Explaining this rule to my friends and explaining why I'm allowed to bring back my entire graveyard of Infect/Stompy monstrosities was the second best thing that happened that game, but the real best part was getting my Nethroi counterspelled after I showed them and spending the rest of the evening eating shit from the entire table.
@@ryanstewart2289 - I actually play mostly janky mechanic-themed decks (like Nekusar), but most of my friends are aggro, so I'm the one doing the math.
Yeah I learned how to use the "×" symbol on my calculator and once won with Helix Pinnacle turn 2, but only beacuse Helix Pinnacle is an upkeep trigger. Everyone just got to sit and stare at the shroud enchantment with nearly 200 counters on it and a fuck ton of mana dorks and be sad because a mono green player learned math.
I am in the middle of making an all creature deck with nethroi as the commander. I learned of this a few days ago and man am I excited to dropped this combo on my play group.
Nice! I've been running a creaures only* nethroi deck in historic brawl for a while. Finally got around to making it in paper. I run a couple adventures and even got a PW (grist). I might put in one of the saga praetors just to get the card type as well
I mean, who says you can't be the life gain deck? Scourge say 20 minus the highest life total among players, not among opponents, and white, black, and green has solid life based strategies.
@@16chaos61 this. I play my nethroi as life gain/drain. Main goal is self mill then pull as many soul warden type creatures from my grave as possible along with cards like Dina, soul steeper, marauding blight-priest, etc. usually if nethroi resolves, I win
Roblox kid with parents credit card is a great line, funny man. I can't believe you did two videos on Apex of Death in 24 hours but no Kelsien the Plague video in two months. Great stuff
@@joejaboy I’m referring to an old thing where death’s shadow would go above 13 power if you were at negative life, so you could do things like fling it for obscene damage
@@ohthatpieI explained it on the previous video, but basically Nethroi checks for total power. Reanimating with Scourge means that to get to total power 10, you need total power 30. Because 30 power minus 20 totals 10.
ikoria is a special set. it introduced powerful triomes and mutations. on the scale of bringing it back. it stands at a "9". a 9 is very "likely" for ikoria to return. things that happen in ikoria, only happen in ikoria.. ikoria is its "own plane" ; apart from the lore of magic.
I really appreciate that you came back to this too as additional information since you said you didnt realize it was a thing at the time of the original video. Most creators would’ve just shrugged it off and moved on after replying to the comments.
Never trust an Abzan graveyard player. They may not be an Izzet math wiz kid, but the moment they learn how a specific equation works they *will* make sure _everyone_ finds out they know about it.
First you had my interest. Now you have my attention. I hadn't thought of that for this deck. Very much thinking of trying it out now. Muh backlog, though.
Zulaport Cutthroat, Blood Artist, Corpse Knight, Ayara, Grey Merchant, Falkenrath Noble, Cruel Celebrant, Elas il-Kor, and Teysa Karlov are all creatures in those colours. Add a sac outlet like Viscera Seer, and do with that information what you will xD
I was working on a variant using the arcbound creatures and similar monsters that are 0/0 in grave and get +1/+1 counters upon entering the field but now.... im literally shredding the document. I have no idea how to excel this but dear god this is not ok and that's exactly why Im here for it XD
Yep. And these are the same colors that run, oh, I don't know, Cathar's Crusade, Juniper Order Ranger, Hardened Scales, and Branching Evolution? Bring back as many hydras as you want friend, they have 0 power and toughness! But when they enter they'll get a counter from Cathar for each of them entering, so let's be conservative and say...five? Plus each will get another from Juniper, so 6. But oh. Wait. Hold on, we forgot our friends the enchants. You see, each of those is two-no, sorry, still forgot to factor in the green nonsense, I meant four. So...five hydras brought back for free with an instant 24 counters on each of them. And that's before we even throw MORE counter nonsense like new Ozolith, old Ozolith, Vorinclex, Kami of Whispered Shadows, etc. into the mix. Tldr; hydras are busted with Nethroi and Green continues to commit just as many crimes as Blue
@@ajcunningham5892 Actually no, most hydras require X being putting into their costs to enter with counters. Cathar's Crusade, as with most effects that put counters on creatures when they enter, are triggered effects. Nearly all of these types of effects would mean your hydras would die before the triggers resolve thanks to state based effects.
@@tonysmith9905 Good point. I forgot that when I did something similar in the past in a Poloukranos Reborn deck, I had anthems on the field to avoid that. Good catch!
@@ajcunningham5892 There are a few ways to get around this though. Bloodspore Thrinax is one that I know. Just remember the pump effect needs to be on the battlefield before what ever mass rez happens. If they enter together at the same time the Thrinax or what ever pump you use won't trigger on the hydras.
I bought a mystery commander deck today, a big risk, I pulled the 5 colors matters Jhoda deck, AND DUDE when I saw Nethroil in the deck list. I was so happy. Cuz I instantly thought of that skyclave demon and I was just. In necromancer heaven
As if it wasn't bad enough, Scourge checks all players, not just opponents, so as you drain out your opponents or pillow fort and increase your life total, you get larger and larger reanimation piles.
This is more like when the biggest man in the room proving he is a licensed accountant and he isnt afraid to use your skulls as his ledger and counting devices.
This sounds like the perfect card for a deck with green/black as it's main two colors... Oh, wait it's also got white.... Was this card designed to be exploited?
The definition of insanity and doing something again like asking for Progenitus and expecting difference ! But Progenitus has protection from everything so I won’t give up ! Day 14 baby !
@@kertkoljada1891 Nethroi allows you to bring creatures from your grave with a combined total Power of 10 or less. Scourge has a power of -20 if any player has 40 life (like in Commander). So, if you bring back Scourge, the total combined Power is -20, meaning you have 30 more Power worth of creatures you can bring back from the graveyard.
@@lo4tr OH MY GOD. Thank you so much, the negative power of scourge never clicked as bringing down the total. Holy shit. I've been trying to figure out what the point of this was for like half an hour. Make the deck have a minor life gain theme (or a swap selection of other stuff if going against a lifegain deck) and you can bring out everything.... Eerie (creatures-only) Ultimatum as a mutation trigger. This is insane.
yep. despite negative numbers never really functioning like that in magic nethroi is one of the few exception where it works the way you'd expect it to.
Yup. it's because it's asking for the "Total". Negative power doesn't really come up much, but it does exist (see Spinal Parasite and Char Rumbler) Since it's asking for the total, you're 'adding' Scourge's negative power to the rest of your reanimation targets power, essentially negating some of it.
I NEED you to make a vid about Galazeth Prismari. I’m a rat bastard that evades taxes and keeps treasures on the board forever and somehow pays for spells with food 💀
There is an unforgivable mistake in this video... Dwayne "the Rock" isn't coming back from the graveyard to do a chokeslam... he wouldn't be in these colors. Also, Undertaker is the graveyard chokeslam guy
I built my deck using 00 creatures that enter with either plus 1 + 1 counters. Or they get plus 1 + 1 for a certain thing. Happening so theoretically all of my cards while in the graveyard are 0 power. When they get on the field, it's a bunch of 33's. Or whatever
Leave my kitty alone dude!!!! xD Btw you forgot Karador my kittye best friends xD Who would let this happen again over a over without caring about commander tax Hahahahahaha xD
Don't make references to Wrestling if you don''t know what you're saying. The Rock never used the Chokeslam, he did the Rock Bottom, People's Elbow, and Spinebuster mainly
Yeah, I can wholeheartedly agree with how broken mutate can be. I had 2 different mutate decks, one I called Draconic Pathogen, the second I called Oozing Slivers. I bought every mutate creature that released in Magic, then methodically split them up and combined them with dragons and slivers. No group anywhere around will allow me to play either of those decks in any circumstance. Mutate makes things way too broken for absolutely no reason😅
Explaining this rule to my friends and explaining why I'm allowed to bring back my entire graveyard of Infect/Stompy monstrosities was the second best thing that happened that game, but the real best part was getting my Nethroi counterspelled after I showed them and spending the rest of the evening eating shit from the entire table.
Ah yes, the true Nethroi experience.
Do what 90% of all casual players do. Complain that countering your stuff isn't very casual of you.
You're in Uncounterable colors bro; if you're eating shit from blue, that's kinda your fault dawg.
Lmao deserved
As god intended
You broke the cardinal rule, committed the unforgivable sin, you taught the stompy players how to do maths.
As a stompy player A WIN IS A WIN!!!!!
Math is for blockers!
@@ApostleO I see an aggro player has entered the chat.
@@ryanstewart2289 - I actually play mostly janky mechanic-themed decks (like Nekusar), but most of my friends are aggro, so I'm the one doing the math.
I thought it was reading they had trouble with
And that negative power creature just gets sent right back to the graveyard so you can do it all over again.
Because abzan needs it, I GUESS
@@maldhoundBlue can't have all the fun, friend.
@@Quroe_he's an izzet player, he's not used to us Abzan players cheating like an izzet player
I was waiting for the real abuse to start.
The trick is to get anthem/lord effects from enchantments/other creatures’ that change it’s toughness when it enters so it doesn’t die immediately
A green player that can count and do basic arithmetic becomes an apex predator
We have birthed our own doom.
Nethroi players are black players at heart, green players still struggle to walk and talk at the same time
Guy i grew up with is a math professor(no idea what kind), he wanted to try out mtg. I started him off with golgari. I made a mistake
@@steveng6721 oh yeah, don't be fooled, the other colours are just for fun. It's a black deck all the way down.
Yeah I learned how to use the "×" symbol on my calculator and once won with Helix Pinnacle turn 2, but only beacuse Helix Pinnacle is an upkeep trigger. Everyone just got to sit and stare at the shroud enchantment with nearly 200 counters on it and a fuck ton of mana dorks and be sad because a mono green player learned math.
I am so happy this got a revisit over the absurdity that it is.
I do try to go back when I miss something that opens up a whole new archetype, like “vigorous, unapologetic cheating”
@@maldhoundremember to put in enough self-mill to make the Jace, Wielder of Mysteries/Thassa's Oracle/Laboratory Maniac/etc. player proud
Nethroi players' opponent: Oh cool it gets worse!
One could say it's a deep pain
@@kristiandahl1310But were they just minding their own business?
@@Zaros2400 nope all bullshit despite him actually just minding his own business
@@kristiandahl1310 i got this tfs reference and apreciate it
This is less your mistake and more magic being so complex that it implodes in on itself becoming even more complex
I am in the middle of making an all creature deck with nethroi as the commander. I learned of this a few days ago and man am I excited to dropped this combo on my play group.
I'm sure you thought of it, but if not, make sure you get Umori into that companion slot!
@@YourPalJamieEllis sure do. It is going to be fun. Syr konrad and dreadhound, cutthroat as some big dmg
Nice! I've been running a creaures only* nethroi deck in historic brawl for a while. Finally got around to making it in paper. I run a couple adventures and even got a PW (grist). I might put in one of the saga praetors just to get the card type as well
@@tylernol5113, you will pull this shit exactly one time on most good players.
All you need now is a hermit druid and three basic lands
It's always fun to see a lifegain deck across the table when running this combo
I mean, who says you can't be the life gain deck? Scourge say 20 minus the highest life total among players, not among opponents, and white, black, and green has solid life based strategies.
@@16chaos61 this. I play my nethroi as life gain/drain. Main goal is self mill then pull as many soul warden type creatures from my grave as possible along with cards like Dina, soul steeper, marauding blight-priest, etc. usually if nethroi resolves, I win
@@Bsipp777do you have a decklist? Im currently trying to build something like that
"So how many creatures do you get to bring back?"
Nethroi player: "Yes."
That's absolutely horrifying. I want to play it.
Most heartfelt apology on youtube
clicked on this very worried that mald would also be revising the "get it" status of this creature
If he wants to keep beating the furry allegations, he can't revisit that part.
So you're telling me that life gain can equate to mana cheating hmmmmmmmmmm
I love how Mald had to go, wait aggro players understand numbers?!? Like Blue didn't casually commit tax fraud every game.
Roblox kid with parents credit card is a great line, funny man. I can't believe you did two videos on Apex of Death in 24 hours but no Kelsien the Plague video in two months. Great stuff
I too as a Kelsien player. Want The Mald to do a Kelsien video.
It’s a genuine shame that this works but death’s shadow at negative life doesn’t, it was one of the funniest combos out there imo
Death's Shadow doesn't count because it's printed power is actually 13/13
@@joejaboy I’m referring to an old thing where death’s shadow would go above 13 power if you were at negative life, so you could do things like fling it for obscene damage
@@robinscompass5951 wait what? Death's Shadow could get more power if you had negative life?
@@joejaboy It used to be able to before a ruling change
@@joejaboyused to be that life was checked at the end of a phase rather than a SBA, iirc. Or smth else, but it wasn't instantaneous.
There are also a bunch of creatures that have 0 power, but enter with counters. They count as 0 for Nethroi's limit.
Mald pointed to Modular in the main roast for this commander.
But with -20 power from skyclave, you can reanimate The Tarrasque, Ulamog Ceasless Hunger, and still have 10 power left over...
@@rentonreel1778 do both. Get weird with it. Grab 30 creatures with Nethroi. Play dredge and dump your whole deck into the grave.
@@Ccaapp1996just play hermit Druid and keep only a few basics in the deck
how about some love for my boy Sakashima. He is a classic from wacky combos and weird decks!
Are we talking the old sakashima or the new one.
@@qxmdeadeye6170 Yes
That's absolutely fucking hilarious
No way this is really how this works? Seems like a nice combo lol
I want clarification as well lol
This is exactly how this works.
This was the reason i built Nethroi. It works.
@@ohthatpieI explained it on the previous video, but basically Nethroi checks for total power. Reanimating with Scourge means that to get to total power 10, you need total power 30.
Because 30 power minus 20 totals 10.
@@Commander_Skullblade that's amazing
Ikoria really was just an amazing set. I honestly wish we had more sets come out that favored 3 color pairs.
ikoria is a special set. it introduced powerful triomes and mutations. on the scale of bringing it back. it stands at a "9". a 9 is very "likely" for ikoria to return. things that happen in ikoria, only happen in ikoria.. ikoria is its "own plane" ; apart from the lore of magic.
I've found who's going to be my Abzan commander. Thank you very much.
I'm making a commander deck for each colour
I’ve found
*I’ve found the ant-Christ*
Another day of asking for Magus Lucea Lane and Imotekh the Storm Lord
Seconded for Imohtek
Just made Magus Lucea Kane, funny stuff happens when you untap additional times.
Yet another day of it not being Feather. Yet another day of me daring Mald to do a Feather video :V
Goddamn @maldhound you always be catching me off guard, but it's FACTS 😂🙏 I almost wanna send you my Azorius deck from MTGA
SHIT MAKES ME TOXIC AF!!
I really appreciate that you came back to this too as additional information since you said you didnt realize it was a thing at the time of the original video. Most creators would’ve just shrugged it off and moved on after replying to the comments.
Never trust an Abzan graveyard player. They may not be an Izzet math wiz kid, but the moment they learn how a specific equation works they *will* make sure _everyone_ finds out they know about it.
Even better since Nethroi gets that sweet, sweet Biollante swag. We go full Godzilla out here baby.
First you had my interest. Now you have my attention.
I hadn't thought of that for this deck. Very much thinking of trying it out now.
Muh backlog, though.
Just a reminder, it’s in black white, those are Orzhov vampire colors. 30 power of creatures is the lower limit, and that’s for every mutate
Zulaport Cutthroat, Blood Artist, Corpse Knight, Ayara, Grey Merchant, Falkenrath Noble, Cruel Celebrant, Elas il-Kor, and Teysa Karlov are all creatures in those colours. Add a sac outlet like Viscera Seer, and do with that information what you will xD
I don't get why the vampire thing matters just play the best creatures.
@@MakeVarahHappen Because vamps excel at lifesteal, making the combo even more busted.
@@erebusvonmori8050 the best lifelinker in the game is a one mana human.
@@MakeVarahHappen
Who cares about lifelink when you're comboing?
Plus mutate isn't effected by commander tax
You sure? Mutate is a cast
@@Snacksville com tax only applies to the mana cost and conventional casts unless they changed it
@@DeclanBarterIncorrect. Commander tax applies to any alternative costs, which includes mutate.
Damn when did that change
Another day of asking for Gargos and his tax fraud hydra friends
Gargos fight club is one of my favorite decks ever.
I love mutate so much. I hope they go back to Ikoria soon.
I don't need to build another deck why'd you show us this XD
I was working on a variant using the arcbound creatures and similar monsters that are 0/0 in grave and get +1/+1 counters upon entering the field but now.... im literally shredding the document. I have no idea how to excel this but dear god this is not ok and that's exactly why Im here for it XD
Hydra: when it enters put counters on it
0/0
Yep. And these are the same colors that run, oh, I don't know, Cathar's Crusade, Juniper Order Ranger, Hardened Scales, and Branching Evolution? Bring back as many hydras as you want friend, they have 0 power and toughness! But when they enter they'll get a counter from Cathar for each of them entering, so let's be conservative and say...five? Plus each will get another from Juniper, so 6. But oh. Wait. Hold on, we forgot our friends the enchants. You see, each of those is two-no, sorry, still forgot to factor in the green nonsense, I meant four. So...five hydras brought back for free with an instant 24 counters on each of them. And that's before we even throw MORE counter nonsense like new Ozolith, old Ozolith, Vorinclex, Kami of Whispered Shadows, etc. into the mix.
Tldr; hydras are busted with Nethroi and Green continues to commit just as many crimes as Blue
@@ajcunningham5892I'd say more crimes
@@ajcunningham5892
Actually no, most hydras require X being putting into their costs to enter with counters. Cathar's Crusade, as with most effects that put counters on creatures when they enter, are triggered effects. Nearly all of these types of effects would mean your hydras would die before the triggers resolve thanks to state based effects.
@@tonysmith9905 Good point. I forgot that when I did something similar in the past in a Poloukranos Reborn deck, I had anthems on the field to avoid that. Good catch!
@@ajcunningham5892 There are a few ways to get around this though. Bloodspore Thrinax is one that I know. Just remember the pump effect needs to be on the battlefield before what ever mass rez happens. If they enter together at the same time the Thrinax or what ever pump you use won't trigger on the hydras.
My first three-color commander deck was with Nethroi because I happened to pull one. Great stuff. I wish we had more lore on these Apex monsters.
Had to immediately let the nethroi player in my group know about this
I bought a mystery commander deck today, a big risk, I pulled the 5 colors matters Jhoda deck, AND DUDE when I saw Nethroil in the deck list. I was so happy. Cuz I instantly thought of that skyclave demon and I was just. In necromancer heaven
Ooof, you're gonna have to make *ANOTHER* follow-up video now, because the Chokeslam was not a maneuver in The Rock's arsenal... 😂
Just wait for some future universe beyond, The Rock will probably be a card soon
That's the deck name - Cheating with Variables.
As if it wasn't bad enough, Scourge checks all players, not just opponents, so as you drain out your opponents or pillow fort and increase your life total, you get larger and larger reanimation piles.
So wait.... are you telling me that it's not a total of 10, but because of the scourge, it's now 30?!(or more) Oh.... I can get into this.
The intended use of this deck is to bring back a limited force to turn the tide and with that one card, you are pretty much calling the Avengers.
This is more like when the biggest man in the room proving he is a licensed accountant and he isnt afraid to use your skulls as his ledger and counting devices.
This sounds like the perfect card for a deck with green/black as it's main two colors... Oh, wait it's also got white.... Was this card designed to be exploited?
It took 2 people an hour for me to finally get what this meant... jfc
I still don't get it 😂
Ikora was a mistake. Even the Phyrexian Invasion got stopped cold at Ikora.
oh no, this is terrible. will someone please link me a deck abusing this so that i may never accidentially play it?
Bro I'm tryna get away from Yu-Gi-Oh why tf this gotta chokes lam tf out of me!?
20 minus 40 at the beginning of the game, even more negative later on because abzan has access to more life gain than god.
I have been asking for many months can I please get a Vaevictis Asmadi the Dire vid?
Magic is stressful nowadays...the cards are getting too complicated
Now imagine this with a elf deck where casting a elf can get you 10,000 life
Can't wait to make this deck on arena where it won't be as good
There we go. This is why I came here, find something interesting and funny and make a new deck 😂
Thats silly
But technicly correct
The best kind of correct
This plus the new Ghalta allows even more tax evasion per tax evasion.
Abzan is the color combo I look at and say that's cool, but no thank you
Life gain, garbage but life=cards=life
Jesus Christ that’s horrifying
YESSS THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION
Im not bringing my friends, im bringing the entire neighborhood
The definition of insanity and doing something again like asking for Progenitus and expecting difference ! But Progenitus has protection from everything so I won’t give up ! Day 14 baby !
Oh no, he revealed our secret to the world
Are you serious? There is no way thats how it works 😂.
That is exactly how it works my boy!
More asking for Teneb the Hatvester and The Goose Mother
Commenting to stay on this algorithm
I had to watch this video twice to understand it lol
I still don't lol
@@kertkoljada1891 Nethroi allows you to bring creatures from your grave with a combined total Power of 10 or less. Scourge has a power of -20 if any player has 40 life (like in Commander).
So, if you bring back Scourge, the total combined Power is -20, meaning you have 30 more Power worth of creatures you can bring back from the graveyard.
@@lo4tr OH MY GOD. Thank you so much, the negative power of scourge never clicked as bringing down the total. Holy shit. I've been trying to figure out what the point of this was for like half an hour.
Make the deck have a minor life gain theme (or a swap selection of other stuff if going against a lifegain deck) and you can bring out everything.... Eerie (creatures-only) Ultimatum as a mutation trigger. This is insane.
Wait FR?????
yep. despite negative numbers never really functioning like that in magic nethroi is one of the few exception where it works the way you'd expect it to.
Fr fr
Yup. it's because it's asking for the "Total". Negative power doesn't really come up much, but it does exist (see Spinal Parasite and Char Rumbler) Since it's asking for the total, you're 'adding' Scourge's negative power to the rest of your reanimation targets power, essentially negating some of it.
Hmm... You didn't say if Nethroi could get it... Curious...
In their full roast I do specify that no it cannot
…. Now I want to do this! 😬😂
Do Toxrill please. Im losing hope
*sigh* guess I found my next deck
I NEED you to make a vid about Galazeth Prismari. I’m a rat bastard that evades taxes and keeps treasures on the board forever and somehow pays for spells with food 💀
but that's a kicker cost...it doesnt do anything if you just bring it back, it instantly dies...
You don’t need it to stay alive, you need it to have negative power in the GY to bring back additional OTHER creatures
@@maldhound OHHH YOU MEAN IT ADDS UP
IM SO DUMB
THANK YOU
Right now my favorite commander to mess around with Shadrix. It's such a fun and Chaotic commander for the Token Decks I love playing.
The best part of this is that The Rock doesn’t even use the chokeslam, that’s how bad you’ll have beaten your opponent.
Math is somehow no longer for blockers
I couldn't hit the like button fast enough on this video
Day 6, asking for my favorite commander, Horde of Notions! FOR THE HORDE!!
The show was better than the movie.
Built the deck. Tried using Death's Shadow, but got told that it was 13/13 in the graveyard. Then I discovered Scourge of the Skyclaves...
You know negative stats are the reason why every variable effect should have a (min 0) clause
There is an unforgivable mistake in this video... Dwayne "the Rock" isn't coming back from the graveyard to do a chokeslam... he wouldn't be in these colors. Also, Undertaker is the graveyard chokeslam guy
Hmmm....well, I AM looking for a Town Mascot for Hobbiton...
there should be a rule that * = 0 when the card is not on the battlefield.
would defeat the purpose of the asterisk. but also im with you XD
damn thats so cool i wanna try that now
I built my deck using 00 creatures that enter with either plus 1 + 1 counters. Or they get plus 1 + 1 for a certain thing. Happening so theoretically all of my cards while in the graveyard are 0 power. When they get on the field, it's a bunch of 33's. Or whatever
He was right about them abusing numbers. Just wrong about which ones. Now I'm facing down an entire graveyard.
...but Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson doesn't chokeslam... he'd hit 'em with the Rock Bottom, followed by a People's Elbow
Can someone explain how this works?😅. Like why using Scourge of the Skyclaves is so good for this.
Y'know, I'm late to saying this, but Scourge of the Skyclaves is a Demon, and I COULD build a Shadowborn Apostles deck using Nethroi as the leader...
Leave my kitty alone dude!!!! xD
Btw you forgot Karador my kittye best friends xD Who would let this happen again over a over without caring about commander tax Hahahahahaha xD
Don't make references to Wrestling if you don''t know what you're saying. The Rock never used the Chokeslam, he did the Rock Bottom, People's Elbow, and Spinebuster mainly
“Alright, and because I have three scourges in the graveyard (yeah that’s illegal) I summon 70 points of power back from the graveyard.
I just use things that have printed 0 power and enter with counters. Nearly everything with Modular, Sekki, Season's Guide, "Phantom" creatures, etc
Yeah, I can wholeheartedly agree with how broken mutate can be. I had 2 different mutate decks, one I called Draconic Pathogen, the second I called Oozing Slivers. I bought every mutate creature that released in Magic, then methodically split them up and combined them with dragons and slivers. No group anywhere around will allow me to play either of those decks in any circumstance. Mutate makes things way too broken for absolutely no reason😅
Sir -20 is still an integer
It is one of the many integers that can be the solution of the variable you have to solve for, it’s just one of the worse ones