27:41 "You talked about my rape for a week in 2020" Gabbies response: "You tweeted i was a shitty person in 2019" are you fucking kidding me right now?
in gabbie's mind, every transgression against her is the worst thing to happen in the universe but anything she does wrong just isnt worth mentioning apparently
The whole she talked about her rape for a week is complete and utter bullshit. Jessi CONSTANTLY weaponizes her trauma to attack Gabbie knowing the damage it will do to her and her reputation
*this phone call in a nutshell:* jessi: speaks for 10 sec gabbie: cuts her off and rambles for 3 min straight jessi: but gabbie, what about- gabbie: don't interrupt me, let me speak, stop silencing me, that's abuse
Idk.. I've never cared for he said/she said drama... but Gabbie literally has every recording, every tweet, every voice message, every email, every text, literally everything that Jessie ever did to Gabbie. She has shown it, it's all proof, and yet people still take Jessie's side. I've put all the pieces together and pieced together their time lines. Gabbie is a hated person, and Jessie is not, so everyone blindly rushed to jessies side. I looked at both their points. Gabbie has done a ton of stupid dumb shit in her life, but she's not a rape apologist and that term is so stupid.
@@aratreyadoesthings4924 I agree she isn't a rape apologist now but she was when it happened to jessi and lied until she had no way of denying it. It was as easy as saying "I fucked up and I've learned from it." but noooo, she immediately denied it until people pulled out screenshots, and continued to deny it until those screenshots were proven to be real, creating more drama. Jessi did nothing there, it was all gabbie's refusal to admit the truth, and she still wanted an apology from jessi as if it was her fault gabbie lied about everything. After she did the podcast callout I lost any respect I had for her, because as they say in the call, jessi wanted to stop talking about it and let the drama die, but gabbie believed headstrong that she deserved an apology, as if she was the victim for something she started. And keeping track of all contact she had with jessi looks like stalker behavior, so I don't think that does anything but damage her own image more.
@@liswane I never thought of it that way. She was for a moment when she made the mistake but she truly did learn from it and stopped... but she should say that. I hope both of them leave each other alone now though.
Gabbie is wrong with the way she thinks, I don't want to be rude to her but... this phone call gave her a chance to redeem her self, Jessi was even at a point saying she'd take her video down but Gabbie fucking ruined her chance when she started being defensive, snd wouldn't admit anything or say sorry or take accountability when certain topics came up, she even had the audacity to instead demand an apology from Jessi, and that is where I slapped my face, like ugh no, come on, she just doesn't get or believe she can be wrong, why the fuck would Jessi take down her video now for you, what are you trying to do, stay on her side, like literally sorry but this wasn't Jessi's fault, your down fall was your fault.
@@sandras2624 no, it's you. She has given so much evidence and proof for y'all but because it proves that your toxic idol is an abuser, you discredit it in order to make your toxic idol I'm the right, even when she's proven to be in the wrong
Nope, not true. They aren't even comparable. Jessi tries to move on all the time and deflect when she's confronted with anything because she doesn't want to face the truth. Gabbie calls this out because Jessi has been doing this same shit for fucking years and Gabbie is done with it
@@robertyeah2259 I'm not going into grave detail (mainly because I genuinely do not have enough time to) but for one, the constant jabs at Gabbie Jessi has done over the years, on various social media platforms, while Gabbie stayed quiet while claiming it was "to get back at you" when in reality, she did it to provoke her knowing the kind of response she would need to talk about Gabbie in a bad light. Her starting the rumor about her being a rape apologist years ago on both her and Jen's account, which she has admitted to making many of those tweets. The various ways Jessi brought up Gabbie to keep the relationship between them public while Gabbie tried to resolve things privately. Jessi, out of the blue due to 1 single DM, makes a video after saying for the longest time they are not on bad terms, completely destroying Gabbie's name and reputation. Lying about multiple things in her video regarding situations with Gabbie including presenting evidence that goes against what she has said while skimming over it to make sure no one could call her out on it not helping her case. There is so much if you truly watched Gabbie's videos where she shows literal proof of the shit Jessi did over the years. There's a lot and I'd rather not waste too much of my own time trying to prove something you will never see as it's not worth the energy I could be putting into something I love (something I'd recommend you doing as well as we will never get anywhere since you can't see the shit Jessi has pulled)
@@celesteworldbuilding There is NOTHING that can be justified on Gabbie's behalf, especially in the situation with Jessi. Using someone else's trauma for attention is the most immature thing I have ever seen a person do. Not only that, Gabbie has had dinner with Jessi's rapist, hung out around him at parties, taken pictures with him, and even conversed with him. At the very start of their friendship, Gabbie was on the wrong end of the situation. Not only was she completely oblivious to the context of the situation, she even replied to Lepore's tweets at the time. She continuously told the story of Jessi's rape over and over for absolutely no reason, even after Jessi asked her to stop. She provoked Jessi to fight with her for literal YEARS. Jessi won't cover the situation with Gabbie anymore but yes, you're right, Jessi tries to move on. She tries to move on because she has a family of her own, work to get done and literally anything else to do. Gabbie is narcissistic, delusional and manic. She needs help. She constantly uses her ADHD as an excuse, thinking it will divert her audiences attention away from her actions because there's an "excuse" for it. The only times Jessi ever replied, fought back or even spoke to Gabbie during that time period was when Gabbie provoked her to. The timeline is laid out right in front of us and you can piece it together, no problem. Don't pin it on Jessi and feed into Gabbie's delusions. It's a pattern for Gabbie to continuously provoke people. She'll be aggressive, demanding - she'll play victim, act all-knowing and paint the reactions of the people she provokes as bad. It happened with Jessi, it happened with RiceGum, it even happened with Trisha. Every single time, SHE provokes the fight, she continuously pokes at people and when she is met with a reaction, suddenly the other person is the aggressive one and THEY are the ones who provoked HER. I don't know how anyone can support Gabbie anymore - it's right in front of you - why she's a delusional brat that cries when she doesn't get her way. You need to look at the entire timeline to see the pattern and narcissistic behaviors.
@@bamstrz I can't tell if you're delusional, easily manipulated, or both. I'm not even gonna go into the depths of why you're simply telling a false narrative cause it isn't worth my time, but seeing you go all this way to continue to spread this false narrative shows the amount you're willing to go to ruin someone's career over your toxic idol having a falling out with someone years ago. Get the fuck off the internet and grow the fuck up, jesus.
1:26:40 gabbie starts crying talking about how the worst thing you can be called next to a rapist is a rape apologist literally to the victim of the rapist for whom she apologized. Groundbreaking.
The fact that Jessi can own up to what she’s done wrong and say that it was messed up for her to do while Gabby can’t even admit to ANYTHING she’s done is absolutely infuriating. She would be impossible for anyone to talk civilly with and I’m impressed Jessi entertained this for three hours without becoming completely overwhelmed
@@brandenclark1485 owned up to what exactly? She said sorry then said it didn’t happen and she never did the thing she was sorry about like the tweets. She can move on nobody is holding her back, but it will be hard because she didn’t change…the real her always ruins things for herself.
@@chlorinelori1064 she owned up to making tweets and being toxic at times. She has changed but people won't allow her to move on. When she tries to, people just drag her right back into some other bullshit drama
@@brandenclark1485 well if she stopped bringing Jessie up for almost an entire year straight taking about her rape, and calling Jessie a narcissistic abuser. Yea I would lose my shit too.
I personally really appreciate Jessi changing her apology from "I'm sorry if you felt..." to "I'm sorry that that hurt you" I think that was really mature of her
What would've been straight up mature was "I'm sorry," nothing else afterwards. If she truly was sorry, she wouldn't need to add the "if you felt," or "that hurt you" afterwards, but she clearly isn't sorry.
@@celesteworldbuilding I understand what you're saying٫ really I do٫ but I do think she really was sorry. She did still try to make excuses after that٫ but I do think she was on the right track with her apology.
@@coolstorybro6553 I just wish that. of Jessi was truly sorry, there would be no need to the anything extra on the end. Most people who give sincere apologies just flat out say they're sorry and what they did that warranted the apology instead of tagging something at the end or making an excuse afterwards.
@@celesteworldbuilding I mean you're not wrong. But I think the reason she was making excuses was because at that part of the phone call they were both at each other's throats a lot and they were both trying really hard to defend themselves which made Jessi feel like she needed to keep talking. Especially because Gabbie interrupted her a lot so I think she was just talking for as long as she could before Gabbie interrupted again😅
@CoolStoryBro Well Gabbie had reason to stop Jessi from talking at certain parts. She didn't want Jessi to get away with certain lies so she was like, "hey, this isn't true and I'm gonna call you out for it"
@@randompersonn4 You need help. That's how society has always been. Look down upon those who are hysterical because they're going through shit and might exaggerate things. It's literally the easiest explanation out there. Nomal people don't look past that as a possible option for what's going on. Get some serious help you dimwhit.
@@celesteworldbuilding That may be true but it CLEARLY isn’t the case here, which is why you’re delusional. Or maybe Gabbie on a second account… I wouldn’t be surprised with the way you sound.
@@randompersonn4 All you Gabbie haters can do is call Gabbie fans who defend and support her, her. Why can't you just admit she has fans that know she's in the right? Oh wait, it's because you always want to take the SA victims side, even when she hurts others. Also, the whole hysteria thing IS the case here. Jessi keeps herself calm to sound like the more reasonable one so when Gabbie gets upset with Jessi LYING to her face in broad daylight, it makes Gabbie seem crazy. And if anyone is delusional, it's clearly y'all defending an abuser who hides behind her SA (wouldn't even be surprised if y'all didn't know what delusional truly meant)
It kind of makes me laugh that Gabbie said “you’ll hear me apologising to jessi smiles very many times in the phone call” when in reality she didn’t say sorry once, she just dances around everything. About 45 minutes in where they’re talking about Gabbie calling the situation R Drama, she says “it was bad semantics” or “it wasn’t my intention” never once does she actually say “I’m sorry for doing that”. Also I love how she thinks she’s so smart and yet half of the big words that come out of her mouth are used completely wrong 😂😂😂
Why should she have to apologize to her abuser for absolutely no reason? She's already apologized publicly, what more does her abuser need? Also, Jessi absolutely deserves to apologize to Gabbie after the shit she put her through. Fucking abuser shithead hiding behind a pregnancy and SA... "Also I love how she thinks she’s so smart and yet half of the big words that come out of her mouth are used completely wrong 😂😂😂" give one word she used wrong
that's surprisingly common in people with her diagnoses tbh, but usually only in people who aren't getting the treatment they need for their low self-esteem which tends to be the cause of that behavior
@@the-birbo This isn't true... the fuck are these assumptions just because people like someone you don't? None of my friends are like this (trust me, I've been around them for years) and they still genuinely believe her side. If you continue to support Jessi, even with all of the evidence of her abuse that has come out, get the fuck off the internet and seek legitimate mental health with the way you defend an abuser
You can tell Gabbie just loves to have control over the conversation at all times and as soon as she starts to lose it she changes the subject. It saddens me to see her like this because i used to be a fan of her videos. What she has done to Jessi is terrible and the fact that she is forcing and pressuring Jessi to apologize constantly throughout this phone call makes me sick. Gabbie's best bet would be to make a video apologizing and owning up to everything she has done that has hurt the people around her. That's the only way I could ever become a fan again... sorry Gabbie
Okay, you were never a true fan of Gabbies. Secondly, What Gabbie has done? Oh please, cry me a manipulative river why don't ya. Jessi NEEDS to apologize to Gabbie after all the abuse she put Gabbie through over the years. Gabbie didn't try to take control of anything, she was making sure Jessi didn't lie about anything and kept exposing her lies constantly which Jessi tried to get ahead of but failed at miserably.
I think Gabbie contacted Curtis after she fell out with Jessi- not to catch him out in a lie, but to ‘catch’ *her* in a lie. She’s already said she knew someone who was falsely accused and she hated the woman who accused him and has gone behind her back to ‘expose’ her before. It makes no sense that fresh after a falling out when she got hateful and spiteful that she’d suddenly want to run to the rescue, she isn’t so noble.
@@amirahazhar4192 it’s a vey immature and frightening interaction. Gabby has no empathy for someone that was her friends r-pe. Everything is for attention and views. Unfortunately Gabby has a personality disorder tht has clearly gone untreated and she’s probably in denial or she has no idea. She’s clearly not understanding or have compassion skills. Yikes!!! Also. How childish when they talk about controlling relationships…. Jessie had a BF. And Gabby is on the floor asking for attention. Then Jessi seems to have matured some. But the one interaction when both girls take each other’s BFs. And display animosity for one another? How can they not realize all this!??? WOW. Scary shit. Social media sucks.
Gabbie is so manipulative and abusive in this. Her narcissism is really scary. Jessi has so much patience, though I do wish Jessi would just hang up on her nonsense.
This! Gabbie is scared and mad that she’s being exposed for who she is and is grasping for anything she can to try and intimidate and back Jessie into a corner!! Ugh I hate her so much she’s such a narcissist and a literal maniac
@@cmitch5598 the fact that she continuously brings up Jesse's trauma and is so disgusting and vile when she speaks about it almost triggers me and my trauma because I could never imagine what it would feel like for Jesse to have the whole world talkin about her trauma something so devastating and so personal and Gabbie airs it out like it's a fucking Olympic sport and it is absolutely horrid. ..And the fact that Gabby tried to use Curtis as some character witness on her behalf just shows how insanely vapid Gabby is and for her to call everyone she falls out with uneducated and stupid she really really does not have any self-awareness or situational awareness at all and if it was not such a horrific topic it would be comedy gold.
@@cmitch5598 the craziest part of that entire phone call to me is when Gabby acts totally surprised that the rapist tried to blackmail her and that the rapist isn't an honest person she literally acts like she just can't believe Curtis would try and blackmail her like girl the rapist is not a nice guy 😯 SURPRISE SURPRISE..... 😭😭 like what the fuck is wrong with her LOL
@@a.c.knowsnothing you’re absolutely right!! It’s so triggering because this is what bullies and narcissists have done to us (I’m assuming you as well since you said you had trauma too) our whole lives! It’s so insane to me that she has people backing her in this. She’s absolutely a vapid narcissist and she’s shitting the bed so hard that she’s trying to pull up any last stops she can. Hence why she repeatedly brings up lawyers, private investigators, screenshots, witnesses, etc. she’s doing anything she can to redeem her image and proving she’s the victim. When In reality she is hounding the ACTUAL victim to the point of tripping her up and cornering her, to where Jessi doesn’t even know how to defend herself. The fact that gabby so casually speaks about her interaction with Curtis like it wasn’t wrong is insane to me. And then continues to blame Jessi! Like what is wrong with her?! She’s openly talking about how horrible she did Jessi and still trying to make herself sound like a victim. It’s so sickening. She’s talking all this bullshit about tweets and subtweets meanwhile she’s a fucking rape apologist and has done wayyyy more disgusting things than a fucking subtweet. She couldn’t get over those damn tweets as if that holds anything actually in her favor. It’s giving delusional and scared of being exposed.
@@cmitch5598 one thing that is so funny to me and all of the interactions that she has with Jessie she has the biggest issue with Jesse saying that she's a bad person or a backstabbing friend and is she think she's going to take that into a courtroom and someone's going to find some in her favor like is she crazy she does realize that yes even Jesse has a freedom of speech and that's saying somebody is a shity person is not a criminal offense lol 🤣🤣🤣 and Gabi sure knows how to pick fights and who to pick fights with because she would never say that shit to somebody that was not afraid of catching an assault charge I will guarantee you that she knows Jesse won't lay a hand on her which is why she says it but if she ran across somebody that is not afraid of going to jail she would be so quite you could hear a pin drop. 💯💯
Gabbie has had this problem for many years. Plenty of her old friends that are no longer friends with because of this problem. I believe Jessi. She's not the type to lie. Mind you guys Jessi was pregnant this whole time. This was so very stressful for her to talk about and go through. Why would she lie??
That’s such a great point- why would Jessi choose or plan to put herself thru this stress when pregnant w her rainbow baby? Gabbie’s rationale there was alarmingly delusional
jessi never lied. and she had the facts. i’ve dug deep and jessi is correct. gabbie is a complete liar with everything. and she’s a narcissistic bitch. period end of storyz
She is the type to lie, the type to change the narrative to benefit her. And I am so sick and tired of people using the excuse of her being pregnant to make her this angel or innocent person when for years she openly abused a woman she deemed her friend years ago before having a falling. Fuck Jessi and her using her pregnancy as a shield to attack Gabbie
1:20:18 proves everything about who jessi is trying to give helpful advice to gabbie to help turn this around, & encouraging her she can do it. i’m inspired by her.
23:20 actually fucking infuriates me “Jessi you’re deflecting” Um no she was literally proving Gabbie dead wrong and she cannot handle that so GABBIE deflected by gaslighting Jessi into believing she’s deflecting. Jesus Christ, no wonder Jessis so sick of this shit
Nope... just nope... Jessi was truly deflecting as she couldn't face the truth so she decided to deflect and Gabbie called her out on it. Nice defending an abuser
@@celesteworldbuilding bro why are you in every single comment thread with TWO ACCOUNTS replying to everyone with no proof to back up anything youre saying like imagine calling a rape victim an abuser because thats what your fav said and then admitted she lied.
@@doubledee7283 First and foremost, if you're talking about the Branden Clark account, that first account I was using to reply I used literal months ago, because it was made way BEFORE this account ever existed. Secondly, ALL YOU CAN DO IS REPLY TO ME WITH NO PROOF, what the fuck are you on about? The literal projection from this one I tell you.... Imagine siding with an abuser just because she was a rape victim as if she couldn't become an abuser herself and using her rape to defend her abusive behavior.... couldn't be me sis, couldn't be me.
23:20 this part is extremely infuriating. not only does gabbie interrupt her, but she continuously talks over her and then says that jessi never listens and it's impossible to work with her. gabbie is one of the most scary influencers. she holds onto every piece of information, but interprets it in a way that paints herself as the victim and uses it against others. no wonder she has like no more influencer friends. she's not brand safe.
How can‘t Gabbie see her own hypocrisy? She says the rape apologistic tweet was just up for a short time, therefore not valid and justifying enough for calling her a rape apologist, though when jessi says, that the tweet about being a shitty person was up for an hour it‘s the most horrific thing that she did to gabbie and worth starting a shitstorm against jessi
if gabbie just simply said. Yes i did defend a rapist I did lie about not defending him because I was afraid of the backlash. I did provide a fan with personal info about jessis medication and Lie about the situation to try to prove i did not defend a rapist. None of this would have happened but gabbie loves getting on her delusional ass, and deliberatly hurt people
Gabbie is so aggressive and pushy. She doesn’t let Jessi speak and pretty much blames everything on Jessi when in reality gabbie is just scared shitless and mad that she’s going to be exposed. This is her last reach for control to try and turn the tables back on Jessi. She’s trying to make Jessi seem like the one in the wrong in any possible way she can. She’s reaching for straws and failing.
@@imrebeccap because Gabby thinks the world revolves around her and she feels triggered by everything. Anything said about her because deep down she knows that she did a shit ton of stuff to hurt everybody and before anybody has the opportunity to call her out, even if it’s just vague, she will go on the offense to protect her image, because she would rather take the chance of it not being about her, but her part of the story being out, then ignoring something that could potentially hurt her carefully curated narrative
i think it’s actually fucking CRAZY that gabbie released this thinking that it would make her look better? or look good in anyway?? people throw the word “delusional” around a lot, but this is actually delusional. the amount of manipulation gabbie does in this call makes it physically hard to listen to.
the most important thing to a narcissist, is their image. their appearance. how the world perceives them. & they will fight to the death to maintain it.
i dont even know this people at first when i stumble in this video. I think this Gabbie should just STFU. Then after watching this and research everything about this ( I was bored and became curious ). I still really feel Gabbie needs to STFU. Its not your story, not your trauma, and your not even part of all those things that happened. Gabbie F up and dont want to admit it. Why?? she just wants to be always right. Delulu😅 The amount that i spend my time to research this is alot but i dont regret it. Now i learned how to see and avoid this type of people in my life. Thanks to the psychology books i read for this. To Jessie if you might read this. Praying for your success on your new podcast with your friend Lily. You got a new follower here😊🎉
Gabbie sounds like *that* manager at work. The one that wants to drag you for things that literally aren’t your fault and when you explain that they go “😃yeah so that’s great but-😃😃“ and reiterates that you should’ve been better
I just don’t understand how Gabbie can state all these sources then when Jessi talks about certain instances can invalidate it by saying “why are we talking about this in 2020?” Uh… also why couldn’t she give evidence? Why would he lawyer need to okay her giving screenshots to Jessi? What harm would it do to give it to her if she wasn’t going to pursue legal action anyways? So confused
I don’t think she actually has a lawyer. Or she has one of those lawyers that will just do whatever you want and charge you a shit ton of money to write letters knowing full well this will never go to court, because no lawyer in their right mind will take on a case like this, in this instance, and I know because I’ve tried before, and I had real valid evidence with proper threats and everything, and I still got turned down And was asked to go to the police instead which I did, Gabby has nothing she can actually utilize in court, so threatening her with that is a very classic narcissistic tactic for you to be afraid, and to do whatever they want you to do, which we clearly heard in this phone call, but this is why this never went to court. Gabby has an entertainment lawyer, I assume he told her to cut it out, so she went public and did the interview and all this other crap at the phone call and the podcast yet claiming that she spoke to her lawyer, which she most likely did, but she’s not honest about the answer that she got so she’s telling half truths in order to scare Jesse Which again is a very common tactic to abuse and bully someone into doing what you want
@@breemystic this whole call was Gabbie doing damage control? If she doesn't want drama why provoke it by speaking on it constantly publicly and privately.
Literally every 5 seconds Gabbie opens her mouth it just frustrates me!!!! And near the beginning gabbie says 'let me speak' but speaks over Jessie constantly and ignore her when she's asks to let her speak!
2:17:00: (jessie stating the fact that gabbie finds it super offensive that people call her a r**e apologist) jessie: "... but you WERE (a r-apologist). y'know what i mean?" gabbie: "but i ALSO WASEN'T, jessie" gabbie my brain hurts.
I don’t generally pay attention to TH-cam at all. Not creators at least. I used to keep it solely to Jenna Marbles because she [used to be] one of the least problematic creators. And from what I understand - she and Julian are still get unproblematic creators and I LOVE that about them. I love Jenna and Julian. The thing about Gabbie is…I used to watch her videos when she first started out and she seemed just as problematic back then. She seemed very narcissistic. She seemed like an immature, naive, manipulative individual. I understand why people are drawn to her because she puts herself on with this persona that people love her so much they have to hate her. It’s weird. When the videos about Gabbie breaking down her behavior say she didn’t grow with her audience…she didn’t. She stayed in that high school, Vine mentality. And she thinks the narrative is against her. Gabbie is against Gabbie. She is the ONLY TH-camr I have followed (not subscribed to but followed the drama) to see if peoples eyes will open up. But they haven’t. Many people still follow and support this narcissist as though she’s innocent; as though she hasn’t made the lives of so, so many people miserable. And when people start cutting her out and telling the truth, she’s the victim.
Ever seen GH on Jenna's & Juliens podcast from years ago? She was overtly flirting with Julien and you can see him and Jenna making eyes at each other like "I'm uncomfortable, let's get her out of here".
I honestly think at this point people follow her in order to not miss out on any drama should happen, I highly doubt that every single person that follows her does so for good intentions. Also, I will never forget the last video that Jesse made where she predict that that Gabby was gonna go apeshit on. TikTok scaring her fans so she can release new music and that’s exactly what she did. She is a scary person to have a platform and I just think people are watching Her, as they would watch a car wreck. They don’t watch it because they enjoy it, it’s just grotesque and shocking and remind them of the fact that their life isn’t so bad and also keeps reminding them to stay away from the toxic people in their old life, because regardless of how triggering it is, they can just turn off the TV or their phone, where in real life you can always do that. For some people, it’s also comforting, if you grew up around abuse like this, watching drama that reminds you of it is almost like a safe space. I used to watch the real housewives, for example with all the yelling And the nastiness, because that was exactly the kind of environment I grew up in.
also I don't understand why gabbi is SOOOOO fucking adement whether something was a phone call, FaceTime or a text? Like it really doesn't matter she said what she said
19:14 GH.... I barely had a vine account... I was a no body & a viewer ..... Also GH: I tweeted that because of how mean you were to me in my early Vine career....... Can't be both. 😳😳 It's a CONUNDRUM 🤣🤣
bro she’s tripping.. gabbie said she called it literal r^pe drama or whatever as a mean semantic then said she didn’t want to demote what happened to her as just drama…. girl WORDS MEAN THINGS!!! WORDS. MEAN. THINGS!!!!!!!!
I literally can’t believe someone else does this too 😂 I have a playlist on my channel that has Joey and Daniels videos, this video, and both of jessi’s videos that I will fall asleep to
Wow this is exhausting. Gabbie STILL lying and pretending she has no idea what jessi is talking about even after jessi explains it all perfectly is EXHAUSTING. Typical narcissist tactic. She’s trying to provoke a reaction that she can use against jessi by just frustrating the absolute fuck out of her by playing dumb with evidence in her face.
At 35 minutes. Gabbie: "...I'm not saying my channel was in the most spectacular condition but being called a rape apologist and letting that rumor just run like that was damaging to my carreer and my life and my mental state" Jessi: "But Gabbi, you WERE a rape apologist on januari 15th 2014. I didn't make that up." Gabbie: "The deflection here is crazy because you keep ignoring the actual facts of the situation where, like I said, tweeted something we don't even really know what it was because it was deleted, pretty immediatly. It's gone..." Waw. Waw. Gabbie, you are something else let me tell ya. I'm sure that people leaving those comments wasn't beneficial to Gabbi's overall wellbeing. However the actual facts of the case are that she DID make those tweets. You can't just pretend it's not important or didn't happen just because they are deleted. I have seen the tweets interacting with the deleted tweets. I've seen CL's tweet that was liked by Gabbi. It happened. Lily Marston still has a collage of them on her twitter if you'd like to see them for yourself. It's more than the song lyric. Sure she deleted them and that's good. I'd like to think it's because she doesn't support what she said in those but just because she deleted them doesn't mean she undid the past?? You can't just deny that it ever happened. Jessi's not deflecting. She's stating full on facts and Gabbie can't acknowledge it.
Did she say “you can say it im not posting this anywhere” and then a few minutes later say “I don’t want to say the name of this recording gets out” uhhhh
Even if Gabbie was in the right and Jessi was in the wrong (which I don't believe is true), sometimes you have to accept that the other person has taken something you did as really really hurtful, and you can apologize and be empathetic without trying to prove you are right. That's what makes Gabbie different. It seems that above all else, she has to be right in every situation, even at the expense of other people's feelings and mental wellbeing. That's a dangerous person to be close to. You have to be able to accept that even if you didn't mean to hurt anybody, that you did. People can forgive you for doing things that were not intended to be hurtful or were done out of immaturity or impulsivity, but it's much harder to forgive the people who constantly justify and defend themselves no matter what.
If GH would just own up to her bullshit the entire internet would let it go.......... Her ego just won't allow it. It is so sad that she thinks dragging JS and her trauma is "her defending herself" it is absolutely disgusting.
even the opening statement....RECORD ME without me knowing. I dont care. Anything I say behind closed doors I will say to someones face. Why is Gabbie SO worried about what shell say when supposedly all their issues are about the past? What about what you're saying TO DAY
EXACTLY!! People wouldn't record her without her knowledge and consent if she didn't constantly talk about that she deeply hurt publicly and twist up the arguments she had with them. All this could've been over in 2015 if Gabbie just respected that Jessi didn't want to be friends with her anymore and went on about her life.
absolutely ridiculous. Gabbi really thinkng she can just slip in that not only did she hang out with Curtis and his friends but then also listened to "his side of the story" to "defend" Jessi on a second ocassion she never mentioned before. "But Jessi, I cant stop being friends with everyone". WOW. The psychosis in her narrative is beyond understanding. She is so desperate to try and erase and refreame what she did and wants to manipulate Jessi to aplogise to her for not only telling the truth but to find out it wasnt even the full truth. The audacity of her demanding Jessi sign an NDA whilst she can continue addressing the drama and invalidating Jessi continuoisly. The atrocious crying trying to say how shes been attacked yet Jessi was actualled raped. fuck me how is Gabbi not cancelled>>??? Too many manipulators in the world like this
If you ever need to remember why Gabbie is unforgivable until she apologizes for attacking people directly on public platforms and directing her fan base to attack them too, watch this. Gabbie is constantly acting like everything she says is a gotcha “legal evidence and inarguably true” she is an actual online troll. She’s talking endlessly and if Jessi tries to say anything she tells her “I let you speak, now it’s my turn” and then interrupts Jessi constantly to interject. I think Gabbie’s fatal flaw is convincing herself that all of her ‘hate’ comes from other people talking about her online, tells her followers to attack those people in return and she refuses to see her own behaviour as a problem because she’s stuck in a victim complex.
I know this is old, but Gabbie did this so she could leverage the situation to suit her narrative, and that bit her pretty badly. I don't care who you are -- Harassing a woman who is pregnant and could've had a miscarriage, also bringing up her sexual assault trauma repeatedly is absolutely disgusting, almost to the point where it distressed her so much (and reduced her to tears) that she has constantly asked Gabbie to stop talking about it. Jessie had the patience of a saint and the composure to be on the receiving end of that, I don't think I would've managed. I wish Jessie nothing but the best and for her to just enjoy her life. (Also, I'm damn sure that Gabbie is drawing or colouring throughout the phone call).
No cause this whole phone call is Gabbie talking, Jessi trying to stop her from rambling on about lies for 6 minutes straight, Gabbie snapping at her for interrupting, then gaslighting Jessi for 5 more minutes. Then when Jessi finally gets a chance to talk, Gabbie interrupts to call anything Jessi says gaslighting and abuse, or just plain interrupts her. Jessi was fully just trying to talk and listen and come to some sort of understanding of what happened and what can happen going forward, Gabbie just wanted an opportunity to talk at someone and tell them why she’s right
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27:41 "You talked about my rape for a week in 2020" Gabbies response: "You tweeted i was a shitty person in 2019" are you fucking kidding me right now?
in gabbie's mind, every transgression against her is the worst thing to happen in the universe but anything she does wrong just isnt worth mentioning apparently
@@someidiot420 Not true in the slightest, but okay
The whole she talked about her rape for a week is complete and utter bullshit. Jessi CONSTANTLY weaponizes her trauma to attack Gabbie knowing the damage it will do to her and her reputation
Also gabbie: “if you didnt want me to talk about your trauma you should have left me alone”
@@someidiot420gabbie really can't handle people criticizing or calling her ass out when it needed to be done. She's such a egotistical person
The fact that she said “Curtis can confirm this” after saying she’s not a rape apologist, like he’s a literal liar?!?!
She's not a rape apologist
Ugh that is 🤢🤢🤢
I mean, forget that he’s a liar. He’s her literal rapist.
most gross thing to say to his VICTIM. just the most gross thing to say ever, really
Okay and? There's still some truth the person can speak, rapist or not. And she still isn't a rape apologist.
*this phone call in a nutshell:*
jessi: speaks for 10 sec
gabbie: cuts her off and rambles for 3 min straight
jessi: but gabbie, what about-
gabbie: don't interrupt me, let me speak, stop silencing me, that's abuse
No it’s not
Idk.. I've never cared for he said/she said drama... but Gabbie literally has every recording, every tweet, every voice message, every email, every text, literally everything that Jessie ever did to Gabbie. She has shown it, it's all proof, and yet people still take Jessie's side. I've put all the pieces together and pieced together their time lines. Gabbie is a hated person, and Jessie is not, so everyone blindly rushed to jessies side. I looked at both their points. Gabbie has done a ton of stupid dumb shit in her life, but she's not a rape apologist and that term is so stupid.
@@aratreyadoesthings4924 I agree she isn't a rape apologist now but she was when it happened to jessi and lied until she had no way of denying it. It was as easy as saying "I fucked up and I've learned from it." but noooo, she immediately denied it until people pulled out screenshots, and continued to deny it until those screenshots were proven to be real, creating more drama. Jessi did nothing there, it was all gabbie's refusal to admit the truth, and she still wanted an apology from jessi as if it was her fault gabbie lied about everything. After she did the podcast callout I lost any respect I had for her, because as they say in the call, jessi wanted to stop talking about it and let the drama die, but gabbie believed headstrong that she deserved an apology, as if she was the victim for something she started. And keeping track of all contact she had with jessi looks like stalker behavior, so I don't think that does anything but damage her own image more.
@@liswane I never thought of it that way. She was for a moment when she made the mistake but she truly did learn from it and stopped... but she should say that. I hope both of them leave each other alone now though.
Gabbie is wrong with the way she thinks, I don't want to be rude to her but... this phone call gave her a chance to redeem her self, Jessi was even at a point saying she'd take her video down but Gabbie fucking ruined her chance when she started being defensive, snd wouldn't admit anything or say sorry or take accountability when certain topics came up, she even had the audacity to instead demand an apology from Jessi, and that is where I slapped my face, like ugh no, come on, she just doesn't get or believe she can be wrong, why the fuck would Jessi take down her video now for you, what are you trying to do, stay on her side, like literally sorry but this wasn't Jessi's fault, your down fall was your fault.
the way that EVERY time Jessi made a real point, Gabbie would change the subject or tell her it’s false with no proof
Not true at all. She gave the evidence she needed to disprove points, but y'all bat an eye when it doesn't fit your narrative
👏🏼 right
@@brandenclark1485 no i think that is you who's doing that dude if your on gabbies side after listening to this nightmare
@@sandras2624 no, it's you. She has given so much evidence and proof for y'all but because it proves that your toxic idol is an abuser, you discredit it in order to make your toxic idol I'm the right, even when she's proven to be in the wrong
Or interrupt her and tell her she’s gaslighting Gabbie for literally just talking
Gabbie: "you can't just move on when you're cornered, Jessie."
Also Gabbie: "YOU'RE DEFLECTING AND WE NEED TO MOVE ON."
What an absolute psychopath.
Nope, not true. They aren't even comparable. Jessi tries to move on all the time and deflect when she's confronted with anything because she doesn't want to face the truth. Gabbie calls this out because Jessi has been doing this same shit for fucking years and Gabbie is done with it
@@celesteworldbuilding What has Jessie "done"? Explain in detail, please lmao.
@@robertyeah2259 I'm not going into grave detail (mainly because I genuinely do not have enough time to) but for one, the constant jabs at Gabbie Jessi has done over the years, on various social media platforms, while Gabbie stayed quiet while claiming it was "to get back at you" when in reality, she did it to provoke her knowing the kind of response she would need to talk about Gabbie in a bad light. Her starting the rumor about her being a rape apologist years ago on both her and Jen's account, which she has admitted to making many of those tweets. The various ways Jessi brought up Gabbie to keep the relationship between them public while Gabbie tried to resolve things privately. Jessi, out of the blue due to 1 single DM, makes a video after saying for the longest time they are not on bad terms, completely destroying Gabbie's name and reputation. Lying about multiple things in her video regarding situations with Gabbie including presenting evidence that goes against what she has said while skimming over it to make sure no one could call her out on it not helping her case. There is so much if you truly watched Gabbie's videos where she shows literal proof of the shit Jessi did over the years. There's a lot and I'd rather not waste too much of my own time trying to prove something you will never see as it's not worth the energy I could be putting into something I love (something I'd recommend you doing as well as we will never get anywhere since you can't see the shit Jessi has pulled)
@@celesteworldbuilding There is NOTHING that can be justified on Gabbie's behalf, especially in the situation with Jessi. Using someone else's trauma for attention is the most immature thing I have ever seen a person do. Not only that, Gabbie has had dinner with Jessi's rapist, hung out around him at parties, taken pictures with him, and even conversed with him. At the very start of their friendship, Gabbie was on the wrong end of the situation. Not only was she completely oblivious to the context of the situation, she even replied to Lepore's tweets at the time. She continuously told the story of Jessi's rape over and over for absolutely no reason, even after Jessi asked her to stop. She provoked Jessi to fight with her for literal YEARS. Jessi won't cover the situation with Gabbie anymore but yes, you're right, Jessi tries to move on. She tries to move on because she has a family of her own, work to get done and literally anything else to do. Gabbie is narcissistic, delusional and manic. She needs help. She constantly uses her ADHD as an excuse, thinking it will divert her audiences attention away from her actions because there's an "excuse" for it. The only times Jessi ever replied, fought back or even spoke to Gabbie during that time period was when Gabbie provoked her to. The timeline is laid out right in front of us and you can piece it together, no problem. Don't pin it on Jessi and feed into Gabbie's delusions.
It's a pattern for Gabbie to continuously provoke people. She'll be aggressive, demanding - she'll play victim, act all-knowing and paint the reactions of the people she provokes as bad. It happened with Jessi, it happened with RiceGum, it even happened with Trisha. Every single time, SHE provokes the fight, she continuously pokes at people and when she is met with a reaction, suddenly the other person is the aggressive one and THEY are the ones who provoked HER. I don't know how anyone can support Gabbie anymore - it's right in front of you - why she's a delusional brat that cries when she doesn't get her way. You need to look at the entire timeline to see the pattern and narcissistic behaviors.
@@bamstrz I can't tell if you're delusional, easily manipulated, or both. I'm not even gonna go into the depths of why you're simply telling a false narrative cause it isn't worth my time, but seeing you go all this way to continue to spread this false narrative shows the amount you're willing to go to ruin someone's career over your toxic idol having a falling out with someone years ago. Get the fuck off the internet and grow the fuck up, jesus.
1:26:40 gabbie starts crying talking about how the worst thing you can be called next to a rapist is a rape apologist literally to the victim of the rapist for whom she apologized. Groundbreaking.
It’s beyond grotesque. She’s like a case study for narcissism and delusion.
imagine getting raped. But being called a rapist or a rape apologist is WAYYY worse!!!
The fact that Jessi can own up to what she’s done wrong and say that it was messed up for her to do while Gabby can’t even admit to ANYTHING she’s done is absolutely infuriating. She would be impossible for anyone to talk civilly with and I’m impressed Jessi entertained this for three hours without becoming completely overwhelmed
It’s the first trait of a narcissist they will not apologize unless they can gain something by apologizing.
She has owned up and admitted her mistakes and faults. Y'all just don't want to hear it because you want to further the attack on her
@@brandenclark1485 owned up to what exactly? She said sorry then said it didn’t happen and she never did the thing she was sorry about like the tweets. She can move on nobody is holding her back, but it will be hard because she didn’t change…the real her always ruins things for herself.
@@chlorinelori1064 she owned up to making tweets and being toxic at times. She has changed but people won't allow her to move on. When she tries to, people just drag her right back into some other bullshit drama
@@brandenclark1485 well if she stopped bringing Jessie up for almost an entire year straight taking about her rape, and calling Jessie a narcissistic abuser.
Yea I would lose my shit too.
The fact that I just listened to 3 hours phone call between two strangers in the middle of the night is.... concerning...i go to bed now.
Lmaooo
Nah, I listen to this as my background noise at work. You good
😂
@@ceciliamontenegro1607 me too.
😹😹😹😹 me too
I personally really appreciate Jessi changing her apology from "I'm sorry if you felt..." to "I'm sorry that that hurt you" I think that was really mature of her
What would've been straight up mature was "I'm sorry," nothing else afterwards. If she truly was sorry, she wouldn't need to add the "if you felt," or "that hurt you" afterwards, but she clearly isn't sorry.
@@celesteworldbuilding I understand what you're saying٫ really I do٫ but I do think she really was sorry. She did still try to make excuses after that٫ but I do think she was on the right track with her apology.
@@coolstorybro6553 I just wish that. of Jessi was truly sorry, there would be no need to the anything extra on the end. Most people who give sincere apologies just flat out say they're sorry and what they did that warranted the apology instead of tagging something at the end or making an excuse afterwards.
@@celesteworldbuilding I mean you're not wrong. But I think the reason she was making excuses was because at that part of the phone call they were both at each other's throats a lot and they were both trying really hard to defend themselves which made Jessi feel like she needed to keep talking. Especially because Gabbie interrupted her a lot so I think she was just talking for as long as she could before Gabbie interrupted again😅
@CoolStoryBro Well Gabbie had reason to stop Jessi from talking at certain parts. She didn't want Jessi to get away with certain lies so she was like, "hey, this isn't true and I'm gonna call you out for it"
This is straight up disgusting. Gabbie Hanna is a 30 year old woman who needs to grow tf up and drop the high school drama. Truly disgusting.
Jessi: Gabbie you have drama with multiple people do you understand that?
Gabbie: you do too
Jessi: whooooo
Gabbie: Ok we’re going to a toxic point
💀
I shouldn't have laughed but "I stay in the house I'm a hermit crab who do I have drama with right now?!" was so funny lol
Jessi handled herself so well
Probably to make Gabbie seem crazy since it's always the hysterical ones that get looked down upon
@@celesteworldbuilding Get help, thats a concerning way to think. Normal people don’t think things like that.
@@randompersonn4 You need help. That's how society has always been. Look down upon those who are hysterical because they're going through shit and might exaggerate things. It's literally the easiest explanation out there. Nomal people don't look past that as a possible option for what's going on. Get some serious help you dimwhit.
@@celesteworldbuilding That may be true but it CLEARLY isn’t the case here, which is why you’re delusional. Or maybe Gabbie on a second account… I wouldn’t be surprised with the way you sound.
@@randompersonn4 All you Gabbie haters can do is call Gabbie fans who defend and support her, her. Why can't you just admit she has fans that know she's in the right? Oh wait, it's because you always want to take the SA victims side, even when she hurts others. Also, the whole hysteria thing IS the case here. Jessi keeps herself calm to sound like the more reasonable one so when Gabbie gets upset with Jessi LYING to her face in broad daylight, it makes Gabbie seem crazy. And if anyone is delusional, it's clearly y'all defending an abuser who hides behind her SA (wouldn't even be surprised if y'all didn't know what delusional truly meant)
GH: talks about being manipulated
GH: textbook manipulator
It kind of makes me laugh that Gabbie said “you’ll hear me apologising to jessi smiles very many times in the phone call” when in reality she didn’t say sorry once, she just dances around everything. About 45 minutes in where they’re talking about Gabbie calling the situation R Drama, she says “it was bad semantics” or “it wasn’t my intention” never once does she actually say “I’m sorry for doing that”.
Also I love how she thinks she’s so smart and yet half of the big words that come out of her mouth are used completely wrong 😂😂😂
Speaking of big words, I cackled everytime she said "data analytics" and "forensic analysts" to try and sound intimidating
Why should she have to apologize to her abuser for absolutely no reason? She's already apologized publicly, what more does her abuser need? Also, Jessi absolutely deserves to apologize to Gabbie after the shit she put her through. Fucking abuser shithead hiding behind a pregnancy and SA...
"Also I love how she thinks she’s so smart and yet half of the big words that come out of her mouth are used completely wrong 😂😂😂" give one word she used wrong
that's surprisingly common in people with her diagnoses tbh, but usually only in people who aren't getting the treatment they need for their low self-esteem which tends to be the cause of that behavior
@@the-birbo This isn't true... the fuck are these assumptions just because people like someone you don't? None of my friends are like this (trust me, I've been around them for years) and they still genuinely believe her side. If you continue to support Jessi, even with all of the evidence of her abuse that has come out, get the fuck off the internet and seek legitimate mental health with the way you defend an abuser
She's such a dumbass for claiming she apologized when SHE was the one who put out the phone call where she didn't even say sorry
Jessie is insanely patient. I know if I was her I would’ve thrown hands ten minutes in
So you would have thrown hands within 10 minutes and show what a stereotype you are? Wow
You gonna let me speak Simon don't interrupt me
@@jetnight88 mfr what?! 🤨🤨
@@jetnight88 no.... maybe because gabbie is being manipulative and setting a negative stereotype for people with mental conditions??
You can tell Gabbie just loves to have control over the conversation at all times and as soon as she starts to lose it she changes the subject. It saddens me to see her like this because i used to be a fan of her videos. What she has done to Jessi is terrible and the fact that she is forcing and pressuring Jessi to apologize constantly throughout this phone call makes me sick. Gabbie's best bet would be to make a video apologizing and owning up to everything she has done that has hurt the people around her. That's the only way I could ever become a fan again... sorry Gabbie
Okay, you were never a true fan of Gabbies. Secondly, What Gabbie has done? Oh please, cry me a manipulative river why don't ya. Jessi NEEDS to apologize to Gabbie after all the abuse she put Gabbie through over the years. Gabbie didn't try to take control of anything, she was making sure Jessi didn't lie about anything and kept exposing her lies constantly which Jessi tried to get ahead of but failed at miserably.
@@celesteworldbuilding dude, no. just no.
@@SatansRatPrincess dude, yes. just yes. Deal with it bitch
@@celesteworldbuilding wayyyy to far. don't be like that
I think Gabbie contacted Curtis after she fell out with Jessi- not to catch him out in a lie, but to ‘catch’ *her* in a lie. She’s already said she knew someone who was falsely accused and she hated the woman who accused him and has gone behind her back to ‘expose’ her before. It makes no sense that fresh after a falling out when she got hateful and spiteful that she’d suddenly want to run to the rescue, she isn’t so noble.
@@amirahazhar4192 it’s a vey immature and frightening interaction. Gabby has no empathy for someone that was her friends r-pe. Everything is for attention and views. Unfortunately Gabby has a personality disorder tht has clearly gone untreated and she’s probably in denial or she has no idea. She’s clearly not understanding or have compassion skills. Yikes!!! Also. How childish when they talk about controlling relationships…. Jessie had a BF. And Gabby is on the floor asking for attention. Then Jessi seems to have matured some. But the one interaction when both girls take each other’s BFs. And display animosity for one another? How can they not realize all this!??? WOW. Scary shit. Social media sucks.
This call literally left me speechless, Gabbie Hannah is a monster.
i love how in the video gabbie said to listen to the phone call but she made herself look WORSE
Gabbie is so manipulative and abusive in this. Her narcissism is really scary. Jessi has so much patience, though I do wish Jessi would just hang up on her nonsense.
Gabbie was HOPING she could corner Jessie & control her by using court as a threat & I'm so glad Jessie didn't cave to that. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This! Gabbie is scared and mad that she’s being exposed for who she is and is grasping for anything she can to try and intimidate and back Jessie into a corner!! Ugh I hate her so much she’s such a narcissist and a literal maniac
@@cmitch5598 the fact that she continuously brings up Jesse's trauma and is so disgusting and vile when she speaks about it almost triggers me and my trauma because I could never imagine what it would feel like for Jesse to have the whole world talkin about her trauma something so devastating and so personal and Gabbie airs it out like it's a fucking Olympic sport and it is absolutely horrid. ..And the fact that Gabby tried to use Curtis as some character witness on her behalf just shows how insanely vapid Gabby is and for her to call everyone she falls out with uneducated and stupid she really really does not have any self-awareness or situational awareness at all and if it was not such a horrific topic it would be comedy gold.
@@cmitch5598 the craziest part of that entire phone call to me is when Gabby acts totally surprised that the rapist tried to blackmail her and that the rapist isn't an honest person she literally acts like she just can't believe Curtis would try and blackmail her like girl the rapist is not a nice guy 😯 SURPRISE SURPRISE..... 😭😭 like what the fuck is wrong with her LOL
@@a.c.knowsnothing you’re absolutely right!! It’s so triggering because this is what bullies and narcissists have done to us (I’m assuming you as well since you said you had trauma too) our whole lives! It’s so insane to me that she has people backing her in this. She’s absolutely a vapid narcissist and she’s shitting the bed so hard that she’s trying to pull up any last stops she can. Hence why she repeatedly brings up lawyers, private investigators, screenshots, witnesses, etc. she’s doing anything she can to redeem her image and proving she’s the victim. When In reality she is hounding the ACTUAL victim to the point of tripping her up and cornering her, to where Jessi doesn’t even know how to defend herself. The fact that gabby so casually speaks about her interaction with Curtis like it wasn’t wrong is insane to me. And then continues to blame Jessi! Like what is wrong with her?! She’s openly talking about how horrible she did Jessi and still trying to make herself sound like a victim. It’s so sickening. She’s talking all this bullshit about tweets and subtweets meanwhile she’s a fucking rape apologist and has done wayyyy more disgusting things than a fucking subtweet. She couldn’t get over those damn tweets as if that holds anything actually in her favor. It’s giving delusional and scared of being exposed.
@@cmitch5598 one thing that is so funny to me and all of the interactions that she has with Jessie she has the biggest issue with Jesse saying that she's a bad person or a backstabbing friend and is she think she's going to take that into a courtroom and someone's going to find some in her favor like is she crazy she does realize that yes even Jesse has a freedom of speech and that's saying somebody is a shity person is not a criminal offense lol 🤣🤣🤣 and Gabi sure knows how to pick fights and who to pick fights with because she would never say that shit to somebody that was not afraid of catching an assault charge I will guarantee you that she knows Jesse won't lay a hand on her which is why she says it but if she ran across somebody that is not afraid of going to jail she would be so quite you could hear a pin drop. 💯💯
gabbie complaining that jessie keeps bringing up things from 2014/2015 when gabbie literally has messages and screenshots from 2015
She's still in 2014 and her mind is 15, I swear
it's hysterical that Gabbie thinks she's the victim in any of this
God, I don’t know I listened to this call before. Gabbie constantly interrupting Jessi is so painful
Gabbie has had this problem for many years. Plenty of her old friends that are no longer friends with because of this problem. I believe Jessi. She's not the type to lie. Mind you guys Jessi was pregnant this whole time. This was so very stressful for her to talk about and go through. Why would she lie??
That’s such a great point- why would Jessi choose or plan to put herself thru this stress when pregnant w her rainbow baby? Gabbie’s rationale there was alarmingly delusional
jessi never lied. and she had the facts. i’ve dug deep and jessi is correct. gabbie is a complete liar with everything. and she’s a narcissistic bitch. period end of storyz
Okay Okay
She is the type to lie, the type to change the narrative to benefit her. And I am so sick and tired of people using the excuse of her being pregnant to make her this angel or innocent person when for years she openly abused a woman she deemed her friend years ago before having a falling. Fuck Jessi and her using her pregnancy as a shield to attack Gabbie
whenever i feel shame and guilt for cutting connections with my family I relisten to this and it triggers me to remember why i did in the first place
Me too
I was wondering why I come back to this for comfort background noise 😭 nice having distance from this
❤🩹 i can relate
She won’t listen or let people talk, Gabbie says as she keeps interrupting Jessie...
listening to this makes me want to go through the screen and slap Gabbie. she's so insensitive and just comes off as a huge liar.
1:20:18 proves everything about who jessi is
trying to give helpful advice to gabbie to help turn this around, & encouraging her she can do it. i’m inspired by her.
23:20 actually fucking infuriates me
“Jessi you’re deflecting”
Um no she was literally proving Gabbie dead wrong and she cannot handle that so GABBIE deflected by gaslighting Jessi into believing she’s deflecting.
Jesus Christ, no wonder Jessis so sick of this shit
👏🏼 hearing her say that sentence makes my blood boil
Nope... just nope... Jessi was truly deflecting as she couldn't face the truth so she decided to deflect and Gabbie called her out on it. Nice defending an abuser
@@celesteworldbuilding bro why are you in every single comment thread with TWO ACCOUNTS replying to everyone with no proof to back up anything youre saying like imagine calling a rape victim an abuser because thats what your fav said and then admitted she lied.
@@doubledee7283 First and foremost, if you're talking about the Branden Clark account, that first account I was using to reply I used literal months ago, because it was made way BEFORE this account ever existed. Secondly, ALL YOU CAN DO IS REPLY TO ME WITH NO PROOF, what the fuck are you on about? The literal projection from this one I tell you.... Imagine siding with an abuser just because she was a rape victim as if she couldn't become an abuser herself and using her rape to defend her abusive behavior.... couldn't be me sis, couldn't be me.
Are you gabbie hanna!?!@@celesteworldbuilding
Ole girl really posted this and said “I have nothing to hide”
You couldn’t have ripped this audio out of my cold dead hands
I would have kms listening back. She truly must have said “I don’t need to listen to this because it’s my trauma” 😭
Every police force and military force in the world including FBI and CIA could not tear this from my fingers on god
23:20 this part is extremely infuriating. not only does gabbie interrupt her, but she continuously talks over her and then says that jessi never listens and it's impossible to work with her. gabbie is one of the most scary influencers. she holds onto every piece of information, but interprets it in a way that paints herself as the victim and uses it against others. no wonder she has like no more influencer friends. she's not brand safe.
She is not safe for life honestly
Jefree star vibes
Shes not safe period. In any way
Gabbi is the biggest fucking nightmare
Ew I can’t believe this girl.. Jessie has sooo much patience
I hope jessi gets the peace she deserves. Her and her beautiful family. That’s it that’s the only side I can be nice to
How can‘t Gabbie see her own hypocrisy?
She says the rape apologistic tweet was just up for a short time, therefore not valid and justifying enough for calling her a rape apologist, though when jessi says, that the tweet about being a shitty person was up for an hour it‘s the most horrific thing that she did to gabbie and worth starting a shitstorm against jessi
Imagine calling yourself a victim for siding with a rapist to said rapist's victim. Gabbie is disgusting!
🤯🤯🤯🤯 wow…my sympathy & respect to jessi for being able to participate in this conversation without committing any felonies 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
Does Gabbie even know how much she deflects?
Gabbie is 100% coloring during this lmfao
I literally listen to this while I do homework... it's so satisfying.
okay the moment she saw those tweets she should’ve PUBLICLY corrected herself. fuck that. she lost me AGAIN
if gabbie just simply said.
Yes i did defend a rapist I did lie about not defending him because I was afraid of the backlash. I did provide a fan with personal info about jessis medication and Lie about the situation to try to prove i did not defend a rapist.
None of this would have happened but gabbie loves getting on her delusional ass, and deliberatly hurt people
I cannot stand gabbie Hanna for the life of me
Gabbie is so aggressive and pushy. She doesn’t let Jessi speak and pretty much blames everything on Jessi when in reality gabbie is just scared shitless and mad that she’s going to be exposed. This is her last reach for control to try and turn the tables back on Jessi. She’s trying to make Jessi seem like the one in the wrong in any possible way she can. She’s reaching for straws and failing.
Jessi: tells gabbie that gabbie been blackmailing her the whole call and reads the legal definition of blackmail
Gabbie, confidently: *yes*
Gabbi is crazy. She keeps talking about the most vague statement and then claims it was about her.
If the shoe fits.
The music video comment killed me. Even if Jessi said that. (Not sure if she did) how could she just assume that's about her?
@@imrebeccap because Gabby thinks the world revolves around her and she feels triggered by everything. Anything said about her because deep down she knows that she did a shit ton of stuff to hurt everybody and before anybody has the opportunity to call her out, even if it’s just vague, she will go on the offense to protect her image, because she would rather take the chance of it not being about her, but her part of the story being out, then ignoring something that could potentially hurt her carefully curated narrative
The comment aged well. Gabbie had a literal breakdown in 2022 + now she’s selling her LA mansion
Cracks me up how the one “lie” from her video that Gab is stuck on is that it was a FaceTime call 😂
Clearly, Gabbie is a narcissist.. Sorry to Jessi for experiencing this 🙄
It’s textbook narcissistic abuse 😭
i think it’s actually fucking CRAZY that gabbie released this thinking that it would make her look better? or look good in anyway?? people throw the word “delusional” around a lot, but this is actually delusional. the amount of manipulation gabbie does in this call makes it physically hard to listen to.
the most important thing to a narcissist, is their image. their appearance. how the world perceives them. & they will fight to the death to maintain it.
gabbi loves to use the word narrative. she doesn’t see the pain she’s caused because she tells herself a narrative
i dont even know this people at first when i stumble in this video. I think this Gabbie should just STFU. Then after watching this and research everything about this ( I was bored and became curious ). I still really feel Gabbie needs to STFU. Its not your story, not your trauma, and your not even part of all those things that happened. Gabbie F up and dont want to admit it. Why?? she just wants to be always right. Delulu😅
The amount that i spend my time to research this is alot but i dont regret it.
Now i learned how to see and avoid this type of people in my life. Thanks to the psychology books i read for this.
To Jessie if you might read this.
Praying for your success on your new podcast with your friend Lily. You got a new follower here😊🎉
I keep trying to fast forward but all I hear is GABBIE yap yap yapping every second and not letting jessi talk at all
Gabbie sounds like *that* manager at work. The one that wants to drag you for things that literally aren’t your fault and when you explain that they go “😃yeah so that’s great but-😃😃“ and reiterates that you should’ve been better
I just don’t understand how Gabbie can state all these sources then when Jessi talks about certain instances can invalidate it by saying “why are we talking about this in 2020?” Uh… also why couldn’t she give evidence? Why would he lawyer need to okay her giving screenshots to Jessi? What harm would it do to give it to her if she wasn’t going to pursue legal action anyways? So confused
I don’t think she actually has a lawyer. Or she has one of those lawyers that will just do whatever you want and charge you a shit ton of money to write letters knowing full well this will never go to court, because no lawyer in their right mind will take on a case like this, in this instance, and I know because I’ve tried before, and I had real valid evidence with proper threats and everything, and I still got turned down And was asked to go to the police instead which I did, Gabby has nothing she can actually utilize in court, so threatening her with that is a very classic narcissistic tactic for you to be afraid, and to do whatever they want you to do, which we clearly heard in this phone call, but this is why this never went to court. Gabby has an entertainment lawyer, I assume he told her to cut it out, so she went public and did the interview and all this other crap at the phone call and the podcast yet claiming that she spoke to her lawyer, which she most likely did, but she’s not honest about the answer that she got so she’s telling half truths in order to scare Jesse Which again is a very common tactic to abuse and bully someone into doing what you want
Man, Jessi would have Gabbie in corners and Gabbie would always change the subject. That’s guilty as fuck. Just my opinion
32:12 “mind your own business, Miss. I do not want drama” 😅
That is my fav part lmaaao
I also love jessies follow up statement "omg cry me a river!!" that comes kind of right after the mind your own business miss 😭
@@breemystic this whole call was Gabbie doing damage control? If she doesn't want drama why provoke it by speaking on it constantly publicly and privately.
@@sandras2624 but Sandra why do women always talk about everyone? Stop just stop
Literally every 5 seconds Gabbie opens her mouth it just frustrates me!!!! And near the beginning gabbie says 'let me speak' but speaks over Jessie constantly and ignore her when she's asks to let her speak!
2:17:00:
(jessie stating the fact that gabbie finds it super offensive that people call her a r**e apologist)
jessie: "... but you WERE (a r-apologist). y'know what i mean?"
gabbie: "but i ALSO WASEN'T, jessie"
gabbie my brain hurts.
Can’t believe there are people here in these comments that still defend Gabbie after listening to this call. Yikes.
This whole phone call is gabbie just bragging about how good of a person she is lmao
2:17:45 it sounds like gabbie is fucking drawing with colored pencils
Probably manically
I don’t generally pay attention to TH-cam at all. Not creators at least. I used to keep it solely to Jenna Marbles because she [used to be] one of the least problematic creators. And from what I understand - she and Julian are still get unproblematic creators and I LOVE that about them. I love Jenna and Julian.
The thing about Gabbie is…I used to watch her videos when she first started out and she seemed just as problematic back then. She seemed very narcissistic. She seemed like an immature, naive, manipulative individual. I understand why people are drawn to her because she puts herself on with this persona that people love her so much they have to hate her.
It’s weird. When the videos about Gabbie breaking down her behavior say she didn’t grow with her audience…she didn’t. She stayed in that high school, Vine mentality. And she thinks the narrative is against her. Gabbie is against Gabbie. She is the ONLY TH-camr I have followed (not subscribed to but followed the drama) to see if peoples eyes will open up. But they haven’t. Many people still follow and support this narcissist as though she’s innocent; as though she hasn’t made the lives of so, so many people miserable. And when people start cutting her out and telling the truth, she’s the victim.
Very well said 👏
Ever seen GH on Jenna's & Juliens podcast from years ago? She was overtly flirting with Julien and you can see him and Jenna making eyes at each other like "I'm uncomfortable, let's get her out of here".
I honestly think at this point people follow her in order to not miss out on any drama should happen, I highly doubt that every single person that follows her does so for good intentions. Also, I will never forget the last video that Jesse made where she predict that that Gabby was gonna go apeshit on. TikTok scaring her fans so she can release new music and that’s exactly what she did. She is a scary person to have a platform and I just think people are watching Her, as they would watch a car wreck. They don’t watch it because they enjoy it, it’s just grotesque and shocking and remind them of the fact that their life isn’t so bad and also keeps reminding them to stay away from the toxic people in their old life, because regardless of how triggering it is, they can just turn off the TV or their phone, where in real life you can always do that. For some people, it’s also comforting, if you grew up around abuse like this, watching drama that reminds you of it is almost like a safe space. I used to watch the real housewives, for example with all the yelling And the nastiness, because that was exactly the kind of environment I grew up in.
also I don't understand why gabbi is SOOOOO fucking adement whether something was a phone call, FaceTime or a text? Like it really doesn't matter she said what she said
She was talking about lawyers, she probably needed everything she needed in order to actually build a case
It’s taken me about 7 months to get through this entire call without falling asleep. Crazy shit! Thanks for reuploading.
19:14 GH.... I barely had a vine account... I was a no body & a viewer ..... Also GH: I tweeted that because of how mean you were to me in my early Vine career.......
Can't be both. 😳😳 It's a CONUNDRUM 🤣🤣
bro she’s tripping.. gabbie said she called it literal r^pe drama or whatever as a mean semantic then said she didn’t want to demote what happened to her as just drama…. girl WORDS MEAN THINGS!!! WORDS. MEAN. THINGS!!!!!!!!
all facts!!!!!!!
That sound in the background - is Gabbie rifling through a cup of colored pencils and DRAWing?????????????? during THIS conversation ?????????
I listen to this every night to sleep as if it’s a podcast
Lol me too!
same, this is so entertaining for no reason, but i wanna give jessi a hug
I literally can’t believe someone else does this too 😂 I have a playlist on my channel that has Joey and Daniels videos, this video, and both of jessi’s videos that I will fall asleep to
@@taurusss512 AAAH SAME
Honestly if listening to Gabbie act so horrible wasn't so triggering, I would to lol
WHEN JESSI TALKS ABOUT SUPPORTING CURTIS AND GABBIE SAID "YEAH, BUT-"
NO BUTS!!!! (20:43)
Wow this is exhausting. Gabbie STILL lying and pretending she has no idea what jessi is talking about even after jessi explains it all perfectly is EXHAUSTING. Typical narcissist tactic. She’s trying to provoke a reaction that she can use against jessi by just frustrating the absolute fuck out of her by playing dumb with evidence in her face.
god bro gabbie hanna in this video is my 13th reason.
Why does everyone keep forgetting that CURTIS IS THE ACTUAL MONSTER WHO DID THIS AND HE HAS NOT BEEN DEPLATFORMED. DISTURBING.
It's astounding the amount of times I said "fuck you, gabbie" in this conversation
Gabbie "Rape Apologist" Hanna
IS GABBY FILING HER NAILS THIS WHOLE TIME omfg the amount of gaslighting gabbie does and she’s filing her nails the whole time. >:(
lol i could be wrong but i think it was a grinder
@@sydneylb14 that’s so much worse lmao (like a 🪴 grinder?)
@@annabuckley8994 lol yeah that kind. sometimes it sounds like she’s drawing too
Gabbi was the one who released this too, she genuinely thinks she’s right in this convo?
She is so clearly the manipulator here from interrupting her constantly and dancing around the scenario
2:28:35 Gabbie Hanna: “because I’m a good person, Jessi”
Literally the biggest joke said on the internet
Gabbie is the victim like always 🤡
This entire thing hurts me. Like gabbie when she spoke. Every single time without fail. Made me wanna just jump off a building, my god poor jessi
Gabbie so freaking annoying I’m like losing it 😭
I wouldn't be surprised if we never saw Gabbie Hanna again.
At 35 minutes.
Gabbie: "...I'm not saying my channel was in the most spectacular condition but being called a rape apologist and letting that rumor just run like that was damaging to my carreer and my life and my mental state"
Jessi: "But Gabbi, you WERE a rape apologist on januari 15th 2014. I didn't make that up."
Gabbie: "The deflection here is crazy because you keep ignoring the actual facts of the situation where, like I said, tweeted something we don't even really know what it was because it was deleted, pretty immediatly. It's gone..."
Waw. Waw. Gabbie, you are something else let me tell ya.
I'm sure that people leaving those comments wasn't beneficial to Gabbi's overall wellbeing.
However the actual facts of the case are that she DID make those tweets. You can't just pretend it's not important or didn't happen just because they are deleted. I have seen the tweets interacting with the deleted tweets. I've seen CL's tweet that was liked by Gabbi. It happened.
Lily Marston still has a collage of them on her twitter if you'd like to see them for yourself. It's more than the song lyric.
Sure she deleted them and that's good. I'd like to think it's because she doesn't support what she said in those but just because she deleted them doesn't mean she undid the past?? You can't just deny that it ever happened.
Jessi's not deflecting. She's stating full on facts and Gabbie can't acknowledge it.
Did she say “you can say it im not posting this anywhere” and then a few minutes later say “I don’t want to say the name of this recording gets out” uhhhh
Me: I hate drama!!!!
Also me: Listens to this whole thing 😅
Even if Gabbie was in the right and Jessi was in the wrong (which I don't believe is true), sometimes you have to accept that the other person has taken something you did as really really hurtful, and you can apologize and be empathetic without trying to prove you are right. That's what makes Gabbie different. It seems that above all else, she has to be right in every situation, even at the expense of other people's feelings and mental wellbeing. That's a dangerous person to be close to. You have to be able to accept that even if you didn't mean to hurt anybody, that you did. People can forgive you for doing things that were not intended to be hurtful or were done out of immaturity or impulsivity, but it's much harder to forgive the people who constantly justify and defend themselves no matter what.
If GH would just own up to her bullshit the entire internet would let it go.......... Her ego just won't allow it. It is so sad that she thinks dragging JS and her trauma is "her defending herself" it is absolutely disgusting.
even the opening statement....RECORD ME without me knowing. I dont care. Anything I say behind closed doors I will say to someones face. Why is Gabbie SO worried about what shell say when supposedly all their issues are about the past? What about what you're saying TO DAY
EXACTLY!! People wouldn't record her without her knowledge and consent if she didn't constantly talk about that she deeply hurt publicly and twist up the arguments she had with them. All this could've been over in 2015 if Gabbie just respected that Jessi didn't want to be friends with her anymore and went on about her life.
Gabbie: 'I'm sorry but'
absolutely ridiculous. Gabbi really thinkng she can just slip in that not only did she hang out with Curtis and his friends but then also listened to "his side of the story" to "defend" Jessi on a second ocassion she never mentioned before. "But Jessi, I cant stop being friends with everyone". WOW. The psychosis in her narrative is beyond understanding. She is so desperate to try and erase and refreame what she did and wants to manipulate Jessi to aplogise to her for not only telling the truth but to find out it wasnt even the full truth. The audacity of her demanding Jessi sign an NDA whilst she can continue addressing the drama and invalidating Jessi continuoisly. The atrocious crying trying to say how shes been attacked yet Jessi was actualled raped. fuck me how is Gabbi not cancelled>>??? Too many manipulators in the world like this
Gabby is another amber heard.
Does that make Jessi Johnny Depp? As in the guy who said he would f amber's corpse? Good to know.
If you ever need to remember why Gabbie is unforgivable until she apologizes for attacking people directly on public platforms and directing her fan base to attack them too, watch this.
Gabbie is constantly acting like everything she says is a gotcha “legal evidence and inarguably true” she is an actual online troll. She’s talking endlessly and if Jessi tries to say anything she tells her “I let you speak, now it’s my turn” and then interrupts Jessi constantly to interject.
I think Gabbie’s fatal flaw is convincing herself that all of her ‘hate’ comes from other people talking about her online, tells her followers to attack those people in return and she refuses to see her own behaviour as a problem because she’s stuck in a victim complex.
Gabbie reeeeaalllly can't handle not being able to control other people
Gabbie really needs to stop & simply focus on her work.
She was been this phone call is almost a year old.
Just now watching this. Gabbie sounds dangerous.
I know this is old, but Gabbie did this so she could leverage the situation to suit her narrative, and that bit her pretty badly. I don't care who you are -- Harassing a woman who is pregnant and could've had a miscarriage, also bringing up her sexual assault trauma repeatedly is absolutely disgusting, almost to the point where it distressed her so much (and reduced her to tears) that she has constantly asked Gabbie to stop talking about it.
Jessie had the patience of a saint and the composure to be on the receiving end of that, I don't think I would've managed. I wish Jessie nothing but the best and for her to just enjoy her life.
(Also, I'm damn sure that Gabbie is drawing or colouring throughout the phone call).
gabbi is infuriating and mean
I’m really, really glad to be able to watch this video. Please don’t get rid of it😅
Not Gabbie saying “I’m so sorry you’re upset about that” right after clips of her talking about Jessi “acting”?
No cause this whole phone call is Gabbie talking, Jessi trying to stop her from rambling on about lies for 6 minutes straight, Gabbie snapping at her for interrupting, then gaslighting Jessi for 5 more minutes. Then when Jessi finally gets a chance to talk, Gabbie interrupts to call anything Jessi says gaslighting and abuse, or just plain interrupts her. Jessi was fully just trying to talk and listen and come to some sort of understanding of what happened and what can happen going forward, Gabbie just wanted an opportunity to talk at someone and tell them why she’s right