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  • @rnrtruestories
    @rnrtruestories  ปีที่แล้ว +264

    Do you guys like Jack White?

    • @DrunkMoblin
      @DrunkMoblin ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Not anymore? Lol. I was never big into his music, but I did respect him and his talent. Idk now though.

    • @cris_261
      @cris_261 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      He does his own thing, is a talented musician, and I respect him for that. His music isn't something I could listen to on a daily basis though. Kind of have to be in the mood.

    • @DrunkMoblin
      @DrunkMoblin ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@cris_261 Pretty much how I feel. It’s not bad, but not all for me.

    • @BillyReplies
      @BillyReplies ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Jack is an eccentric, reserved guy off stage, but he's been kind to me. People told me he was intimidating and mean, but I didn't get that at all.

    • @rodrisoulalalia6278
      @rodrisoulalalia6278 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      LOVE HIM.

  • @chelseagray1305
    @chelseagray1305 ปีที่แล้ว +748

    I met Jack last week, he played a small gig in New Zealand and I ended up waiting about an hour and a half after the show by the exit door. There was a group of about 30 of us waiting, they parked his van up right to the doors so he could quickly leave the door and get straight into the van. When he came out, he instead came out to us, shook all of our hands, thanked us for waiting in the cold, and asked if he sounded okay on stage. For someone that could be a complete asshole because of his large amounts of success, he was so humble and it was a pleasure to meet him.

    • @stephengallagher2209
      @stephengallagher2209 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Did he pop it in your freckle?

    • @Chairman639
      @Chairman639 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I've never met him but I live in Nashville and have been to 3rd Man Records. I like him and what he stands for.

    • @Christerious
      @Christerious ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You took the meg white portion waaay out of context. I’d guess that you did the same with the rest of this “story”.

    • @CynHicks
      @CynHicks ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So this dude, he's such a great guy! Check it out. This guy was holding a party that was like 50 dollars to get in on top of anything you might buy there, though you could pay more to get closer to him so you could really see him. The idea is he'd be the center of attention while entertaining us. So like we were all really wanting to tell him how much we loved him after the party was over and guess what! He didn't spit on us or tell us to get lost! If only everybody was like him right.
      😂

    • @dmitritelvanni4068
      @dmitritelvanni4068 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He appreciates his fans. He just doesn't play well with his colleagues. Which i can respect... But being a music snob myself, i don't appreciate the competition lol.

  • @shoot2thrill820
    @shoot2thrill820 ปีที่แล้ว +666

    So basically Jack White stands his ground, protects his art and throws hands when neccessary? I like him even more

    • @michaeltrevino201
      @michaeltrevino201 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@joesmif3728sit down, you ain't going to do a damn thing you little beta

    • @jasoncoomer1226
      @jasoncoomer1226 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Throw hands?
      He pulled hair and cussed.
      Hes nothing to worry about in a confrontation even for many women.

    • @TexasGolfer
      @TexasGolfer ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Not really, every relationship (music or personal) he has had has been a train wreck. At some point he has to look in the mirror and see he is problem.

    • @gangrene11
      @gangrene11 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The pictures seemed to tell a different story.

    • @XxxXxx-br7eq
      @XxxXxx-br7eq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      He spews complete ruling class social engineering propaganda even though I like his music

  • @dav6rtt617
    @dav6rtt617 ปีที่แล้ว +687

    Jack White was great in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

    • @michaelbanks2401
      @michaelbanks2401 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Johnny Depp played Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Jack White was Jasper in Twilight...

    • @tylerthompson1842
      @tylerthompson1842 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      So funny I wonder if Johnny was going for a little JW with that character. He pulled from Keith for Jack sparrow

    • @BeeHatGuy
      @BeeHatGuy ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@michaelbanks2401 it was a joke

    • @LoveintheshapeofaPitBull
      @LoveintheshapeofaPitBull ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He was in Cold Mountain with Nicole Kidman and Renee zellweger

    • @dav6rtt617
      @dav6rtt617 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@michaelbanks2401 Jack White was also great as Edward Scissorhands. He was born for the role.

  • @toughlifevirgina
    @toughlifevirgina ปีที่แล้ว +259

    I met Jack White once in a bar. He was so cordial and gave me a lot of time as we chatted about the compilation 'Sympathetic Sounds Of Detroit' that he put out. He was really great considering I was a complete stranger.

    • @TheCenteroftheUniverse
      @TheCenteroftheUniverse ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If a flattering, knowledgeable person strikes up a conversation when you're just killing time, it's a good thing, and you converse like gentlepersons. If some rude stiff comes up and acts like he deserves a prize for recognizing you, you blow 'em off. People that aren't jerks are just folks, most of the time, as long as they're not already doing something that cannot, by definition, include you.

    • @kanishajeffes5379
      @kanishajeffes5379 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👁️👁️😐u so lucky 🤣 😆👏💯

    • @adriantudhope5469
      @adriantudhope5469 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also met him at a Beck and the Flaming lips show at Detroit Opera house standing at the bar, he was a nice guy.

    • @Crunchy_Black
      @Crunchy_Black 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah but the conversation was about HIM and how good HE was it sounds like. I’m just saying what it sounds like…I wasn’t there obviously

  • @DaedBoi
    @DaedBoi ปีที่แล้ว +291

    Jack White and Johnny Depp should play each other in a crossover biopic.

    • @thatdude3977
      @thatdude3977 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      But theyre played by black actors 🤔

    • @jayroberts9103
      @jayroberts9103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Johnny Depp is looking for a new gig/front man..

    • @williamhermann6635
      @williamhermann6635 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ive never seen them both in the same room. Just saying...

    • @Camel_glasshouse
      @Camel_glasshouse ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Captain, Jack White

    • @bradleyburton5034
      @bradleyburton5034 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL! and Jack talks about The Black Keys stealing his sound.

  • @daBEAGLE1017
    @daBEAGLE1017 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    Would love to see a Jack White/Billy Corgan vs Marilyn Manson/Robert Smith tag team Celebrity Deathmatch on MTV.

    • @semyaza555
      @semyaza555 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Billy owns a wrestling promotion and could easily set up a hell in the cell.

    • @99fxr68
      @99fxr68 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I miss celebrity deathmatch...

    • @DrunkMoblin
      @DrunkMoblin ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Lez get it awn!

    • @edwincano1329
      @edwincano1329 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why Robert Smith?

    • @danielelez4863
      @danielelez4863 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Replace Robert Smith with Morrissey

  • @smmusicplus96
    @smmusicplus96 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I haven't been in a physical fight in over 20 years, then again nobody's spat on me in all of that time. If you spit on someone you shouldn't be surprised when that person physically attacks you.

    • @rickyhiemstra9993
      @rickyhiemstra9993 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      YEÀH! THAT'S LIKE THE TOTAL DISRESPECT 😯🤕

    • @csnide6702
      @csnide6702 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That would start it off with me.... !

    • @jackhaugh
      @jackhaugh ปีที่แล้ว +12

      If you’ve been spit on, you’ve been physically assaulted.
      I once got in a fight with a kid on my high school swim team because he crawled up over the stall next to me and tried to spit Copenhagen snuff spit between my legs while I was dropping a deuce.
      I finished doing what I was doing, and went and beat the crap out of that kid wearing only my Arena (think Speedo) swim trunks in an academic building that happened to have a pool in front of dozens of college students.
      My coach was supremely pissed at me because we were guests in that building, and I said to him “Would you let another person spit on you while you were taking a shit?”
      In all reality I should have been at least suspended from school, but nothing ever happened.

    • @smmusicplus96
      @smmusicplus96 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jackhaugh That's taking it to an extreme level as far as the other guy is concerned. No repercussion on your end as it should have been.

    • @TheCenteroftheUniverse
      @TheCenteroftheUniverse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a potentially deadly act since the AIDS virus found us. But for me, the dis is all I need for motivation. If I think about it as a weapon, it makes me not want to think about it, you know?

  • @diegojaque8597
    @diegojaque8597 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Rock was never meant to be complicated, this guy is a genius. Pleople saying his music is simple like is a bad thing, bro, he never tried to make complex music in the first place. His formula is so good that everyone can enyoy it. Even my little brother like this band. You can tell something is good when that happens.

    • @el6tomejorcritico666
      @el6tomejorcritico666 ปีที่แล้ว

      so does Justin Bieber

    • @BC08
      @BC08 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is not capable of composing complex or intellectual music

    • @Brando_Magnifico
      @Brando_Magnifico ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate it when artists think something is genius because its simple. Very rare something simple is genius. It just appears this way because most fans are idiots that like to believe they are smart and or significant. Sssstupid!

    • @coryvincent1932
      @coryvincent1932 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sure he is. No one likes Dream Theater.

    • @williamsherman1089
      @williamsherman1089 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@BC08 Rock and Roll was never supposed to be complex, at it's core it's a folk art

  • @GummyBearWA
    @GummyBearWA ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I met JW a couple of times and he's an odd duck but he was always brutally honest.

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I can't help but ask why you say brutally honest? (Im also just curious about the altercation in general)

    • @StandWatie1862
      @StandWatie1862 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's a punk that never got a reciept

    • @felixd.4150
      @felixd.4150 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@the-engneer Are you familiar with Asperger's? Jack is probably on the spectrum and lacks various social graces.

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@felixd.4150 That makes perfect sense actually

    • @felixd.4150
      @felixd.4150 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@the-engneer On the other hand he's also very savvy and quick witted so who knows. I'm not a shrink. He's probably just pompous but I dunno man, write a riff that the entire world knows then check-in on how your ego has handled it and lemme know.

  • @tmrevenge
    @tmrevenge ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Nothing says badass more than the sad cat lady hairstyle

    • @jamesarmitage6089
      @jamesarmitage6089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hmm. C'mon.... not even Johnny Depp's make up style, from every role, in any given Tim Burton movie??

    • @tmrevenge
      @tmrevenge ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesarmitage6089 close second XD

    • @Dark_Harmony
      @Dark_Harmony ปีที่แล้ว

      I want his hair to remain big, long, & messy, but he keeps cutting it so short, straightening it, & platting it down...& then that popsicle blue color....c'mon Jack. Keep it black & crazy, because, it works, ya lucky, hot bastard!

  • @CommodoreFloopjack78
    @CommodoreFloopjack78 ปีที่แล้ว +355

    I just can't picture Jack White getting into a physical altercation with anyone. He looks to be about as threatening as a glass of Ovaltine.

    • @waffensuperninja
      @waffensuperninja ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Well he is 6'2 and not skinny

    • @johncollins211
      @johncollins211 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      6'2 not skinny and from a poor neighborhood in detroit. Probably not as soft as you think.

    • @samcoon6699
      @samcoon6699 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Yes, underestimate people. That's a great idea. You have no idea what people are capable of.

    • @motorcity7137
      @motorcity7137 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comment is dumber than your screen name. Try harder

    • @TheLochs
      @TheLochs ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I love Ovaltine, its tasty.

  • @sistertracy-thechurchofroc6574
    @sistertracy-thechurchofroc6574 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I like his music. He's extremely talented. I don't HAVE to "like" him as a human being. Fuck, I don't even KNOW him. Why do people always confuse the artist with the art?

    • @mikehemens9359
      @mikehemens9359 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yah I don't like him either.

    • @Paulosav1970
      @Paulosav1970 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's a very good point, I don't like getting punched ...but I love Rocky😂

    • @sistertracy-thechurchofroc6574
      @sistertracy-thechurchofroc6574 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Paulosav1970 🤣🤣🤣

  • @JamesCraigWhoop
    @JamesCraigWhoop ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I can tell that we aren't gonna be friends
    Joking aside, the press blows things out of proportion

    • @Dark_Harmony
      @Dark_Harmony ปีที่แล้ว

      Or, they purposely leave big gaping holes in them. A lot of what the media says is either really confusing, or so made up.

  • @Jizzlewobbwtfcus
    @Jizzlewobbwtfcus ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sounds like Meg was more down to earth and tried to keep Jack from getting too cocky.

    • @isaacburdiss
      @isaacburdiss ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah! From what I've heard she seems like a humble person which strong juxtaposes White. This may have ended the band

  • @thetruthexperiment
    @thetruthexperiment ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You could have seen Meg just about any night at various dive bars in Nashville in 2009. I know I did. Saw her playing pool and drinking at the Spring Water Supper Club all the time. I wouldn’t call that reclusive, just not doing interviews. She was in public all the time. She wouldn’t get mobbed, she was polite and funny. People gave her space but she was interactive. Those were good days.

    • @fangsabre
      @fangsabre 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Reclusive for a 'celebrity'
      I use quotes because I doubt she would think of herself as such, since she's pretty much ignored the media since the White Stripes ended

  • @nathanbusch3953
    @nathanbusch3953 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Good to see Johnny depp looking so healthy after the trial

    • @thomasbowe9956
      @thomasbowe9956 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great comment, haha

    • @oncearoundtheparkpls
      @oncearoundtheparkpls ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂

    • @ront769
      @ront769 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmfao. Still laffing 10 mins later!

    • @coppereagle3830
      @coppereagle3830 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always thought the same thing he look fairly similar to Johnny depp

    • @jamesarmitage6089
      @jamesarmitage6089 ปีที่แล้ว

      i thought the exact same thing

  • @nsbd90now
    @nsbd90now ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I definitely like his music. He has always struck me as a normal guy with a talent so he might be kind of cranky sometimes, but a good guy you could just hang with without being focused on how he makes his living.

  • @jackshaw6793
    @jackshaw6793 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Noel Gallagher called Jack White "Zorro on doughnuts" which might be the funniest thing ever said.

    • @rainflowers1099
      @rainflowers1099 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He's said a lot of funny things, but that's pretty good haha!

    • @drdyer23
      @drdyer23 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      lol that's gold! also gold: freddy mercury calling sid vicious "simon ferocious"

    • @Simon-ir1xj
      @Simon-ir1xj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An admittedly awesome slight, laughed for a long time when I first read that one...

    • @raoulduke344
      @raoulduke344 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@drdyer23 "what are you going to do about it"?

    • @sistertracy-thechurchofroc6574
      @sistertracy-thechurchofroc6574 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not really...ever watch Richard Pryor, George Carlin or Robin Williams do stand-up? Waaay funnier.

  • @trashmanzero7827
    @trashmanzero7827 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Funniest joke I ever heard about it was someone described him as "real life Tim Burton character, Jack white"

  • @LoriVFenske
    @LoriVFenske ปีที่แล้ว +15

    He played on my boyfriends softball team in Detroit when he was still playing local spots coming up. He was young and according to some of the guys, ‘a tool.’ But I’ve always like him. He’s brilliant and now a dad-which usually helps you grow up.

    • @liz9330
      @liz9330 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What is the meaning of "a tool" ? 😅

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@liz9330 Everybody has known a "tool" at one time or another. Tools are everywhere!

  • @monolithsound
    @monolithsound ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Jack White is one of those once in a lifetime musicians, writers, producers, artists really. I think that he is able to slip between genres at ease. I'm 57 and a huge fan. He is genius, I believe.

    • @PamelaHdz-jp2xt
      @PamelaHdz-jp2xt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Concordo, é un genio 🤍🖤❤️

    • @GatesRapes
      @GatesRapes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I must agree

    • @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
      @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're almost as old as I am but JW is no where close to once in a lifetime. Maybe for X ers

    • @annaknight5111
      @annaknight5111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most definitely ❤

    • @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
      @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @annaknight5111 I am not in agreement with you guys. As I see him as an overrated punk. Waste of good but not great talent. JW is not Keith Richard's 69 to 74 and certainly not ,Jeff Beck in any era. Thanks!

  • @s.deegan3740
    @s.deegan3740 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I met this dude in a flea market here in Georgia in 2009. He was all right. Not the nicest but not the worst. The drummer from the Cramps was the worst.

    • @s.deegan3740
      @s.deegan3740 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lulululu2109 because he isn't.

    • @s.deegan3740
      @s.deegan3740 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lulululu2109 I don't have any amazing Revelation for you about your hero, although I will say that yes he is absolutely just as pale as he always looks on the television. The guys just kind of a dick. But he's not that much of a dick as the drummer from The Cramps was when I met him. I promise there was no hidden meaning in my original comment. Take it at face value

  • @Menstral
    @Menstral ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Jack White seems to have some integrity. Thumbs up, but I wish I thought Jack White was as cool as Jack White thinks he is.
    The more I know about rock stars, the less I want to know.

    • @jasonking7386
      @jasonking7386 ปีที่แล้ว

      You haven't posted any videos in almost a year. What happened?

    • @larrydanadavid2435
      @larrydanadavid2435 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You probably should have wished for your comment to be as clever as you thought it would be.

    • @vampirascoffin870
      @vampirascoffin870 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larrydanadavid2435 facts!!!

    • @Menstral
      @Menstral ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonking7386 I'm working on a book

  • @honkytears
    @honkytears 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I've not met Jack White, but I spent an hour with his bassist, in a nursery where we were both sort of hiding out at a wedding. He was a very kind and humble dude. I imagine Jack is just the same. I have no issue with an artist speaking up in defense of his work.

  • @LePhil79
    @LePhil79 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Noel Gallagher once said that Jack White "looks like Zorro on doughnuts". It's kind of true..

    • @konstantincvetanovic5357
      @konstantincvetanovic5357 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is there a rock celebrity Noel Gallagher did comment?

    • @justinereno7446
      @justinereno7446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noel Gallagher is a pretentious ass hat clown.
      He’s always putting other artists down.

    • @Dark_Harmony
      @Dark_Harmony ปีที่แล้ว

      ....That's just his stage makeup.....

  • @johndalton3180
    @johndalton3180 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I LOVE Jack White like a little brother.

  • @gabrielcastillo4606
    @gabrielcastillo4606 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    He makes badass music. He definitely has an intelligent mind. His actions, & his music are a product of his mindset. He feels the way he feels & when he acts out, people may not understand it. He is far beyond the average Joe mindset. I say rock on.

  • @AlexanderSamualDunnett
    @AlexanderSamualDunnett ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Love almost every note I've ever heard come from this enigmatic individual. He doesn't seem friendly like some other musicians but what he lacks in social skills I think he makes up for it in musical talent.

    • @gangrene11
      @gangrene11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, I don’t need to hang out with him. And tbh, even at his worst, he seems like he’s better than a lot of people.

    • @bridgeshague3865
      @bridgeshague3865 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is politically brain dead. So he should shut up about them and just play his guitar.

    • @a81758
      @a81758 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm sure he's fine. He just doesn't do silly, superficial niceties that's all.

  • @HolyShnikeez_1975
    @HolyShnikeez_1975 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Other rock stars to Jack White: I can tell that we are not gonna be fiends

    • @Dark_Harmony
      @Dark_Harmony ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well if they're not fiends, they're friends.....Right?!

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fiends for what? Caffeine? Nicotine? Worse stuff?

    • @HolyShnikeez_1975
      @HolyShnikeez_1975 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sorry there was definitely meant to be an R in that. Yall knew that though because of their song so your just being a smart smartasses lol

  • @tylerthompson1842
    @tylerthompson1842 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    “He landed on my hand” has got to be the best excuse for punching someone in the face I’ve ever heard lol I love ya JW but ffs

    • @madarab37
      @madarab37 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and pulled his hair. Clearly Jack is the victim here and not the aggressor. Buahhahhah

  • @iamBENJAM
    @iamBENJAM ปีที่แล้ว +12

    In regards to music - Jack White is completely brilliant.

  • @ChucksterOLove
    @ChucksterOLove ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My brother Dan actually tuned a piano for Jack White's band a few years ago. White's manager gave my brother a quick rundown of Jack's rules.
    These included no direct eye contact with Jack, no speaking to Jack unless he speaks to you first, no phones, no pictures, no autographs, and no handshakes or any physical contact whatsoever.
    So, you could say he's kinda Diva-ish.... 🙄💯

    • @mss11235
      @mss11235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Athletes prior to athletic events are escorted by security. Are they divas? Actors at awards shows have security and only authorized people are allowed to interview them. Are they divas? When I am in public I don't let other consumers speak with me or bother me.
      He is focused on routine to deliver his best performance for the paying audience.
      Fcking hell

  • @fv6125
    @fv6125 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I still find it funny that Billboard placed Meg White no.2 on its list of the 30 top-performing women on the 30th anniversary of Billboard Alternative Songs chart, with Dolores O'Riordan of the Cranberries deservingly taking the lead spot. The following are talented singers/musicians/songwriters that Meg White supposedly outperform: 3. Siouxsie Sioux; 5. Alanis Morissette; 6. Kate Pierson & Cindy Wilson of The B-52's; 7. Gwen Stefani of No Doubt; 8. Natalie Merchant of 10,000 Maniacs; 11. Courtney Love of Hole; 14. Kate Bush; 16. Sarah McLachlan; 17. Sinéad O’Connor; 18. Harriet Wheeler of The Sundays; 19. Sheryl Crow; 20. Björk; 22. Suzanne Vega; 23. Tori Amos; 24. Tanya Donelly & Gail Greenwood of Belly; 25. Margo Timmins of Cowboy Junkies; 26. Elizabeth Fraser of Cocteau Twins; 27. Chrissie Hynde of Pretenders; 29. Meriel Barham, Miki Berenyi & Emma Anderson of Lush; and 30. Kim Gordon of Sonic Youth.

  • @Kiddingyoumust
    @Kiddingyoumust ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Seem like this is more about people Jack had an issue with... more than people who couldn't stand him lol

    • @TdT2211
      @TdT2211 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or people Jack took no shite from. Lol

    • @jamesalan3450
      @jamesalan3450 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hahahaa, that is exactly what I thought. Every band or musician mentioned in this piece was thrown under the bus by White first... oh, except maybe the Vondys (Von Blondies? I can't remember their name already).

  • @hjbrophy3769
    @hjbrophy3769 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Genuinely Jack is the nicest man I’ve ever met.

  • @steveyj3002
    @steveyj3002 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What’s really crazy is how the vonbondies were on their way but after that fight they started going back into the background

  • @AGoodJoe
    @AGoodJoe ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I imagine he’s a bit on the spectrum. Brilliant, but hard to be around

  • @duncanfoley509
    @duncanfoley509 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Jack White lives music. His passion is inspiring. I respect and love the guy for that.

    • @zebraneighbor6383
      @zebraneighbor6383 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's so talented but he also seems to completely lack any understanding of how people consume music, and he's a huge dick.

  • @LoFiMofo
    @LoFiMofo ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Meg was at the Raconteurs tour opener in Detroit in 2019, i saw her in the balcony and Jack also announced it. I think they’ve mended fences.

  • @kyleheglund5043
    @kyleheglund5043 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wait...so Jack White was annoyed some other band came into his world? He mimicked a lot of old blues artists. Same way The Beatles mimicked Elvis. Not putting the guy down, but it's similar to someone claiming someone else is using oils and pastels.

  • @adriaanvanberge1232
    @adriaanvanberge1232 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Now I am fantasizing about Jack and Dan Auerbach becoming best friends and creating great music together in Nashville. Them calling a truce and becoming friends is huge.

    • @megadethmofo2001
      @megadethmofo2001 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They could be The White Keys, or...
      The Black Stripes.

    • @whiskeyandkittens6999
      @whiskeyandkittens6999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This comment made my life and I hope to see it one day.

  • @cropcircle5693
    @cropcircle5693 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "He landed on my hand." That's a real mans humble brag right there!

  • @SwampyWilkinson
    @SwampyWilkinson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw Jack at a grocery store in Los Angeles last year. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
    The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
    When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

    • @Cthylla417
      @Cthylla417 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i can’t tell if this is joke or not but it seems too oddly specific to not be true

  • @SteveMccart-uj7ec
    @SteveMccart-uj7ec ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Odd , a good friend of mine used to play keyboards for the guy and he never said a single bad word about the experience....then again White could have been a total jerk , and my friend wouldn't say a thing about it. (He was genuinely one of the nicest people ever)

  • @cheekywun
    @cheekywun ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Jack White also had a punch up with another musician while they were both on the bill for the Big Day Out Festivals in Australia. Can't remember which year it was or who the other musician was but it was apparently over the other musician hitting on Meg White, she didn't like it and Jack White beat the shit out of him.

    • @medecko4394
      @medecko4394 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jack being protective of Meg that way is endearing but it is crossing the line tbh.

    • @cheekywun
      @cheekywun ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@medecko4394 I don't know. She didn't mind it as apparently the other musician wouldn't take no for an answer.

    • @medecko4394
      @medecko4394 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cheekywun Ah, I guess it’s justified.

    • @godwarrior3403
      @godwarrior3403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@cheekywun Yeah that's how that works

    • @Dark_Harmony
      @Dark_Harmony ปีที่แล้ว

      @@medecko4394 TRUST ME, when I say it was very much crossing the line, as, if this is the story I know, she loved the attention, because she was dating him, & Jack was jealous, sooo.....

  • @plasticoflamingo2952
    @plasticoflamingo2952 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretentious twits "feuding", until they get the attention they crave. Then, they become pretentious twits who adore each other. How sweet.

  • @Amazonian11
    @Amazonian11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jack White was awesome as Elvis in The Dewey Cox Story. 🕺

  • @judas_saves
    @judas_saves ปีที่แล้ว +24

    They are all mostly jealous! Because Jack did something so un-apologetically simple yet it blew up like there is no tomorrow. And not only a song here and there - he is a hit maker

    • @krein511
      @krein511 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤣🤣🤣 NOT REALY

    • @theloniouszappa
      @theloniouszappa ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hes not that great of a musician/songwriter.

    • @jovanreid6782
      @jovanreid6782 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theloniouszappa You're not even knowing.

    • @judas_saves
      @judas_saves ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@theloniouszappa I never said he is Paganini or Mozart - I said his simple approach made him a big player.

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he just caught the wave before everyone else

  • @alezf9813
    @alezf9813 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I was half expecting a 2 hour long video

    • @Dark_Harmony
      @Dark_Harmony ปีที่แล้ว

      This video was pretty lame.

  • @tylerthompson1842
    @tylerthompson1842 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You missed a bit of the story.. he tried to fight Pat Carney in a bar mostly cause he felt their success was due to The White Stripes. I’ve never even made the connection aside from they’re both 2 pieces lol

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes ปีที่แล้ว +14

      right! The Black Keys sound nothing like the White Stripes. BKs are straight blues, WSs are more pop rock than anything imo

    • @ukmary1968
      @ukmary1968 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not the same since the Black Keys tour with a band

    • @BCThunderthud
      @BCThunderthud ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The White Stripes and the Von Bondies and Jay Reatard all got started at the tail end of the 90s garage punk scene, but most of those bands were breaking up and when the White Stripes got big, they had a whole new audience and by default became the beginning of a big new thing. The Black Keys probably wouldn't have gotten as big a push if the White Stripes hadn't had hits but neither band sounds alike or much like anyone else. None of the things they have in common are things that the Flat Duo Jets, Oblivians or Jon Spencer Blues Explosion hadn't done before them. I suspect the real story is a combination of something personal and Jack White not liking interviews.

  • @francisgomes9976
    @francisgomes9976 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lmao these dude is weak as F "Orange man is back in Twitter, nooooooo! 😭😭😭"

  • @HarrisonBeam
    @HarrisonBeam 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Met him at a restaurant in Nashville, literally one of the most humble and genuine people I’ve ever met! Never forgetting that as long as I live!

  • @SuperBroncosguy
    @SuperBroncosguy ปีที่แล้ว +19

    After watching The Big Interview with Dan Rather my opinion changed. He's actually pretty cool. Sharp dresser too. Smart unusual dude.

    • @MrRandall486
      @MrRandall486 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rather seemed to be a huge fan too. You could tell he was really into Jack's answers.

    • @SuperBroncosguy
      @SuperBroncosguy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MrRandall486- Agreed. You could tell by Rather's face & twinkle in his eyes. It was the total opposite for Gene Simmons, Lol.

  • @adamcoleman4001
    @adamcoleman4001 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Calling Jack White a little girl and saying “he started it” in the same breath is a bit ironic, no? 😂

  • @jammyjams8522
    @jammyjams8522 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why include blurred portions of footage in the video at all?

    • @isaacburdiss
      @isaacburdiss ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably got a copyright claim. You're able to do that afterhand versus deleting the video

  • @mintywebb
    @mintywebb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He spat at the guy then whined when he got hit...

  • @SerpentStar_
    @SerpentStar_ ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Huge fan, just saw Jack in October. FIRST TIME in the 1000s of shows I've been to a venue (Hardrock) literally locked away your phone!

    • @jera9654
      @jera9654 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saw Bill Burr at an arena last weekend. Line to get in was backed up for phone pouches. The people with the magnets to "unlock" the pouches got utterly mobbed on the way out.

    • @the-engneer
      @the-engneer ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's kinda sad they have to do this in the first place

    • @thomasbowe9956
      @thomasbowe9956 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jer A wow what a mess, couldn't imagine that. I guess it's been awhile since I've been out lol

    • @BostonDeadHead
      @BostonDeadHead ปีที่แล้ว

      @@the-engneer it was jacks idea. He wanted people to have a concert experience like we all did in the 70s, 80s and 90s, where everyone's in the moment. The night is unique because there's no videos or recordings of it if you wanted to experience it you have to be there. He wanted the full attention of the crowd. In theory this was a good idea. But having went s to a show and having my phone locked up. It was ok. I didn't see much of a difference except. Saw him in Maine this year. Funny part was the place was super hard core about no puffing cannabis. Which must have been the bands rule because just a month later I cought Trey from Phish there and you couldn't see threw the cannabis smoke.

    • @handsformaps3973
      @handsformaps3973 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love the no phone shows

  • @hitide868
    @hitide868 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Saw Jack White in concert the next night saw the Black Keys. Great weekend. I love JW!

    • @madarab37
      @madarab37 ปีที่แล้ว

      How dare you! I'm going to tell Jack.

  • @user-gy8co5qy2z
    @user-gy8co5qy2z 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like him because he's a diverse musician. He's very talented. I don't really care if he has feuds with other artists. I just like his music. He didn't ask to be considered a saint.

    • @Tanzadog1
      @Tanzadog1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interestingly enough, it seems like in most of the instances, after time had passed under the bridge the feuding parties reconciled and praised each other

  • @ericg1100
    @ericg1100 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He is right about the black keys, they do feel like an imitiation; i cant describe it other than that

    • @michaelhauser6440
      @michaelhauser6440 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They sound nothing alike

    • @ericg1100
      @ericg1100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaelhauser6440 no an imitation of white stripes, just a soulless imitation of what they think rock should sound like

    • @michaelhauser6440
      @michaelhauser6440 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ericg1100 They're both blues rock and that's it lol

    • @ericg1100
      @ericg1100 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelhauser6440 nah one has a truth to it the other feels false

    • @michaelhauser6440
      @michaelhauser6440 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericg1100 Ok

  • @nickknight5543
    @nickknight5543 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So Johnny Depp is also Jack White..interesting.

  • @CBGB_1977
    @CBGB_1977 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve met him a few times. He’s always been cool with me because I don’t intrude and talk to him like an old friend.

    • @michaelhauser6440
      @michaelhauser6440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're a girl. Most dudes are cool with girls

    • @Dark_Harmony
      @Dark_Harmony ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelhauser6440 Eh, not really. Well....maybe the stupid ones. But try to be musical with them......

  • @avgjoegeek71
    @avgjoegeek71 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like how Jack's comments about Meg were pretty much... "She wouldn't stroke my ego - but I still love her dearly"

  • @jayradford427
    @jayradford427 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I saw Jack White in concert this year. And the Black keys. I don't know how anyone could call White a musician he totally sucks ! The Keys however killed it !

  • @AugustMedia
    @AugustMedia ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jack is a nice guy, just a good ol' Detroit boy at heart. If you're an asshole or disrespectful to him, naturally like anyone, he'll be the same back to you. What the Hell do you expect?

  • @jaybug1171
    @jaybug1171 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Black Keys forgave White after that sick burn? Damn, good on them.

  • @csnide6702
    @csnide6702 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The only time I spoke to him he was cordial....... I was running a store and he came in looking for what we had a ton of.... he was checking all the stuff out and his wife(disproportionetly hot redhead-as in NO WAY this hot babe is with this VERY PALE dude that needs a haircut) -at the time- came in and they started conversing and left rather abruptly without buying anything..... Oddly enough she said "Coca-Cola called and I told them I didn't know if you wanted to do it " . He answered "yeah, I want to do it !" - so I assumed there was going to be a White Stripes Coke ad (those logos would match perfectly) but I never saw such an ad.

    • @phyllysanantonio
      @phyllysanantonio ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love stories like this. I’m a notorious eavesdropper. Yea. I did not get those two together. I think his family was to hokey for her.

  • @TheSuburban15
    @TheSuburban15 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Jack White really isn't in any position to be talking about sound-alike bands or stolen riffs. There's a Raconteurs song that starts with the "Is She Really Going Out With Him," intro. There's another song with a riff from "Daydream Believer."

    • @leipherd8118
      @leipherd8118 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed! There's little copyrightable about the White Stripes sound. It's all a bit Zeppelin complaining about other bands riding on their already borrowed shirt tails (shirts with every name tag removed).
      White Stripes were OK but the Black Keys nailed it and certainly felt more authentic than White, whose music always came across as very calculated rather than heartfelt, which I always get from Dan.

    • @wnerko7484
      @wnerko7484 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally.they stole from joe jackson

    • @elijahcorbett7476
      @elijahcorbett7476 ปีที่แล้ว

      @indifference1they don’t sound anything alike in any way bro wyd bro

  • @ukmary1968
    @ukmary1968 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Y'all are a bunch of Jack White haters. He's brilliant. And starting Third Man records had been huge. He's introduced us to Ashley Monroe and Margo Price. He's worked with Loretta and Wanda Jackson, just to name a few. You can dislike him but don't dimish his accomplishments

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not to mention he has the respect/friendship of both Jimmy Page and Bob Dylan (not to mention many others; I mention those two because just _one_ of them expressing admiration for my art would be FINE). I remember I read once that before The White Stripes hit it real big, they were playing at a venue or maybe even a club somewhere in New York City. A bouquet a flowers arrived with a note included: from Bob Dylan. He congratulated them for their rising success, and said he wanted to attend their show but there was no way he could without a huge amount of people mobbing him and ruining it for everyone else. Jack and Meg loved Bob Dylan , so that had to have been surreal for them.

  • @obus4186
    @obus4186 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Meg probably kept him humble. Jack Whites lead guitar on Ball & Biscuit is raw and powerful, like a steam locomotive and demonstrates his prowess as a musician

  • @stephenseed5015
    @stephenseed5015 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had a fight and lost a friend over the WS . He is an artist. Let him art.

    • @jovanreid6782
      @jovanreid6782 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's WS?

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes ปีที่แล้ว

      two ppl can not like the same thing and still be friends. I dont know about you but I’d rather be Happy with friends than right 🤷‍♂️

    • @globalnova
      @globalnova ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jovanreid6782 Wisconsin Sunset

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jovanreid6782 Going out on a limb here and saying "White Stripes."

    • @jovanreid6782
      @jovanreid6782 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnr.8275 Lol how in the hell did I not make that connection in a video about Jack White. Not too quick on the uptake sometimes I guess 😆 lol thanks dude.

  • @garyelder-hx5vs
    @garyelder-hx5vs ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This guy's a genius , though I don't think I'd personally like him . I just respect his work and the fact that he does re upholstery of furniture is a difficult trade. His artistry is simple and effective but he shows with simplicity and straight forward attack what a musician with limited instruments can accomplish. Original music ,great music quality, that's genius ...

  • @zealousie
    @zealousie ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i'm not a huge fan of Jack's music, though I don't hate it when it's on. but i really dig him as a person. integrity makes people uncomfortable, and he's deserving of praise in his not be giving a f*ck about that.

  • @rebeccageorgesisto8965
    @rebeccageorgesisto8965 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey I always say-because I feel it’s 100% true-that if everyone loves ya, you’re doing something wrong….youre not making a stand against anything if you don’t have a few enemies/shit-talkers.
    Love Jack and respect him.

  • @montgomeryreece7720
    @montgomeryreece7720 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked The White Stripes when they were called Flat Duo Jets…….

    • @johngalush8790
      @johngalush8790 ปีที่แล้ว

      The White stripes always sucked

  • @PhantomFilmAustralia
    @PhantomFilmAustralia ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Meg not singing his praises, no high fives, or kissing his ass was probably the only thing keeping him grounded, and probably why they lasted as long as they did.

  • @andromedashun6697
    @andromedashun6697 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Jack White lookin like Johnny Depp in Dark Shadows

  • @tinalovell7989
    @tinalovell7989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He must be so horrible that Loretta Lynn worked with him.

  • @Simon-ir1xj
    @Simon-ir1xj ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw them back in the late 90s when they were coming up and they turned up early, drank at the bar and played music with punters, they were both awesome.
    Maybe he changed...

  • @HappyHighwayman
    @HappyHighwayman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How do you confiscate electronic emails? Like they took them and didn't give them back?

  • @chrisc4831
    @chrisc4831 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Punched him 7 times in the right eye lol!Jack White a Gangster!

    • @thetruthchannel349
      @thetruthchannel349 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear things like that and its just completely unbelievable. If someone hit me in the eye more than once by the 3rd time my temper would have taken over & there is absolutely no telling how that would end. I would have probably ripped his arm off. Just sounds odd to me.

    • @chrisc4831
      @chrisc4831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thetruthchannel349I think if he got punched 7 times in the eye and even if there was no damage (very rare) he'd at least sue him

    • @thetruthchannel349
      @thetruthchannel349 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisc4831 *Ya agreed. I just cant see letting anyone hit me in the eye that many times without temporary insanity kicking in*

  • @rf-cattleprod6207
    @rf-cattleprod6207 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know what's interesting about the Nashville music scene?
    Nothing.

  • @EasyThere
    @EasyThere 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jack White reinvigorated Blues Rock...problem is he thinks he invented it. Thought he was pulling his music off Spotify?...guess he don't own it.

  • @PaintGuy
    @PaintGuy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m a big Jack White (music) fan. Though, he’s always come off as a bit of a D tbh. I hate that he brings politics to his concerts now too. I’ve been to a bunch of his shows and he always kills it so all is forgiven lol.

  • @Ottophil
    @Ottophil ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love jack.

  • @brianoneil9662
    @brianoneil9662 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Original". Jack White, to quote Inigo Montoya-"I don't think that means what you think it means." Unless original means ripping off Joe Jackson's "Is She Really Going Out With Him?" for the intro of "Steady As She Goes" Jack White is the Tarantino of music. Derivative and bland but somehow critically praised and his own biggest fan.

  • @meursault7030
    @meursault7030 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always find it funny when average, middle-of-the-road rock frontmen claim other people are ripping them off.
    What exactly did you do diffeerently to everyone else that they're ripping off?
    Fuck-all!

  • @stephenseed5015
    @stephenseed5015 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you don't like Jack white, I don't care for you.

  • @knickd1979
    @knickd1979 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jack is cooler than you, period

  • @galactusholmes
    @galactusholmes ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love JW's music. But if you let a little, thin, pale dude like him throw you to the ground and hit you 7 times (!!!!) in a row, in the same spot no less, you probably shouldn't be beefing with anyone. That's just weak sauce.

  • @ewenjaja5963
    @ewenjaja5963 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Underrated artist! Fan of his work. Unique and he got his own style.

  • @josephscarpelli2152
    @josephscarpelli2152 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jack wants all the smoke

  • @Jagstang1981
    @Jagstang1981 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Is it me or do some of these photos make him look like a younger version of Johnny Depp?

  • @garthkite
    @garthkite ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The black keys brothers album is a masterpiece, Jack white who there's no denying is great didn't make anything as good for me.

  • @Jamestele1
    @Jamestele1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a huge fan of Jack White's, from the White Stripes to Van Lear Rose (Lorreta Lynn's big comeback from early 2000s) and The Raconteurs, etc. Anyone that diversly talented is going to have some kind of issues. It's par for the course. Hell, I have major issues, and I'm not that talented or famous!

  • @johnybaltimore3687
    @johnybaltimore3687 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This brilliant, life--changing, relevant and essential video work. The world owes you a debt of gratitude. Could you please do one of these exposes on Al Jolson?

    • @Dark_Harmony
      @Dark_Harmony ปีที่แล้ว

      I can totally feel the sarcasm in this.

  • @charlielucky4201
    @charlielucky4201 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Seems more like a video about rock stars Jack White doesn't like than the title suggests.

  • @patricianixon7674
    @patricianixon7674 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It makes me think of the song by The Black Crowes
    Jealous again

  • @janibeg3247
    @janibeg3247 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wives can be very stubborn and it is a well known axiom that ex-husbands are not hero's to ex-wives.