Analogue Production (33 1/3) vs. Analogue Production (45 RPM)

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    It was in 1992 that Acoustic Sounds owner Chad Kassem reissued his first Analogue Productions title, Virgil Thompson's The Plow That Broke The Plains, originally on Vanguard. Analogue Productions began as a vehicle for Kassem to license his favorite all-time recordings and reissue them as remastered and as a superior version to the original release. Since its inception AP has reissued hundreds of titles, ranging from classical to folk, pop, rock, blues and jazz. Included in the many highlights of Analogue Productions' history are the Fantasy 45 Jazz Reissues, the Blue Note Reissues, and premium box sets of the music of such legendary acts as The Doors, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Nat "King" Cole and Norah Jones. True to its name, Analogue Productions works with the original analog master tapes - more than any other reissue label! The result is superior sound - richer, warmer and more lifelike, than digital.
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  • @liammolyneuxmusic
    @liammolyneuxmusic ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Regarding Analogue Productions I think both variants have value.
    I love both.
    I also think it depends what version you hear first.
    If you play 45 first your not going back to 33 in my opinion
    For instance I love Time Out on a single side ,incredible.
    The one exception is something like RW box set.
    I own the renowned 33 which is across 2 records.Having it over 4 records on 45 is overkill in my opinion especially already owning 33.
    45 rpm feels special when you play.
    Wow Jeff Beck on 45 is a joy to behold.
    Great topic Michael,see you in 5 minutes 😂

  • @rongreen1538
    @rongreen1538 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I’m definitely in the 33 camp, even though I acknowledge that 45 usually sounds better. For me the constant change of record disturbs the flow of the music. With 33, put the record on and sit back, relax and enjoy 20 minutes of pleasure. Thank you as always for taking the time to make this video.

  • @chrisl5156
    @chrisl5156 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I am firmly in the 33 1/3 camp, not for the convenience but because it seems to me that about 20 minutes of music listening at one time is the perfect amount. The 45's just seem disjointed, and not much benefit sonically in going to the 45 (and sometimes NO difference, e.g. Morrison Hotel). And finally, the 45's take up twice as much space in my storage area. This is no small consideration. In any event, thank you Michael, I enjoy all of your videos and this is just my two cents.

  • @Daniel-hk3ru
    @Daniel-hk3ru ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Analog Productions continue to be one of the highest-quality vinyl record production plants, and to have the 33 1/3 or the 45 RPM in your collection is most welcome. In critical listening situations, I must say the 45 RPM is a real treat.

  • @jeffbeamer9882
    @jeffbeamer9882 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have to laugh at myself and my vinyl collecting brothers at how much time and energy we devote to thinking about these questions and debating back and forth. But I can't help it! And I do love it so! Thanks again my find German friend for keeping the conversation going. :-)

  • @false_binary
    @false_binary ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Brubeck example sums it up...I have heard both and it is a quality vs convenience choice for sure. Great vid!

  • @joshd2597
    @joshd2597 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now I can get behind these comparisons! Not everyone can afford OGs.. this type of video is for everyone!

  • @TBNTX
    @TBNTX หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dave Brubeck's "Time Out" is a true classical LP. I love it and I play it often.

  • @The_Music_Sanctuary
    @The_Music_Sanctuary ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and very informative as usual, danke Michael, cheers..✌

  • @michaelschultz1125
    @michaelschultz1125 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always fall on the side of the best possible sound. Therefore, I go with the 45 rpm versions (if available). I don't mind changing album sides more frequently in exchange for the sounding version.

  • @Chrisbyrne09
    @Chrisbyrne09 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Michael,
    greetings from an ex-british soldier now living in Sauerland! I personally think that on the whole th 45 versions sound better than the 33 1/3, but not always enough to warrant the higher cost. By the way, I love your store! I've just bought my first record (The wonderful sounds of quality recordings) and I:m loving the customer experience. Keep it up! By the way, I've just bought a "normal" LP for €23,99 (Blue Note Classic Vinyl Series - Kenny Burrell Midnight Blue), and it sounds fantastic! Obviously it is possible to produce fantastic sounding records at normal prices.

  • @rogernetzer1054
    @rogernetzer1054 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your are a great teacher.

  • @styles8007
    @styles8007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I recently received Analog Production, 'Countdown to Ecstasy' by Steely Dan 45rpm. This is simply the best version I have ever heard. No pops, no cracks simply perfect. Thank you for having that presentation for that album. Again, simply the best. Cheers

  • @quikspecv4d
    @quikspecv4d ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I almost always go with the 45. On some occasions I will pick the 33. Usually if it’s a “party” album. I don’t want to stop a party anymore than needed.

    • @DrOz-007
      @DrOz-007 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jukebox full of 7" singles? 😂

  • @washline
    @washline ปีที่แล้ว +7

    45 RPM sounds better than 33 in nearly every instance I've experienced. My problem with Analogue Productions is that they sell the 33 first and then press the 45 later. So I buy the 33 not knowing what will come later and I can't really justify spending the money on both or finding the shelf space.

  • @davidpetersen7091
    @davidpetersen7091 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A bowl of fresh bowl of pipe tobacco...coffee...and you video. Great way to start an afternoon in upstate New York.
    Mr. Pete--------->
    aging hippie

    • @dank.6942
      @dank.6942 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds fantastic

  • @pabelkabel8865
    @pabelkabel8865 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have 33 Kind of Blue for one reason , it’s because the record is short anyway so I don’t want stay the whole time next to my turntable

  • @lps4eloise779
    @lps4eloise779 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I agree with you about 33 and 45 flow. With that said, always exceptions to the rule like The Wall or DSOTM. I can’t image either at 45 bc of the flow. I personally like KOB as a 33 bc of how it flows, I like to get lost and that’s easier at 33 on that one.

    • @audiophileman7047
      @audiophileman7047 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pink Floyd is my favorite band, and I'm deeply into the concept nature of their albums. If I can get the ultimate sound on 45, I would buy The Wall, DSOTM, and WYWH on 45 rpm. I have all of those albums in excellent multiple 33 vinyl versions and could listen to them when I want the 33 listening experience. Can you imagine what sounds and effects you could hear that you never heard before on the 45 rpm versions? That thought is exciting to me.

    • @kiiiiiiingd
      @kiiiiiiingd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what is KOB?

    • @lps4eloise779
      @lps4eloise779 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      KOB = Kind of Blue - Miles Davis@@kiiiiiiingd

  • @erikleenhouts834
    @erikleenhouts834 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting 👍. Thx!

  • @RichTeer
    @RichTeer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Count me in the 45-RPM camp, given the choice. The Royal Ballet was also available as 9(!) single-sided 45-RPM records on Clarity vinyl from Classic Records years ago.
    I agree with Michael's take on the "artist's intent" idea, the exception being when whole sides are obviously intended to be listened to uninterrupted (e.g., Tubular Bells (also 50 years now!) and DSOTM).

  • @novisnick6928
    @novisnick6928 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To me, 45 rpm is the best sounding and well worth the additional cost if its an LP that I really enjoy. Otherwise the 33 1/3 rpm is a very good value for my other not as important LPs. Thanks for all you do and share Michael.

    • @audiophileman7047
      @audiophileman7047 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said. I completely agree. 👍👍👍

  • @christopher.cordova
    @christopher.cordova ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Michael,
    The thing is, many 33s can sound just as good as the double 45s. For example, I chose to replace my entire Doors AP 45 catalogue for the 33 DCC pressings. Not only do I prefer the flow offered by the 33, the mastering of the dcc pressings, to my ears, are superior to the AP. Instead of investing in double 45s, I would prefer that time and money be invested into mastering the definitive pressing at 33. Cheers!

  • @near-zero321
    @near-zero321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I fully agree with your take on 'artist intent'. There's no way for us to know what the artist intended, and whether a 33 1/3 wasn't itself a compromise on intent. I personally don't think it should be part of the conversation when considering 33 1/3 or 45, but all other points are a factor for me. I prefer 45s in general, but not for all albums, as others have said.
    Great episode, Michael. Appreciate your contributions and very articulate, well-reasoned rationale for your conclusions. You're a great ambassador for this hobby.

  • @dank.6942
    @dank.6942 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I certainly do appreciate the 45s and the sound, I own a few, Rumours, Jeff Beck, etc... but as a rule...If the 33 is done like a Tone Poet or an Analogue Prods., 9 times out of 10, the cost and the hassle, with "only" one song per side of a 45, makes the 33 more desirable to me. The storage space required in my house, is an issue too. Imagine a genuine double album, so then on 45s it becomes 4 discs. No thanks. I don't need the best copy ever created, rather I want the best version that is not a hassle. I want a clean, click-free version, and brand new, well-done 33s are plenty satisfactory to me.

  • @bonesjackson81
    @bonesjackson81 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sometimes loving vinyl provides it own source of punishment. So so many variables with setups and as many with different pressings. It completely becomes an ear drug chasing after the sound that pleases you most. It's very fun but sometimes you think your all set and a new pressing comes along and it's back to the do I chase again or stand pat? I've found i love 45rpm. I don't mind the extra effort 45rpm brings along with it. So I've made this rule, if its an artist I love and a 45rpm is available for reasonable prices I go for it. Have to have rules or I'd go crazy. Like if its a whiskey night no mofi, quiex or any other specialty pressings! Ha

  • @audiophileman7047
    @audiophileman7047 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unless I am buying a new artist's music (first release), I rarely buy my records from anyone other than Acoustic Sounds. AP/QRP is pressing the best reissues available today. I know you are speaking about the difference between AP/QRP 45's and AP/QRP 33's for classic albums recorded on magnetic tape. I largely agree with your assessment, but it is wrong to say that 45 rpm beats 33 rpm in general. I challenge anyone reading this post to listen to Direct To Disc (D2D) recordings on 33 rpm and tell me it doesn't sound better than standard cut 45 rpm. The D2D 33 beats 45 rpm from magnetic tape hands down; I have never heard anything better on the sound level. It is breathtaking just stunning. Nippon Columbia released the first commercial D2D vinyl record in the late '60's, but in recent times QRP has pressed some blues 33's, and other labels such as Berliner Meister Platten have pressed other genres of music on D2D vinyl. Granted, you can't buy bands like Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, etc. on D2D, but what you can buy is very much worth having for the ultimate audiophile experience. My D2D vinyl 33's are some of my most treasured records, and I just love hearing them. 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

  • @DuganSimpson
    @DuganSimpson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was not aware of the repeat of side 1 as the last side in the box set for The Royal Ballet Gala Performances. (I have it on backorder at the moment.) That is a classy move by AP!

  • @ginntonic123
    @ginntonic123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video Michael, very objective analysis. Sorry for going out off topic but wanted to kindly request you an updated video and analysis of the Alva Noto Sakamoto vinyl series

    • @ginntonic123
      @ginntonic123 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heard the sad news about the passing of R . Sakamoto

  • @H.D.O.M.
    @H.D.O.M. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the CS 8192-45 Clarity SV-P II 45 RPM Series is so expensive but i miss a mono 45 rpm

  • @johntorma1224
    @johntorma1224 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm recording all my 45 lps to cassette so I can playback all in one listening session without getting up, Very satisfied.

  • @Jeremy-yf2jd
    @Jeremy-yf2jd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Michael - thank you. Two other reissue labels for 33 1/3 vs 45 can be Classic Records - I always prefer their 45's - and Music Matters (though I've read there was a technology change(s) some claim they hear, preferring 33 1/3) I do not own any... yet😅

  • @fernandozaldivar7581
    @fernandozaldivar7581 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for your excellent analysis Michael. On the discussion about the flow and continuity of an album, there are some titles which are simply not suitable for the 45 RPM treatment. A clear example of this is Marvin Gaye's OneStep of What's Going On, where one song fades into another. MoFi simply butchered side A when they decided to split it in two sides.

  • @oleplanthafer7034
    @oleplanthafer7034 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember to set your pick-up and tonearm specifically for 7", preferable according to Stevenson's 7" alignment. Probably the biggest boost you can get for the format, taking the sound to another level over 33rpm/12". 😃

  • @hooville9059
    @hooville9059 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1st as the Groove gets closer to the spindle the angle of the stylus changes within the Groove, that's why its set up as an average to reduce distortion as the 45 RPM is further away and also the information is greater due to the increased space. 2nd Classic Records single sided cuts suffered record dishing, no flat vinyl after time and why its no longer done, Classic did a lot of trial and error to sell the same music over and over.(AP also) The 33 RPM was the standard 20 minutes per side and Artists followed that measurement of time to design the music flow, that's why there is some trouble with converting a 33 RPM to a 45 RPM getting the proper flow the artist intended.

  • @JBLClassic
    @JBLClassic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Somethimes I've fine with 45rpm albums, when I want to listen to a lot of different stuff, and still feel like I didn't quit on a record. I can play 1/4 of the album and feel satisfied, then move on.

    • @jimmymarshall3529
      @jimmymarshall3529 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too bad you have to pay for 4/4 of it. 🪠🪠

    • @JBLClassic
      @JBLClassic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimmymarshall3529 I didn’t say I only listen to 1/4 of the total album, period.

  • @retromusings
    @retromusings ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not an audiophile. Found this very intereting. Thanks.

  • @Wreckords-Marcel
    @Wreckords-Marcel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I prefer a well mastered/pressed 33. Not because of convenience, but because 20 minutes is the perfect listening time to listen to a record. It’s like a brief intermission at a show. The Rastaman Bob Marley UHQR (along with AP standard releases) proved to me that 45RPM is not needed.

  • @haydenwalton2766
    @haydenwalton2766 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    33 all the way.
    * my system is good - but not that good
    * I can buy way more records
    * getting up every 20 minutes to change the bloody thing is short enough !

  • @tiborosz1825
    @tiborosz1825 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit..you got albums I dig! SRV, Skynyrd!

  • @dgross2009
    @dgross2009 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Hard to comment because you covered it all.
    I have many 45's including a lot of 7" discs. There is one lp in particular that is better as a 45 and that is Dire Straits "Money for Nothing". The original 33 had to be cut down to fit on an lp since it was promoted as a cd release originally and therefore too long to fit on an lp. The 45 has the original cd length.

  • @sammygoulbourne439
    @sammygoulbourne439 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find the 45’s are a little more open than the 33’s but when you’re talking Analogue Productions, I don’t think the differences are huge. I respect that some people say they hear big differences between the 2 - I hear some improvement with a 45 but I just don’t think it’s a big enough difference.
    I like ‘em both but if available, I would tend to lean towards the 45rpm.

    • @mikechivy
      @mikechivy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. In another comment I mentioned having the 33 and 45 of Getz/Gilberto from AP. I like to think I have a pretty solid ear, but I really cant tell much of a difference. I have the 33 of Patsy Cline by them as well, and I've considered the 45, but I have a feeling its not any better and it's way more work.

  • @johnc5134
    @johnc5134 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok So I agree on your comment that the artist probably didn’t intend to on a specific RPM. I think one possible exception is What’s Going On, where the MOFI 45 breaks up the continuous flow which seems to be intended for 33RPM.

  • @sefarba
    @sefarba ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is why I still buy some maxis, even giving just 1 track the luxury treatment or having an entire side to its own is delicious. In my experience, it brings a sense of realism rarely achievable under the 33 1/3 constraints. I think when people say "this is what the artist intended" in reality they usually just mean "this is the original medium (the "proper one") in which it was released, therefore, how it was meant to be presented" and it’s just not true necessarily.

  • @maxhirsch7035
    @maxhirsch7035 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm generally in the 45 rpm camp. Beyond that, as the listener, who bought the recording, and listens with my ears, I'm more concerned with how I want to hear the music than the musicians want me to hear it. If we agree on that, great; if not, I expect that their feelings shouldn't be hurt! In regards to having to get up more often to change sides, a bit more daily movement in my life never hurts, and so that's a non-issue for me. And in re. to the cost issue- If I am more mixed on a recording's attraction to me, I'll save paying top dollar and get the 33 1/3 if it's already a very good pressing/presentation of the music. Beyond all that, unless I'm comparing competing pressings/mixes/formats of a recording, I don't do critical listening- only more or less attentive listening! ; )

  • @paulaidenmusic
    @paulaidenmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a feeling you liked 45rpm records, just a hunch…. 🤭
    I have Maiden Voyage AP45 and awaiting my first ever Music Matters which is a 45rpm copy of Sonny Rollins “Newk’s Time”, can’t wait!

  • @rastheike4329
    @rastheike4329 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A little love.
    A high - end system.
    Whether 33 or 45rpm.
    Both meet a delightful pleasure.
    But of even more alluring special appeal is the music itself.
    ❤Heike
    Where does high end begin? 😜
    And when does the strong feeling of love begin? 😔

  • @kyles7087
    @kyles7087 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just recently purchased the Roger Waters, as you know, and as much as I adore this set, I do agree with others about the flow, at least in this case.. I would not go as far as saying that the 33rpm is “how the artist intended” (although there are for sure many concept albums designed around this format). That said, I am glad that we have the option to chose either speeds, and we have killer sounding pressings (especially from Analogue Productions) on both!

    • @audiophileman7047
      @audiophileman7047 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This begs the question. Would you own a 45 rpm version pressed by AP/QRP of Pink Floyd DSOTM if it was available or would the break-up of the format put you off? I would buy it in a heartbeat, because I own it in some really great sounding 33 vinyl albums. The lure of the 45 version is to hear a song like Money in the very best sound I've ever heard it. If I want to hear the original flow, I can always play one of my 33's.

    • @kyles7087
      @kyles7087 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@audiophileman7047 I feel exactly the same. If AP released DSOTM, it’s a no brainer for me. I only have one pressing coming my way (UK A-3, B-3), and I would love a UHQR copy to accompany it!

    • @audiophileman7047
      @audiophileman7047 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kyles7087 I'm sure that you will love your UK A-3/B-3. 👍👍👍

  • @mwalker2496
    @mwalker2496 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the 45rpm but yes, when i want to relax the 33rpm or the Analog Productions or MoFi SACDs sound amazing and are really convenient...
    I've heard SACD sales are increasing again? Is this because of the new AP and MoFi SACD releases???

  • @mikechivy
    @mikechivy ปีที่แล้ว

    I think we all love 45 RPM because we know we are getting the best possible version, whether we can truly hear it or not. I have both the 33 and 45 rpm of Getz/Gilberto from Analogue Productions. I play it on a Rega P10 so my TT is no slouch. I find it really hard to hear the difference. Not sure if that's a testament to how good AP did the 33, or that you can only squeeze so much out of a recording when its done so well to begin with.
    With that being said, I have the 33 and 45 of Fleetwood Mac Rumours, both cut by Kevin Gray and pressed at RTI, and the 45 blows the 33 out of the water.

  • @VIDSTORAGE
    @VIDSTORAGE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe the extra space on 45 rpm albums can be used in the future for added Bonus Tracks ..

  • @seno2349
    @seno2349 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very subjective as well is the opinion/fairy tale “the better your system, the bigger the difference”. Having been involved in professional testing of hi-fi gear for years, I can confirm that, if the pressing is better, the difference can easily be told, even if one uses quite inexpensive headphones. The same goes for speakers - what you would need to use here are neutral sounding ones, and there should not be any issue comparing two differing versions (and applying the “one by one Chad method” ;) ).

  • @oscar542241
    @oscar542241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 33rpm of the sky is crying by analogue productions is amazing idc what anyone says

  • @papabear1417
    @papabear1417 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've 45rpm 12 inch Remasters of Underworld Dark & long and Juanita.
    They sound 👌
    Could they be on one side at 33rpm?
    Probably. But hey, life is short. Enjoy the moment.

  • @danmartinez5502
    @danmartinez5502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The flow of the music can be disturbed in 45 rpm . Depends on the artists
    Santana,Tangerine Dream, Yes, Moody Blues, War of the Worlds,Pink Floyd,ELP,
    Just saying and many Jazz albums and any Stanley Turrentine lp.

  • @MackeyWilliams
    @MackeyWilliams ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just received the 45rpm version of Jeff Beck's Blow by Blow that Chad and his Acoustic Sounds team produced. It sounds incredible. Was it worth the extra money for the 45rpm format? Debatable. Unfortunately, I didn't have a choice between the 45 and 33 und 1/3rd because the latter is on back order. Same with Wired.

  • @leon9021
    @leon9021 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Problem is comparisons are rarely fair. In most cases they are mastered differently, I believe thats the case for all the examples here too.
    One of few good comparisons is the Fleetwood Mac Rumours cuts by Kevin and Hoffman, even then the 45 is cut louder but at least thats the only difference in mastering.

    • @leon9021
      @leon9021 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GiancarloBenzina Cutting is a form of mastering you could say but yes you can also adjust before cutting. In most cases, even with Grundmans examples of these records he made different moves for each version. In terms of Time Out you could also say its a different mix entirely since I believe this was done live while cutting.
      Thats why theres an issue with most comparisons, you are not listening to the different speeds alone.
      When you single out the speed as the only difference you will have a much harder time hearing a difference.

  • @geoffnelson4777
    @geoffnelson4777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have three versions of TIME OUT on LP...(1) Orig. mono pressing Columbia CL1397...(2) Columbia Jazz Masterpieces stereo CJ 40585 Digitally remastered directly from the original analog tapes. Digital remix by Larry Keyes (who I believe was one of the engineers at those sessions) and mastered by Vlado Meller at CBS in NY...(3) Jazz Wax Records JW 4525 stereo, 180 gram, limited edition, high-definition premium virgin vinyl pressing, super fidelity (so states the hype sticker) Direct metal Mastering DMM original George Neumann cutting system. Re: Jazz Wax version, the cover art reproduction literally looks like someone from their art dept, perhaps, tried to copy it - and failed miserably. Also, there is no mention of Columbia nor who mastered it or any facts at all on the jacket. Anyone out there familiar with Jazz Wax?

  • @rc2257
    @rc2257 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I respectfully I disagree with your disagreement with the argument that the artist intended their music to be heard on a two-sided record.
    I'm talking about records made before the early or mid 1980s, when there was no CD option. People either bought recordings as 2-sided 33rpm LPs or cassette tapes, which also have two sides.
    You are right that some artists made records that were just collections of songs. For these records, it doesn't matter whether the songs are spread out over two sides or four sides or a single CD.
    But SOME artists planned very purposefully which songs would go on each side, and the order of songs. Many of the records in your collection, records you've done videos about. The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Yes, and many other great artists made records where each side has its own identity. You listen to Side 1 of Abbey Road first; there are the songs in a particular order, and when you get to the end of Side 1 it's like you're at the end of the first movement of a great symphony. Then you flip the record and listen to the second movement.
    Regarding sound quality vs. convenience, I go back and forth. I have the 33 and 45 Time Out, but for other AP/QRP releases, I have only one or the other. Yes, the 45 sounds better, and sometimes when I listen, that's all I care about (besides of course the music itself!). But as you said, the 33's pressed by QRP sound EXCELLENT. I have at least 40 of the RCA Living Stereo classical titles that appear on Analogue Productions, and most of the ones I have are 33. They sound luscious and beautiful and thrilling. For longer classical pieces, like symphonies, it is a bit disruptive to get up every 8 minutes and flip the record or change the disc, which takes me out of the zone. Since the 33rpm versions are SO GREAT, I am happy to own them. And also because they cost US$40 instead of US$60 for the 45s, I can own many more of them.
    I have the Kind of Blue UHQR on 33 and I absolutely love it. I'm sure the 45 sounds even better, based on your review and others. But I am so thrilled with the 33, and I've already spend around US$400 on various other pressings and CD versions of Kind of Blue. At some point, I have to draw the line and save my money for other UHQRs or other Acoustic Sounds or Tone Poet series records.
    Thank you for another great video!

    • @haydenwalton2766
      @haydenwalton2766 ปีที่แล้ว

      bang on about the planning of many old records ron - 2 x 20 min

    • @andysmusicden
      @andysmusicden 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spot on

  • @trupax2210
    @trupax2210 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me it has to be 33 1/3. In the end 45 RPM is a single and I don’t purchase singles unless absolute necessary.

  • @91pastor
    @91pastor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another disadvantage of a single LP being spread over two LPs, is that they take up a lot more space. Not a good thing if you are running out of space.

  • @anonymex22
    @anonymex22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi
    Asking here because don't know where to ask
    I make new tape recording from dsd512 sources
    i would like to know a which level do i must set the bias of the tape recorder of the sweep test signal?
    thanks in advance,
    have a good day,
    regds,

  • @adamhunt4462
    @adamhunt4462 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I prefer the 33 of Folk Singer. The 45 is too dynamic in my opinion. It sounds shouty on my system. However the 45 of Time Out sounds incredible. I also like the 33 but you can really tell the difference with that one.

    • @MikeVideos327
      @MikeVideos327 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Folk singer is the most problematic record in my collection.
      I have the 45 and it is the only 45 I’m disappointed in. Its amazing, but the volume has to be CRANKED to have it sound like muddy isn’t whispering

    • @adamhunt4462
      @adamhunt4462 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @MikeVideos327 I had the same experience. It's too quiet, then it's too loud. I don't have that issue at all on the 33. Plus I don't have to flip it every 5 minutes.

  • @FRCVIDS
    @FRCVIDS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've always wondered why some 45s are $60 and some are $35.

  • @toddbromgard5211
    @toddbromgard5211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m lazy. I like 33.33

    • @audiophileman7047
      @audiophileman7047 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't know if you're a fan of The Doors. I used to be lazy about 45 rpm too until I heard The Doors LA Woman AP/QRP 45 rpm. It is just stunning and well worth the extra effort to play a 45 rpm vinyl record.

  • @a.vonende7885
    @a.vonende7885 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mofi just announced on every street 45rpm mmmmm.......

  • @johnnymics
    @johnnymics ปีที่แล้ว

    First and foremost, I think it depends on your system. If you don't have a really good system, then you probably won't hear/notice the differences.

  • @classicrock7890
    @classicrock7890 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not that keen on albums were there is only one track per side with the 45 rpm version. Usually these albums ae fairly short in any case. Also there are albums were tracks blend into one another so 45 rpm interrupts the flow too much. Eldorado and Abraxas come to mind. 45 rpm usually sounds better but there is a balance to be struck here. If I don't know the album well or don't own a standard 33 rpm I will go for the single disc version.

  • @paulspanbauer4125
    @paulspanbauer4125 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The name of your channel is 45 RPM Audiophile 😂

  • @greencraig8570
    @greencraig8570 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I kind of look down on people that choose CDs/files for convenience, but I do the same thing about 45s. It's just too much trouble to change the record all the time. I prefer 33s for the....convenience. Now, if the sound sucked on a 33 that'd be a different story.

    • @audiophileman7047
      @audiophileman7047 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I used to feel the same way about 45's being too much trouble during listening. I'm a big fan of The Doors. I put off buying The Doors AP/QRP 45 albums with Jim Morrison for a long time. Then someone convinced me to buy LA Woman, because the sound was just terrific and the best he had ever heard. I did it and the listening experience with that album on 45 rpm is worth the extra effort of playing a 45 rpm album. I'm now buying up all of the The Doors 45 rpm AP/QRP albums. I have four out of the six now and look forward to hearing the last two.

    • @greencraig8570
      @greencraig8570 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@audiophileman7047 As long as the record is AAA, I'm OK.

    • @audiophileman7047
      @audiophileman7047 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greencraig8570 I'm with you on AAA. 👍👍👍 That is what I prefer as well and will even buy it in an analogue era reissue before buying one that has digital elements like MoFi.

  • @nickboeske2711
    @nickboeske2711 ปีที่แล้ว

    Discord Link?

  • @Big-J-8579
    @Big-J-8579 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will rarely buy a 45. It is just to annoying. Does a 45 sound better, sure but the difference is very small. The inconvenience is very large. I have Brothers in arms on the 45 and 33 and I only listen to the 33 but most often the SACD.

  • @Schueyjr
    @Schueyjr ปีที่แล้ว

    Whch Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus would you recommend? Analogue Productions 33 or 45 RPM?

    • @Michael45RPM
      @Michael45RPM  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the 45 ap Bill

    • @Schueyjr
      @Schueyjr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Michael45RPM Thanks, Mike. I just ordered the 45 RPM!

  • @tiborosz1825
    @tiborosz1825 ปีที่แล้ว

    45 has more detail and plays faster thus more details. Obviously 33 s have more songs , less deadwax and inner groove distortion no matter how good your stylus is.

  • @suffolkaudiophile
    @suffolkaudiophile ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That makes no sense, that you think that the artists didn't plan it that way... If you're talking about vintage records, Dark Side of The Moon for example... That would never work on 45rpm.. What I'm saying, is it totally depends on the record.

  • @91pastor
    @91pastor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not a fan of 45rpm LPs, for me 45rpm just does something odd to the pace and rhythm of the music!

  • @Claus-CaptainPhoenixCorner
    @Claus-CaptainPhoenixCorner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting topic - I'm in the opposite camp, Michael.
    Yes 45 RPM (almost) always sounds better than 33 rpm. And if you are most interested in the sound quality of your records, it is natural to choose 45 rpm. And everyone is free to do this.
    But if the musical - rather than the technical - experience comes first, things are different (although it can be difficult to separate these two aspects).
    I disagree with the view that the fact that the tracks are also on 33 rpm are distributed over 2 record sides should mean that artists have not thought about the flow of the LP. It seems unlikely that the artist or producer simply distributed the tracks randomly on the record sides.
    Therefore, I believe that your argument that 33 rpm does not reflect an intended experience of an album's tracks does not hold.
    And there is probably a reason for e.g. Sgt. Pepper, TDSOTM, Wish You Were Here and similar continuous concept albums not released on 45 rpm.

  • @thesixthbeatle
    @thesixthbeatle ปีที่แล้ว

    How does it feel to be cast as a villain? Greed will get you there.

  • @papabear1417
    @papabear1417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oops. Humble pie time. They are at 33rpm. Apologies.

  • @audiotomb
    @audiotomb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There atr no absolutes. Look at a better mastered or pressed record - Music Matters Jazz anyone?
    There is a physics advantage to 45 frequency spectrum
    I would suggest getting familiar with the Steve Hoffman treaty on it
    Brubeck Time Out with Blue Rondo Ala Turk and the title track is just stunning on 45
    Many others- not as much

    • @audiophileman7047
      @audiophileman7047 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My Classic Records 33 version of Brubeck's Time Out sounds wonderful. I also have the AP/QRP 45 version of the same album, and it does sound a little better, but I'm never disappointed when I hear my Classic Records version, and I want to spend more time sipping my martini rather than flipping records over.

  • @middleman9183
    @middleman9183 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I will never buy an album on 45 rpm no matter how good it sounds. Too inconvenient. I don't trust that clear vinyl either.

  • @lenbester
    @lenbester ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's getting pretty embarrassing with how clearly these are no longer informational videos and purely advertising for your webstore... Very dissapointing.