Very nice video. I hope that DB and SNCF will revive the Nord-Express at some point. More routes like this are needed so that the aeroplane is not the only option. It also shows how important it is to expand the infrastructure in Germany. Greetings from Hamburg
Wow… it stops in Kehl. There‘s a tram going from Kehl to Strasbourg, no need to stop in Kehl. But probably some politician got their will. But then they don‘t stop once between Berlin and Frankfurt… even though any station between Würzburg and Hannover would allow an easy access to the north-south high speed line. And 400km in 1:45… that‘s SNCF, 6+ hrs for the rest, that‘s Deutsche Bahn.
BRILLIANT - this train means that there will be even more empty seats on the Inter-Europe airlines. Pity though, that on this inaugural journey the Dining Car was not functioning due to technical issues, as for business-class travellers the on-board catering is fundamental. Thanks for posting this most interesting video and I wish SNCF & DB every success with the new service. Much better than a Business Class flight!
It depends on pricing. Not a songle personnwill pay 300 euros 1 week or last minute train from Paris to berlin when airlines offer simular for half the price or even less (50euros)
So So So clean! This station is an example to rest of Paris and to all major train stations and cities in western Europe which seem to have completely given up on basic cleaning and maintenance.
@@plonssWarum? Was sollen solche "Tipps" oder Empfehlungen für andere? Welches Verkehrsmittel man für welchen Zweck verwendet, entscheidet nur EINER: man selbst!
6 hours of travel time between Strasbourg and Berlin ? 1100 km - 396 km (Paris Strasbourg) = 700 km --> 117 km/h of speed average between Strasbourg and Berlin. High speed train really ?
For China is low-speed this 😅. The people will change plane to train when the avg. Speed says between 300 to 400 so the travel time will be close to 3h.
@@ignacionacho4698Difference being that many villages and small towns in Germany make it difficult for DB to build high-speed rails that go a straight path, whereas in China … well, y’know
@AgainstWokeness ah sr I forgot, the ICE from Munich to Amsterdam leaves at around 4pm and reach at around 11pm, that's from Germany side and by now the only direct service
Schön für China. Wenn Sie noch schneller reisen wollen, dann buchen Sie doch einen Flug oder gleich einen in den Weltraum, wenn ihnen 250 km/h nicht reichen.
In China plant man auch anders. Wenn Dein Haus da im Weg steht, wirst Du halt aufs Amt zitiert - und wenn Du zurück kommst, ist Dein Haus weg. Ich weiß nicht, ob ich das will. Für Dein Haus vielleicht, für meines sicher nicht.
Super interesting! Does anyone know if the tariff connection point called Kehl (Gr), i.e. Kehl Grenze or Kehl border appears on international tickets for TGV Paris - Berlin? I believe that these are trains at market prices and not trains for which the legendary international kilometric TCV tariff can be applied. For example, between Italy and France, Modane (Fr) no longer exists and from next Sunday the international tariff of the Tende line will disappear. There are only a few days left to buy the legendary Ci 204 Spec ticket on board FS trains with the northern and southern border points and the stations in French territory indicated
Pretty weird route if u ask me. There even is a more direct route from Frankturt to Berlin via Erfurt Even buildt for speeds up to 300kph Whats even weirder is that the DB app actually shows this route instead of the one you showed in the vid.
Is that service will be also served by SNCF's Avelias (that's international brand of Alstom's HSTs, including TGVs, Pendolinos, etc) or DB's Siemens Velaros?
You can fly between Paris and Berlin within 4 to 5 hours including airports for prices that compete with this train. Not clear what the big advantage is and how it will compete with flying.
If you make a realistic and honest calculation from city center to city center, you will find out it's definitely more than that. And some people might find the train more pleasant and relaxing. Not to mention it's a greener alternative. To each his own. It's good to have alternatives, options and competition.
When you buy 1 of the 2 tickets, you just need to pay extra 4-6 EURO (depends on the class you in) for a seat reservation, which is necessary since these kinds of connection are usually really busy. Ah by the way when you travel to France, Netherlands or Belgium, it should be compulsory
لطف داشتید قطار هنوز نرسیدم .جبر پخش بود عذر خواستند .گفتند از بانک پخش حذف میکنند بازم از شما در پاریس عذر خواستند .بله بیماران در جامعه هستند و ارزوی سلامت برای بازماندگان من بعد طراح هستم و او نه .و او در تناوبی طراح بعدی مکانیک یا فان گرای بعد اتحادیه ترکیب .متاسفانه قبل من پخش شده بودند .
Die neue Verbindung geht auf französischen Wunsch eindeutig über Straßburg! Wieso kündigen sowohl der deutsche Sprecher als auch der französische Sprecher ganz zu Anfang des Films eine Fahrt über Saarbrücken an??? Da hat der gute doc7austin's DreamlinerCentral wohl ein wenig gepfuscht!!! Die Durchsage ist von einer anderen, älteren Verbindung, wahrscheinlich Frankfurt - Paris über Saarbrücken. Ganz schön frech!!!
I'm not a big fan of daytime high speed routes being so long. 8h is ideal to make it a night train, but too long to spend on a seat, and 09h-17h means your entire day is gone. I hate it because my country (Spain) eliminated all the night services, and now the only alternatives available to cross the entire country are either wasting an entire day sitting, or flying.
@@PatrickLeFloch true, good point. But this train doesn't make almost any middle stops either (just 3 stops in a 1100 km long trip) so it's not a big factor here.
A broken dishwasher and a lack of tableware is not an acceptable inauguration standard. The limited dining seating is another poor point for such a long journey. Surely they could add another coach. If they wish to compete they should improve their standards.
No, it isn't. Not even close. There's 200 kmh brand new trains in Serbia and even them are also NOT real high speed trains. Minimum is 250 kmh and anything above, obviously.
عزیزم بله با من ارتباط گرفته بعد رفتنش از ایران نمیتونه خاک اولش رو فراموش کنه بدویه و خواهشا بهش بگو برام کشتی نگیره چون من بشدت فوتوریته هستم .ارتباطتمان هم تلفنیه .به هر حال تاریخشه و در اونجا بازی میکنه .در قطار .
We have to refuel in Europe, Beijing to Shanghai is over 1300km and only takes 4 and a half hours at the fastest! /Wir müssen in Europa auftanken, von Peking nach Shanghai sind es über 1300 km, und wir brauchen dafür nur 4,5 Stunden, wenn wir schnell sind! / Nous devons faire le plein en Europe. La distance entre Pékin et Shanghai est de plus de 1 300 km et ne dure que 4 heures et demie au plus vite !
The fastest real train in the world (non Maglev) is a French bullet train, TGV. They just need to employ the tech of that train that was going almost 600 kmh when tested.
1250 km is like entire Japan from north to south, or maybe entire UK from the northernmost point to the southernmost point. In 8 hours. It's not so slow. Of course with some European bullet trains, like the Italian Freciarossa and some others from France and Spain it and Germany would take like 3 hours. 😊 But sometimes it's more about the tracks than about the trains.
Very nice video. I hope that DB and SNCF will revive the Nord-Express at some point. More routes like this are needed so that the aeroplane is not the only option. It also shows how important it is to expand the infrastructure in Germany.
Greetings from Hamburg
Unbedingt fantatisch for people travelling this route!
I wish they(along with Austria's OBB) will reinstate the Paris-Vienna daylight service - just like the old EC Mozart
did the EC Mozart travel from Berlin to Paris ?
@doc7austin Paris-Vienna
This is absolutely fantastic
Shinkansen have been carrying passengers for 60 years already
@@Hoshikani No one asked. We're in Europe here 😒😒 Only a jobless weirdo replies to comments on other people's videos
@@Hoshikani A bit just for fun.
ABSOLUTELY ABSURD. 8 HOURS AT 320 KM/H IN 1.100KM ????????😱😡😤
I'm looking forward to experiencing this!
Excellent work to produce this and present it to us so soon after it happened, looking forward to part 2.
Wow… it stops in Kehl. There‘s a tram going from Kehl to Strasbourg, no need to stop in Kehl. But probably some politician got their will. But then they don‘t stop once between Berlin and Frankfurt… even though any station between Würzburg and Hannover would allow an easy access to the north-south high speed line. And 400km in 1:45… that‘s SNCF, 6+ hrs for the rest, that‘s Deutsche Bahn.
I think it‘s mandatory for them to stop in the city right before the border(?)
@@wdhyrhrj4414no idk why they do it.
Very nice video. Thank you.
Fantastic!!!very nice😊
BRILLIANT - this train means that there will be even more empty seats on the Inter-Europe airlines. Pity though, that on this inaugural journey the Dining Car was not functioning due to technical issues, as for business-class travellers the on-board catering is fundamental. Thanks for posting this most interesting video and I wish SNCF & DB every success with the new service. Much better than a Business Class flight!
It depends on pricing. Not a songle personnwill pay 300 euros 1 week or last minute train from Paris to berlin when airlines offer simular for half the price or even less (50euros)
Also the flight takes less than 2h, compared to over 8h sitting on a train that's quite attractive.
@@blackmercury956 well it's not like the airplane ticket would be cheaper if we didn't reserve ASAP, so get used to it
@@blackmercury956 The brillant EU forbids to subsidise train services but allows to do so for the air traffic....
Dieser Zug wird das Klima retten
und die 2 gefährlichsten Städte Europas miteinander verbinden. 🕳️🚀🌪️🎉
Thank you so much for this great video. 👍😍
If they done this Through Brussels it would be 5-6 hours for sure
So So So clean! This station is an example to rest of Paris and to all major train stations and cities in western Europe which seem to have completely given up on basic cleaning and maintenance.
that is the result of immigration from the third world
do you think paris est looks so dirty ?
@@doc7austin Paris has become really dirty
Bravo ! My Congratulations .
I believe this is the first time the Velaro D ICE train goes to Berlin in regular scheduled service
For sure
Von Paris nach Berlin fliege ich immer.
Ab jetzt besser mit dem Zug fahren
@@plonss Soviel Zeit habe ich nicht ich bin selbstständig.
@@plonssWarum? Was sollen solche "Tipps" oder Empfehlungen für andere? Welches Verkehrsmittel man für welchen Zweck verwendet, entscheidet nur EINER: man selbst!
fliegen kostet auch viel zeit, insb. an/von paris cdg
@@gerohubner5101 Dafür gibt es einen wichtigen Grund: Um fossile Brennstoffe zu sparen, ist es immer besser, mit dem Zug zu fahren.
6 hours of travel time between Strasbourg and Berlin ? 1100 km - 396 km (Paris Strasbourg) = 700 km --> 117 km/h of speed average between Strasbourg and Berlin. High speed train really ?
vmax in france 320, in germany mostly 160 or 250
this is the first direct daytime train between berlin and strasbourg for several decades; i am happy about that
For China is low-speed this 😅. The people will change plane to train when the avg. Speed says between 300 to 400 so the travel time will be close to 3h.
@@ignacionacho4698 well China rails was new built when Germany was around 20 years so many railway are not yet to take that kind of speed
@@ignacionacho4698Difference being that many villages and small towns in Germany make it difficult for DB to build high-speed rails that go a straight path, whereas in China … well, y’know
VIVE L'EUROPE . L'UNION FAIT LA FORCE ( DEVELOPPEMENT )💪
Just reading the news in fb and bang!
Also waiting for the Munich-Amsterdam, although it runs from 16h to 23h
Today there was an ICE that left Amsterdam CS at around 9am to Munich Hbf
@AgainstWokeness ah sr I forgot, the ICE from Munich to Amsterdam leaves at around 4pm and reach at around 11pm, that's from Germany side and by now the only direct service
Paryž - Berlin - Warszawa - Mińsk ? When ?
In China dauert das unter 4 Stunden für so eine Strecke?
Germany has few high speed line. China has no "ecologists" in the parlement who forbid to build them...
@@bluetrane8052 it's really not the ecologists who are the problem here
Schön für China. Wenn Sie noch schneller reisen wollen, dann buchen Sie doch einen Flug oder gleich einen in den Weltraum, wenn ihnen 250 km/h nicht reichen.
In China plant man auch anders. Wenn Dein Haus da im Weg steht, wirst Du halt aufs Amt zitiert - und wenn Du zurück kommst, ist Dein Haus weg. Ich weiß nicht, ob ich das will. Für Dein Haus vielleicht, für meines sicher nicht.
Wie sie sich wieder alle im Scheinwerferlicht sonnen.
Super interesting! Does anyone know if the tariff connection point called Kehl (Gr), i.e. Kehl Grenze or Kehl border appears on international tickets for TGV Paris - Berlin? I believe that these are trains at market prices and not trains for which the legendary international kilometric TCV tariff can be applied. For example, between Italy and France, Modane (Fr) no longer exists and from next Sunday the international tariff of the Tende line will disappear. There are only a few days left to buy the legendary Ci 204 Spec ticket on board FS trains with the northern and southern border points and the stations in French territory indicated
Nice review.
Grand bravo
Pretty weird route if u ask me.
There even is a more direct route from Frankturt to Berlin via Erfurt
Even buildt for speeds up to 300kph
Whats even weirder is that the DB app actually shows this route instead of the one you showed in the vid.
the BR 407 ICE train is not certified to operate on the Erfurt-Halle high-speed railway line
@@ainonainpg3d799 until next year, they should be certified in later 2025
Is that service will be also served by SNCF's Avelias (that's international brand of Alstom's HSTs, including TGVs, Pendolinos, etc) or DB's Siemens Velaros?
Only ICE 3 neo if I read the right news
@@nonstopnormal666not the 3neo (BR 408), it’s an older version, the “regular” 3 (BR 407/Velaro D).
@@tthep911 oh, that's why. I thought the same look means the same name :v
the ice 3neo is not certified to run in france
@@tthep911 the br407 are not the "regular" ice 3, they're already an upgraded version much more similar to the 3 neo than to the original ice 3
Thank you for traveling with "Deutsche Bahn" 😁😅
exactly my words !
@@doc7austin It s my german humour about ourselves 🤣
It looks like there are a lot of journalists on board
There were also those of Arte? Because it's Franco-German cultural channel with newscast.
yes; we were all sitting in car no. 29, which was reserved for press & media
Average speed (km/h): 156.25km/h is UNREAL!
it is pretty high in my eyes
I think it is shorter to make the journey Paris Nord - Cologne - Dortmund - Berlin, in short, that SNCF and DB can work it out between them.
but with which trainset type ?
Thalys or Dutch 4 systems ICE.
You can fly between Paris and Berlin within 4 to 5 hours including airports for prices that compete with this train. Not clear what the big advantage is and how it will compete with flying.
If you make a realistic and honest calculation from city center to city center, you will find out it's definitely more than that. And some people might find the train more pleasant and relaxing. Not to mention it's a greener alternative. To each his own. It's good to have alternatives, options and competition.
Finally! 😌🥳🎉
5:50 Is this the ICE interior or was it filmed in the TGV? 😮
filmed in two tgv trains, which were parked near our ICE train - did you activate my subtitles ?
Great video. Any idea how much the supplemental fee would be with a first class Eurail or Interrail pass?
When you buy 1 of the 2 tickets, you just need to pay extra 4-6 EURO (depends on the class you in) for a seat reservation, which is necessary since these kinds of connection are usually really busy. Ah by the way when you travel to France, Netherlands or Belgium, it should be compulsory
لطف داشتید قطار هنوز نرسیدم .جبر پخش بود عذر خواستند .گفتند از بانک پخش حذف میکنند بازم از شما در پاریس عذر خواستند .بله بیماران در جامعه هستند و ارزوی سلامت برای بازماندگان من بعد طراح هستم و او نه .و او در تناوبی طراح بعدی مکانیک یا فان گرای بعد اتحادیه ترکیب .متاسفانه قبل من پخش شده بودند .
berlin pas la gare de l est?
8h ????
2 Of my favorite vloggers in the same car at the same time. Yet you never seem to appear in eachothers vlogs 😅
il pranzo non sembra granchè
Gastronomia di DB fa schiffo. Austrici lo fanno meglio!
Bien.hacer tren de pasajeros es combatir la corrupcion.y por el medio ambiente
Die neue Verbindung geht auf französischen Wunsch eindeutig über Straßburg! Wieso kündigen sowohl der deutsche Sprecher als auch der französische Sprecher ganz zu Anfang des Films eine Fahrt über Saarbrücken an??? Da hat der gute doc7austin's DreamlinerCentral wohl ein wenig gepfuscht!!! Die Durchsage ist von einer anderen, älteren Verbindung, wahrscheinlich Frankfurt - Paris über Saarbrücken. Ganz schön frech!!!
die ansage in dem ICE Paris-Berlin war zu leise und kaum zu hören. Aber, hei, Du hast aufgepasst.
Um Saarbrücken herum tuckert der ICE/TGV gerne mal mit Tempo 40. Ich empfinde die Strecke Mannheim-LGV Est immer als unfreiwillige ZEN-Übung.
Much prefer DB interior. SNCF colors are too garish to be pleasing to the eyes. 🫤. Looking forward to part 2 👍🏻
I'm not a big fan of daytime high speed routes being so long. 8h is ideal to make it a night train, but too long to spend on a seat, and 09h-17h means your entire day is gone.
I hate it because my country (Spain) eliminated all the night services, and now the only alternatives available to cross the entire country are either wasting an entire day sitting, or flying.
The challenge with overnight trains is that it serves the extremities quite well, but not the middle stops (few want to board a train at 1am).
@@PatrickLeFloch true, good point. But this train doesn't make almost any middle stops either (just 3 stops in a 1100 km long trip) so it's not a big factor here.
@@osasunaitorFrankfurt is Right in the middle of the journey. It’s a pretty big city too
@@stascht7116 then a night train to Berlin and a day train to Frankfurt would be ideal
Yeah but there are no night carriages available. A day train is better than nothing.
1250km in 8h. Pretty slow for a "high speed" train...
True. If Sapsan makes 700+ from Moscow to St. Petersburg in 3.45 hrs, this shouldn't take more than 6 hrs.
@@kaiserjager2754 Yes and Sapsan top speed is around 270km/h only...
moscow - st. petersburg -> 700 km - really ?
@@doc7austin 680km to be precise..
A broken dishwasher and a lack of tableware is not an acceptable inauguration standard. The limited dining seating is another poor point for such a long journey. Surely they could add another coach. If they wish to compete they should improve their standards.
Und wer bezahlt den Quatsch ? 🎉💰
Deutschland und Frankreich sind pleite. 😢
they cannot add another car to the ICE 3 BR 407;
Paris 😈🌪️🕳️ Berlin 😈🌪️🕳️
BRO, AU BAGAT IN ROMANIA TRENURI DE MARE VITEZA DE 250 KM PE ORA. FORTZA BULLET TRAIN
Where is High speed ? Not in Germany…
Die Flugzeit dauert 1 Std. 50 min., da setze ich mich nicht 8 Std. In den Zug.
150 kmh is not really high-speed
No, it isn't. Not even close. There's 200 kmh brand new trains in Serbia and even them are also NOT real high speed trains. Minimum is 250 kmh and anything above, obviously.
a broken dishwasher - this must be Scholz's fault.
no, it is habeck's fault
Was this yesterday? Timetable change began on 15.12
the timetable change was yesterday, but the first train only departed today
@doc7austin thank you for clarification and Merry Christmas to you and yours
😍
Cc not avalable! Nicht cc...
really - i will check again; subtitles should be available
@doc7austin no problemo. Coll video.
like shinkansen but slower
عزیزم بله با من ارتباط گرفته بعد رفتنش از ایران نمیتونه خاک اولش رو فراموش کنه بدویه و خواهشا بهش بگو برام کشتی نگیره چون من بشدت فوتوریته هستم .ارتباطتمان هم تلفنیه .به هر حال تاریخشه و در اونجا بازی میکنه .در قطار .
That French part is really fat and cool, but the Germany? Too slow for high speed train :(
...defekte Spülmaschine und fehlendes Geschirr bei der Prämierenfahrt: Kann man sich nicht ausdenken.
Typisch Bahn halt !
Auf jeder Autowaschpark Eröffnung ist mehr los. Selbst feiern klappt nicht mehr.
naja, in Paris Est und Strasbourg war schon einiger Rummel um den Zug.
@@doc7austin na, war die Eröffnungsfahrt !
04:50 no humour lost!
We have to refuel in Europe, Beijing to Shanghai is over 1300km and only takes 4 and a half hours at the fastest! /Wir müssen in Europa auftanken, von Peking nach Shanghai sind es über 1300 km, und wir brauchen dafür nur 4,5 Stunden, wenn wir schnell sind! / Nous devons faire le plein en Europe. La distance entre Pékin et Shanghai est de plus de 1 300 km et ne dure que 4 heures et demie au plus vite !
Vom Design eine Farbseuche ...
ice cream
ln China you just need four hours to travel 1250km. Why not employ the tech from China?
The fastest real train in the world (non Maglev) is a French bullet train, TGV. They just need to employ the tech of that train that was going almost 600 kmh when tested.
Why not use the French tech?@@Just_another_Euro_dude
Can't believe Europe is so backward lol.
8 hours to cover 1250 km is rookie numbers now.
Germany needs to wake things up.
1250 km is like entire Japan from north to south, or maybe entire UK from the northernmost point to the southernmost point. In 8 hours. It's not so slow. Of course with some European bullet trains, like the Italian Freciarossa and some others from France and Spain it and Germany would take like 3 hours. 😊
But sometimes it's more about the tracks than about the trains.
Wie viel kostet es? Lohnt es sich im Vergleich zu einem Flug? Preis/ Zeit
too slow
is there any difference btw the 407 and the 408 ?
Well not that much, but some newer 407s got the new interior. You can watch on some channel