Bought the Breville one yesterday along with the VST basket and a few other bits and pieces.. the difference it made to the shots from the BDB is unbelievable. And very cool to watch !
Very interesting video! I use a bottomless portafilter every day with my La Marzocco Línea mini. At the beginning I was getting channeling all over. However, over time I have been able to almost totally eliminate them. I am still working on my technic of preparing the puck for the extraction. There is no question that the bottomless portafilter has helped me improve my shots. Your video explanation was excellent! Thanks again and looking forward to seeing more of your video content. They have all been extremely informative. Good day or goodnight! Until the next video! Thanks again!
Thank you, loved the point about the"wet side" and surface tension and how liquids move, I knew it, but hadn't extended that knowledge to coffee extraction.
I prefer the bottomless mostly because I don't have any heat loss going into the portafilter. Although some coffees regardless of your technique you're going to have the occasional spray which means you're cleaning up something often a mirrored back surface. I don't recall ever having an issue getting coffee to go down into a espresso cup with a small exception of the occasional wormhole and spray. More often than not I'm putting a double into a single cup with a milk based drink like a latte or cappuccino.
Very good video, that's the first upgrade I made years ago, like you said it the only way you know how good your coffee extraction is..I started to use the dwt method which does work well, better than using a leveler..
I have bought a Krups Espresso Virtuoso. Is there any bottomless portafilter for this machine? The portafilter has a weird format and any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Hi, thanks for the video. I use a naked portafilter and stop my shot when I think it's finished rather than on time alone. I'm looking for some hints on picking the perfect moment to stop. I see the stripes fading but when exactly does blonding start? Thanks for any info
Great question. Run the Esprssso down the end he of the cup. So the colours float on the surface. You will see the blonde colour and then know when to stop. Also small micro bubbles will form
Question:-We've just purchased a Gaggia Classic Pro, I understand how to dial it in, and pull a shot, with the aid of scales and timer. However, when foaming the milk, do I need both the brew and steam button switched on, or just the steam button. I said the latter, but My darling other half says I should have the former...? HELP !
Check out some other yt vidoes for specifics, hers one that will help. th-cam.com/video/qgG3Uv0ebI8/w-d-xo.html🤙🏻 I won’t get into who is right or wrong. 😂😂
For my home set up (Elba2), I found I had a problem with clearance once I started using a scale to weigh the output, so I got a naked portafilter to give me more room, but once I had a naked portafilter and larger basket I found the consistency of my shots decreased, so then I had to get a distributor to help with that...the good news is that all that gear (and money) has helped my consistency.
Thank you for this fantastic video. Would love to see a follow up where you show different shots with the naked and discuss how to analyze flaws in your shots in more detail.
Sure we can do this. We discussed this, and we thought we should relate it back to specific technique issues? Like under filling? Too much pressure? Angle dose, is that what your thinking?
Great video with some nice detail in the commentary. Please get your editing person to sort the difference in levels between intro/outro music and your voice.
the inability of splitting shots is what's been putting me off from getting a naked handle.. Interestingly enough, I rarely see an espresso video where they split the shots on youtube, is it an exclusive ozzy thing? What size of cups does artisti use for capp / latte?
Great video! It made me understand why my extractions were a bit too quick with my spouted portafilter. I got my naked yesterday and we can definitely see when it starts dripping. This is truely fascinating. Will you make a video showing issues with the extraction and help us troubleshot them? That'd be very educational. Thanks, as always. I'm glad I discovered your channel. (My wallet a little bit less 😂)
😂 coffee burns holes in wallets with more and more gadgets. We have a few videos already on Esprssso and many more to come. Have a look thru our back catalogue and you will find some treasures!
I've thought about getting a naked PF but I'm not sure that "knowing" my shot is uneven or channelling will actually help me much. The logic goes, I use one and see uneven flow. So I then say to myself, "Hmmm I need to distribute my grinds a bit more evenly and try and tamp more level". Same fix applies to channelling. All good you say. But what if I just always assume that is going to happen and skip the naked PF and concentrate on doing the perfect prep instead? So I try to distribute the grinds as evenly as possible and try to tamp evenly, every time. It won't always work but I'm at least applying all the common "fixes" anyway. Also, I can usually tell when I channel, as the flow changes and I can taste it. I can also look at the puck to see channels... Seems like the cool looking pours is really the only reason to get one.
You need to buy one exactly to stop the spaying, because you will know what you are doing wrong. Spraying is NOT normal - it is a sign of YOUR mistake. When you solved the problems, you can switch back to the split one.
What is with the volume of that intro music?? Way too loud compared to the rest of the video. Huge shock to the system when adjusted to your low voice levels at the very start.
Bought the Breville one yesterday along with the VST basket and a few other bits and pieces.. the difference it made to the shots from the BDB is unbelievable. And very cool to watch !
Awesome to hear! It is very cool to watch a good extraction from a naked portafilter :)
What is a handle when you refer to a portafilter?
Handle and portafilter is the same thing.
Very interesting video! I use a bottomless portafilter every day with my La Marzocco Línea mini. At the beginning I was getting channeling all over. However, over time I have been able to almost totally eliminate them.
I am still working on my technic of preparing the puck for the extraction. There is no question that the bottomless portafilter has helped me improve my shots.
Your video explanation was excellent!
Thanks again and looking forward to seeing more of your video content. They have all been extremely informative.
Good day or goodnight!
Until the next video!
Thanks again!
Thanks for the encouragement! We appreciate it. More to come soon!! 😂
Thank you, loved the point about the"wet side" and surface tension and how liquids move, I knew it, but hadn't extended that knowledge to coffee extraction.
Yes, so many people think the issue is them tamping wrong when it is really the level of the machine or the wet path it will follow
I prefer the bottomless mostly because I don't have any heat loss going into the portafilter. Although some coffees regardless of your technique you're going to have the occasional spray which means you're cleaning up something often a mirrored back surface. I don't recall ever having an issue getting coffee to go down into a espresso cup with a small exception of the occasional wormhole and spray. More often than not I'm putting a double into a single cup with a milk based drink like a latte or cappuccino.
Thank you for your feedback, yes a little clean up can be needed.
Any suggestion on how to fix the low pressure during extraction with my new bottomless portafilter? Thank you!
Low pressure at the start? Middle ? End?
Buying a gaggia classic soon and was already planning on getting a bottomless filter for the learning fact
Great! That will really help you progress quickly 👍🏻
I did that with my Gaggia and learned a lot. Made great espresso. I loved that Gaggia. Had it 6 months then upgraded.
Very good video, that's the first upgrade I made years ago, like you said it the only way you know how good your coffee extraction is..I started to use the dwt method which does work well, better than using a leveler..
Sure. These are becoming more popular now
Help! Trued naked baskrt for the first time, but I can't seem to build pressure. It onky goes uo to 4 bar. What should I do?
Finer grind and higher dose.
When using a bottomless one, is there any benefit to the taste or amount of crema you extract? I heard the bottomless ones create more crema.
Makes a big difference in taste, crema and thickness of coffee
I have bought a Krups Espresso Virtuoso. Is there any bottomless portafilter for this machine? The portafilter has a weird format and any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Hi. I am not sure sorry. Maybe get on the coffee snobs website and see if there is a thread. Or get the grinder out and cut up the single basket. 👍🏻
Can you use bottomless filter with automatic tamper?
Where would you recommend buying one from in Australia?
From us!!! In our online store
Hi, thanks for the video. I use a naked portafilter and stop my shot when I think it's finished rather than on time alone. I'm looking for some hints on picking the perfect moment to stop. I see the stripes fading but when exactly does blonding start? Thanks for any info
Great question. Run the Esprssso down the end he of the cup. So the colours float on the surface. You will see the blonde colour and then know when to stop. Also small micro bubbles will form
Question:-We've just purchased a Gaggia Classic Pro, I understand how to dial it in, and pull a shot, with the aid of scales and timer. However, when foaming the milk, do I need both the brew and steam button switched on, or just the steam button. I said the latter, but My darling other half says I should have the former...? HELP !
Check out some other yt vidoes for specifics, hers one that will help. th-cam.com/video/qgG3Uv0ebI8/w-d-xo.html🤙🏻 I won’t get into who is right or wrong. 😂😂
For my home set up (Elba2), I found I had a problem with clearance once I started using a scale to weigh the output, so I got a naked portafilter to give me more room, but once I had a naked portafilter and larger basket I found the consistency of my shots decreased, so then I had to get a distributor to help with that...the good news is that all that gear (and money) has helped my consistency.
So good to hear you have progressed. There is certainly a process to get a great coffee. Keep it up!
Thank you for this fantastic video. Would love to see a follow up where you show different shots with the naked and discuss how to analyze flaws in your shots in more detail.
Sure we can do this. We discussed this, and we thought we should relate it back to specific technique issues? Like under filling? Too much pressure? Angle dose, is that what your thinking?
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
Thank you for the reply. Yes. That would be wonderful and would help a lot of newcomers, such as myself.
Great video with some nice detail in the commentary. Please get your editing person to sort the difference in levels between intro/outro music and your voice.
Would this la marzocco bottomless handle fit the quick mill rubino?
Yes it will, we do have a full range of timber handles and bottomless portafilters on our website you can mix and match if you like. Cheers luke
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters thanks, would do
the inability of splitting shots is what's been putting me off from getting a naked handle.. Interestingly enough, I rarely see an espresso video where they split the shots on youtube, is it an exclusive ozzy thing? What size of cups does artisti use for capp / latte?
Yes in Oz we do a lot of ristretto shots. So 22.5 g in the basket and 22.5 out I the cup for a small 9oz latte or a 8oz cappuccino Cup
Great video! It made me understand why my extractions were a bit too quick with my spouted portafilter. I got my naked yesterday and we can definitely see when it starts dripping. This is truely fascinating. Will you make a video showing issues with the extraction and help us troubleshot them? That'd be very educational. Thanks, as always. I'm glad I discovered your channel. (My wallet a little bit less 😂)
😂 coffee burns holes in wallets with more and more gadgets. We have a few videos already on Esprssso and many more to come. Have a look thru our back catalogue and you will find some treasures!
I've thought about getting a naked PF but I'm not sure that "knowing" my shot is uneven or channelling will actually help me much. The logic goes, I use one and see uneven flow. So I then say to myself, "Hmmm I need to distribute my grinds a bit more evenly and try and tamp more level". Same fix applies to channelling. All good you say. But what if I just always assume that is going to happen and skip the naked PF and concentrate on doing the perfect prep instead? So I try to distribute the grinds as evenly as possible and try to tamp evenly, every time. It won't always work but I'm at least applying all the common "fixes" anyway. Also, I can usually tell when I channel, as the flow changes and I can taste it. I can also look at the puck to see channels... Seems like the cool looking pours is really the only reason to get one.
Interesting logic, yes as long as you can assess what’s happening and also have this understanding then you can apply your logic🤙🏻
Got one and wouldn’t be without it! 😍
So good to hear!
Just tried to use my new bottomless portafilter. It just sprayed everywhere!🤦♂️
Let us know how you get on fixing that issue ☕️
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters I’ve come to the conclusion I need a better grinder!🤦♂️
You need a bigger coffee machine
Always need a bigger machine! 🤙🏻
Why buy one? Messier, screw up your measurements, get more confused about timing and shots, get sprayed with coffee.
You need to buy one exactly to stop the spaying, because you will know what you are doing wrong.
Spraying is NOT normal - it is a sign of YOUR mistake.
When you solved the problems, you can switch back to the split one.
What is with the volume of that intro music?? Way too loud compared to the rest of the video. Huge shock to the system when adjusted to your low voice levels at the very start.
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I needed some violin music to go along with reading your comment...
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I had issue with my 7g IMS basket. coffee is spraying out in all directions.