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Dummies who say “wHeNs ThE LasT tIme u NeeDeD It? Cool when’s the last time you needed your gun in self defense? 99% of gun owners will never need their gun in self defense.
Many non Canuckistanis dont know this, but assault acorns come apart into two pieces. if you send them by mail from the states, in two seperate pieces as different packages, its not technically illegal, and you can re assemble them on the other side i also heard there was some crazy french rednecks deep in the woods of northern quebec way off the grid who are growing THEIR OWN!!!!
ok to be fair the suspect was seen online with a suppressed gun (which he threatened woman with) so maybe dispatch told him that and maybe hes never heard what a suppressed gun sounds like except for the movies possible but unlikely
I briefly had a doctor that had been practicing medicine for over forty years. And I firmly believe that once he earned his title, he never learned another thing.
@RazorStormInc dude wants to be jumpy alright okay whatever. U do u booboo. But when u start hollering your hit....you need to seek help from that trama
My bedside gun has a light, but my carry gun has irons and no light. Not for any reason, that’s just how it worked out. I do carry a pocket full of acorns though.
but bruh... youve never had to use the weapon light so why even have it.... the same way youve never had to use your carry gun so why even have it.... the same way youve never had to use a tourniquet so why even have one.... the same way youve never had to use first aid skills so why even learn them.... yeah its time for the retirement home for that dude
When I heard Ken ask when the last time you needed the light my immediate thought was that the majority of people haven't needed to use their guns in self defense. Its better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
This is literally exactly the rule I live by. It’s why my backpacks and such have been much heavier than most. I want to have everything I would likely need for the day on me in case I need it, instead of needing it and not having it with me.
Having a light is also important so you don't accidentally shoot the milkman who was just helping my wife with that bedroom window that's difficult to open. Love that guy, he's always helping.
Should we expect legislation on the local, state, and federal level banning the manufacture and possession of assault acorns? Did the Founding Fathers anticipate such a weapon in their discussion and debate of the 2nd Amendment?
Dude it happened a half mile from my house.. our little town is getting the totally wrong coverage now and it's quite funny to me.. florida man cop for the win I guess..lol
To be fair, he talks to a lot of people who have had to shoot people, so he's not talking to Joe Average. He's also speaking specifically to concealed carry. I would hope he supports a weapon light on a home defense gun.
I carry a Hellcat Pro with a Holosun EPS Carry 2MOA Red Dot, and a Streamlight TLR-7 Sub. I use the RD because the ability to focus on my target, and not the front sight post, is optimal IMHO. The whole "Light Bad" just baffles me. Last I checked, Positive ID was kinda a big deal.
what bothered me the most about that acorn thing is that there were 2 cops, who shot 2 mags at a nonmoving target, and managed to miss every single shot of those two mags, and these are the guys who were supposed to be trained to handle guns
Bruh do you even range day. Actually I take that back, that’s impressively bad. A literal child could’ve hit at least one of those shots by sheer dumb luck.
@@ambiguouszenithar Number 1. If you have a light on your gun, you are sweeping everything you are looking at, thereby breaking the second rule of gun safety. Number 2. If you have a light on your gun, your opponent knows that all he has to do is aim right above the light to shoot you in the chest. Thanks, but no thanks. I'll just hold the flashlight in my other hand, off to one side.
@@kaptnkarl01do you aim with your stomach? 😂😂😂cuz thats the only way that it would make sense to get shot in the chest when aiming above a weapon light cuz if you have it at proper Height to clear and it would be right at neck/ eye level not chest level bud
Acorn Cop sounds and acts suspiciously like Captain Sobel in Band of Brothers... Seriously, I hope that cop _never_ lives down that humiliation. The hilarious "combat roll", the panicked screaming, the claims of being hit, and randomly mag-dumping an empty car...comedic perfection. EDIT: Alright guys I get it, the car wasn't empty, which just makes it that much worse
Uhh… no? Again, I use my light all the time, I go through atleast 4k rounds a day while I’m walking around or going to work so I always have my light charged
At first I thought this happened in California, since those commies are so scared of guns, but nope, it happened in Florida. Still makes sense though, Florida is pretty crazy, even the squirrels are armed.
@@DtownJhis best choice would be to get out of law enforcement if he is that high strung and trigger happy. Not everyone is built for a job where you always have to be on guard against a criminal wanting to shoot you.
5:30 I learned this lesson from Paul Harrell. The dumpy .38 snub nose you carry on you every day and practice with regularly is leagues better than the most modern, gadget-ridden gun you've never shot and left at home.
Of course the snub nose is better than the modern never shot left at home gun. Anything is better than a gun you dont shoot and anything is useless when left at home
@@alexnewell9631 You say it's obvious, but training and program compliance are easily the most common points of failure in self defense situations. Paul's point was also a repudiation of the common advice (often framed as a requirement) that a person get the latest and greatest thing with all the bells and whistles and "spend five thousand dollars" in order to even start training. Yes, improving your tools and expanding your skills is almost always a good idea, but only you can decide if doing so is right for you.
@@alexnewell9631 It might seem obvious, but program compliance and training are the most common points of failure in self-defense and survival situations. Paul's point was also a repudiation of the common 'advice', often framed as necessity, to new shooters to have the latest and greatest hardware with all the bells and whistles before they even consider training. It is indeed a good idea to use the best equipment that is the best for you, and only you can be the judge of what that is.
I was with the 82nd Airborne as part of the initial invasion of Iraq from Kuwait. I also deployed to Afghanistan. I've routinely found myself on QRF for special forces and rangers in combat operations. "Better to have it an not need it..." isn't just a convenience motto, it's life or death sometimes. I would ALWAYS rather be prepared and inconvenienced, rather than ill prepared and disadvantaged.
And to top that off: we're talking about a light and a red dot. They make holsters for that are comfortable. It's not a giant inconvenience to carry a Glock vs to carry a Glock with a dot and light...
Imagine the last thing you see before dying via cop at a traffic stop is him rolling around on the ground screaming, everything is silent as an acorn falls in front of your POV while you think "wtf?" and then get unloaded on.
Massad Ayoob spoke against WML as well in a Wilson Combat video as well. I think they were referencing hand light versus weapon mounted light. I prefer hand light as it lets me keep my weapon trained down range while letting you also check corners without potentially flagging a friendly.
lights also draw fire, having an offhand light lets you have it not right where your weapon, arms, and probably face and chest are if you realize your assailant has a firearm.
Massad Ayoob is overrated. Weapon lights are fine, but I'm a firm believer that if you aren't carrying at least a handheld edc light, you probably have no reason to have a weapon light either. Don't be that cop that uses his gun as a flashlight to help a paramedic treat an accident victim...
Between this and that other cop who had an Nd and that pair that absolutely lit the shit out of ladies apartment it’s becoming very clear that modern police forces are full of incompetents.
Didnt know that, and if thats true It's even more wild to me he thought he was hit, didnt bother to actually check.....guy might have been using.....just wild..😮 But I expect nothing less from Florida man😉
After speaking with a coworker who has years of exp in as an MP and LEO, he was against weapon lights due to the fact that whatever you shine your light on your are pointing your weapon at. Most of the time you need to be able to look around with your light and not your weapon.
@@l3jointI'm one of them. I see it like this - if I'm deep concealing, I need the gun to be as small as possible. I don't really care if somebody sees a flashlight. Side effect, it gets used a whole lot, I never really realized how much I needed an EDC light til I started toting one. As situations change, I can always add to it. Bigger less concealable gun, lights, red dots, yada yada up to a full on bat belt.
@notsure7874 Bat belt haha yes. And not to mention if you need a light just for a whatever reason, you have one. And good point about someone seeing your light, I'd just assume you're a contractor or something, tradesmen, not military contractor lol just for those confused
Red dots are absolutely must for someone like me. 53 year old with perfect sight at distance but +2.5 reading glasses. There is no way that I focus on the front sight of my Springfield XDM without glasses, but then the target is massive blur. With red dot I am focusing on the target and that is it!
I’m just a few years behind you and seeing clearly has indeed become the biggest challenge of shooting well. Thank goodness for optics and also good flashlights and weapon-mounted lights.
I'm the same; great long vision, garbage up close. I shot some rifles with iron sights recently and I was mostly guessing where the sights were. With even a 4x optic I was putting rounds through the same hole in the target consistently. Even with the larger profile, I think I'd be going with a red dot for a CC pistol. I doubt I'd bother with a light though.
I’ve got about 17 years in law enforcement and fortunately outside of training have never had to shoot my weapon at night. I can tell you that during training, those of us with weapon lights are generally more accurate and have significantly faster reload times. I’m no expert but it could have to do with the fact that we are not fumbling with a flashlight and magazines in the sale hand at the same time.
I was once out in a field near some cotton farm away from city passed 1am, in TX. With only a P365 no accessory, one spare mag. 😨That was scratchy as hell... Needless to say I started upgrading everything after that. Including some backpack options. Now I carry a CR920P with EPS carry and TLR7 sub. I have to admit it is the best performance I can do with g43 to g48 sized (micro to sub compact) platform. I also feel that light on a pistol always adds extra stability, and red dot allows me to focus on target to put more well placed shots faster.
Yeah, that sucks that your department doesn't buy one for everyone. Nice to work for a well-funded department. Go State, screw those local departments.
This guy is talking about concealed carry on a daily basis, not law enforcement wich i think is necessary. He have his experience telling him the the simpliest, the better.
@@paulofelipebbraga9634 you are correct however even off duty I carry lights on my guns. The TLR-1 or TLR-7 depending on the firearm I chose. My point being a weapon mounted light allows you a free hand in the instance you do have to draw your firearm at night. It also allows you an additional level in the use of force continuum and a less lethal option. You can also better assess the threat and see what you otherwise might not be able to
Wilson Combat lost me back when they claimed that it’s bad to release the slide on an empty chamber. Maybe Wilson’s 1911s are that fragile, but I would trust any solid modern handgun not to see significant extra wear or damage from doing so.
its not just the 1911 that is that way, a lot of firearms are. yes some are not because of other design choices. but basically you are adding wear in tear that just isnt necessary. its also that same reason you dont put a bullet into the chamber with your hand. insert the mag, release slide, release mag either insert another bullet into mag, or if its a mag you have for that purpose insert your full other mag into the gun. its better for the gun, its better from a safety standpoint, its better from a potential jam standpoint
I was a cop in Texas for 20 years and during that time, all sorts of different flashlight tactics were taught and endorsed. For much of my LE career we carried D-cell and C-cell Maglites. Looking back, there were several times when a weapon-mounted light would have been really useful, no question, but pistols with rails weren't yet a 'thing' back in the Pleistocene era. I like the idea of a weapon light that can be easily and quickly mounted and dismounted using a spring clip attachment method for when it's needed, allowing the light to be used separately. I've seen far too many modern cops who use their weapon mounted light like a simple flashlight, all the time apparently oblivious to the fact that they are simultaneously pointing a loaded firearm at everything and everybody.
to someone who just plays sim counter terrorist games and watches police bodycam I feel like youd be at a disadvantage using a flashlight in a wartime scenario where you dont really need to positive ID people, but for law enforcement situation having a flashlight seems like a must have
Weapon light, and Red Dot: superfluous --- until you need them. It's much better to have them, and not need them, than to need them and not have them. And this is coming from a 75 year old Boomer/CCW holder/veteran.
We used to call this, condom theory (better to have and not need, than to need and not have). Also, better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war.
Yes they are nice... however it is without a doubt a truth that more dicks have been put in the dirt by iron sights than by any sight.... just is what it is..... you think the vast majority of criminals that shot and unalived someone had a light or sight on their gun?
while some folks believe a weapon mounted light is a crucial necessity, it still tends to have your muzzle point at people and things you may *not* want to destroy.
I think this is exactly what he was talking about, he's not saying that using a flashlight period is pointless, he's saying that it's far better to use a handheld flashlight over a weapon-mounted one. I'd certainly prefer to hear someone trying to break into my house, go down stairs, and point just a flashlight at my teen daughter trying, and failing, to quietly sneak into the house, as opposed to pointing a gun at her head for however long it takes to ID her. This just seems like the Internet being the Internet and assuming and spreading an opinion without any context on or knowledge of what they're talking about
@@destinpatterson1644I mean you CAN have both ya know? Use the handheld to identify the possible threat assess the situation and throw down your light and draw if you need to. That’s kinda the issue with just relying on one or the other you close yourself off from having that option when in reality you can just have both and still be pretty darn effective
Flatly applying that phrase to a weapon's accessories would logically result in TactiCool abominations. There has to be some moderating rationale controlling WHAT things you have but don't need, or you just wind up having everything. Which brings us back to the beginning, determining if each individual thing is beneficial or not.
Well he said they are massivly overrated, no that you shouldn't use them or that they aren't useful, and to be fair, in most scenarios you are not gonna have to turn that thing on so I don't get why the gun community is acting like they just got tread'ed on. If he would have said that they are completely useless and a gimmick or anything like that I would understand. Same with the reddot. He said that on short distances it doesn't make a diffrence which he clearly has a point but didn't say anything about them being useless or worse then irons. (Unless brandon clipped it out then I blame him) I'm guessing the gun community just needed someone to laugh at and he was the victim since none of the arguments made against his statement really have any relevance to what he is saying.
Yep. When was the last time the vast majority of people who conceal carry legitimately NEEDED that gun? They didn't. That doesn't change the fact that for the one time when you DO need it, its damn sure better to have it at the ready. Something along the lines of better to have and not need than to need and not have...
It's a common argument from people who don't like any subject. I've heard, 'when's the last time you *really* needed it' from uni students about condoms, designated drivers, the police non-emergency number, the roadside assistance number, and rather a really lot of *other* common-sense things they felt the need to argue against.
Essentially this, though if you are not in draw competition with the bad guy, i would still use separate flashlight on supporting hand to have the light bit on the side of the firing line so case perp actually fires towards light it has higher chance of missing if his accurate shooter... then again most perps can hit for shit unless its point blank range so this might cause more issues with twiched shots. Specially if you are right handed just like perp there is tendency to pull trigger and hence gun right, so leftie technically has advantage in this one against rightie. For dot..i always think its just another thing to catch into things well as in dark potentially revealing your location, but while its off that is not a issue and for close range you do get kinda window for some what accurate shots, specially good if you are like me who cant see the iron sights that well. With scope or dot no issue but lining the shot with irons is very difficult for me.
The only thing I can say against gun lights are if you’re not looking at the right spot or coming down a hallway with it you are giving your position away a bit more then if you didn’t have one but I can see in a lot of self defense scenarios that you’re much better off having one so you have that option to use then not having one
This falls under the 'Everyone's got an opinion' category. He's entitled to his opinion. This doesn't mean the rest of us have to share or follow it. I'm waiting to see them install an 'Assault Acorn Ban', limiting trees to a maximum of 10 nuts (Or less).
@@timothychartier yeah, I'd like to see better PID from a cop, especially a higher ranking officer, but at the same time, if I'm in a gun fight, I want people who can think for themselves and at least suppress the general area I'm supposedly being engaged from.
Paul Harrel in his "Top 5 tools for Concealed Carry" video... (I think that's the title) said it best. The gun mounted light should be in ADDITION to a stand-alone flashlight rather than INSTEAD of. There are far more scenarios where you need to point a light at something without having to point a gun at something. The example he used in his video was leaving a restaurant at night and seeing someone crouched by your car. Rather than point your gun light, and by extension your gun, at him you simply shine you flashlight. 99.99% of the time, the guy dropped his wallet or keys or whatever and can't find it. On the off chance he does mean you or someone else harm, you are in a position where you have the drop on him, likely scaring him out of action or now being in a position to shoot him should the situation escalate.
Right, but now I'm already holding a flashlight. Why would I want to drop that one and activate one on my gun when I can just draw the gun, keep the light on the other guy, cross my wrists and use the light the old-school way? If I was going into certain combat, sure, I'd take a gun-mounted light, but not for every day carry as a civilian. Too heavy and makes the draw slower for me. Plus, how many people do you think actually check the batteries in their gun light? Also, I'm with the guy on iron sights. Red dot means you have to put your eye in the same spot behind the pistol every time to accurately aim. Otherwise, the dot is off to the side and nowhere near the point of impact. With irons, I can line them up without my eye being directly behind them. Great for making shots while lying down or from tight positions. plus, if I get dirt or sweat or blood or something in my right eye, I can just use my left without throwing the point of impact off. Although, I don't know what he's talking about when he's saying inside 10 yards. I've never needed to use the sights that close up with my 1911 non-A1. The A1-type mainspring bulge makes me shoot high, but the WWI model I carry is so pointable. Point at the target with your index finger along the side of the gun, then reach down and pull the trigger. Ding. I'd probably still hit a person-sized target with an A1, but I usually go an inch or two over the 10" plate I use to practice when I try to point that one. I use the sights over 20-25 yards, which is why I like the thin blade on the WWI sights. Modern iron sights just block my view of the target at that distance.
Some people in here don't seem to understand the difference between using a firearm for personal protection, and using a firearm to clear houses doing door to doors in Fallujah. The scary part is they go straight for "Fallujah" instead of "my home where my wife and kids live". They're like a bunch of bobblehead muppets trying to justify playing army man with real guns.
@@notsure7874 I fully agree on this one. The way I see it there are two types of people who buy guns for self-defense. The type who buys a gun praying they never have to use it, and the type who buys a gun and wakes up every morning hoping someone fucks around enough to find out. What sucks is that we see more and more of the second type nowadays.
@@FuckGoogle502 Yeah, I agree with pretty much all of this, and it also brings up another reason why I carry a separate light. I actually use my flashlight. I know its battery isn't dead from sitting unused in a holster for 6 months. My irons won't run out of batteries either. I'm not going to drop my EDC light generally speaking, I'm going to use the hand cross. But I might switch to a weapon light if its convenient. Nevermind the keyboard operators talking shit about "one handed" shooting. Hand cross is stabilized too, just not as much maybe as a two handed grip. Also, in case any of these donut destroyers are reading this - I can shoot one handed just fine, in either hand. Because I train, and because I don't have weak arms / hands. Oh, and also because I don't have 30 pounds of extra bullshit on my pistol too.
@@larryswiston2140 Ya man, then they'll call you a boomer for not living in paralyzing fear, ready to draw at the drop of an acorn... These idiots are literally the same as the cop they're making fun of here.
In the course I did with a retired marine DI, the argument was it is better to carry a handheld flashlight that you can manipulate separately. Advantage being that if someone shot at the light you wouldn't be behind it. But that involves holding the flashlight further out with a cross arm brace like on the cover of his book and it means that your single hand skills would need to be on par.
@@mav.- This is a factor that too many people are overlooking. It's a crime to brandish a weapon needlessly in public, it's a felony to point a loaded one at someone that isn't an immediate threat. Concealed weapons are used in an immediate crisis once you have already identified a threat, and in an immediate crisis you don't have time to be fumbling with secondary controls. If you're in the dark and you need to ID something you absolutely cannot see at all, a pocket flashlight is a far superior tool (and they're generally more powerful than pistol lights too.)
Right. It's not don't have illumination argument, but rather that you are wasting money on a weapons light feature when a handheld is the better tactical solution anyway. Of course how many people carry a flashlight or have it as part of their EDC vs just having the weapons light. You definitely need to train, have a plan and be disciplined with your setup. And definitely take a force on force training class. Your perspective and mindset changes when the paper targets are shooting back at you.
Acting like you’re a fictional thing? If you’re restating your consent to be kept as a slave until death with that behavior…why not stay out of character unless consent to joke/practice has been gained?
I knew an STL cop who never carried a gun mounted light. He used his flashlight and held it away from his body so if a bad guy was using it as a target, he'd most likely be safe. Seemed like sound logic to me.
This also comes from the old (and modern days in Florida and Louisiana) of carrying hurricane lantern to the side so it gives you better light spread. There was practical positioning and the lantern being off to side rather than in front like most people cause people aiming at the light to shoot arm length off center mass. So much gun counter and squad room lore around how to carry your light. Just be thankful the days of The "6 D cell" Mag Lights are in the past..... The were bright, they made great a melee weapons(one head hit and lights out for the receiver) but they were heavy and battery change always hurt the wallet. Now that said, if you need to re-pounded in railroad spikes(could be an emergency fix from train robbers needed back then), to fix the track your could use that mag light with out fear of hurting it....
In exchange for moving the light away from your body, you give up some stability of stance and two handed control of the firearm. Would you rather prioritize tricking a threat into shooting you in the hand instead of the chest, or putting fast and accurate fire on target so the threat never gets a chance to shoot you at all?
@@1retiredknight I mean... you can't always be faster. Just the law of averages. It also probably depends on the context of violence. A cop is often going into a place with no prior SA of the place full of bad guys. Most civilians aren't operating under that context.
@@Nate-lq8jc If your are simply scanning your surroundings, that should never be done with a weapon light. A weapon light is for final verification of the threat and a clear foreground and background before firing.
Every time Brandon seamlessly segues from the topic of discussion to getting my gunsmithing license at SDI I crack a smile and say "You crafty bastard" as I like the video.
During the acorn debacle, Scott from Kentucky Ballistics makes a brief appearance in the form of his body building alter ego during the crawling scene. The voice is unmistakable lol
I got pulled over when I was 19 for expired tags and the cop asked me to come sit in his car while he wrote me a ticket A acorn fell on top of his car from the tree above and I jumped thinking someone tossed a rock at his car.. well with out flenching and still typing the ticket he said “acorn” True chad moment right there apparently
4:57 I can see where the guy is coming from. Lights and extra sights add bulk to the weapon and extra weight and maintenance requirements, all this on a Concealed Carry makes it less comfortable and less concealed. A concealed carry is something you have in case on a need, it is not a tactical weapon that you are using as a tool that is expected to be used. Unless you have really good batteries and the light etc automatically turns on in the dark or something the likelihood that you actually use it even if you have it is as small hopefully as the need to use it.
From the clips in this video I took what he said as a kind of, "Don't focus and stress on getting a red dot and light". Maybe it isn't what he means but hes around that age that promotes learning how to shoot your gun well. A 300$ glock will serve you well in most cases without 600$ worth of accessories.
I used to carry a Glock 19 with a TLR7, it's not that deep, the light isn't noticeable on the gun after you use a couple mags, the TLR7 has a disconnect so battery life is a very long time, and it's super easy to click on as you raise the gun, it's about as hard as disengaging a safety on a more standard handgun. I carry a Jericho 941 now because it's just a better handgun than the Glock in my eyes, but it doesn't have a rail, I do miss my light
Statically speaking humans are far more dangerous than wild animals. That being said I've never had an encounter with a desperate hungry mountain lion.@@74bajatom
I kind of like the old method of separate light from carry pistol. A flashlight is very useful outside of self defense, strapping a gun to it limits when you can use it.
LOL! Ken sure stirred up some discussion. I’m closer to Ken’s age than Brandon’s. My EDC pistol doesn’t have a light, but about the time Brandon was a toddler I added Ashley Express sights (before the Big Dot and name change to XS Sights). I carry a light - or three. My house pistol, my wife’s 12 gauge - definitely lights. If I was a working cop (I’d NEVER do that; my best buddy retired from that more than a decade ago), I’d have a light and probably a red dot. But for me, it’s draw 1911 (told you I was old), place dot on threat, press trigger until threat is no longer.
Great gun meme review Brandon! I voted for you yesterday and have been urging others to do so in person and in my posts on the SA Republicans blog. Of the 4 of you running to unseat our incumbent RINO, I would rather have an outsider as our Rep, who will throw elbows instead of rub them. Tony has a lot of money behind him, but I think enough people are tired of him stabbing us all in the back.
In close combat, I think the old man is referring to that its more effective to rely on physical memory in those close situations, the ones where you're not trying to shoot a bad guy who's using a hostage as a shield. Everything has its purpose. Subjectively, I don't like red dots on pistols because they obscure my field of sight and that red vibrating dot pulls too much focus from my eyes to be able to pay attention to the surroundings outside of that red-dot frame. I love them on rifles, though! :)
I carry a Coleman Powerhouse Lantern in my support hand kinda like a switch guy on the old railroad. Just that sound from the lantern that it makes could be enough to scare them away. I don't know how to make that sound with letters but here goes ksksksksksks as the propane flows through the mantels 🤣
The argument against a weapon mounted light is based on the idea of carrying a separate flashlight to be used in tandem with the gun. I'm not saying I agree, I've just heard some people say that it's more versatile and functional.
@@TapRackBang516 Exactly, I carry a little keychain light that's actually super bright, no excuse not to carry it everywhere since it sits with my keys.
That is very much like arguing that you should uninstall the clock function on your cell phone and use only a watch. You don't need two devices that tell time, right?
The whole argument about lights for Ken was that in order to shine the light on something and identify it as a threat or not, you're going to have to flag your weapon on potential non-threats. To that I say, if you're light isn't bright enough for you to identify targets while it's pointed at a low ready, then you need a brighter light...
@@SawTomEyesMe Yep. And a piece of glass can get covered in mud or dust or paint or pepper spray or get cracked by an unlucky bit of shrapnel. Doesn't seem rugged enough to be a pistol sight.
@@Trent-m6j I think it's debatable that modern pistol optics are tough "enough." While it's true that the glass presents a larger surface area and thus a larger chance for visual disruption, don't forget that iron sights can get covered in mud AND I would argue they can be bumped out of zero easier than a screwed down optic... If I was doing an amphibious assault, then sure I'd take the iron sights... but as a joe shmoe who "theoretically" (go ahead and roast me for saying that) won't remove the weapon from under the cover and protection of a garment until right before firing, I don't think that it's that big of a risk.
The guy has more experience than effectively all of us on this thread. Worthy expert to consider his opinion and then keep doing what you were doing before this video!
@kevinallies1014 what a change of times, you used to carry lighter pistols play with airguns in the streets.. now you can get lit up for throwing an accorn.
@kevinallies1014that’s not a charge they can make stick if you have ANY reason to believe someone might be a threat. There’s no criminal intent in identifying whether they are or not.
@@coryhoggatt7691 Dude, that is 100% wrong and you've said it multiple times, stop. You cannot point a gun at someone and just simply say "well, I didn't know if he was a threat or not", nor can you use a weapon mounted light as an excuse for pointing a gun at someone. It doesn't work like that, the person can absolutely file charges against you, and there's a good chance even if you avoid jail you will lose your gun rights. Don't spread misinformation.
My thoughts on weapon lights is its something you use when you KNOW you are going into trouble not something you put on a EDC and when doing so it is effective. Kind of like wearing body armor with level 3 and above plates and a ballistic helmet. Its for when things go REAL wrong and you keep it with your gear stash. On a EDC or a CCW it makes your weapon bigger heavier its another point of failure due to every day wear and tear and it increases the chance of snagging on the draw. Edit: This does not apply for guns you leave at home to defend your home there is really no real concrete reason not to put whatever you want on those.
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The man the myth the legend
They cool
ngl i kinda like red dots but idk about maglites and whatnot
Dummies who say “wHeNs ThE LasT tIme u NeeDeD It?
Cool when’s the last time you needed your gun in self defense? 99% of gun owners will never need their gun in self defense.
In Canada they already banned assault acorns, we gotta stick to semi auto maple leaves and pinecones
Damn, no fun in Canada 😭
Canadian here. Can vouch for this. 100% accurate.
Too bad Canadian health care is wait 6 months for medical acorn death.
Many non Canuckistanis dont know this, but assault acorns come apart into two pieces. if you send them by mail from the states, in two seperate pieces as different packages, its not technically illegal, and you can re assemble them on the other side
i also heard there was some crazy french rednecks deep in the woods of northern quebec way off the grid who are growing THEIR OWN!!!!
Them green pinecones do hurt. 😂😂😂
I like how no matter who goes over Cop v. Accorn, Scrat from Ice Age is bound to be used.
TIL his name was Scrat, never knew that, thanks.
@@AngySumo he was a squirrel rat aka scrat
I like how nobody makes it the suspects fault for once
The fact that the officer attacked by the assault acorn yelled “I’M HIT I’M HIT!” as he proceeded to empty an entire mag is hilarious.
Only reason it took him a week to "resign" was because he was in the pysch ward gettting an assement.
He also just said " shots fired, there " and his partner also opened fire in the direction of that hemisphere.
Clearly had NEVER taken a round before.
I think it was from him hitting the concrete.
ok to be fair the suspect was seen online with a suppressed gun (which he threatened woman with) so maybe dispatch told him that and maybe hes never heard what a suppressed gun sounds like except for the movies
possible but unlikely
Acorn cop reminds me of Will Farrell in Talledega nights. “I’m on fire!!! I’M on fire!!!”
This was my immediate thought
“Help me Baby Jesus!”
Chicken little
Yeah, except Ricky Bobby was most likely on fire from methanol fire
James Freemans channel shows that
Use a blackpowder blunderbus to blind your opponent with a cloud of lead and smoke.
Switching to your blunderbuss is faster than reloading
"own a musket for home defense, cuz thats what the founding fathers intended."
Four ruffians break into my home
@@Paniksaw211 WHAT THE DEVIL I shout as I grab my powdered wig and kentucky rifle
@@Paniksaw211 "What the Devil?"
I briefly had a doctor that had been practicing medicine for over forty years. And I firmly believe that once he earned his title, he never learned another thing.
Yup! I have encountered a few of those.
There is jumpy and then there is „I thought that acorn hitting the roof was a suppressed firearm shot from within the car“-jumpy
Dude had the audacity to say he was hit🤣
@RazorStormInc dude wants to be jumpy alright okay whatever. U do u booboo. But when u start hollering your hit....you need to seek help from that trama
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My bedside gun has a light, but my carry gun has irons and no light. Not for any reason, that’s just how it worked out. I do carry a pocket full of acorns though.
Keeping the squirrels happy good call Morty.
but bruh... youve never had to use the weapon light so why even have it....
the same way youve never had to use your carry gun so why even have it....
the same way youve never had to use a tourniquet so why even have one....
the same way youve never had to use first aid skills so why even learn them....
yeah its time for the retirement home for that dude
Those better not be fully semi-automatic assault acorns!!
You carry a pocket full of WHAT!? You monster!
@@Barskor1 Fellow Rick and Morty fan eh? 😂
Cops: sir do you have any weapons on you?
Me:"sweating about the 5 acorns in my left pocket."
Pocket restricted states will be limited to 10 total acorns.
slingshot ammo. felony
Great comment! 😂😂😂 Now California is going to make a law “no more oak trees”.
I'm imagining someone that keeps acorns in a specific pocket just in case he actually gets searched.
@@XenoSpyro and got it on video, that would be hilarious, lol!
rumors say the acorn cop is still rolling on the road yelling shots fired till this day
i am batman@PurgeTime
Those GTA combat rolls were OP for sure...he forgot to turn on his aim bot though...GGs, GGs.
@PurgeTime bro what
When I heard Ken ask when the last time you needed the light my immediate thought was that the majority of people haven't needed to use their guns in self defense.
Its better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
This is literally exactly the rule I live by. It’s why my backpacks and such have been much heavier than most. I want to have everything I would likely need for the day on me in case I need it, instead of needing it and not having it with me.
They’ll be the ones crying when they are at a disadvantage due to not having a light while everybody else has one.
came here looking for this comment, great rule to live by
Ken, when was the last time you shot something you didn't need to see?
One could use that argument to say insurance is a scam, I mean, are you planning to crash or something?
Having a light is also important so you don't accidentally shoot the milkman who was just helping my wife with that bedroom window that's difficult to open. Love that guy, he's always helping.
That's a totally hands on job. Don't cheat yourself treat yourself.😂
Always happy help
@@SentientglassofmilkWhy did doom music come to mind when I read this?
Sure. But that means you’re pointing guns and waiving it around without first identifying your target.
It’s not cringe if it works, or has worked
Should we expect legislation on the local, state, and federal level banning the manufacture and possession of assault acorns? Did the Founding Fathers anticipate such a weapon in their discussion and debate of the 2nd Amendment?
Dude it happened a half mile from my house.. our little town is getting the totally wrong coverage now and it's quite funny to me.. florida man cop for the win I guess..lol
Small easily concealable Saturday harvest hazelnuts shouts be completely banned
@@shawnmiller4781 I dunno man, I like my high-capacity assault conkers.
Yep, watch out fellas, they'll be coming for your nuts now.
Yep, dems will want to ban high capacity oak trees and demand a 10 day waiting period before you can purchase an oak tree
"naked homeless guy with an axe trying to break down your front door"... I didn't think Brandon would ever visit Seattle!
He was going to. But you know. Forgot about it.
I live in WA and I don't visit unless necessary
I love that argument
"When's the last time you needed to use your weapon light?"
When's the last time you needed to use your weapon?
When's the last time a 14yr old boy needed a condom?
To be fair, he talks to a lot of people who have had to shoot people, so he's not talking to Joe Average.
He's also speaking specifically to concealed carry. I would hope he supports a weapon light on a home defense gun.
@@theodorehunter4765 lights out in the home yeah I would appreciate having a light, makes sense
I think for this we could also use the argument, "Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it."
I carry a Hellcat Pro with a Holosun EPS Carry 2MOA Red Dot, and a Streamlight TLR-7 Sub. I use the RD because the ability to focus on my target, and not the front sight post, is optimal IMHO. The whole "Light Bad" just baffles me. Last I checked, Positive ID was kinda a big deal.
"black tip 30-06, turning level 4 plates into a suggestion"
Inspirational
what bothered me the most about that acorn thing is that there were 2 cops, who shot 2 mags at a nonmoving target, and managed to miss every single shot of those two mags, and these are the guys who were supposed to be trained to handle guns
They only have minimum qualifications.... it's scary how little they're required.
And they straight LIED about everything in the moment too. This is literally a trait children pull.
It’s quite simple. The good cops left 4 years ago. Anyone left is a tyrant and or will enforce tyrannical laws. They’re not our friends.
Bruh do you even range day. Actually I take that back, that’s impressively bad. A literal child could’ve hit at least one of those shots by sheer dumb luck.
Also, just noting, both cops had red dots, and the gear CV could not replace character
Brandon - "Nobody got shot [at Shot Show]."
Nobody - "Las Vegas doesn't have acorns."
it was a suburban community, likely with an HOA those places always plant non-native trees.
thanks to james okeefe
@@thurin84underrated
@@logandarnell8946 Almost all of the landscaping in Las Vegas are non-native species.
there was an acorn visible bouncing off the car rood in the bodycam footage but ok
A vote for Brandon is a vote for acorns
@PurgeTimewho are you?
@@shadyshadow3849 unexplained autist.
@@shadyshadow3849hes a UTTP troll
@@shadyshadow3849Well, at least they aren't spamming essential oil pills this time...
@@shadyshadow3849just report it for spam.
3:48 Murthy’s 27th law of combat: Tracers work both ways
Exactly...
... and lights mounted on your gun.
@@kaptnkarl01 have you ever looked into a flashlight before while its on
@@ambiguouszenithar Number 1. If you have a light on your gun, you are sweeping everything you are looking at, thereby breaking the second rule of gun safety. Number 2. If you have a light on your gun, your opponent knows that all he has to do is aim right above the light to shoot you in the chest. Thanks, but no thanks. I'll just hold the flashlight in my other hand, off to one side.
@@kaptnkarl01do you aim with your stomach? 😂😂😂cuz thats the only way that it would make sense to get shot in the chest when aiming above a weapon light cuz if you have it at proper Height to clear and it would be right at neck/ eye level not chest level bud
*Congressman Herrera:* "Bill! Text! Review!"
Oh man, can you imagine the snark? He's sarcastic enough with the gun memes and Darwin Awards
A youtuber that went through bills and explained them in an easy to understand way with no bias would be really good
@@willshields4480 Well maybe a little "Do we really need this at all?" bias wouldn't be so bad.
Acorn Cop sounds and acts suspiciously like Captain Sobel in Band of Brothers...
Seriously, I hope that cop _never_ lives down that humiliation. The hilarious "combat roll", the panicked screaming, the claims of being hit, and randomly mag-dumping an empty car...comedic perfection.
EDIT: Alright guys I get it, the car wasn't empty, which just makes it that much worse
That is a beautiful comparison
the car wasnt empty.............. luckily no one got hit
"Private...Acorn. Acorn's another name for suppressed gunshots, isn't it?" (Combat rolls away yelling "Hi Ho, Silver")
@@HowWittyHalo Fair point, this makes this particular cop's ineptitude even more complete.
Dude was rolling like he was fighting a Elden Ring boss.
We're all real proud of your run for Congress. Trying to make a difference instead of just gripping about the current situation is the only way
Man’s off the copium
A few years later, he runs for the presidential seat.
@@Vernich762wdym
AOC shall never determine how we excerise our 2nd right my brother
@@King011Productions Most people just cope and let stuff happen. Brandon isn’t most people
I think the dot and light are the perfect example of "id rather have it and not need than need it and not have it"
Uhh… no? Again, I use my light all the time, I go through atleast 4k rounds a day while I’m walking around or going to work so I always have my light charged
@@Spectorblade what's your point, I haven't said anything to contradict having a dot/light? .... 4k per day? Doubtful
@@Ringer2191 I think he's being a smartass.
@@CallanElliottyou dont say lol
Please, PLEASE, keep up the SDI transitions. They both amuse and annoy the hell out of my daughter.
thats livid bro
So that means there is atleast one female that watches this channel.
The juxtaposition of Hackathorn trashing red dots with the cop mag-dumping into an occupied vehicle over an acorn... with a red dot, is subtle genius.
Oh come on acorns are hard to hit, you would need the whole mag too
Stop using big words nobody remembers what those mean
@@CallistoHere There's always time to check the dictionary.
@@CallistoHereyou 11 or did you never graduate elementary school?
@@doorsareforopening I just don’t care enough to remember what they mean
This cop will never live this down. Such bizarre footage.
Yeah, his best bet is moving to Nebraska or Iowa and becoming a small town cop and live in the shadows 🤣
At first I thought this happened in California, since those commies are so scared of guns, but nope, it happened in Florida. Still makes sense though, Florida is pretty crazy, even the squirrels are armed.
@@DtownJhis best choice would be to get out of law enforcement if he is that high strung and trigger happy. Not everyone is built for a job where you always have to be on guard against a criminal wanting to shoot you.
That was the smoothest sponser mention ever 😂, "homeboy is gettin paid. Maybe he can persue gunsmithing at SDI..." cracked me up
5:30 I learned this lesson from Paul Harrell. The dumpy .38 snub nose you carry on you every day and practice with regularly is leagues better than the most modern, gadget-ridden gun you've never shot and left at home.
Paul Harrel - Respect
Of course the snub nose is better than the modern never shot left at home gun. Anything is better than a gun you dont shoot and anything is useless when left at home
Even Garand Thumb agrees with that. He usually ends his videos with a speech about training being the most important thing.
@@alexnewell9631 You say it's obvious, but training and program compliance are easily the most common points of failure in self defense situations. Paul's point was also a repudiation of the common advice (often framed as a requirement) that a person get the latest and greatest thing with all the bells and whistles and "spend five thousand dollars" in order to even start training. Yes, improving your tools and expanding your skills is almost always a good idea, but only you can decide if doing so is right for you.
@@alexnewell9631 It might seem obvious, but program compliance and training are the most common points of failure in self-defense and survival situations. Paul's point was also a repudiation of the common 'advice', often framed as necessity, to new shooters to have the latest and greatest hardware with all the bells and whistles before they even consider training. It is indeed a good idea to use the best equipment that is the best for you, and only you can be the judge of what that is.
I was with the 82nd Airborne as part of the initial invasion of Iraq from Kuwait. I also deployed to Afghanistan. I've routinely found myself on QRF for special forces and rangers in combat operations. "Better to have it an not need it..." isn't just a convenience motto, it's life or death sometimes. I would ALWAYS rather be prepared and inconvenienced, rather than ill prepared and disadvantaged.
Generations of boyscouts can't be wrong.
And to top that off: we're talking about a light and a red dot. They make holsters for that are comfortable. It's not a giant inconvenience to carry a Glock vs to carry a Glock with a dot and light...
Imagine the last thing you see before dying via cop at a traffic stop is him rolling around on the ground screaming, everything is silent as an acorn falls in front of your POV while you think "wtf?" and then get unloaded on.
I'm waiting for the FPS that adds a mine whose trigger sound before it mercs you is THAT acorn sound bit.
While cuffed and in a locked steel box smh gotta be terrified even worse, or better I guess..dude was fine in the car
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"Black Lives Matter" was a lie. There is no need for police reform at all!
Massad Ayoob spoke against WML as well in a Wilson Combat video as well. I think they were referencing hand light versus weapon mounted light. I prefer hand light as it lets me keep my weapon trained down range while letting you also check corners without potentially flagging a friendly.
Keeping at low ready with a hi-lumen is plenty of light to see around the house. 😎
lights also draw fire, having an offhand light lets you have it not right where your weapon, arms, and probably face and chest are if you realize your assailant has a firearm.
Massad Ayoob is overrated. Weapon lights are fine, but I'm a firm believer that if you aren't carrying at least a handheld edc light, you probably have no reason to have a weapon light either. Don't be that cop that uses his gun as a flashlight to help a paramedic treat an accident victim...
The fact that this is an experienced cop and a special forces officer instead of some greenhorn is absolutely terrifying
He’s claiming the PTSD thing a ma jig. Been to West Point, so called badass army ranger……..but never been in actual combat.
Between this and that other cop who had an Nd and that pair that absolutely lit the shit out of ladies apartment it’s becoming very clear that modern police forces are full of incompetents.
Didnt know that, and if thats true It's even more wild to me he thought he was hit, didnt bother to actually check.....guy might have been using.....just wild..😮
But I expect nothing less from Florida man😉
And the guy folded to an acorn.... man.... an acorn....
Dude has to be schizo or something
Was already on a Herrera binge, perfect fucking timing
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Legend has it that Assault Acorns are deadlier than frag grenades.
Thats just nuts -- had to say it.🙃
@@MrOlgrumpy -_-
@@MrOlgrumpy (I liked)
After speaking with a coworker who has years of exp in as an MP and LEO, he was against weapon lights due to the fact that whatever you shine your light on your are pointing your weapon at. Most of the time you need to be able to look around with your light and not your weapon.
A lot of dudes are rocking a small light in their off hand now for this exact reason. I'd always have a light.
@@l3jointI'm one of them. I see it like this - if I'm deep concealing, I need the gun to be as small as possible. I don't really care if somebody sees a flashlight. Side effect, it gets used a whole lot, I never really realized how much I needed an EDC light til I started toting one. As situations change, I can always add to it. Bigger less concealable gun, lights, red dots, yada yada up to a full on bat belt.
@notsure7874 Bat belt haha yes. And not to mention if you need a light just for a whatever reason, you have one. And good point about someone seeing your light, I'd just assume you're a contractor or something, tradesmen, not military contractor lol just for those confused
@@l3jointThe light gets used a whole lot more than the gun, that's for sure.
Red dots are absolutely must for someone like me. 53 year old with perfect sight at distance but +2.5 reading glasses. There is no way that I focus on the front sight of my Springfield XDM without glasses, but then the target is massive blur. With red dot I am focusing on the target and that is it!
I’m just a few years behind you and seeing clearly has indeed become the biggest challenge of shooting well. Thank goodness for optics and also good flashlights and weapon-mounted lights.
I'm the same; great long vision, garbage up close. I shot some rifles with iron sights recently and I was mostly guessing where the sights were. With even a 4x optic I was putting rounds through the same hole in the target consistently. Even with the larger profile, I think I'd be going with a red dot for a CC pistol. I doubt I'd bother with a light though.
@kevinallies1014You literally just didn't read the comment at all before posting a reply to it huh...
That dudes "combat rolls" were amazing 😂
Dude played so much dark souls
In only heavy armor lol
When the only rolls you've tackled in your training are donuts.
I’ve got about 17 years in law enforcement and fortunately outside of training have never had to shoot my weapon at night. I can tell you that during training, those of us with weapon lights are generally more accurate and have significantly faster reload times. I’m no expert but it could have to do with the fact that we are not fumbling with a flashlight and magazines in the sale hand at the same time.
I was once out in a field near some cotton farm away from city passed 1am, in TX. With only a P365 no accessory, one spare mag. 😨That was scratchy as hell... Needless to say I started upgrading everything after that. Including some backpack options.
Now I carry a CR920P with EPS carry and TLR7 sub. I have to admit it is the best performance I can do with g43 to g48 sized (micro to sub compact) platform. I also feel that light on a pistol always adds extra stability, and red dot allows me to focus on target to put more well placed shots faster.
Yeah, that sucks that your department doesn't buy one for everyone. Nice to work for a well-funded department.
Go State, screw those local departments.
This guy is talking about concealed carry on a daily basis, not law enforcement wich i think is necessary. He have his experience telling him the the simpliest, the better.
@@paulofelipebbraga9634 you are correct however even off duty I carry lights on my guns. The TLR-1 or TLR-7 depending on the firearm I chose. My point being a weapon mounted light allows you a free hand in the instance you do have to draw your firearm at night. It also allows you an additional level in the use of force continuum and a less lethal option. You can also better assess the threat and see what you otherwise might not be able to
Wilson Combat lost me back when they claimed that it’s bad to release the slide on an empty chamber. Maybe Wilson’s 1911s are that fragile, but I would trust any solid modern handgun not to see significant extra wear or damage from doing so.
its not just the 1911 that is that way, a lot of firearms are. yes some are not because of other design choices. but basically you are adding wear in tear that just isnt necessary. its also that same reason you dont put a bullet into the chamber with your hand. insert the mag, release slide, release mag either insert another bullet into mag, or if its a mag you have for that purpose insert your full other mag into the gun. its better for the gun, its better from a safety standpoint, its better from a potential jam standpoint
I was a cop in Texas for 20 years and during that time, all sorts of different flashlight tactics were taught and endorsed. For much of my LE career we carried D-cell and C-cell Maglites. Looking back, there were several times when a weapon-mounted light would have been really useful, no question, but pistols with rails weren't yet a 'thing' back in the Pleistocene era. I like the idea of a weapon light that can be easily and quickly mounted and dismounted using a spring clip attachment method for when it's needed, allowing the light to be used separately. I've seen far too many modern cops who use their weapon mounted light like a simple flashlight, all the time apparently oblivious to the fact that they are simultaneously pointing a loaded firearm at everything and everybody.
You get a like for using Pleistocene in a sentence.
@@damoclesecoe7184you too
to someone who just plays sim counter terrorist games and watches police bodycam I feel like youd be at a disadvantage using a flashlight in a wartime scenario where you dont really need to positive ID people, but for law enforcement situation having a flashlight seems like a must have
Training issue
Never and I mean never underestimate the value of a D-cell maglight in a scuffle.......
We have chickens, we have predators, predators come out at night, I've had to use a light *every single time I've fired my gun in the last two years.*
Pretty sure that's not what Ken was talking about..... 🙄 I need a weapon light because chickens....
@@stephenbarabas6286 Shit happens at night too.
There's almost no downside, there's no point in even taking the stance except to piss people off.
Predators... enough said
@@stephenbarabas6286did you even read the feast of the comment after chicken?
@@CrackfiendOG that was the main point. :)
Weapon light, and Red Dot: superfluous --- until you need them. It's much better to have them, and not need them, than to need them and not have them. And this is coming from a 75 year old Boomer/CCW holder/veteran.
This is what I tell people when asked why I carry. I'd rather have it and never need it than need it and not have it.
We used to call this, condom theory (better to have and not need, than to need and not have). Also, better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war.
Yes they are nice... however it is without a doubt a truth that more dicks have been put in the dirt by iron sights than by any sight.... just is what it is..... you think the vast majority of criminals that shot and unalived someone had a light or sight on their gun?
Proves you’re not a fudd. Not all boomers are fudds. And not every fudd is a boomer either, I’ve seen millennial and gen z fudds too.
@@Sparks00psn
Oh, yeh. The "It's all about me." crowd.
The dude Colion Noir interviewed said he didn’t have time to aim and his red dot got caught on his hoodie. He took his off.
I would believe him if his name didn't meant "a55hole" in my language
Skratt, that darned squirrel. Always causing trouble
"If you're a guy who keeps a blackpowder canon at the top of your stairs... when was the last time you needed that?"
hehe
Canon and cannon are different words with different meanings, genius.
Tally-ho, lads!
Tallly hoooooo
@@slappy8941 English isn't my native language, fuck off
@@noname-oe9jy just as the founding fathers intended
"you, soldier, have you ever gotten shot at?"
"no"
"then why would you wear a plate carrier, you dont need it"
Survivor's mistake
I got shot at as a civilian because I accidentally found a weed field
The Marines in Iraq were complaining about wearing plates because they said it made them slow. 😂
@@JosephShemelewski Narc 🤣
@@SCARFACE69247 if only it was that fun lol
while some folks believe a weapon mounted light is a crucial necessity, it still tends to have your muzzle point at people and things you may *not* want to destroy.
Things that happen anyway in a self defense situation for 100, Alex.
@@DFVaun Really? Where did you get that factoid?
I think this is exactly what he was talking about, he's not saying that using a flashlight period is pointless, he's saying that it's far better to use a handheld flashlight over a weapon-mounted one. I'd certainly prefer to hear someone trying to break into my house, go down stairs, and point just a flashlight at my teen daughter trying, and failing, to quietly sneak into the house, as opposed to pointing a gun at her head for however long it takes to ID her. This just seems like the Internet being the Internet and assuming and spreading an opinion without any context on or knowledge of what they're talking about
@@destinpatterson1644I mean you CAN have both ya know? Use the handheld to identify the possible threat assess the situation and throw down your light and draw if you need to. That’s kinda the issue with just relying on one or the other you close yourself off from having that option when in reality you can just have both and still be pretty darn effective
What surprises me about the Ken thing, is the Army has a saying, "Better to have and not need than to need and not have." I think that says it all.
Flatly applying that phrase to a weapon's accessories would logically result in TactiCool abominations.
There has to be some moderating rationale controlling WHAT things you have but don't need, or you just wind up having everything.
Which brings us back to the beginning, determining if each individual thing is beneficial or not.
Well he said they are massivly overrated, no that you shouldn't use them or that they aren't useful, and to be fair, in most scenarios you are not gonna have to turn that thing on so I don't get why the gun community is acting like they just got tread'ed on. If he would have said that they are completely useless and a gimmick or anything like that I would understand. Same with the reddot. He said that on short distances it doesn't make a diffrence which he clearly has a point but didn't say anything about them being useless or worse then irons. (Unless brandon clipped it out then I blame him) I'm guessing the gun community just needed someone to laugh at and he was the victim since none of the arguments made against his statement really have any relevance to what he is saying.
Those damn squirrels at it again
@PurgeTimejoin a gym
The squirrels have made their first move... keep your eyes on the trees boys. They're coming for us😅
Then we should definitely protect our nuts.
They do through stuff at you when I go deer hunting they are always dropping stuff on my head
Lights and dots add size weight and price. Program compliance is top priority.
1:14 "whens the last time you needed it?" That's a very familiar argument ive heard from people that don't like guns in the first place
Because he's a fudd. That's why
My literal first thought.
Yep. When was the last time the vast majority of people who conceal carry legitimately NEEDED that gun? They didn't. That doesn't change the fact that for the one time when you DO need it, its damn sure better to have it at the ready. Something along the lines of better to have and not need than to need and not have...
Just tell them that you don't need an abortion either
It's a common argument from people who don't like any subject. I've heard, 'when's the last time you *really* needed it' from uni students about condoms, designated drivers, the police non-emergency number, the roadside assistance number, and rather a really lot of *other* common-sense things they felt the need to argue against.
Unlike Florida Cops, our favorite Congressman doesn’t get spooked by an acorn #akgnotificationsquad
@PurgeTime Bro why are you advertising your garbage channel 🤣
@PurgeTimeWe are not on your channel, so get outta here with your crap!! Let's go Brandon!!
@PurgeTimejokes on you. I am both disagreeing and fatherless, and that's for his own safety
@PurgeTime Go for a walk, lose some pounds, then talk
@PurgeTime alright dnc shill
A certified "Stop resisting" moment.
acorns always resist.
The rule for the light is the same as the rule for the gun with me. I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.😂😂
exactly
Essentially this, though if you are not in draw competition with the bad guy, i would still use separate flashlight on supporting hand to have the light bit on the side of the firing line so case perp actually fires towards light it has higher chance of missing if his accurate shooter... then again most perps can hit for shit unless its point blank range so this might cause more issues with twiched shots. Specially if you are right handed just like perp there is tendency to pull trigger and hence gun right, so leftie technically has advantage in this one against rightie. For dot..i always think its just another thing to catch into things well as in dark potentially revealing your location, but while its off that is not a issue and for close range you do get kinda window for some what accurate shots, specially good if you are like me who cant see the iron sights that well. With scope or dot no issue but lining the shot with irons is very difficult for me.
The only thing I can say against gun lights are if you’re not looking at the right spot or coming down a hallway with it you are giving your position away a bit more then if you didn’t have one but I can see in a lot of self defense scenarios that you’re much better off having one so you have that option to use then not having one
Same principal as a condom.
I lost it at the “dramatic recreation” of the falling acorn 😭😭😭
This falls under the 'Everyone's got an opinion' category. He's entitled to his opinion.
This doesn't mean the rest of us have to share or follow it.
I'm waiting to see them install an 'Assault Acorn Ban', limiting trees to a maximum of 10 nuts (Or less).
'And now the trees are all kept equal
With Hatchet, Axe, and Saw.'
"Why would anyone ever need more than 5 acorns on their tree?"
Limit the city to 10 nuts or less.
DC.
@@Tumbleflop
Uhm,,, ravenous squirrels need to eat, too?
;-)
"Acorns can smash your skull into pieces." -Joe Biden
Acorns and plastic forks are becoming a real problem 😂😅
The police is progressively less stressed every year thanks to people like you, Mr. H, thank you ❤
I like how his partner asked where, there? And just started blasting the car without even getting a clear answer 😂
Not the person I want to be a cop... Definitely the person I'd want to be my partner though 😂
@@timothychartier yeah, I'd like to see better PID from a cop, especially a higher ranking officer, but at the same time, if I'm in a gun fight, I want people who can think for themselves and at least suppress the general area I'm supposedly being engaged from.
My immediate thought was: "Well, how else can I melt the retinas of a house intruder at night?"😂
wit 1.5 MEEEEELLION lumens on de end of mai gun!
Imagine not owning an infinite supply of M84s
Murthy’s law of combat 27: Tracers work both ways
Duct tape a newer vehicle to your gun. Those LED headlights will give you an x-ray
Even better if it's got disco mode.
Paul Harrel in his "Top 5 tools for Concealed Carry" video... (I think that's the title) said it best. The gun mounted light should be in ADDITION to a stand-alone flashlight rather than INSTEAD of. There are far more scenarios where you need to point a light at something without having to point a gun at something. The example he used in his video was leaving a restaurant at night and seeing someone crouched by your car. Rather than point your gun light, and by extension your gun, at him you simply shine you flashlight. 99.99% of the time, the guy dropped his wallet or keys or whatever and can't find it. On the off chance he does mean you or someone else harm, you are in a position where you have the drop on him, likely scaring him out of action or now being in a position to shoot him should the situation escalate.
Right, but now I'm already holding a flashlight. Why would I want to drop that one and activate one on my gun when I can just draw the gun, keep the light on the other guy, cross my wrists and use the light the old-school way? If I was going into certain combat, sure, I'd take a gun-mounted light, but not for every day carry as a civilian. Too heavy and makes the draw slower for me. Plus, how many people do you think actually check the batteries in their gun light? Also, I'm with the guy on iron sights. Red dot means you have to put your eye in the same spot behind the pistol every time to accurately aim. Otherwise, the dot is off to the side and nowhere near the point of impact. With irons, I can line them up without my eye being directly behind them. Great for making shots while lying down or from tight positions. plus, if I get dirt or sweat or blood or something in my right eye, I can just use my left without throwing the point of impact off. Although, I don't know what he's talking about when he's saying inside 10 yards. I've never needed to use the sights that close up with my 1911 non-A1. The A1-type mainspring bulge makes me shoot high, but the WWI model I carry is so pointable. Point at the target with your index finger along the side of the gun, then reach down and pull the trigger. Ding. I'd probably still hit a person-sized target with an A1, but I usually go an inch or two over the 10" plate I use to practice when I try to point that one. I use the sights over 20-25 yards, which is why I like the thin blade on the WWI sights. Modern iron sights just block my view of the target at that distance.
Some people in here don't seem to understand the difference between using a firearm for personal protection, and using a firearm to clear houses doing door to doors in Fallujah. The scary part is they go straight for "Fallujah" instead of "my home where my wife and kids live".
They're like a bunch of bobblehead muppets trying to justify playing army man with real guns.
@@notsure7874 I fully agree on this one. The way I see it there are two types of people who buy guns for self-defense. The type who buys a gun praying they never have to use it, and the type who buys a gun and wakes up every morning hoping someone fucks around enough to find out.
What sucks is that we see more and more of the second type nowadays.
@@FuckGoogle502 Yeah, I agree with pretty much all of this, and it also brings up another reason why I carry a separate light. I actually use my flashlight. I know its battery isn't dead from sitting unused in a holster for 6 months. My irons won't run out of batteries either.
I'm not going to drop my EDC light generally speaking, I'm going to use the hand cross. But I might switch to a weapon light if its convenient.
Nevermind the keyboard operators talking shit about "one handed" shooting. Hand cross is stabilized too, just not as much maybe as a two handed grip. Also, in case any of these donut destroyers are reading this - I can shoot one handed just fine, in either hand. Because I train, and because I don't have weak arms / hands. Oh, and also because I don't have 30 pounds of extra bullshit on my pistol too.
@@larryswiston2140 Ya man, then they'll call you a boomer for not living in paralyzing fear, ready to draw at the drop of an acorn...
These idiots are literally the same as the cop they're making fun of here.
7:19 the deliverer from fallout four is a nice touch
In the course I did with a retired marine DI, the argument was it is better to carry a handheld flashlight that you can manipulate separately. Advantage being that if someone shot at the light you wouldn't be behind it. But that involves holding the flashlight further out with a cross arm brace like on the cover of his book and it means that your single hand skills would need to be on par.
Both
@@mav.- This is a factor that too many people are overlooking. It's a crime to brandish a weapon needlessly in public, it's a felony to point a loaded one at someone that isn't an immediate threat.
Concealed weapons are used in an immediate crisis once you have already identified a threat, and in an immediate crisis you don't have time to be fumbling with secondary controls. If you're in the dark and you need to ID something you absolutely cannot see at all, a pocket flashlight is a far superior tool (and they're generally more powerful than pistol lights too.)
Right. It's not don't have illumination argument, but rather that you are wasting money on a weapons light feature when a handheld is the better tactical solution anyway. Of course how many people carry a flashlight or have it as part of their EDC vs just having the weapons light. You definitely need to train, have a plan and be disciplined with your setup. And definitely take a force on force training class. Your perspective and mindset changes when the paper targets are shooting back at you.
@@stevem4783Glad someone mentioned this. I would much rather have a separate flashlight over a WML on a handgun.
@@Borderline5440until it comes to reloading, anyways.
I first heard about that acorn incident from my mom, and the way she explained it, I couldn't help but crack up. That's legit some Naked Gun shit.
Living in South Africa, my gun light gets used more than candles during load shedding (rolling blackouts)
Sadly that checks out.
This was legit one of the funniest shots in terms of political stunts I've seen in a hot minute
@PurgeTime look out, someone made 2 gmail accounts and knows basic python... script kiddie
for the weapon light for my home defense absolutely for carrying no.
and as always that smooth sdi plug nicely done
please keep supporting Paul Harrell and his brother Roy, people. :-)
Roy is improving fast. In his first video he was so stiff and awkward but now he’s much more natural.
My favorite saying for everything from videogames to sports “better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it”
Brandon: "Which video would you like to see next??"
Everyone: "Yes"
Yes
As an Australian, the closest I can weigh into this is as a security guard. I can attest to the power of a flashlight.
Acting like you’re a fictional thing? If you’re restating your consent to be kept as a slave until death with that behavior…why not stay out of character unless consent to joke/practice has been gained?
@@bunk95 someone forgot their meds
@bunk95 what?
I knew an STL cop who never carried a gun mounted light. He used his flashlight and held it away from his body so if a bad guy was using it as a target, he'd most likely be safe. Seemed like sound logic to me.
This also comes from the old (and modern days in Florida and Louisiana) of carrying hurricane lantern to the side so it gives you better light spread. There was practical positioning and the lantern being off to side rather than in front like most people cause people aiming at the light to shoot arm length off center mass. So much gun counter and squad room lore around how to carry your light. Just be thankful the days of The "6 D cell" Mag Lights are in the past..... The were bright, they made great a melee weapons(one head hit and lights out for the receiver) but they were heavy and battery change always hurt the wallet. Now that said, if you need to re-pounded in railroad spikes(could be an emergency fix from train robbers needed back then), to fix the track your could use that mag light with out fear of hurting it....
In exchange for moving the light away from your body, you give up some stability of stance and two handed control of the firearm. Would you rather prioritize tricking a threat into shooting you in the hand instead of the chest, or putting fast and accurate fire on target so the threat never gets a chance to shoot you at all?
@@1retiredknight I mean... you can't always be faster. Just the law of averages. It also probably depends on the context of violence. A cop is often going into a place with no prior SA of the place full of bad guys. Most civilians aren't operating under that context.
@@Nate-lq8jc If your are simply scanning your surroundings, that should never be done with a weapon light. A weapon light is for final verification of the threat and a clear foreground and background before firing.
@@1retiredknight amen!
“Got me a Horosan!” I spit my drink out on that one!!! 😂😂😂👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
Every time Brandon seamlessly segues from the topic of discussion to getting my gunsmithing license at SDI I crack a smile and say "You crafty bastard" as I like the video.
“When was the last time you needed your weapon light?” When was the last time you NEEDED your sidearm?
During the acorn debacle, Scott from Kentucky Ballistics makes a brief appearance in the form of his body building alter ego during the crawling scene. The voice is unmistakable lol
Scooters day on the force lol
"Meming our way into office." Funny, and true.
I got pulled over when I was 19 for expired tags and the cop asked me to come sit in his car while he wrote me a ticket
A acorn fell on top of his car from the tree above and I jumped thinking someone tossed a rock at his car.. well with out flenching and still typing the ticket he said “acorn”
True chad moment right there apparently
Dam you lucky you didn't get shot!
Its been a while bro
You Still doing alright?
Why would you sit in a cop car while he was writing you a ticket? Do you live in Canada?
Very odd he asked you to sit in the car. Over something bogus to begin with too 💁♂️
@@thatbuelldude189 yes sir how you been??
4:57 I can see where the guy is coming from.
Lights and extra sights add bulk to the weapon and extra weight and maintenance requirements, all this on a Concealed Carry makes it less comfortable and less concealed.
A concealed carry is something you have in case on a need, it is not a tactical weapon that you are using as a tool that is expected to be used.
Unless you have really good batteries and the light etc automatically turns on in the dark or something the likelihood that you actually use it even if you have it is as small hopefully as the need to use it.
Just order batteries every 6 months and it will always be ready. Amazon makes that easy
From the clips in this video I took what he said as a kind of, "Don't focus and stress on getting a red dot and light". Maybe it isn't what he means but hes around that age that promotes learning how to shoot your gun well. A 300$ glock will serve you well in most cases without 600$ worth of accessories.
I used to carry a Glock 19 with a TLR7, it's not that deep, the light isn't noticeable on the gun after you use a couple mags, the TLR7 has a disconnect so battery life is a very long time, and it's super easy to click on as you raise the gun, it's about as hard as disengaging a safety on a more standard handgun.
I carry a Jericho 941 now because it's just a better handgun than the Glock in my eyes, but it doesn't have a rail, I do miss my light
Think Ken means people are worried about optics and mounts rather than getting used to the gun. The attachments are useless if you never train.
“I am coming for dat azz Tony” 11:15
By far the best quote of the season
Guns with weapons lights are useless until you’re standing in the ozarks and hear a mountain lion
I used to live in the foothills of the Ozarks...... I'm more worried about the methheads
Statically speaking humans are far more dangerous than wild animals. That being said I've never had an encounter with a desperate hungry mountain lion.@@74bajatom
@@74bajatom what's the diffrence ?
Mountain lions aren't as annoying or dangerous@@ealtar.
@@ealtar Mountain lions are smarter
I kind of like the old method of separate light from carry pistol. A flashlight is very useful outside of self defense, strapping a gun to it limits when you can use it.
LOL! Ken sure stirred up some discussion. I’m closer to Ken’s age than Brandon’s. My EDC pistol doesn’t have a light, but about the time Brandon was a toddler I added Ashley Express sights (before the Big Dot and name change to XS Sights). I carry a light - or three. My house pistol, my wife’s 12 gauge - definitely lights. If I was a working cop (I’d NEVER do that; my best buddy retired from that more than a decade ago), I’d have a light and probably a red dot. But for me, it’s draw 1911 (told you I was old), place dot on threat, press trigger until threat is no longer.
I'm with you on this one Brandon. Carry how you are comfortable
My gun light dont have no gun attached ;)
Lights and red dots seem to fall in the category of "It's not there *because* I need it, it's there *in case* I need it"
@AnoneemusNoename see that second part is where we use that magical thing called "communication"
Great gun meme review Brandon! I voted for you yesterday and have been urging others to do so in person and in my posts on the SA Republicans blog. Of the 4 of you running to unseat our incumbent RINO, I would rather have an outsider as our Rep, who will throw elbows instead of rub them. Tony has a lot of money behind him, but I think enough people are tired of him stabbing us all in the back.
Much cleaner ad transition today brandon, very nice
In close combat, I think the old man is referring to that its more effective to rely on physical memory in those close situations, the ones where you're not trying to shoot a bad guy who's using a hostage as a shield. Everything has its purpose. Subjectively, I don't like red dots on pistols because they obscure my field of sight and that red vibrating dot pulls too much focus from my eyes to be able to pay attention to the surroundings outside of that red-dot frame. I love them on rifles, though! :)
carry philosophy: i rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
gun light: you dont need it.
I carry a Coleman Powerhouse Lantern in my support hand kinda like a switch guy on the old railroad. Just that sound from the lantern that it makes could be enough to scare them away. I don't know how to make that sound with letters but here goes ksksksksksks as the propane flows through the mantels 🤣
Did you watch the interview?
The argument against a weapon mounted light is based on the idea of carrying a separate flashlight to be used in tandem with the gun. I'm not saying I agree, I've just heard some people say that it's more versatile and functional.
Thats exactly What Hackathorns DVD was teaching.
you should always have a light separate from your weapon light, in case you need to see something without pointing a gun at it
@@TapRackBang516 Exactly, I carry a little keychain light that's actually super bright, no excuse not to carry it everywhere since it sits with my keys.
That is very much like arguing that you should uninstall the clock function on your cell phone and use only a watch. You don't need two devices that tell time, right?
@@TapRackBang516carry a wml with enough flood and spill and you wont havd to aim it to light up a room 🤷♂️
Just found the perfect video watch while I finish a weeks worth of procrastinated college homework in the last three hours before it’s due
The whole argument about lights for Ken was that in order to shine the light on something and identify it as a threat or not, you're going to have to flag your weapon on potential non-threats. To that I say, if you're light isn't bright enough for you to identify targets while it's pointed at a low ready, then you need a brighter light...
Still tho. Better to carry a flashlight that you don't have to brandish a gun to use.
@@Trent-m6jtook way too long to find this comment. Paul Harrell's conceal carry video hits this well.
@@SawTomEyesMe Yep. And a piece of glass can get covered in mud or dust or paint or pepper spray or get cracked by an unlucky bit of shrapnel. Doesn't seem rugged enough to be a pistol sight.
@@Trent-m6j Well yeah, that goes without saying.
@@Trent-m6j I think it's debatable that modern pistol optics are tough "enough." While it's true that the glass presents a larger surface area and thus a larger chance for visual disruption, don't forget that iron sights can get covered in mud AND I would argue they can be bumped out of zero easier than a screwed down optic... If I was doing an amphibious assault, then sure I'd take the iron sights... but as a joe shmoe who "theoretically" (go ahead and roast me for saying that) won't remove the weapon from under the cover and protection of a garment until right before firing, I don't think that it's that big of a risk.
This cop has the acting skills of Soccer players pretending to get hurt lmao
Red card
The guy has more experience than effectively all of us on this thread. Worthy expert to consider his opinion and then keep doing what you were doing before this video!
@kevinallies1014 what a change of times, you used to carry lighter pistols play with airguns in the streets.. now you can get lit up for throwing an accorn.
@kevinallies1014that’s not a charge they can make stick if you have ANY reason to believe someone might be a threat. There’s no criminal intent in identifying whether they are or not.
@@coryhoggatt7691 Dude, that is 100% wrong and you've said it multiple times, stop. You cannot point a gun at someone and just simply say "well, I didn't know if he was a threat or not", nor can you use a weapon mounted light as an excuse for pointing a gun at someone. It doesn't work like that, the person can absolutely file charges against you, and there's a good chance even if you avoid jail you will lose your gun rights. Don't spread misinformation.
Brandon I appreciate all the work you are doing in congress and I stand with you. If I lived in your district you would have my vote 😎
My thoughts on weapon lights is its something you use when you KNOW you are going into trouble not something you put on a EDC and when doing so it is effective. Kind of like wearing body armor with level 3 and above plates and a ballistic helmet. Its for when things go REAL wrong and you keep it with your gear stash.
On a EDC or a CCW it makes your weapon bigger heavier its another point of failure due to every day wear and tear and it increases the chance of snagging on the draw.
Edit: This does not apply for guns you leave at home to defend your home there is really no real concrete reason not to put whatever you want on those.