@1:16:43 - arguably the best point in the entire discussion: Prof. Salman Sayyid's observation comparing the effect of Muslim versus Christian European rule on the survival of indigenous communities; the many examples still extant in the Muslim majority areas of the world compared to their absence throughout Christendom.
0:00 - Introducing the professor Salman Sayyid (SS) 2:14 - SS's remarks on him being "deeply grounded in the Western tradition and questioning the Eurocentrism of it" 2:35 - Synergy between the Textualist and Western post-modern traditions 4:02 - Rearticulation of the Islamicate, questioning the Islamic 5:47 - SS and Critical Muslim Studies interrogate the marker of "Islamic" 6:58 - The 'Islamic' and Eurocentricism 7:15 - Marking Islam restricts its expression 7:49 - Marking Islam as religion 8:19 - Deen as religion 9:05 - Post-enlightenment category of religion 9:53 - Muslimness vs Islamic 10:48 - Orientalism creates Islamic studies 11:20 - Anecdote for the uncertain relation between Islamic studies and the Muslim context 13:45 - A counter to "The Islamic is a product of Orientalism": Indigenous tradition 16:00 - Islamic Fundamentalism : Confusing religion with politics 17:40 - Speaking with authority and telling Muslims what they can or cannot do 18:21 - You can't be a Muslim in your own way 19:47 - Authority : Priesthood vs Scholarship 21:45 - What sort of Essentialism is problematic? 22:42 - Anti-essentialism & Anti-universalism 22:48 - Essentialism as a denial of historicity 25:30 - Islam has an essence, so you can make it up as you go along! 25:43 - Islam doesn't have an essence because nothing has an essence!
Sir, caliphate in 21st century exists in the form of OIC with headquarter in Riyadh S Arab. Yes there is some difference in the form of autonomy of OIC member countries. But this is as per the changes in 21st century political landscape.
What is the point of these conversations if both academics/ideologues basically agree on everything? Salman Syed is dancing on the head of a pin to differentiate racism in Europe and in Muslim polities. For example, Black slaves were treated worse than white-skinned Slav slaves in the Ottoman Empire. There needs to be more intellectual rigour here.
@1:16:43 - arguably the best point in the entire discussion: Prof. Salman Sayyid's observation comparing the effect of Muslim versus Christian European rule on the survival of indigenous communities; the many examples still extant in the Muslim majority areas of the world compared to their absence throughout Christendom.
0:00 - Introducing the professor Salman Sayyid (SS)
2:14 - SS's remarks on him being "deeply grounded in the Western tradition and questioning the Eurocentrism of it"
2:35 - Synergy between the Textualist and Western post-modern traditions
4:02 - Rearticulation of the Islamicate, questioning the Islamic
5:47 - SS and Critical Muslim Studies interrogate the marker of "Islamic"
6:58 - The 'Islamic' and Eurocentricism
7:15 - Marking Islam restricts its expression
7:49 - Marking Islam as religion
8:19 - Deen as religion
9:05 - Post-enlightenment category of religion
9:53 - Muslimness vs Islamic
10:48 - Orientalism creates Islamic studies
11:20 - Anecdote for the uncertain relation between Islamic studies and the Muslim context
13:45 - A counter to "The Islamic is a product of Orientalism": Indigenous tradition
16:00 - Islamic Fundamentalism : Confusing religion with politics
17:40 - Speaking with authority and telling Muslims what they can or cannot do
18:21 - You can't be a Muslim in your own way
19:47 - Authority : Priesthood vs Scholarship
21:45 - What sort of Essentialism is problematic?
22:42 - Anti-essentialism & Anti-universalism
22:48 - Essentialism as a denial of historicity
25:30 - Islam has an essence, so you can make it up as you go along!
25:43 - Islam doesn't have an essence because nothing has an essence!
What were the names of the historians Prof. Sayyid mentioned towards the end, when discussing the situation of non-Muslims under Muslim rule? T
Sir, caliphate in 21st century exists in the form of OIC with headquarter in Riyadh S Arab.
Yes there is some difference in the form of autonomy of OIC member countries. But this is as per the changes in 21st century political landscape.
What’s the name mentioned at 6:30?
There doesn't seem to be any particular book mentioned there. Was it another point in the discussion?
@@Islamic.perspectives. sorry I meant 16:30
@@yolakalemowa6519 Prof Sayyid says it refers to Columbia University scholar, Gil Anidjar’s work, though he didn't specify a particular book.
What is the point of these conversations if both academics/ideologues basically agree on everything?
Salman Syed is dancing on the head of a pin to differentiate racism in Europe and in Muslim polities. For example, Black slaves were treated worse than white-skinned Slav slaves in the Ottoman Empire. There needs to be more intellectual rigour here.