A Zildjian Cymbal Shootout! - A Custom Vs. K Custom Dark
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» Crash Cymbal Comparison (0:11)
» High-Hat Comparison (0:35)
» Ride Comparison (1:05)
» Full Kit Comparison (1:30)
The Zildjian K series is one of the most popular ranges of cymbals out on the market today. You’ll find drummers using them across pretty much all genres due to their versatile nature & amazing playability. With a deep sound that is generated due to the unique manner in which they are constructed, the Zildjian K series offers an unbeatable sound and feel that can be heard on multiple records throughout the decades!
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Great comparison. Personally (and it's certainly a personal thing) I'm more with the A's for crashes and the K's for HiHat and Ride
I would actually prefer the other way around! A's for ride and hats and k's for crashes! This is a great example why drums are so fascinating!
K sounds significantly better in my opinion.
The A Customs are way too bright and splashy. for me. Very early '90's sound. I have always been a K guy and the K Custom Darks take me back to Tony Williams, I got into his sound 35 years ago. K Custom Darks and Constaninoples are the best all-rounders. Thoughts?
@@goesjem I agree. The K Dark Thin Crashes are some of the best Zildjian cymbals I’ve heard.
@@adamalexanderray I have 17'' and 19'' K Dark Thins and 17'' and 18'' K Custom Darks. I love the complex and dark slightly trashy tones of the Custom Darks. They are way more complex than the original K Customs from the '90's. What happened to those? They were nice! The Dark Thins have that beautiful dark shimmery overtone. I sometimes find them a little too thin, but they work so well with the Dark Customs.
As usual, this channel is good at convincing me that I need to spend more money! Lol
Both sound good bu I like those Ks!
A Custom is the sound I’m looking for, and the Brilliant finish is beautiful
I think I'd go Ks for the high hats and second crash and As for the first crash and ride. I'd also need a Gong and 6 RotoToms just for giggles.
The A’s are for me . 👍
K are definitely more mellow musical to my hear.
A sound not so good to my ear at very low dynamic(the crashes in particular) coz you need a much powerful stroke than the K to made the mass of the cymbals move.
K are more thinner, sensitive and musical at lower dynamics.
A Was made to cut strong through the mix in every situation with their brightness.
Would be good to have both by the way
Not sure if it was just me but I didn't think either ride really cut through the mix. I know I have lost high frequency hearing over the years.
I’m a teenager with intact hf hearing and i agree with you; could be the mic positioning and direction, the crashes are significantly higher and there wasn’t a lot of compression on the mix
Hard for a ride to cut through with wood tip sticks. I have used Regal Tip Nylon tip with Ping Ride for years and cuts through every band and genre I have played in the past 45 years.
Its the mix
Yeah, the ride are definitely not very loud in the mix
was just thinking that, then in the wide shot i see they are using ribbon mics for overheads. not the choise id go for for a shootout comparison vid, smooth high end roll off isnt the right mic for this. also there is a lot of room sound mixed in here. i wonder if a close mic for each cymbal would have helped give us a better idea of the sounds.
I started out playing Zildjian Avedis in the 1960's before they were called the A Series.
As I transitioned from loud rock to softer pop and jazz, I went to the dark side and started playing Zildjian K models. I tried other brands and models and these came out on top:
Ride: K Custom Dark and Bosphorus
Crash: K Custom Dark and K Dark Thin
Hi hats: Zildjian K Custom Dark and thin vintage Zildjian Avedis, depending on the size of the venue.
These are just my personal preferences. Not everyone's tastes are the same. Like ice cream flavors, choose what is best for you.
Those ks are light years beyond the a customs
I own both but prefer the darks. IMO, the standard As are the most versatile. My go to set up is A hats and crashes with K ride and china.
This is literally the first video I've watched where the K's sound brighter than the A's which is definitely not the case in person!! I have both and I just love how bright the A customs are and how well they cut through a good mix!
What did you listen to this on? The A's are brighter through my earbuds. I read your comment and switched to some good in-ear monitors and still, the A's are brighter
@@jasondrew6369 Yes A´s are brighter of course.....I love em and I have em. I just bought a K Custom dark 14" Hihat, I love it. The K´s sound more complex and rich in tonality, with a lot of depths. But I guess the A Customs are favorite for many Rock drummers, because they really fit well in a Rock band mix. I think both are worth to buy.
@@mrsayang I agree with you, though I have never been a fan of A Customs. They sound thin to me. K Dark Thins and K Custom Darks always seem to blend perfectly in the mix. I just love their warmth.
Nice comparison but I feel like the A customs don't get well-represented sound-wise in this video. Trust me they sound muuch better in real life. Much more clean and glassy sound that will cut through a loud mix like a knife:)
I replied to one of the top comments, without seeing yours yet, and I said the same thing..."glassy and clean". Funny...well I guess its true then :-)
@@eastbaymauiboy Haha that's funny that we share the same picture of them:) Really love my A customs!
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Totally, well they really are like we said. Full disclosure though, I really don't love the hats or rides, even though I've got a 21" 20-year anniversary ride that is pretty okay. The crashes work really well though. They're not overly loud and you can mix them with anything from ultra dark and trashy stuff to loud and bright cymbals and they mix really well. Engineers love em too cuz they make the right noises and are never shrill or overbearing, just purty and musical
@@eastbaymauiboy I've always loved my 14" A custom hat but wasn't really a fan of the rides. However I found a rare Z Mac A custom ride which sounds just like the regular 20" but cleaner and a much more cutting bell. However I do like my A Sweet ride a bit more. The Crashes are def the highlight. And true what you said, I used to mix a 16" K Dark thin with an 18" A custom and worked great! When I play metal though I use the 18" as main and just bought a 19" with it.
I Love Zildjian A Custom Series my favorite Cymbals in my opinion
I have a 16' custom crash A and i would like to mix with a K dark crash 18. Do they play good togheter?
Lay off that snare alitte and I might be able to hear the cymbals lol.
This is more of a dark vs regular sound difference. I’d like to hear A vs K not A vs K dark.
What size is each of the crash cymbals?
These A's sound more like classic Avedis line, which i think is even more thicker!
Strange my a custom 18 crash sound literally almost identical to my 18 k custom . So much so used together toy can't hear which is which...
Thanks for making this video! I own A customs, but am considering K darks. Wondering if anyone can tell me their experiences using both in a studio scenario. Are there advantages to one over the other for tracking? I hear the obvious differences, but from a producer standpoint, any input? Thanks!
Split the difference with a set of K Sweet!
The Ks seem to record better but I do love that A hi-hat, the K crashes are just superb though
Were those the medium A customs?
Paper thin/fast for left crash by the looks (and sound) of it and thin right crash. Medium thin ride too
Laurence Balfour Both seem to be just regular A customs if you read carefully on them it just says Crash
I think the 18 A crash would've sounded good with the K set in place of the K 16. I don't know why, but I really just don't enjoy the tone of a 16 inch crash cymbal.
Cymbals should be good quality and these all are, that’s no1. Then what is better A or K? Because the drums cover the low end with the bass drum and the snare covers the mid range right?
Then the cymbals should cover the best high end the quality high. A wins for that K isn’t necessary! Don’t need K or dark k we need highs. That’s A’s.
Very helpful , thank you .
Something’s off with this mix. There is no way K’s sound brighter amd more cutting than A’s. Ks are warmer darker and deeper, they definitely has a place. But, the A’s cut and are brighter and more defined in person; and nothing better than an A thin crash for cutting through everything. A’s cut K’s blend.
K all the way
Both great cymbal packs. Depends what kind of music for me. I think I have a different K set but My K ride cymbal washes out too easy for me to play hard rock. So the A Custom for that. They rarely show you how easy they wash out in the demo's. They just focus on those super amazing K 15" dark hi hats. That's what sold me anyway. everything else says K dark thin. Both crashes sound good but I like the A customs sound more. It's to bad they broke so easily. If you buy either cymbal pack don't ever let your friends play your drums with them on it. I keep some Wuhans and b8Pro's around for that. They sound okay I guess. there a little more durable and if one gets broken it's not over 200 bucks. I use my expensive cymbals to record and cheaper live or did when I was in a band and played live.
K forever 💓
I play on A's. I wish I played on K's.
K Custom Dark just doesn't cut it for me (apart from the ride). I used to have a pair 14" hats, but I sold it after 6 months. While it's definitely a good cymbal, it is for players that like their cymbals blend in, rather than cut through.
Hey man, I'm in the exact same situation. I have a pair of K dark 14 hats and just ordered a pair of New Beats so I can sell the darks. Problem is there is no music shop in my city which has any Zildjians so testing live was just impossible for me. What was your experience with darks? Did distorted guitars completely kill their sound? I had only one chance to play them with my band, but I was very dissapointed, it's much quiter than I thought. If I don't play them half-open, even I can't hear them
@@andraspeter1114 It is definitely not for amplified music with distorted guitars. Even if you have it miced up, it tends to blend in the music. From Zildjian A New Beat is a good choice, it is a good all-purpose one. It has a more pronounced sound. K/Z also can be a good choice, or A Custom (although I find it a bit too brittle and prefer a Paiste 2002 over it). An alternative solution - if you can find it- is the old Alchemy cymbals. It was an Istanbul Agop "side quest" to create modern cymbals. I don't have the experience with the first generation - when it was only a series within the brand - but I have some which was made under the Alchemy brand name and they are amazing.
The Ks do not cut well in the mix. The K ride is almost lost. The A custom ride is better defined. The drummer is playing a rock pattern so the A customs work better. If he plays a slow jazz tune I´m shure the Ks will sound more musical and better suited.
A CUSTOM... WINNER...
The As are for travis barker types the ks are for musical players the ks are much more complex way more tones way more sensitive to dynamics .. really if your wanting loud rock or metal cymbals paiste is a way better option
Does anyone not notice Matt Damon on drums?
Lol.
More like Fat Damon
The As sound much better in real life
I have same opinion about Paiste 2002. Better in real life than in TH-cam shootouts
Ivan Bajović probably something to do with the eq
Ivan Bajović 2002’s are legendary in real life! I use 14” 2002 sound edge, 17” 2002 thin crash and 19” 2002 medium crash!
Zac McBride Nah with the distance and distortion of the mics most of them don’t really edit or color the sound that much, you would hear it if it would be like that. For example Soundattakk does it.
Also when they are older. New A customs sound ultra bright, even too much...
I’d like the sound of the K’s but the look of the A Customs 😅
The A Customs sound too glassy . Never did like them . The K Cystom Darks sound much more refined . But IMHO neither of them sound as good as my Standard Avedis do . And the Standard A's are less expensive than the others . So it's a win win for the Standard A's .
Honestly, I'm saying the same thing, my man! Every K I've played opens up WAY too quickly for my taste (Have only played some of the sweets, a hybrid or two and a 16" Custom Dark crash)... Not sure... I am thinking about phasing out my 16" Zildjian A, however. 17 is pretty usable, though... Who knows, I could be recording it wrong... Ha!
Nothing beats a customs
A Custom sounds very TYPICAL, I think htat's what CYMBALS should soulds like......
horrible eq on the mics
The mixing is horrible
Wow! I did not like the k custom ride!
Yeah it's not for me either but I have seen a jazz drummer do amazing things with a ride just like it. and a dark k hi hat. No crash cymbals he used the ride for the crash. He play so good I went to see him play once a week for a couple years and I don't really like jazz. His sound was all about that ride.
@@rakridge It's been 5 months since my original comment and I have found myself wanting to buy a dark ride now.....having said that, I do like the ride part of the K custom but I do not enjoy the bell of that cymbal at all. Have found some dark dry rides with very enjoyable bells!
K all day every day❤