Grave Injustice: Traditional Priests Stripped Of Faculties, Kicked Out Of Diocese
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We belong to a different TLM community in the other New Zealand North Island (FSSR discussed here are based in the South Island). Myself and I'm sure all our other TLM members (about 300-500 people) have found the FSSR very supportive to our community. Their small order of Priests, brothers and nuns are pious, helpful, caring & exemplary in all their dealings with us as faithful. They are the only order in NZ who are able to offer Gregorian Masses for our passed away loved ones. All this is in addition to serving their own TLM community in Christchurch, of which we know many members who also sing their praises. Why aren't we (the majority of both congregations ) asked and consulted ? The answer is because we have No complaints ! Only compliments, satisfaction and appreciation!!!
The group was founded almost 40 years ago. Fr Michael was a NO redemptorist priest who went to Econe and established a traditional Cssr community under the guidance of the SSPX. They prosper on Papa Stronsay.
When P. Benedict established the rights for Tradition, they returned to papal authority.
Let's pray for a good resolve and for these holy priests.
@@Oldparson220 Amen!!
Yet false teachers are allowed to openly change Catholic teachings.
Anthony, don't forget to stop to rest while doing all this driving...You look knackered my Friend 😅. God love you
As Our Lady of LaSallette said; "Rome will lose the Faith". The Vatican II Sect is not Catholic and has no Authority as they are the true schismatics. All we have to do is keep living our Faith. Adhere to the teachings of true Popes like Pius X. Pray the Rosary daily. God will soon intervene.
From your lips -- and ours! -- to God's ears! Pray for the Remnant Faithful, whetever they are!
Pray for erring "catholics" who know no better.
Pray for the apostate and heretical prelates that the scales on their eyes may be lifted!
Ave Maria, Gratia Plena!
The tempo of late is to accept all forms of worship, even types originating from indigenous tribes. You might think that kind of tolerance would allow for the TLM, but they have a hatred of the TLM, and all of that should make every one of us take a serious second look at the TLM for our own benefit.
Yes! 👍🙏
This is totally sick. I personally know some who are members of this particular fraternity. They are nothing less than the best of the best. Praying for all of them. God help Holy Mother Church who is suffering this spiritual crucifiction from withing. Lord Jesus, Blessed Mother, please protect Your Spiritual Children who desire nothing more than to do Your Holy Will! amen
A prayer of exorcism is done during baptism even of small children…
@MarinaOliveira-jo2te only in the traditional rite. The priest specifically says "I command you in Jesus Name". The new "rite" simply says "Jesus exorcised demons."
And that is exactly what these priests did to children who has been baptised in the NO
@lynhayes3421 you clearly have not read the liturgy of both rituals side by side. They are NOT the same AT ALL
I'm not Catholic but think the Tridentine Mass (TLM) is beautiful. Why can there not be room for both? I feel bad for those Catholics who want the Traditional Mass (I've attended the Novus Ordo and think it's abominable).
The Novus Ordo was created after Vatican II, because the documents were ambiguously written to purposely be “interpreted”. I grew up in the Novus Ordo. I didn’t realize it was “The Ape of the Church” until the commie lockdown! That’s when I found a SSPX open chapel and never missed a Sunday Mass. I never went back to my parish of 40+ years, where we got married and all our kids got their Sacraments including marriage! My youngest is the only one that didn’t get married there, due to the lockdown. So they got married in the town her husband is from. Now I have to pray that all my children leave the Novus Ordo. They are still blinded by “The veil”. I need patience. Salve Regina! ⚜️
I'm not Roman Catholic (however most of my Dad's side of the family are), however as an Evangelical Catholic (High Church Lutheran), when I first attended in 2000, the congregation I went to (part of the so-called "Evangelical Lutheran Church" in America, which is neither Evangelical-Lutheran, nor a Church, but a Synagogue of Satan due to "The Decision" in 2009) used a variation of the "Novous Ordo 'Mass'" first used in 1978 (Lutheran Book of Worship). Fast-forward 12 years later and undertaking my studies at the seminary operated by the Independent Lutheran Diocese, I come across their liturgy, which is based from the Common Liturgy standardized in 1888 (coming 318 years after Pope Pius V promulgated the TLM, which was the "standardization" of the Roman Rite). The Common Liturgy, especially in The Lutheran Hymnal of 1941 (of which Concordia Publishing House, the publishing arm of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod still holds a few copyrights to some hymns), comes closest to a pre-1955 pocket Missal except that the Propers and Lectionary makes use of the King James Version of the Bible and the Augustana Rite Canon of the Mass is the stripped-down version (Words of Institution and Lord's Prayer); even though Martin Luther, in 1523 with his "Formula Missæ", uses a Canon closer in format to that of the ancient Anaphora of Hippolytus of Rome (and retained by the Church of Sweden before they revised their liturgy after 1970 to reflect the Vatican II and Ecumenical Movement; the Service Book and Hymnal of 1958 was the first American Lutheran liturgy to use a Eucharistic Prayer, but was based on the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, not the Roman or even Anglican Canon). Now as an ordained presbyter/priest in the Independent Lutheran Diocese, I use The Lutheran Hymnal, however, I have also used the Anaphora of Hippolytus of Rome as well, using that liturgy in the format of the Church of Sweden's liturgy (Martin Luther's "Formula Missæ" lacked a Proper Preface, but added the Sanctus, which is missing from the Hippolytus Anaphora) when using the liturgy outside of my home congregation.
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Keep it brief
They're attempting to get rid of it because it is powerful. The Graces are abundant compared to the watered down Novus Ordo. The TLM is the red pill that they don't want anyone to take.
Come back to the TLM and become a Catholic.
Orémus Y'all.
It started because they would not demand a wife to go back to her abusive husband. That's what the accusations re family were about. Not even mentioned in the report. They had permission for the few exorcism and tbe Diocese asked them to do them
That's interesting because I heard there wasn't permission for the exorcisms. Good to know that wasn't the case.
@@carolfoxe1971 That's what they wanted everyone to think. Hopefully the lawyers will help expose things. The Bishop has certainly acted illegally
This is insane. This is no good I must pray more.
@ReturntoTradition, I recall the Transalpine Redemptorists did an extensive address of the accusations, maybe last year or so.
A priest may pray prayers of minor exorcism without the express permission of the bishop, and in fact such prayers are part of the liturgy of the traditional Mass; is that what they're talking about?
I could see people not understanding the difference.
🌹 Ave Maria
Thank you so much for this. How sad. I started watching the Papa stronsay live stream a few months ago. They are so Holy. I dont know why the crack down on all the aholy people.
Fr. Feeney did NOT deny baptism of desire. Members of his Jesuit order and diocesan priests were pushing a false definition of baptism of desire (They claimed non Catholics who actively rejected church teachings, even those persecuting Catholics, are saved by baptism of desire without repentance nor accepting church teaching. A variation of all dogs go to heaven). And Fr. Feeney had the intestinal fortitude to fraternally correct them and go to their superiors when they persisted in their error. The superiors, instead of correcting the wayward priests, instead abruptly and unilaterally reassigned Fr Feeney in violation of all rules of the order. when he appealed, they accused him of disobedience and pilloried him far and wide in the press, where they had many allies. As well as stripped his faculties and excommunicated him.
Lather rinse repeat. This is what they did to Lefebvre and many other priests who stood up for the true faith. And clearly still doing today. Just like political leftists their playbook never changes.
Fr. Feeney denied
Baptism of Desire / Blood AS TAUGHT BY THE CHURCH.
Yet, when they obeyed the commies and locked down, we were supposed to not ask questions? I asked priests lots of questions, before the lockdown. The good priests didn’t mind my questions, the other priests got mad and avoided me. One good priest (the good ones got transferred quickly) was an exorcist priest from El Salvador! He let me drive him over an hour to my son’s house, to bless his home. New home on 2 acres with a large pond. He used a booklet and told us it was an exciting sun prayer. He went in every room and all around the property. My son’s 6 boys followed like little ducklings! We recited the rosary with him, as he led in prayer. I’m so thankful he did that for my family, I know it keeps them safe. ♥️🙏🏼☦️
That's the Ironclad Law of Leftist Projection....it never misses.
@brandywineblue
THANK you, Brandy, for standing up for poor, maligned and diabolically-calumniated Fr. Feeney! He was truly pilloried in public. 😭💔🙏🙏🙏
Falsely excommunicated, everything. It nearly broke the poor man.
@fairyspunfibers9098 His was one of the first mysteries I had to unravel when I came back to the church, along with Abp Lefebvre and a few others!
Ave Maria. BTW, Anthony, I have all my notifications on and rise around 0400 our time. I have not gotten a live stream notification in months.
Transalpine redemptorist should ask for information in writing.
@@concernedcitizen780 and.....?
They have but have not been given a reason.
@@lynhayes3421 true
Basically Rome is saying that the traditional priests are not teaching the bogus ordo theology including but not limited to the new sexual morality. If they were to spell it out, the congregation would rebel, as they should.
When they broadcast their Masses, I saw the Rector address the issue with local person accusing them of issue but haven’t looked to see if it is still on TH-cam
I didn’t even realize it until you mentioned it but yes, I don’t think I’ve been getting the drop down notification banners for a while now (just for your channel).
I still get notified on the Bell 🔔 but that includes all my subs.
I would move to Rmbl but their (UI) needs some work to say the least.
I'm from Toowoomba, Australia and Bishop McGukin was our Bishop until he retired 1 year ago. Not surprised at his decision
3:46 I wonder if ‘interfering with family life’ is code for preaching against contraception?
How far will the demonic forces go? 🙏🏼
The guy in charge of Sensum fidelium channel used to help the fssr with their website
Does this mean that people will NOT have access to exorcisms? This is equivalent to being very ill and being denied access to the Emergency Room.
The feeling of the faith is modernism.
Anthony is traveling and mentioned there might be difficulties in broadcasting.
Our father who art in heaven hellowed be thou name thou kingdom come thou will be done on earth as it is in heaven give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespass as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil 🙏 ❤
Why were they told to leave?! I’m sick of the canned phrase “ for the good of the faithful.” For the good of who? and how? Is this for our good. Where is charity, accompaniment, and dialog and all their hyperbabal!? This is hardly a demonstration of Christ. “ Go and learn the meaning of mercy!”
Safe travels home Anthony
Yeah, I've given up on yt notifications. Of all the 100+ channels I subscribe to, there are only two I get notifications for and both of those are small and only post videos (no livestreams).
Wow, don't mess with the Scotts!
These are the most holy of priests and this viciousness that they have encountered is nothing short of nefarious..nz is a very secular country to our shame ...the redemptorists have been up against it pretty much from the beginning..please pray for them and all the broken hearted latin mass families who have been destroyed by the vaticans actions..no surprise there....
Our Parish had two fathers, who were devoted to reciting the hours, and praying the Latin Mass, privately
Their Novus Ordo Mass were amazing. They always used the Roman canon, and made it so beautiful. The church building was charged with spiritual love. The fathers left two years ago now, I still miss them.
This is morally repugnant!
It’s happened to religious too. Their voices are rarely heard and the laity too often don’t support them.
Fr Feeney was NOT EXCOMMUNICATED for his teaching!! He was excommunicated for disobedience to his bishop!
@@Annabanana727but he was not disobedient either.
@@brandywineblue That was the charge, however. In the end, we must always decide, if there is a conflict, to "obey God rather than man."
These priests were the ones who originally brought me to the Faith, I am still involved with the SSPX wing of the Transalpine Redemptorists who didn't reconcile with Rome. I am now a Sedevacantist but the Son's will always hold a dear place in my heart.
Seemingly they have been carrying out Exorcisms without the permission of the ordinary, I spoke with one of the principal priest's brother's, who happens to be a monk and he confirmed that the Exorcisms had taken place. If this is the case then i'm afraid the Bishop was right in removing their faculties, though I think booting them out of the Diocese seems slightly heavy-handed, given certain priests and religious may have other personal commitments within the Diocese. Praying for the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer.
A priest may pray prayers of minor exorcism without the express permission of the bishop; is that what they're talking about?
@anng.4542 I am willing to bet my last dollar that they performed minor exorcisms, such as those of salt and of baptismal candidates, and this is exactly what the bishop is vaguely referring to.
No trad worthy of the slur would attempt exorcism without a mandate from the bishop. Traditionalists know it won't be effective without it
@@anng.4542 No full Exorcism's unfortunately.
@@TartanCatholic I know for a fact they had permission from the bishop to do exorcisms.
@@TartanCatholicif those who are troubled with evil spirits can relieve their sufferings by attending Mass and praying their rosary. They can pray continually, especially the rosary, to keep the evil spirits subdued. Exorcists say that that’s what they need to do after an exorcism anyway. Just pray, pray, pray. Get ready for Heaven! ;)
Sound vidual ok at 3 min in...
This is my country. Recently they made the media for doing exorcisms which were a little weird. They are nothing like our SSPX priests here. Lets pray for them. Bernie
Bernie, you really shouldn't believe everything you see and hear on the TV these days. There was so much falsity and untruthfulness in the programme on TV last year.
These priests ( and monks and nuns) are faithful, faith-filled, traditional priests who preach truth.
They are being persecuted because of this, and there are people out there who will do and say whatever it takes to try to remove them.
As a member of their congregation, I have only ever experienced positive interactions with them.
God bless them and protect them for all evil.
Wow - this news is close to home!
Really sorry to hear the news.
Typical - the good ones are being attacked while heretics roam free.
Great show thank you 🔥👏😎.
God bless, Ave Maria 🙏⛪⚓👑.
P.S. I listened to this one again - thanks for covering Catholic news in N.Z 👏.
you know it
The rationale only has to sound plausible
I get notifications on time
Father Cekada and SSPX have written about the error of Father Feeney in his denial of Baptism of Desire AS HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY TAUGHT BY THE CHURCH .
yeah baptism of desire is sending many to hell 5 ecumenical councils say water baptism, an its an anathema to deny water
@@sleepystar1638 I encourage you to read St. Thomas Aquinas on Baptism in general and specifically on The Necessity of Baptism. There he explains baptism of Desire.
The Church’s teaching on baptism of desire is NOT the modernist definition.
@TheNarrowGate101 Not sure how people come to conclusion that Fr Feeney was wrong on teaching what the church has always taught on Baptism of Desire....when other Jesuits and diocesan priests were actively teaching a false definition of it!
@@brandywineblue you do not understand the topic. Read St
Thomas Aquinas on The Necessity of Baptism.
@TheNarrowGate101 BoD has not been "consistently" taught by the Church, and has never been formally defined. This is difficult to do, since it seems to directly conflict the words of Christ. We can believe in our Merciful God, who knows the mind and intention of each of us. He may well have a separate means for those who cannot conform to His Words, but we can't preach that as fact; causing delay in may who should be taking those WORDS Seriously
With 17 complaints and monks leaving the order, something is clearly up…
Monks left the Order because they foolishly surrendered to the Roman authorities and the local ordinaries have been trying to destroy them ever since. They never needed to do so, but they were fooled into going back under the very authorities which destroyed Tradition to start.
The 17 complaints were made by people that used to go there but had various falling outs and have an agenda against the them. The complaints were disproven in an investigation but the media won't report that.
Waddaya expect with the vicar of Satan on Peter's Seat⁉️‼️
Read the New Testament, The Word of God, know Jesus.
Sowing discord with dubious facts.
Who?
I'm a convert who thought that Novus Ordo was basically the only Church for 15 years before finding out about TLM, V2, etc. Can someone explain to me why priests, and members of religious orders can't just move to the SSPX, or similar? I'm sure there is a canonical reason why this isn't done, but I don't know what it is.
@@GldnrR31t3r the SSPX have limited resources and very strict standards on who they admit. Plus there's enough antisspx propaganda that keeps many from considering them
@@ReturnToTradition Thanks for the answer! So, it sounds like this CAN be done... it just never IS done. Thanks again.
We've had 2 diocesan priests who became FSSP priests in our FSSP parish, so that's possible at least.
They BEAGN in affiliation with the SSPX and then were lured back into the Conciliar fraud in 2012.
@@maryharrington8983 But the FSSP are in communion with same-sex blessing clerics and have to say that the sacraments offered by such men are valid. It makes zero sense to have a boutique chapel in a vast edifice of heresy, blasphemy, offenses to God, perverse doctrines.
The Rising of the ocult, requires holy actions through one exorcism, which does not require permission from the Diocese, normally
Were previous teachings of the Church which have been withdrawn actually lies?
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Try renewing the video. I'm getting sound and picture after 3:00.
@@Wicknews8100 You're very welcome!
Why can't the sons comment and clear the air???
Hello? Are you there?
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When you click on notifications for Tucker or Glen Beck most of the time you get a message from utube video not available. So they are either dropping videos or notifications on things they think might state the truth. I appreciate all your Return to Tradition messages but I rarely respond as I have been put in time out for reposting some of your and other important messages. ❤🙏🙏🙏
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After the Boston Heresy Case is an excellent book on the Fr. Feeney controversy.
Isn't an exorcism performed at each baptism?
Considering the source of this "news", I'm afraid I'll have to take it with a pound or three of salt, Anthony! I call b.s. until we KNOW the specific complaints. "Father said something that made me feel guilty." *_Does. Not. Cut. It!_*
Pray for these most likely maligned men! God have mercy on them...and may He punish those Faithless Bishops, or Convert them!
Praying you made it home safely, by now. In Jesus' Name, Amen! 🙏🙏🙏
Oh my goodness! Just realized what my sentence sounded like like! I meant the report from the Diocese, slamming the Fathers. I just don't believe it's the truth.
Sorry, Anthony! Am sick as a dog with what feels like pneumonia. Can hardly think..oy...!
I am in this Diocese. I have some knowledge of this case. The Sons of The Holy Redeemer have not helped themselves; they have ignored the Bishop, they have created an order of nuns without approval or notification to the Bishop; they practiced exorcisms that did not conform to the regulations, nor do they have faculties to perform them; they are obstructive, difficult to deal with and it’s always someone else’s fault. They have harmed a number of people and have the hallmarks of a cult.
It’s not about the TLM; the TLM remains and our Bishop is favourable to the TLM.
It’s disturbing how many people feel free to comment without knowing facts and doing simple Google searches.
You're a funny one aren't you. 🤡 I don't believe you are honest.
They have not created an order of nuns without approval, in fact the bishop said mass before processing with the Blessed Sacrament to the home of the nuns, before placing the Blessed Sacrament in the Tabernacle in their wee chapel. This would not have been done if the bishop did not know about of their order.
These are good and holy priests and they do not deserve the accusations being laid against them.
They are certainly NOT a cult
But wasn't the entire Arian Aryan Church in Germany recently put under Interdict by the Pope for both Heresy and Schism?
Darn, I just woke up.
No they can’t give more details. Until the allegations are proven it is unwise to list them
These Monastic Orders have done mistakes so mamy times mainly because of thier own lack of education in Catholic laws and rules they knew nothing of. Since Monastic life started around The Catholic Church history has always found dirt on these guys and why? Kicked out family members of the aristocrats, weathly criminals, political asylum seekers with a price on thier head, Knights that robbed the enemy country too much and homosexual rich trying to hide thier pasts. If anyone gets upset over this then don't.
These Monks may be a safe haven for trouble and if so, it may be better to catch them now, the "Illeagal Excorsism" was the alert to me that these guys are under question for something.
Don't ever get distressed over Monastic issues and single them to the Faith at all. History repeats itself often with these Religuouse groups.