model Y looks great to me, Tesla did a great job on the refresh IMO. I have a 2024 M3P refresh and will be keeping it. OMG it’s the best car I have ever owned and that’s coming out of a 21 M3 LR.
The right signal should be on the right side of the steering wheel. After a week I'm still thinking and looking at the signals. Maybe I have been using fsd too much.
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I needed this video, can't decide 😢
which one you decided on and why?
I had to use a Model Y for two days and couldn’t wait to get back to my Model 3 Performance. Y was bouncy and didn’t handle with as much precision. Driving position for the Y was easier to get in and out of-as is the case for a UPS driver-but I missed the recline of the 3.
I still own a three row ICE SUV for the very rare occasion I need to haul big stuff or seat six adults. I want to replace it with an EV someday, but I have doubts the Y will be big enough.
put front camera and signal stalk on model 3, job done
Buy both MY and M3 both are awesome cars
Love the M3 highland. For space I’m going Model X every time.
How much more range do you get on your 18 inch wheels compared to stock?
5% more efficient. More comfortable ride
Do you think model 3 will get the front bumper camera too?
Thanks for making great videos! I still use your car wash video to wash mine! I own a Model Y Performance bought in May 2024 when they were running the .99 APR. I definitely like the new design both outside and inside as it is more distinctive than the current one. Genuinely hope that they retain the turn signal stock as the buttons seem to be finicky. The only change that I don't like is moving the back numberplate holder to the bumper, as it looks a bit incomplete (more so because it looks like a flat rectangle, would have been better if they gave it a bit of a curve like Genesis GV 70). Overall, it looks like a really good update! I am very happy with the current Y and won't be switching over to the new one any time soon. The only meaningful change for me would be the ventilated seats, and that too is more like a good to have feature than necessity. Maybe a few years down the line.
My dilemma is I want the size of the model y with the interior of the model 3. The model y juniper will give me that but my issue is the exterior design is SO UGLY 😭 It's like the cybertruck and robocop in catdog form
The rear diaper is so true lol
You’re the first TH-camr I see saying Model Y comfort suspension is similar to Highland’s suspension. That’s funny, because I had THAT EXACT same impression when I test drove both before deciding on the Y, and man… I couldn’t notice ANY DIFFERENCE between the two. I’ll never get these reviewers saying “oh, New Model 3 has such a better suspension, it’s on a different league”. It’s literally identical do Y’s suspension. Both are harsh.
You would be wrong. Highlander has a completely different suspension, there are tech videos on it, it’s not up for debate !
How do I know? I have a 2022 model 3 and a 2023 Y which has the comfort suspension, which I don’t feel any difference from the 2022 model 3 which doesn’t.
However, I test drove the Highland, in 5 minutes , my wife who is not into cars, turned and said to me, man this thing is so quiet and smooth compared to our cars
@ I’m not disputing the hardware is different. But, again, when I did the demo drives to decide between Y and 3, I couldn’t notice a single difference in terms of suspension. Zero.
For sound, yes, 3 was slightly better.
I'm confused. I just went to the Tesla website and it's only showing the old model Y for sale. What gives??
Would you get the new AWD model Y OR the 2025 legacy AWD Model Y with all the inventory discounts? I’m still trying to decide.
Love all of the new features of the new model Y. But saving $100-$150 a month would be nice too.
What about the third row seating?
Front bumper camera, good luck using that in any rain or snow 😂
Tesla says to NOT use a screen protector…why do you use one?
What wheel and tire setup are you running on your M3P?
I wonder how many people will sell a highland 3 to buy a new y just to have “the newest tesla” because frankly the highland 3 was the first new tesla in 4 years since the original y came out
Do you know what happens to your interest rate if you trade in a Tesla they are also financing?
My upgrade to Juniper will only happen if I can maintain my current 0.99%... lol (if I had to guess, it won't carry over).
I'm single. I don't have dogs or kids. I'm 5'4". I don't actually need the extra space but i got the offer of a 24MY at the same price of a 24M3... so... I prefer for miles the model Y it is just more convenient and comfortable ❤
Removing the stalks was the dumbest thing Tesla ever made. Glad they changed their mind.
Disagree, I prefer the buttons.
@ Many fanboys do.
I don’t want the launch series because of the “launch” badges. Dates the car.
Elon should use the same light bar from the cyber truck
I prefer model 3,, but y is great car if you need more space.
I'm a bit upset because I wanted to get the refreshed model y but after the unveil, I think it's ugly. Would've looked better if it was simply a highland on a y
From a looks perspective, i think the new performance model 3 is the best looking car in Tesla's lineup.
Then I prefer the legacy 3 out of the 3/Ys in looks. The new Y is not really much better looking than the old Y in my opinion, just different. I don't know if i need to see it in person, but i am not feeling the new Y look from the videos and images i see.
The only thing about the new regular 3 I don't like that throws it off for me is the lower front. The removal of the air splitters makes it look flat. Like someone looking attractive with a face mask, (you cant see their mouth/chin) and when you remove the mask its just a disappointment like, was not expecting that...
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Lighter vs more space. Model y out sells model 3, 3 to 1. I bought m3p. I don't have any babies that i am aware of. My accountant said kids ain't in da budget. 🎉
Model y is fugly, relative to the old and new 3.
I love my 2025 m3.
not a fan of the front end of the Y
broskiiiii can I buy your M3 Performance???
Model y is ugly. It's pregnant. M3p 2024 is sick! 🔥🔥
The front light bar looks ugly
They will run apr specials for model 3 and y?
For familly Y 👍
Big misses for me compared to the Chinese and German models, Disappointed that the new model Y does not have the 95 KW hr battery 500 plus range, 800 volt for 500 kw charging.
Feels like living in a third world country
I tried to force myself to buy a 2025 m3 awd. 0% apr. Tax credit. Referal code. I walked away from it bc I wanted a performance.
I just don’t like the redesign. I hated light bars in the 90’s and I can’t believe they’ve made a return. It’s just offensively bad design and it makes the car look like more of a throwaway appliance than it already did. Whatever unique quality there was to the design of the Model Y which wasn’t much before is completely gone with this update. I think Tesla is just taking the gamble that they can gear the styling more to the Chinese market to hopefully increase sales there and that it won’t hurt the US market since crossovers sell well here anyway. It looks bad enough to me that I would buy a Model 3 instead the next time. My wife drives a Model 3 RWD and I have a Model Y Performance now just because I didn’t want a large vehicle, but still wanted the hatch. I had intended to buy a Model 3 Performance, but it didn’t make sense already having one Model 3 to me. If the Model 3 had a hatch I would have never considered the Model Y. It looks a bit awkward as it is compared to the Model 3. I don’t love it anyway, but it was my best compromise for speed and convenience coming out of a small performance hatchback which just doesn’t exist in the EV world.
I’d say I’d just buy something else, but I won’t be in the market for a new car in quite a while so it’s not even a concern for me anytime soon. It definitely won’t be this new Model Y though.
There is no acceleration boost upgrade to M3 AWD long range. Why you capping
There is in other countries
There’s absolutely no reason to buy a screen protector. It’s a total waste of money.
An Xbox can’t fit in a 3? I don’t believe it.
Not the console🤣. An Xbox fridge!
@ how does one acquire this technology?
The model Y Juniper is a lesser car than the model 3. It's a compromise for people with children
M3 looks and feels tiny. more suitable for girls
Current model Y looks much better. New model y front looks extremely basic and ugly
No new news here folks. Yawn.
the model y is ugly. it looks like a dated design from the 2000s or something. like a crappy saturn.
?
Then what do you call MB's EV lineup? Cause they're all fugly.
Looks better than the base Model 3, M3P looks nicer tho
It looks nice. You got no taste
It does look like a damn Saturn
One looks like a duck
Why do you insult a duck?
Don’t buy either. F Tesla. F Elon.