But that's what u rlly are supposed to do ._. push while there's a team fight so u can have turret advantage or even take out all of the towers while the enemies are distracted u need to use the chance to push for turret gold and advantage
I don't think its that effective, damage build is more useful, even though you're getting attack speed to activate your passive frequently, his first skill will have lower damage and will make it less spammable, this build makes granger reliant on basic attack.
@@Crizzlep that’s not how it works, it only uses the main role, in khufras case he is a tank/support. So he has full benefit of war axe as his main role is tank.
The best build for granger is the BURST items because when it comes to atk speed he can only get 40% also he cannot poke the enemies easily so the best build that fits to him is burst items.
The only point of building Granger with attack speed items is to use his last bullet more often, building him with just a few will definitely not be as useful, so when using him with attack speed items, build him with full attack speed items.
the problem with the current granger update was movespeed items doesnt work anymore. granger doesnt necessarily need to much attackspeed. he needs more movement speed
He has already second skill with low CD. He doesnt need movement speed. If other one gets buff then the other should get nerfed, buff movement speed then nerf damage
yeah looks looks like granger will still remain as the only caster mm in ml which at this point become unique to him glad they aren't trying to make him like other mm
Hanabi is the only Marksman that doesn't need Lifesteal Items Beatrix is the only Marksman that doesn't need Critical Items Kimmy is the only Marksman that uses Magic items.
@@walkinganimepedia Natan is perfect with Concentrated Energy... And it seem he prefer NoD rather than SeaH.. But yeah... nathan isnt good with other Magic Item
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Stfu nob she can use vengeance it is the new meta it works well with all her skills. 1st skill give movement and camo 2nd skill pushes away enemy and ult allows you to fire from safe distance. Joking all her skills are opposite to what vengeance is used for plus she is a fking marksman. Vengeance is mostly used on tanks or fighters
One thing that I don't understand is why does everyone buys Scarlet Phantom first? If you buy Windtalker you'll get 40 atk speed, 20 movement speed and 10 crit damage plus magic damage.
Friendly reminder here if anybody ever decides to think that an attack speed build on granger is better then you have to reconsider as an attack speed build on hin only benefits him from having his 6th bullet or crit bullet occur more quickly whereas building him with damaging items benefits all his bullets aswell as his crit bullets and his skills
Here's a suggestion. Why not use Golden Staff & Demon Hunter sword combo. Maybe this will trigger his 6th bullet a lot faster. Of course it also means that you can't use crit items and has to deal with the built-in one
Having question hoping to get an answer 🙁 -> Does baxia's passive on 30% hp regen and shield absorption stacks with life drain items or dominance ice? And if yes, how? 50%+30%? Or 30% of the remaining 50%?
I don't prefer making attack builds on Granger but if it's necessary to add some attack builds on him then I'll add Demon hunter and windnature also my opinion of Granger attack speed is lack of physical damage to his basic attack and his skills , the old Granger build is better than Attack speed item.
*It could work I guess if you can't aim shit with your skill , but rather than that , I can't see any benefits from this build . Welp , at least now wind of nature (because a lot people uses it for Granger) will benefit more now at least .*
I think atk spd granger will work if his 2nd skill have some kind of new features. 1st skill is good with dmg build; so maybe make his 2nd skill good with atk spd. 😅
It's already good But 2nd skill based on attack speed? I don't see the need to add that in, wouldn't make sense in retrospect since it's a dash skill that increases dmg on basic attacks.
@@leonmystique9372 im just saying they should add some features in the 2nd skill. Or maybe on the 1st skill like atk spd convert into dmg or mov spd. Stuff like that. But hey im just saying this to make granger having a flexible build. His already with dmg.
Granger is actually a spell casting mm...when ur main damage source is skill...we need physical damage,CDR and penetration most...so even if granger has atk speed 100%basic like other mm...its still best to not build atk speed items,im sure many of u came across when u experienced the moment u use granger but cant best enemy mm just because ur spell caster and u missed and the enemy mm is basic attacker and he bested u fast and easy...or the feelings where u cant clear lanes faster or push turrets fast or defend the lord big minions becuz ur mm is spell caster....40%of the time mm with spell base is useful and damaging in early but 60% of the time when in mid to late ur mm granger is not just enough at all....get what i mean?Good!
I build Brody with semi tank build, and only two items for critical damage and survivability. And still can make a good play. On granger... he need movement speed and attack power. There a lot situations where you will definitely kill someone with attack power, but can't lay another shot, like with Lesley.
Mmmm his Attack Speed did increase, but that that would make him into a late game marksmen, and we all know these mm feed beyond daylight because ATK Speed Items are expensive and offer very little damage increases. I think Granger is better off built with BoD, Endless Battle, one defensive item, the rest attack items that adapt to the situation
Hey elgin there is a bug on Granger's attacks speed, if you try in custom practice mode and you use the inspire battle spell and equip all the attack speed item the bullet bar will disappear and he will not deal critical last bullet Hope you see this :
I wouldnt suggest pure attack speed But- it is viable to build one atk speed item like windtalker after a power item or two: It can help in giving granger better dps after completing his combo, which is better in longer teamfights or against tankier comps
Damage build is still what we need, and I think it didn't make a huge difference. You can spam his first skill because the cooldown is fast then add damage build instead of attack speed you will just loose damage and it will probably take you years before you kill tanky heroes
Let me give you a tip to how to escape aldous's ult, The best thing to do when aldous used his ult to ypu is to go to the cyclone eye and wait for the time when aldous gets near you or when u have flicker you can use that to escape aldous ult at the right moment
The best build for him would probably be hunter strike, endless battle, bruteforce, malaefic roar, blade of despair and the key here is golden staff. I already try it, it is super op. It is even better than the crit atk sped build.
@@leonmystique9372 Considering that u will have high physical atk from BOD hunter malaefic and endless battle, your physical atk will hurt and the red bullet can still crit ll the time- basic skill 1 and ult red bullet all crit even with golden staff..and it is better than crit atk sped build because this way skill 1 and ult hurt more and basic atk too
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_”Fast or slow, you can’t escape me!”_
*_- Natalia probably_*
and aamon
@@alzyourdailyhitman8674 And chou
lol
@@alzyourdailyhitman8674 and Karina
Zilong with ult: What is Slow?
Minions walking over Elgin in 1:39 be like
"Eh, just another day in the land of dawn"
Lmao best comment
Best comment ever
Well everything in the Land Of Dawn can respawn (only in the game)
Example: never ending feeding Alucard recycle
I BROKE YOUR 69 COMMENT
@@cheemsper173 and you're broke
Granger before: **Slow like a sloth**
Granger now: _Let's make this quick_
ok
@HOWARD POGI ?
@HOWARD POGI what's the connect of your reply on my comment ?????
@HOWARD POGI you're*
quickie
I love how Elgin was just pushing while there was a chaos teamfight next to him LOL.
Moontoon buffed Natalia check the video on my channel
But that's what u rlly are supposed to do ._. push while there's a team fight so u can have turret advantage or even take out all of the towers while the enemies are distracted u need to use the chance to push for turret gold and advantage
That's what everyone should do
yeah why not.. focus on objective is better than joining clash, mm heroes really squishy early game
He made the right choice
I will comeback to see more professor comments on it.
😂😂
Lol 😂😂😂
This is dumb but..
Golden Staff Granger with tank item as a jungler is kinda..
*T R O L L*
@@a.karisna5025 golden staff + berseker = more attackspeed
*Promo Diamond Tricks Check my Channel*
I don't think its that effective, damage build is more useful, even though you're getting attack speed to activate your passive frequently, his first skill will have lower damage and will make it less spammable, this build makes granger reliant on basic attack.
As expected for Dio Brando
Dio sama coming in with the clutch 🙌
its true though, this build reliant on basic attacks
while damage build is reliant on skills
And you hardly see anyone attack Granger 24/7
The build is only an option for lazy people who doesn't or can't aim xD
Moontoon buffed Natalia check the video on my channel
At this point even khufra physical would be effective if moonton buffed it
it used to work in 2019, when Khufra didn't get too many nerfs on damage and survivability AND RANGE.
Actually yeah it would be effective if khufra dealt physical damage
Maybe with war axe he would be deadly.
@@shrmp5055 you do know that ml made kufra tank support you will only get 33% of the war axe effect because of kufra being support
@@Crizzlep is Khufra a Tank/Support or a Support/Tank? I think if Khufra is a Tank/Support he'll still benefit from War Axe's full potential.
@@Crizzlep that’s not how it works, it only uses the main role, in khufras case he is a tank/support. So he has full benefit of war axe as his main role is tank.
2:32 Franco to Elgin:-"No Elgin Now I Really Don't Love The Smell Of The Gunpowder In The Morning"😆😂
The best build for granger is the BURST items because when it comes to atk speed he can only get 40% also he cannot poke the enemies easily so the best build that fits to him is burst items.
True
It's buffed tho
New adjustment : *Attack speed Granger*
People who used to build him with attack speed always : *I had already predicted the future*
It's more like...
*IM FOUR PARALLEL UNIVERSES AHEAD OF YOU*
So.. Windtalker or the purple sword?
I like this 🤣🤣
Thats me lol
@@creambeast8178 back when critical granger is still a thing I used purple sword and berserker fury haha
Imagine if MOONTON Decreased the CD of his FirstSkill and it has an additional movement speed when it use his second skill base on his attcakspeed
Imagine
But the movement speed based on attack speed wouldn't make any sense in retrospect
@@leonmystique9372 true tho
Imagine your imaginary is just an imagintion
"Does attack speed Granger build?"
*"Yesn't"*
I had seizures reading this
@@justapotato584 same
The only point of building Granger with attack speed items is to use his last bullet more often, building him with just a few will definitely not be as useful, so when using him with attack speed items, build him with full attack speed items.
Demon hunter sword might work with him, I'm not sure about wind talked and scarlet phantom.
@@johnlawrencebello93 Why not?
@@johnlawrencebello93 demon hunter sword and wind chant work scarlet phantom not much
@@robertocastillo8281 that's what i said dumbass
the eyes of a Granger main was torn out while watching this
Franco: I love the smell of gun powder in the mor-
Elgin: *proceds to shot franco*
No even Moonton buff the Attack Speed Ratio,Granger is still a bullet type Hero just like Beatix is not help a lot.
I'm just loving this soundtrack and gameplay as always :)
Another buff for moonton's favourite son and.....
Chou is the real Favourite son of moonton. He has 11 skins if you include his painted ones.
And Faramis is the adopted son whom they found in the dustbin😂
@@nagaweeb6888 more like the bastard💀
@@juliannabigfootpena4284 hahaha😂😂
@@juliannabigfootpena4284 we need justice for Faramid
@@juliannabigfootpena4284 Faramis
For me, I'll only use Corrosion Scythe to him so I can maximize the passive of it slowing enemies every basic attacks.
this didn’t even come to mind but that could be a good trade off item i just don’t know what i’d get rid of to the basic damage build
It's passive works only on melee heroes
@@uchihamadara4253 still work on fo range heroes but cut half the benefit
@@hanisrosli5484 read it's passive bro it works only on melee attacks
@@uchihamadara4253 it still works even if it just half of the passive. Wanwan benefits a lot with corrosion scythe.
I thought it was his Passive that makes him unable to get Attack Speed! Lollll
Loving the new edits Elgin!
"Poor Franco facing 6 enemies" (and that includes the clones of sun)
*-Elgin 2021*
the problem with the current granger update was movespeed items doesnt work anymore. granger doesnt necessarily need to much attackspeed. he needs more movement speed
He has already second skill with low CD. He doesnt need movement speed. If other one gets buff then the other should get nerfed, buff movement speed then nerf damage
I love Elgin biggest fan here!! ❤️❤️ New subscriber too!! 😆
Before that changes on Granger.. Players on lowrank Actually did that Attack speed Granger 😂
Equipping attack speed as Granger's item is just like equipping him with Demon boots.
Totally futile and pointless if damage is considered
Fun fact:
Every single motherfucking cell in this goddamn universe knows that
Finally montoon listens to granger saying "let's make this quick"
yeah looks looks like granger will still remain as the only caster mm in ml
which at this point become unique to him
glad they aren't trying to make him like other mm
Are you forget brody? Brody also build semitank, sometimes even buy Bloodlust
Hanabi is the only Marksman that doesn't need Lifesteal Items
Beatrix is the only Marksman that doesn't need Critical Items
Kimmy is the only Marksman that uses Magic items.
@@walkinganimepedia are you sure bro what about nathan is he not able to item magic items?
@@denneneria2827 nope, Natan converts his Physical Damage, Penetration, and Lifesteal to Magic Ones he doesn't need Magic Items
@@walkinganimepedia Natan is perfect with Concentrated Energy... And it seem he prefer NoD rather than SeaH..
But yeah... nathan isnt good with other Magic Item
ATTACK SPEED GRANGER - DOES IT WORK?
proceed to a montage where aspd does not even matter
Franco loves gunpowder right? So cool!! And in 5:36 the beat on time!!
Elgin:Hang on sun I'll help you
Elgin again:What just happened 😳
“Franco loves gunpowder right” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love this dude commentary
Even if he doesn't have attack speed
He can still eat enemies alive
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Elgin feeling extra spicy today. Very passive aggressive. Nice
5:07 Eligin: That was fast, I don't even have time to run
Face the pain we Granger mains deal with on a daily basis :)
"I'm fast, lightning and speed"
-Johnson
When youtubers use dumb item builds : god mode,activate
When i use dumb item builds : dirt mode,activate
There is a change in Elgin's editing, and I notice it again here. That's good! Keep on improving and soar higher!
That Lesley is the most advanced player I've ever seen...
My god vengeance with Lesley,, wow🙏
Stfu nob she can use vengeance it is the new meta it works well with all her skills. 1st skill give movement and camo 2nd skill pushes away enemy and ult allows you to fire from safe distance.
Joking all her skills are opposite to what vengeance is used for plus she is a fking marksman.
Vengeance is mostly used on tanks or fighters
The music tho it very good
Check 5:48 Elgin sound like he is rapping to the music
I think it still the same or the attack speed increase just a bit, btw I like your editing sounds here!
Why Lesley even use vengeance for her battle spell
pro
As Granger would say: Let's make this quick
My idol Elgin how are you
im good
@@jettchan2934 lol
@@jettchan2934 xD
3:04 I see what you did there MASTER! 😂😂😂
Vengeance lesly: my goal is beyond ur understanding.
Atleast Wind of Nature or Dhs can be somewhat useful now instead of unnecessary because you can't get atk speed bonus.
If Granger Had Attack Speed He Would Be The Most Feared Marksman Ever-
its time for that forbidden golden staff build to shine...
Everyone talking about Granger's atk SPD
Meanwhile Me:Why did that Lesley use vengeance?
AHAHHAHAHAHA we have the same thought XDD
when i saw that lesley using vengeance :Epic🗿 or
Chocolate Chicken🗿
@@joaquininigocruz2288 lmao😂
@@Oryooz330 nah I think its new meta😂
@@nagaweeb6888 Warriors meta👍🗿
Alternative title: elgid using granger but everytime he gets a kill and assist bg music intensifies
Hororo: Post new Content
Elgin: Our Content
1:56 when the doom music kicks in
Elgin: i use attack speed items on granger.
Me: welp, lets try shall we?
One thing that I don't understand is why does everyone buys Scarlet Phantom first? If you buy Windtalker you'll get 40 atk speed, 20 movement speed and 10 crit damage plus magic damage.
cause windtalker doesn't have any physical attack. what's the point of having high attack speed if your basic attacks don't have any damage.
@@MarcDoesNotKnow ouh... thanks for telling me
"But seriously, who will build granger atk speed?" by elgin sum video ago
elgin rn : Let's play granger atk speed.
Friendly reminder here if anybody ever decides to think that an attack speed build on granger is better then you have to reconsider as an attack speed build on hin only benefits him from having his 6th bullet or crit bullet occur more quickly whereas building him with damaging items benefits all his bullets aswell as his crit bullets and his skills
Here's a suggestion. Why not use Golden Staff & Demon Hunter sword combo. Maybe this will trigger his 6th bullet a lot faster. Of course it also means that you can't use crit items and has to deal with the built-in one
Golden staff won't work. It doesn't work on the bullets
I think Raw Damage build is still better for him. But yeah maybe I should try Corrosion Scythe on him.
Things you should never ask:
1.Man's salary
2.Woman's age
3.Why lesley uses vengeance instead of flicker or aegis(5:16)
Nice edit, good job
"Too bad i got immobilized by franco"
The skill being a supress cc: 👁️👄👁️
3:32 why I don't know but i laugh a lot thnx Elgin for that pat😇😂😂
I think maybe cd boots ,wintalker,corosion scythe and berserker core items can work on sidelane
Hahahahaha *why are we all in the same Lane* funniest thing I seen from Elgin
Having question hoping to get an answer 🙁 ->
Does baxia's passive on 30% hp regen and shield absorption stacks with life drain items or dominance ice? And if yes, how? 50%+30%? Or 30% of the remaining 50%?
I don't prefer making attack builds on Granger but if it's necessary to add some attack builds on him then I'll add Demon hunter and windnature also my opinion of Granger attack speed is lack of physical damage to his basic attack and his skills , the old Granger build is better than Attack speed item.
Ps Elgin's Edit is improving and it's making the viewers happy and at the same time Learning
Attack speed Granger is now real.
He can hurt you.
Elgin, can you try Tank Sun Jungle? I've met an enemy who was completely destroying us with it.
'''Elgin for better damage you can reserve the red bullet and use the first skill '''
And thats my way in playing granger
So are we all ignoring the fact that Elgin used Inspire during this game?
Lesley with vengeance op
I would play MM's granger if the devs finally decided to give the same projectile mechanic his 1st skill with layla(Effected by crit chance)
I can already feel choox trying this.
*It could work I guess if you can't aim shit with your skill , but rather than that , I can't see any benefits from this build . Welp , at least now wind of nature (because a lot people uses it for Granger) will benefit more now at least .*
I think atk spd granger will work if his 2nd skill have some kind of new features. 1st skill is good with dmg build; so maybe make his 2nd skill good with atk spd. 😅
It's already good
But 2nd skill based on attack speed? I don't see the need to add that in, wouldn't make sense in retrospect since it's a dash skill that increases dmg on basic attacks.
@@leonmystique9372 im just saying they should add some features in the 2nd skill. Or maybe on the 1st skill like atk spd convert into dmg or mov spd. Stuff like that. But hey im just saying this to make granger having a flexible build. His already with dmg.
Attack speed granger is useful now
Granger is actually a spell casting mm...when ur main damage source is skill...we need physical damage,CDR and penetration most...so even if granger has atk speed 100%basic like other mm...its still best to not build atk speed items,im sure many of u came across when u experienced the moment u use granger but cant best enemy mm just because ur spell caster and u missed and the enemy mm is basic attacker and he bested u fast and easy...or the feelings where u cant clear lanes faster or push turrets fast or defend the lord big minions becuz ur mm is spell caster....40%of the time mm with spell base is useful and damaging in early but 60% of the time when in mid to late ur mm granger is not just enough at all....get what i mean?Good!
I build Brody with semi tank build, and only two items for critical damage and survivability. And still can make a good play. On granger... he need movement speed and attack power. There a lot situations where you will definitely kill someone with attack power, but can't lay another shot, like with Lesley.
Mmmm his Attack Speed did increase, but that that would make him into a late game marksmen, and we all know these mm feed beyond daylight because ATK Speed Items are expensive and offer very little damage increases. I think Granger is better off built with BoD, Endless Battle, one defensive item, the rest attack items that adapt to the situation
Sea halberd would be the most recommended item because of its
+atk dmg
+atk spd
+Phy pen
And %50 lifesteal reduction to enemies
Sea halberd doesn't have physical pen.
Hey elgin there is a bug on Granger's attacks speed, if you try in custom practice mode and you use the inspire battle spell and equip all the attack speed item the bullet bar will disappear and he will not deal critical last bullet
Hope you see this :
Hello I'm kagura and hayabusa user, but I'm starting to like granger too and yes I'm gonna try this build
Elgin's team just going on aggressive mode
Why are we all in the same lane ?
I would have done the same to be on screen in TH-cam with Elgin 😍😍
Unless you remove the hunter strike in Granger's build,it cannot make more damage
I wouldnt suggest pure attack speed
But- it is viable to build one atk speed item like windtalker after a power item or two:
It can help in giving granger better dps after completing his combo, which is better in longer teamfights or against tankier comps
No fast no slow just perfect
The item blood lust axe helps granger because when he spams his 1st skill he gets healed depending on his damage
It's not efficient to build Bloodlust Axe, endless battle is better
*LEARNING LANCELOT & SELENA ARE SO FUN!*
_Kinda hope I'm using them right_ ✨
5:31
So no one ganna tawk how good this sinc is!??
Damage build is still what we need, and I think it didn't make a huge difference. You can spam his first skill because the cooldown is fast then add damage build instead of attack speed
you will just loose damage and it will probably take you years before you kill tanky heroes
Dhs and corrosion scythe then tank build for granger is OP bruh
Soon my hayabutaw will recognize too
My masters
💪💪🔥🔥
5:27 love this bgm
i like the side music while talking good
6:10 he loves it
Let me give you a tip to how to escape aldous's ult, The best thing to do when aldous used his ult to ypu is to go to the cyclone eye and wait for the time when aldous gets near you or when u have flicker you can use that to escape aldous ult at the right moment
Lesley vengance.....
Lesley dies:.......
Me: owh look is that legendary flag
Hi @elgin how do you make the items appears on the left side? (Below mini map)
The best build for him would probably be hunter strike, endless battle, bruteforce, malaefic roar, blade of despair and the key here is golden staff. I already try it, it is super op. It is even better than the crit atk sped build.
How is golden staff op considering I tested it before and it doesn't do much on Granger's DPS?
@@leonmystique9372 Considering that u will have high physical atk from BOD hunter malaefic and endless battle, your physical atk will hurt and the red bullet can still crit ll the time- basic skill 1 and ult red bullet all crit even with golden staff..and it is better than crit atk sped build because this way skill 1 and ult hurt more and basic atk too