seeing the character sheet made me recall how it felt to play 2nd edition D&D. It sold you the player a vision of high adventure, but instead delivered an experience of bookkeeping
@@wittlegoblin Absolutely. That character you speak of in old D&D, plus old MTG cards, used to get me so excited with imagination as a child. Got me hooked.
SAME! Had an older cousin that babysat me when I was little and he bought it at a Toys R Us back in the day and gifted it to me. He'd actually taught me how to play a year previous using some notes he had from when he learned AD&D in the Airforce (TTRPGs used to be super popular in the armed services, as console games weren't as easy to come by back then and it was an entertaining way to pass the time, and if you were in a war, a good way to take your mind off your situation).
Its been a minute since I have seen Realm of Terror. I bought it in the mid 90's for $20, as you could still find them in print. The companion to that set, Forbidden Lore, also included a Tarokka deck. A very cool roleplaying aide to give that extra bit of immersion for Vistani fortune telling. Ravenloft was a great setting, and likely my fave during the 2nd ed. The story telling possibilities they inspire are impressive if you take the time to go down that rabbit hole. I intended only to comment about that, until you mentioned satanic panic. I recall it quite well, sadly, as it had a significant impact on my life. Not because of D&D, but because I often traveled with my parents friends back and forth to India, in ashrams in Pune and Dharmavaram. I was tattooed on my chest there at 6 years old. When I came back to the states, I was constantly harassed by children and adults alike, that I had the mark of the beast on my chest, and that I was evil for carrying around mala beads. The first time I ever heard of D&D, was on TV were a pastor was showing the 1st ed cover for the players handbook, and how evil it was showing monsters being sacrificed as thieves were stealing the idols gem eye. Etc. etc. I recall that moment vividly, because I thought the cover was fantastical and after living in india for so long, I enjoyed fantastic illustrations. And also because I grew to despise western religions because of their hypocrisy. This was at 7 years old. Suffice to say, that when Pat Robertson recently died, I had a sensation of physical relief. He was responsible for so much garbage surrounding oppression of anything remotely non-christian. He empowered people like Jack Chick to illustrate stupid little propaganda pieces aimed at children in the form of comics called "Chick Tracts". Bringing it back to the topic of Ravenloft and 2nd ed, I was playing at a friends house, whose dad and mom played twice a week since the 70's, and we were always loud because all 8 of us were having so much fun roleplaying. Undoubtedly, we could be heard from the street. And one night after our session ended, we walked out and several pamphlets of 'Dark Dungeons' Chick tracts were taped to the door, in order to save our souls from damnation for the evil spirits we were conjuring twice a week... Too bad satanic panic is gaining momentum again. So many lessons we already learned are being repeated... watch your back. Its even less safe to be counterculture now than it was even during the Reagan administration. Sorry for the novel. Writers never know when to shut the hell up. I hope that was interesting enough to inform you about what you asked for.
BTW growing up playing DnD during the Satanic Panic: my general, unwanted nickname at school for being a DnD player was "the Devil Worshipper". I fucking hated it.
As someone who has DMed -that-version-of- (ETA: Just realized I played the previous edition of) Ravenloft, it was mostly chips and vanilla coke. So many great memories from that campaign. :D
It was dumb at the time, too. Even my mom was like, "you know it's not real, right?" No, mom. I somehow completely forgot that books and fiction and stories are only imaginary things because I saw a poorly scribbled demon. 🙄
I had that Ravenloft set, it's awesome, better than anything available now! I was also around during the panic, but I can't stay to talk about it... as I have to head down to the basement to summon a demon right now.
I started playing D&D in the fall of 1976. I was in the 6th grade when my brother came home from a sleep over, and told me about this neat game he had played. I was hooked. My interaction with the "Satanic Panic" is a little involved, so I will keep to the main points. Most were incidents that happened to people I knew. For example, a friend of mine was attacked by a "Jesus Freak," who he took to court, and wouldn't you know, he got a judge who played D&D! An event that happened to me was in 1989, when I was studying with a coven, and we "Encountered," (can't think of a better word,) a police officer. He was surprised when he found out that I was the only member of the coven that played D&D.
Ohh, that story with your brother paints such a beautiful picture! Thank you for sharing that with me. And a D&D playing judge? That's fun. What a ride!
Lets see, when did I start playing D&D, It was 1981 or 1982. I had all the original books by Gary Gygax. I don't even think miniatures for D&D exsisted back then. My parents really thougt it was a devil worshiping game and I had to sneek to friends houses to play. I did manage to get my step dad into the game and then we didn't have to sneek play anymore, but my mom would give is the angry glare from across the room. lol. I haven't thougt about that in a very long time. Great video, Thanks for your content!
Thanks for aging me. My group just finished a year and a half long Curse of Strahd campaign, however, we found our DM was using it to introduce Veccna, who had apparently been manipulating us from the very beginning, and transition into a Planescape campaign.
My first D&D experience was sitting in a friend's family's van, skipping sunday school. Each week we'd pretend to go, but loop back around and hunker down in the back and have a blast. This was in the midst of the "satanic panic", and I've been playing ever since (as well as other TTRPGs).
This was a fun video. :) Even though it makes me feel so old! I was in my teens when that Ravenloft box set came out. Hah... I do miss the box sets though. That era of D&D was amazing.
Some of those finds are not only rare but worth quite a bit! Heck of a find there! I have that box set myself. Love it! 2nd edition Ravenloft was definitely THE STUFF when it came out.
I really hope whoever found the dnd stuff I didn't pick up was super excited. I had the initial impulse to scoop it all up, but I wanted someone else to feel like they hit the jackpot too!
Inkarnate is very easy to use and high quality (and affordable). IMO better than the ones other people have suggested because it is also is great for battle and town maps.
I started playing D&D in the late 80s and was definitely aware of the Satanic Panic, but no one I knew ever gave me a hard time about playing. I think the first time I ever saw the basic D&D box was when my aunt was playing with her college friends. I do recall watching the change in RPG art through the 90s - a lot of nudity and occult symbols disappeared from the books as the game grew in popularity. Related example: the MTG card Unholy Strength had a flaming inverted pentagram in the background of the art prior to the 4th edition printing in the mid 90s. The Ravenloft setting is one of my favorites. If you are looking for an updated take on it for 5E, Curse of Strahd is one of the better adventure books they've published.
@@wittlegoblinI've only played that particular one, but I think our DM said she had found some discussions online about the rough spots to watch out for in the book. She tweaked it a little bit and then of course we wandered off course and had to make up some new things together. I bet you could even pull in the art cards or maps from the old box you got even.
Ravenloft was always aesthetically my thing but I've never played/ran it. Definitely nowadays I'd be more interested in something like Vampire the Masquerade or other gothic/dark systems (No Sacrifice Without Blood and DIE spring to mind) to better capture the vibe. Those older box sets and materials are always so fascinating to me though! Including the art but also the other gaming materials. They feel so specifically tied to TSR and that time, for better and worse haha Thanks for sharing your lovely finds, Witty. It was a delight to see them and only doubly so with your accompanying joy. c:
Thank you sooo much :) Ahh, I've been dying to try out VTM. I feel like it's a game where the people you play with matter even more than other ones. Excited to vamp it up!
@@wittlegoblin Same, same. I remember "playing" it when I was younger specifically as a LARP but mostly people were using it as an excuse to mess around and so I didn't really get a chance to properly try it. I'd be disappointed if that happened now, so I tend to be more on top of pre-campaign discussion which help both align expectations and establish comfort levels. c:
What an amazing find. I remember that starter set. I started with an old version of that in the late 90s. I bought the old ravenloft adventure on drive thru. I think it'd be a great adventure to try dming with!
Actually playing, "The Creature Who Ate Sheboygan" while staying in Sheboygan, Wisconsin is one of the highlights from my college years! Thanks for the reminder of that fateful gaming weekend so many years ago.
I got scammed by a pawn shop that was selling the board game. I didn’t think to inspect it at all. Or look inside. Because when I got it and looked at it. Half of the pieces were gone and the box fell apart. But inside there was some random 2e supplement books. So it wasn’t a total loss.
I found a 2e Spelljammer box *and* some 1e and 2e Greyhawk boxes in a charity bookshop, all in excellent condition with extra setting and adventure books thrown in! One of the Greyhawk boxes even had someone's handwritten character sheet from back in the day! They had way too much hp and way too good an AC for their level so I think they might have been cheating 😆😆
Something you'll encounter as time goes on is that as each generation ages, the things that had people all worked up fade away. Ozzy Osbourne went from being public enemy #1 to concerned Moms, to being a clown with a reality show. Satanic Panic was very real, but those of us that experienced it first hand are 40 years removed from it now. 😅
Well that was an unexpected bit of 2am nostalgia.. On my 12th birthday, back in 1992, I had $100 of birthday money to spend, and went to the comic shop with my dad.. Walked out with that Black Box starter set, and a copy of the Dark Horse book Aliens: Tribes! I absolutely *LOVE* the card system to learn that was in this (the cards all in the DM screen). It was based on a really popular way of teaching that was big in schools at the time. One side tells a chose-your-own-adventure kind of story, the other side explains the background/what happened/how to roll/what skills were used, etc.. And at the end of each "chapter", there's a double-size fold-out sheet to run the adventure up to this point, but for other players! I don't think I'd be the ForeverDM™ I am today if it hadn't been for that box! Ravenloft was great, too! There were a few other box sets that hugely expanded the world.. After having started off DMing the Thunder Rift line of adventures, I went on to a mix of Dragonlance and Ravenloft, before just sticking to Ravenloft! It's great, you can essentially turn *ANY* horror movie into a little pocket-dimension to trap the players in!
Totally owned a pack of those green n white character sheets back in the day (early-mid 90s). Yeah, AD&D 2e was fun. Still had a lot of the weird wargamey holdovers (THAC0, descending AC, etc) but was cleaned up and easier to understand/play than AD&D 1e plus the addition of the "Complete" class and race books gave players more options. 5e really feels like a modernized version of 2e to me. Regarding the Satanic Panic, it was still alive and well in the late 80's/early 90's when I started playing in middle school in the SE USA (Bible Belt). My parents were convinced it was a "gateway" to the Devil, but mellowed out on it after my friends and I played around their dining table a couple of times and they realized it was just nerds playing make-believe and arguing about rules, lol. That being said, we still had a reputation at school for being the "weird" kids, and in a way we embraced that. The "Hellfire" club from Stranger Things was very relatable.
*makes fun of horoscope* I find old dnd has alot more character, less corporate. Honestly one of the things turned me off dnd awhile ago (no hate if others enjoy though). Definitely think its good to explore outside dnd in the roleplay space. Free League publishing doing some amazing work in this space.
I was around during the satanic panic and lived in the Bible belt south. It was like you belonged to a secret society. I'm glad it finally grew out of that. Be thankfully you didn't have to deal with that.
@@wittlegoblin yes be grateful. Though I'm glad we got out of the dark ages. Btw I am the creator at The Polyhedral Knights and would love to send you some of our games. How do I get them to you?
You burned a PILE of gamer thrift store karma with those lol. I spent many hours with friends going thru adventures from that box set, many treks along the Old Svalich Road.
I like to think I retained some of my thrifting karma by not buying ALL of the vintage dnd stuff, I left plenty for others to discover! That's so fun!!
seeing the character sheet made me recall how it felt to play 2nd edition D&D. It sold you the player a vision of high adventure, but instead delivered an experience of bookkeeping
I've heard this! There are so many little things we don't keep track of in my D&D games! Focus is definitely on narrative.
😂 very true!
Love this old and dusty D&D stuff! I actually owned that "easy to master" D&D box back in the day. Was my first D&D purchase as a wee lad.
That's so fun!! These just have so much character, I love it!
@@wittlegoblin Absolutely. That character you speak of in old D&D, plus old MTG cards, used to get me so excited with imagination as a child. Got me hooked.
SAME! Had an older cousin that babysat me when I was little and he bought it at a Toys R Us back in the day and gifted it to me. He'd actually taught me how to play a year previous using some notes he had from when he learned AD&D in the Airforce (TTRPGs used to be super popular in the armed services, as console games weren't as easy to come by back then and it was an entertaining way to pass the time, and if you were in a war, a good way to take your mind off your situation).
Its been a minute since I have seen Realm of Terror. I bought it in the mid 90's for $20, as you could still find them in print. The companion to that set, Forbidden Lore, also included a Tarokka deck. A very cool roleplaying aide to give that extra bit of immersion for Vistani fortune telling. Ravenloft was a great setting, and likely my fave during the 2nd ed. The story telling possibilities they inspire are impressive if you take the time to go down that rabbit hole.
I intended only to comment about that, until you mentioned satanic panic. I recall it quite well, sadly, as it had a significant impact on my life. Not because of D&D, but because I often traveled with my parents friends back and forth to India, in ashrams in Pune and Dharmavaram. I was tattooed on my chest there at 6 years old. When I came back to the states, I was constantly harassed by children and adults alike, that I had the mark of the beast on my chest, and that I was evil for carrying around mala beads.
The first time I ever heard of D&D, was on TV were a pastor was showing the 1st ed cover for the players handbook, and how evil it was showing monsters being sacrificed as thieves were stealing the idols gem eye. Etc. etc. I recall that moment vividly, because I thought the cover was fantastical and after living in india for so long, I enjoyed fantastic illustrations. And also because I grew to despise western religions because of their hypocrisy. This was at 7 years old.
Suffice to say, that when Pat Robertson recently died, I had a sensation of physical relief. He was responsible for so much garbage surrounding oppression of anything remotely non-christian. He empowered people like Jack Chick to illustrate stupid little propaganda pieces aimed at children in the form of comics called "Chick Tracts".
Bringing it back to the topic of Ravenloft and 2nd ed, I was playing at a friends house, whose dad and mom played twice a week since the 70's, and we were always loud because all 8 of us were having so much fun roleplaying. Undoubtedly, we could be heard from the street. And one night after our session ended, we walked out and several pamphlets of 'Dark Dungeons' Chick tracts were taped to the door, in order to save our souls from damnation for the evil spirits we were conjuring twice a week... Too bad satanic panic is gaining momentum again. So many lessons we already learned are being repeated... watch your back. Its even less safe to be counterculture now than it was even during the Reagan administration.
Sorry for the novel. Writers never know when to shut the hell up. I hope that was interesting enough to inform you about what you asked for.
No no don't apologize, thank you for sharing!
I HAD that Ravenloft box and I loved it and lost it many years ago and I'd forgotten how lovely its contents were.
It's so fun!!
BTW growing up playing DnD during the Satanic Panic: my general, unwanted nickname at school for being a DnD player was "the Devil Worshipper". I fucking hated it.
AD&D 2nd Edition was the best of times
Yes. Yes, it was.
I love old school D and D it is great
As someone who has DMed -that-version-of- (ETA: Just realized I played the previous edition of) Ravenloft, it was mostly chips and vanilla coke. So many great memories from that campaign. :D
OMG. Somewhere I have that exact same catalog. Just that was super cool to read over at the time.
It was dumb at the time, too. Even my mom was like, "you know it's not real, right?" No, mom. I somehow completely forgot that books and fiction and stories are only imaginary things because I saw a poorly scribbled demon. 🙄
Ahhh I love it, thank you for sharing with me!! Gotta have chips at the table 👏
man that's a blast from the past.
I had that Ravenloft set, it's awesome, better than anything available now! I was also around during the panic, but I can't stay to talk about it... as I have to head down to the basement to summon a demon right now.
happy summoning!
@@wittlegoblin "Come forth Demon Ship!"
I started playing D&D in the fall of 1976. I was in the 6th grade when my brother came home from a sleep over, and told me about this neat game he had played. I was hooked. My interaction with the "Satanic Panic" is a little involved, so I will keep to the main points. Most were incidents that happened to people I knew. For example, a friend of mine was attacked by a "Jesus Freak," who he took to court, and wouldn't you know, he got a judge who played D&D! An event that happened to me was in 1989, when I was studying with a coven, and we "Encountered," (can't think of a better word,) a police officer. He was surprised when he found out that I was the only member of the coven that played D&D.
Ohh, that story with your brother paints such a beautiful picture! Thank you for sharing that with me. And a D&D playing judge? That's fun. What a ride!
I really love the older D&D stuff. That was when I really enjoyed playing. (Pieces)
Honestly having only played 5e, I want to try playing this!!
@@wittlegoblin you should get your game group to run through it! Maybe adapt it to an OSR rule set?
Lets see, when did I start playing D&D, It was 1981 or 1982. I had all the original books by Gary Gygax. I don't even think miniatures for D&D exsisted back then. My parents really thougt it was a devil worshiping game and I had to sneek to friends houses to play. I did manage to get my step dad into the game and then we didn't have to sneek play anymore, but my mom would give is the angry glare from across the room. lol. I haven't thougt about that in a very long time. Great video, Thanks for your content!
Woah, your stepdad just needed to see for himself! Can you imagine if all the anti-dnd people back then got to just give it a try?! Thank you!!
look for the TSR Master catalog it was a hard back that had all of the releases for TSR for 1993. A really great D&D and other RPG time capsule
woaaah, that sounds awesome
Thanks for aging me. My group just finished a year and a half long Curse of Strahd campaign, however, we found our DM was using it to introduce Veccna, who had apparently been manipulating us from the very beginning, and transition into a Planescape campaign.
Oh heyyy, Vecna! Haha dang!
My first D&D experience was sitting in a friend's family's van, skipping sunday school. Each week we'd pretend to go, but loop back around and hunker down in the back and have a blast. This was in the midst of the "satanic panic", and I've been playing ever since (as well as other TTRPGs).
Skipping sunday school to play dnd haha oh wow, love it!
the look of horror when you realize you are also vintage
I know! I'd already been playing AD&D for over a decade when Ravenloft came out!🧛♂⚰👻
Incredible find.
I still have a few of my old first edition books and a few old minis but so many lost over the years. Fun to see your vintage stuff!
Treasure! That's so cool you still have those.
This was a fun video. :) Even though it makes me feel so old! I was in my teens when that Ravenloft box set came out. Hah... I do miss the box sets though. That era of D&D was amazing.
A teen in the aesthetically coolest era of dnd, I love it!
I love Wonderdraft for mapmaking. Super easy and fun to use.
Thank you!
Some of those finds are not only rare but worth quite a bit! Heck of a find there! I have that box set myself. Love it! 2nd edition Ravenloft was definitely THE STUFF when it came out.
I seeing you excited about things! we did like the dnd movie. wasn't amazing, but it was fun.
and sheboygan is like a half hour north of me!
I felt the same way about the movie- and whaaat?! Sheboygan is so fun to say.
It's fun to visit too. Beautiful beach and nice people.
whelp, that was so great. I can only hope to be HALF as lucky to find something cool like that!! I would go berserk on all that old stuff.
I really hope whoever found the dnd stuff I didn't pick up was super excited. I had the initial impulse to scoop it all up, but I wanted someone else to feel like they hit the jackpot too!
Inkarnate is very easy to use and high quality (and affordable). IMO better than the ones other people have suggested because it is also is great for battle and town maps.
I started playing D&D in the late 80s and was definitely aware of the Satanic Panic, but no one I knew ever gave me a hard time about playing. I think the first time I ever saw the basic D&D box was when my aunt was playing with her college friends. I do recall watching the change in RPG art through the 90s - a lot of nudity and occult symbols disappeared from the books as the game grew in popularity. Related example: the MTG card Unholy Strength had a flaming inverted pentagram in the background of the art prior to the 4th edition printing in the mid 90s.
The Ravenloft setting is one of my favorites. If you are looking for an updated take on it for 5E, Curse of Strahd is one of the better adventure books they've published.
I've considered running a Curse of Strahd for my first ever time DMing!!
@@wittlegoblinI've only played that particular one, but I think our DM said she had found some discussions online about the rough spots to watch out for in the book. She tweaked it a little bit and then of course we wandered off course and had to make up some new things together. I bet you could even pull in the art cards or maps from the old box you got even.
Love old school dnd stuff. Cool to both me and my son.
Love that you can share in the joy together!
@@wittlegoblin Right now his friends are classic murder hobos but they are 10-12 year olds.
Soooo cool, that art is all fantastic and it's just really neat to explore the roots of the game. Thanks for sharing!
History! So fun. Thank you, Ben!!
Such great finds!
the thirft gods smiled upon me!
I had the Dark Sun box set in high school.
Ravenloft was always aesthetically my thing but I've never played/ran it. Definitely nowadays I'd be more interested in something like Vampire the Masquerade or other gothic/dark systems (No Sacrifice Without Blood and DIE spring to mind) to better capture the vibe. Those older box sets and materials are always so fascinating to me though! Including the art but also the other gaming materials. They feel so specifically tied to TSR and that time, for better and worse haha
Thanks for sharing your lovely finds, Witty. It was a delight to see them and only doubly so with your accompanying joy. c:
Thank you sooo much :) Ahh, I've been dying to try out VTM. I feel like it's a game where the people you play with matter even more than other ones. Excited to vamp it up!
@@wittlegoblin Same, same. I remember "playing" it when I was younger specifically as a LARP but mostly people were using it as an excuse to mess around and so I didn't really get a chance to properly try it. I'd be disappointed if that happened now, so I tend to be more on top of pre-campaign discussion which help both align expectations and establish comfort levels. c:
Try out hexographer for mapping.
What an amazing find. I remember that starter set. I started with an old version of that in the late 90s. I bought the old ravenloft adventure on drive thru. I think it'd be a great adventure to try dming with!
Soooo cool. And I can't say no to adventure!!
Good finds! Just found a board game at garage sale.
Hey what was that monastery you visited? I'll be in Spain myself in a few days!
Monasterio de pedrables! I really recommend it, it’s incredible!
Oh, and have fun!!!
Omg that is so cool! I need to check out the thrift stores for hidden treasures! Don’t know if I’ll pass my perception checks though
haha it's certainly worth a shot!!
Actually playing, "The Creature Who Ate Sheboygan" while staying in Sheboygan, Wisconsin is one of the highlights from my college years! Thanks for the reminder of that fateful gaming weekend so many years ago.
I got scammed by a pawn shop that was selling the board game. I didn’t think to inspect it at all. Or look inside. Because when I got it and looked at it. Half of the pieces were gone and the box fell apart. But inside there was some random 2e supplement books. So it wasn’t a total loss.
Oh dang!!
I found a 2e Spelljammer box *and* some 1e and 2e Greyhawk boxes in a charity bookshop, all in excellent condition with extra setting and adventure books thrown in! One of the Greyhawk boxes even had someone's handwritten character sheet from back in the day! They had way too much hp and way too good an AC for their level so I think they might have been cheating 😆😆
haha wow, what a find! caught in the act (however many years later...)
Something you'll encounter as time goes on is that as each generation ages, the things that had people all worked up fade away. Ozzy Osbourne went from being public enemy #1 to concerned Moms, to being a clown with a reality show. Satanic Panic was very real, but those of us that experienced it first hand are 40 years removed from it now. 😅
Get ready for the sequel, because its coming back stronger than ever thanks for evangelicals being empowered;.
I love that auto caption calls ya Woody. Hi Woody!
Also anyone who’s here to bully you about your horoscope is gonna have to get through me first 😤
I’m woody, howdy howdy howdy 🤠 and that’s right!!
I'm kinda jealous of the quality of your thrift store 😂
I think after this great find I'll definitely be going back there more often!
Ha ha you read Witty 😂
15 bucks for a Realm of Terror boxset. I would fight someone over that deal, that's an amazing find.
I left other vintage dnd stuff behind so someone else could experience the excitement I did, I hope whoever found it is so happy!
Well that was an unexpected bit of 2am nostalgia.. On my 12th birthday, back in 1992, I had $100 of birthday money to spend, and went to the comic shop with my dad.. Walked out with that Black Box starter set, and a copy of the Dark Horse book Aliens: Tribes!
I absolutely *LOVE* the card system to learn that was in this (the cards all in the DM screen). It was based on a really popular way of teaching that was big in schools at the time. One side tells a chose-your-own-adventure kind of story, the other side explains the background/what happened/how to roll/what skills were used, etc.. And at the end of each "chapter", there's a double-size fold-out sheet to run the adventure up to this point, but for other players! I don't think I'd be the ForeverDM™ I am today if it hadn't been for that box!
Ravenloft was great, too! There were a few other box sets that hugely expanded the world.. After having started off DMing the Thunder Rift line of adventures, I went on to a mix of Dragonlance and Ravenloft, before just sticking to Ravenloft! It's great, you can essentially turn *ANY* horror movie into a little pocket-dimension to trap the players in!
Those are some great finds
Hey Witty! Have you tried Wonderdraft for a fantasy map maker?
Oh! I have not!
I'm Aquarius, born on Valentine's Day. Yes I'm the sweetest.
haha love it
Not only have I not played Curse of Strahd, I haven't played any module! I think it would be so fun!
Totally owned a pack of those green n white character sheets back in the day (early-mid 90s). Yeah, AD&D 2e was fun. Still had a lot of the weird wargamey holdovers (THAC0, descending AC, etc) but was cleaned up and easier to understand/play than AD&D 1e plus the addition of the "Complete" class and race books gave players more options. 5e really feels like a modernized version of 2e to me.
Regarding the Satanic Panic, it was still alive and well in the late 80's/early 90's when I started playing in middle school in the SE USA (Bible Belt). My parents were convinced it was a "gateway" to the Devil, but mellowed out on it after my friends and I played around their dining table a couple of times and they realized it was just nerds playing make-believe and arguing about rules, lol. That being said, we still had a reputation at school for being the "weird" kids, and in a way we embraced that. The "Hellfire" club from Stranger Things was very relatable.
Awesome! Very nice finds
Glad you enjoyed, thank you so much!
*makes fun of horoscope* I find old dnd has alot more character, less corporate. Honestly one of the things turned me off dnd awhile ago (no hate if others enjoy though). Definitely think its good to explore outside dnd in the roleplay space. Free League publishing doing some amazing work in this space.
dnd is a great gateway but it's a big, wide, weird world out there!
Even your eyebags are cute! 🥺
Thank you? 😅
If you make being in a Curse of Strahd game that you're DMing a Patreon tier, I will yeet myself so hard into that tier, lmao
haha oh dang, I like the way you think!
@@wittlegoblin, felt like an idea worth voicing
Cool channel!
Thanks so much!!
Inkcarnate is a great map making site. Since you asked. And I'm a scorpio. Don't hate. Lol
Ha! I would never (I have a Scorpio Venus placement apparently?)
I was around during the satanic panic and lived in the Bible belt south. It was like you belonged to a secret society. I'm glad it finally grew out of that. Be thankfully you didn't have to deal with that.
Wow, I bet it feels like just yesterday and like another lifetime ago simultaneously. I feel very grateful!
@@wittlegoblin yes be grateful. Though I'm glad we got out of the dark ages. Btw I am the creator at The Polyhedral Knights and would love to send you some of our games. How do I get them to you?
Can I make fun of you for the horoscope and tell you mine anyways? I'm a damn fish.
haha absolutely you can
You've only ever played 5th ed, poor girl.
Wasn't the art great back in the day
You burned a PILE of gamer thrift store karma with those lol. I spent many hours with friends going thru adventures from that box set, many treks along the Old Svalich Road.
I like to think I retained some of my thrifting karma by not buying ALL of the vintage dnd stuff, I left plenty for others to discover! That's so fun!!