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@@mydarlingfreak796 It doesn’t. This guy who commented is just mad. The “joke” was at autistic people because we are developmentally disabled. The neurotype isn’t disabling in the same way as someone with an intellectual disability but the two are conflated. It’s shitty either way.
Hey Pony, I did the Pikachu tattoo here. Some valid points to take in. I appreciate you including me in the video! I am just over 3 years in, and no formal apprenticeship. I drew him based on the Pokemon Yellow cover Pikachu, who is very fat. Love watching these vids, thanks again
The only thing that really threw me off of it is that you made shadows for the electricity that should be a light source instead, and the positioning thats a little claustrophobic with the zelda tattoo, but it looked really cool 😊
Hey Pony, I think it's better and more fun when you use animations on top of the tattoos like in 14:50, the rest of the video was a bit flat and hard to follow exactly what you guys were talking about
You say ‘him or her’ for the pikachu tattoo but it has to be a him as female pikachus have a heart shaped tail whilst this one was flat… I look forward to my ‘nobody cares’ response 👍
What do you mean by too large? I'm going for a fullbody tattoo with the same style. My first sleeve is starting next month. The armpits GONNA BE HELLLLL. But i know what you're talking about ;) I say the same about hip waist ratio
You're a fantastic tattoo artist, all my tattoos are from the late 80' to early 90's, so imagine. I hung out at my friends Tattoo Shop (Tony D'annessa) for 35 years, only shop in Montreal at one time, had some good times there.
When the incoming light is at least 2 times (in this case I'd say >10 times) as bright as the lightning bolt. The only two things I could think of that creates such illuminance would be the core of a nuclear detonation or a regular bathroom lamp at night when you have to pee.
23:26 looks exactly like a sharpei dog. I wonder if the less common breed threw off the judgement here? Scooby was a Great Dane- less wrinkles & less velvety coat texture
Why would lightning, which is a light source... have shadow?? Wouldn't you BRIGHTEN the areas around the lightning? o.o that pika tat was all kinds of wrong
the pikachu is kinda like the f'd up cheetah tattoo on ink master. The pattern and colors make you recognise it as such, eventhoug it doesnt look like it.
I am but a mere apprentice and I’ll be blessed if I ever reach the skill level of there least favorite tattoos however I think they’re doing great on the critique buuuut the grading at the end is a little harsh I gotta say man that dog portrait is better than anything Jon has ever done honestly everyone can improve but give respect when due before anything
Hey @ponylawson I haven’t gotten any tattoos yet, I’m trying to design one that I want to get. Just wanted to ask, do you know any great shoutouts for the UK, I’m in Scotland? Also, how about a video that shows looks back at some of your own works and show some of your early mistakes and some of your incredible stuff now? As an artist I always find looking at other artists progression really helpful. Cheers, and keep up the great work!
Castle has a lot of fundamental drawing issues. Perspective, line weight, chiaroscuro. Good lay out on the head but they need to just draw some cylinders and learn some fundamentals.
Can’t seem to find the no call no show channel. Is it still a thing? Did they change the name? I don’t see it when I search and it’s not in the channels section on Pony’s channel.
On the Shark Sushi 🍣 tattoo The top chopstick is not straight or lines up, the bottom point is at a different angle than the top side of it(chopstick that goes behind shark) The front chopstick(that is fully visible and in front of the shark) is curved and not a straight line! But with that said it does look good. I would've added more darker shading on fins and some darker shading in body for extra contrast to make it pop. In time this tattoo will fade out a bit and adding darker black in shading limits the fade for longer allowing it to look more natural as color fades in 5-7 years.
On the Sushi tattoo, you can tell that the artist has not looked at a photo of a Hammerhead Shark, or any other kind of Shark for that matter. The tail is completely wrong. And the top of the 3rd section...I'm surprised you didn't mention it.
I have a question. At around 3:21 Pony said the artist should have used maybe some" something " to help get the redness out of there. anyone know what product he was speaking of to get the redness out after using white? thanks in advance.
The featured artist in this video has a note in her bio that says "books closed." Does that mean you cannot schedule an appointment with an artist at any point in the future? I wasn't sure if I understood that correctly.
I want to have a full sleeve on my arm from a really good artist but it will cost about 12.000 euro for 6 sessions. I know that it's art and stays forever and I adore his work! But is this a normal price for an artist with 170.000 followers on instagram Or should I look for another one? The style is mix graphic
I'd say it all depends on the artist. 12k seems a bit high for an arm sleeve, in my opinion though. Then again, I've heard of em costing more than that.
the castle: you don't think maybe the light comes from the opposite side? as if the black is on the complete opposite side of the light and that the white is eclipse ponte? (where the light expands out from the castle and further behind?
On the shadows for the castle towers tattoo.. speaking purely as a traditional media artist (I am not a tattoo artist) The white highlight right next to the darkest part of the cast shadow is definitely not the best decision. You do need light next to the shadow to create the contrast, but using white was too much. I think that's also why the black right next to it, looks mildly off-putting. Using white makes the contrast too stark. Especially because the clouds would (from a more realism point of view) be the brightest thing in this artwork - unless they're supposed to be rain/storm clouds, but that's a different issue entirely. The only way you would see that white a highlight would be if the object is made of reflective metal. Putting white on *all* the towers also ruins the effect a bit. If it had been on just one, it would have been a great way to make that tower the focal point - and it would work really well with the suggestion of having the highlight only on the top or bottom of the towers. It would really define the lightsource. It does speak of nice attention to detail though, that the artist didn't "just" do an unbroken white line.. that would have been the easy way out, but they tried capturing the stone blocks ... Not that I expect anyone to care several months after the fact 😅
the perspective in the shark/sushi and the castle tattoo is totally messed up, I honestly don't get how you could'nt see it ._. there is no logic progression of the curving in the lines (being the cuts or different rows of stone ESPECIALLY the ledges)
You could isolate John’s castle advice into a clip. I think you could get a lot of useful tattooing tips from collabing with more people with different specialties! These critiques are truly informative and you’re making history.
Seriously…….sample pieces of this convo…to overlay on some deep synth drone…. And we have a new music genre… Move over Musique Concrete… Hello Musique Critique…..
With Pikachu, just gonna throw out that lightning is an intense sources of light. If you're seeing "lightning" and it's got a shadow cast behind it from something even brighter than lightning, it isn't lightning you're seeing, it's...
13:52 it's core shadow, not cast shadow 27:42 highlight isn't the closest point to the sun Jon, you're trying so hard to criticize, but you're really missing the point.
Now that I watch these videos, and inkmaster, I don’t even need to be a tattoo artist to throw shade at shitty tattoos, you guys are literally developing gnarly critics
I was watching the unemployable podcast one day and then the guests and Jon agreed that cyber sigilism looked like 'tribal with autism'. Now, I'm not planning on getting any cyber sigilism, but autism as an insult? No.
Curious how many people have ever said to you that the lines look off on your tattoos, outside of other pro artists? Just wondering if that actually happens in everyday life?
The "Love on the Spectrum" joke wasn't cool. I don't like the show, not defending it, I think it's exploitative, but comparing acquired disability via traumatic brain injury to being born with a different neurotype is very ableist and demeaning. (Guest commenting on Deadpool tattoo)
The casual ableism of using Love on the spectrum as an insult was really disappointing and unnecessarily mean (It's a show about autistic people for those unaware)
That comment was so off putting and just really repulsive, I had to stop watching the video and honestly probably never going to watch anymore content from either of them.
Thank you. The ablest insult the “r word” or “short bus” is replaced with a show about autistics. I’m autistic and tattooed. I’ve always liked watching Pony’s videos but that comment was very unfunny and punching down at the wrong people. Just say the tattoo looks warped and shitty. 🤦
I’ve never been a huge fan of back shading around a subject. You see that a lot with realism and you’re usually taught to use background in fine art but in tattoos unless the background can be used to tie in with more work it always looks awkward to me.
The dog portrait could have been allot more forced perspective. Tight details in the nose and gently blurring back to the rest of the face. Other than that, pretty solid tattoo
No idea why you nitpicked the shit out of that Pikachu, it's literally fine. There are some not optimal choices with the design but the technique looks solid
Yes Pikachu should have some solid black in the tail, but it's not present there, so pick apart the line weight there all day! No, that Pikachu definitely isn't an "or her." Female Pikachu have a heart-shaped tail tip.
It looks like he’s just missing an arm. It’s good, just not executed correctly. The green shit, and the rotisserie chicken or turkey bottom. The water coming out. I mean I guess not all Pokemon are the same.
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I didn't understand the joke about deadpool looking like he might belong on Love on the Spectrum. Can't you please explain the joke ???
@@mydarlingfreak796it means he has a big head
But how does that relate to Autistic people??
@@mydarlingfreak796 It doesn’t. This guy who commented is just mad. The “joke” was at autistic people because we are developmentally disabled. The neurotype isn’t disabling in the same way as someone with an intellectual disability but the two are conflated. It’s shitty either way.
That was my point. It's not funny. And for it to make it through the editing process is disappointing. Another couple artist I'm not supporting Xx
Hey Pony, I did the Pikachu tattoo here. Some valid points to take in. I appreciate you including me in the video! I am just over 3 years in, and no formal apprenticeship. I drew him based on the Pokemon Yellow cover Pikachu, who is very fat. Love watching these vids, thanks again
I actually noticed it looked like the yellow version. I honestly really loved it
Can we rename it "pikachub" 😂
Was it a Rick and Morty background? Was that what you were goin for?
The only thing that really threw me off of it is that you made shadows for the electricity that should be a light source instead, and the positioning thats a little claustrophobic with the zelda tattoo, but it looked really cool 😊
I like your Pikachu
Pikachu is (probably) chonky because the original Pikachu design was a fat boi
90s Pikachu was a chunky boy!
Love how in depth you guys went in on these pieces. It’s so helpful to us 🖤
These work a lot better when you have the ipad and show the changes. Hopefully you stick to that way of doing it on future videos.
Hearing Jon talk about that castle was so sick, I want a castle tattoo now
Y’all should do an illustration book on dynamics and shading and stuff like that .almost like a how to illustrative booklet
The dog was nice.
lol they removed your other comment
@@valentindellagiacoma7875omg I need to know what the other comment was
@@Jade_Owlsomething along the lines “pony and crooked lines Mahoney”
Hey Pony, I think it's better and more fun when you use animations on top of the tattoos like in 14:50, the rest of the video was a bit flat and hard to follow exactly what you guys were talking about
Love you both! Sick collab, from my two favorite channels to watch💕
You say ‘him or her’ for the pikachu tattoo but it has to be a him as female pikachus have a heart shaped tail whilst this one was flat… I look forward to my ‘nobody cares’ response 👍
I care and you’re right. Sticking to the lore. 🫡
@@ireallylovecilantro 🫶
I didn't know there was a difference...then again I know nothing of Pokémon
I made a comment saying the same thing 😂
Well I learned something today
You both are my inspirations. I try to take all your critics and apply them to my own work.
gross
Yes new Pony Lawson vid!
You can really tell how knowledgeable Jon is when it comes to the finer details of being an artist and he's great at giving constructive criticism.
Pony when you discuss tattoos by yourself you go so fast!! When you have another person with you, you GO SO SLOW!!!
Agreed. Love that we heard both opinions but wish we saw twice as many tattoos
@sethburton7854 thank you for your reply.
Totally agree! At least his normal ones show more tattoos - this was only half the amount!
@@samanthafairweather9186 EXACTLY!! Thanks for your reply 👍
It’s twice as many opinions- half as many tattoos….
Size does matter, but only if it's too large or too small. 😂❤
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What do you mean by too large? I'm going for a fullbody tattoo with the same style. My first sleeve is starting next month. The armpits GONNA BE HELLLLL.
But i know what you're talking about ;) I say the same about hip waist ratio
It's gotta be proportional to the placement, fit in the area you want it.
So many women have lied to me...😞😥😢
#dadbodsandsmallrods
@r.b.rozier9692 Sorry man. 😞
Maybe they lie because you're a good person and they don't want to hurt your feelings?
You're a fantastic tattoo artist, all my tattoos are from the late 80' to early 90's, so imagine. I hung out at my friends Tattoo Shop (Tony D'annessa) for 35 years, only shop in Montreal at one time, had some good times there.
had to use playback speed
I’m no scientist but how does lightening make a shadow? That’s 100% special sauce on that pikachu
I don't think Pikachus are real either
When the incoming light is at least 2 times (in this case I'd say >10 times) as bright as the lightning bolt. The only two things I could think of that creates such illuminance would be the core of a nuclear detonation or a regular bathroom lamp at night when you have to pee.
Love Jon. You guys are hilarious and very interesting to listen to.
People neeed to watch these videos before they start tattooing so they get the design right before it’s on someone’s body forever 😭
More Of these with Jon plz
Man, these guys are tough on these tattoos.
23:26 looks exactly like a sharpei dog. I wonder if the less common breed threw off the judgement here? Scooby was a Great Dane- less wrinkles & less velvety coat texture
Love your videos, I would kill to see an episode on traditional Japanese tattoos! 🙏
Jon Nelson is one of the most pleasant people to listen to
Why would lightning, which is a light source... have shadow?? Wouldn't you BRIGHTEN the areas around the lightning? o.o that pika tat was all kinds of wrong
the pikachu is kinda like the f'd up cheetah tattoo on ink master. The pattern and colors make you recognise it as such, eventhoug it doesnt look like it.
I am but a mere apprentice and I’ll be blessed if I ever reach the skill level of there least favorite tattoos however
I think they’re doing great on the critique buuuut the grading at the end is a little harsh I gotta say man that dog portrait is better than anything Jon has ever done honestly everyone can improve but give respect when due before anything
I’d like to see them critique eachothers tattoos and see what they grade
Won’t be anymore collaborating if anyone says 6 lol
Hey @ponylawson I haven’t gotten any tattoos yet, I’m trying to design one that I want to get. Just wanted to ask, do you know any great shoutouts for the UK, I’m in Scotland? Also, how about a video that shows looks back at some of your own works and show some of your early mistakes and some of your incredible stuff now? As an artist I always find looking at other artists progression really helpful. Cheers, and keep up the great work!
Castle has a lot of fundamental drawing issues. Perspective, line weight, chiaroscuro. Good lay out on the head but they need to just draw some cylinders and learn some fundamentals.
Deadpool Head should have been 10% smaller instead of cutting off access stencil paper
Can’t seem to find the no call no show channel. Is it still a thing? Did they change the name? I don’t see it when I search and it’s not in the channels section on Pony’s channel.
I love Jon, he's a phenomenal artist. Would love to see more of the both of you ❤
On the Shark Sushi 🍣 tattoo
The top chopstick is not straight or lines up, the bottom point is at a different angle than the top side of it(chopstick that goes behind shark)
The front chopstick(that is fully visible and in front of the shark) is curved and not a straight line!
But with that said it does look good. I would've added more darker shading on fins and some darker shading in body for extra contrast to make it pop.
In time this tattoo will fade out a bit and adding darker black in shading limits the fade for longer allowing it to look more natural as color fades in 5-7 years.
I dunno, they don't really look like chopsticks to me...
On the Sushi tattoo, you can tell that the artist has not looked at a photo of a Hammerhead Shark, or any other kind of Shark for that matter. The tail is completely wrong. And the top of the 3rd section...I'm surprised you didn't mention it.
I have a question. At around 3:21 Pony said the artist should have used maybe some" something " to help get the redness out of there. anyone know what product he was speaking of to get the redness out after using white? thanks in advance.
That Pikachu does not know Quick Attack
It learned Heart Attack instead
Pikachu used “EARTHQUAKE”
It’s super effective!
I LOVE that you guys keep collaborating! 2 of my favorites in the industry
Yep definitely
The featured artist in this video has a note in her bio that says "books closed." Does that mean you cannot schedule an appointment with an artist at any point in the future? I wasn't sure if I understood that correctly.
I want to have a full sleeve on my arm from a really good artist but it will cost about 12.000 euro for 6 sessions. I know that it's art and stays forever and I adore his work! But is this a normal price for an artist with 170.000 followers on instagram
Or should I look for another one? The style is mix graphic
I'd say it all depends on the artist. 12k seems a bit high for an arm sleeve, in my opinion though. Then again, I've heard of em costing more than that.
Way too much.
Wow just looked at Jon’s castles on his instagram, that really is masterful work.
30:20 is the funniest thing I've ever heard! 😂
Sir how can i send my work to you for critiques?
the castle: you don't think maybe the light comes from the opposite side? as if the black is on the complete opposite side of the light and that the white is eclipse ponte? (where the light expands out from the castle and further behind?
was the green from the green goblin cover up
How can electric be casting a shadow considering it is a light source?
Deadpool looks like he is sneezing out a gallon of electric blue snot. What a strange choice.
Seven minute pikachu critique is gnar gnar. 😂 ❤it
Greatest collab for this style of video ever.
I went to The No Call No Show. you never showed i’m extremely disappointed
The matching ears suddenly hit me haha. If pony would wear a black cap these guys could be twins!
On the shadows for the castle towers tattoo.. speaking purely as a traditional media artist (I am not a tattoo artist)
The white highlight right next to the darkest part of the cast shadow is definitely not the best decision.
You do need light next to the shadow to create the contrast, but using white was too much.
I think that's also why the black right next to it, looks mildly off-putting. Using white makes the contrast too stark. Especially because the clouds would (from a more realism point of view) be the brightest thing in this artwork - unless they're supposed to be rain/storm clouds, but that's a different issue entirely.
The only way you would see that white a highlight would be if the object is made of reflective metal.
Putting white on *all* the towers also ruins the effect a bit. If it had been on just one, it would have been a great way to make that tower the focal point - and it would work really well with the suggestion of having the highlight only on the top or bottom of the towers. It would really define the lightsource.
It does speak of nice attention to detail though, that the artist didn't "just" do an unbroken white line.. that would have been the easy way out, but they tried capturing the stone blocks
... Not that I expect anyone to care several months after the fact 😅
That dog was very well made.
Can you do a video like this but critique your own past work?
I have one up- it’s from a year or two ago, but it’s there!
the perspective in the shark/sushi and the castle tattoo is totally messed up, I honestly don't get how you could'nt see it ._. there is no logic progression of the curving in the lines (being the cuts or different rows of stone ESPECIALLY the ledges)
I love the dog...they did Deadpool dirty. Wtf
Looked like he was snorting a blue ribbon! More like "Dud-pool"!
Great to see some father and son bonding. Love the video!
The dog was nice the eye on the right was lost in the darkness.
You could isolate John’s castle advice into a clip. I think you could get a lot of useful tattooing tips from collabing with more people with different specialties! These critiques are truly informative and you’re making history.
What would make a blue tattoo bleed purple
This is a great guest. I love Jon Nelsons shorts. Great humor.
13:54 instead of cast shadow, did jon mean core shadow? probably but it had me ???? for a second
I don’t think electricity casts shadows. If anything, those should have been highlight, since electricity is a light source
Can’t lie I just keep getting bigger and bigger pieces. It’s all to work up the courage to do a back piece.
Jonn's death stare is funny AF
Seriously…….sample pieces of this convo…to overlay on some deep synth drone….
And we have a new music genre…
Move over Musique Concrete…
Hello Musique Critique…..
Whooaa, this wasn't on my bingo card!
Why would a lightning create a shadow? Lol
Bro would be a great comedian to a bunch of middle schoolers 29:53
31:39
Did you record this after you just woke up? LoL your energy level is a -10 here.
Not me thinking the ear was part of the tatoo lol
With Pikachu, just gonna throw out that lightning is an intense sources of light. If you're seeing "lightning" and it's got a shadow cast behind it from something even brighter than lightning, it isn't lightning you're seeing, it's...
Lmao so he really is just like that 😂
13:52 it's core shadow, not cast shadow
27:42 highlight isn't the closest point to the sun
Jon, you're trying so hard to criticize, but you're really missing the point.
Now that I watch these videos, and inkmaster, I don’t even need to be a tattoo artist to throw shade at shitty tattoos, you guys are literally developing gnarly critics
I was watching the unemployable podcast one day and then the guests and Jon agreed that cyber sigilism looked like 'tribal with autism'. Now, I'm not planning on getting any cyber sigilism, but autism as an insult? No.
Curious how many people have ever said to you that the lines look off on your tattoos, outside of other pro artists? Just wondering if that actually happens in everyday life?
Spider-Man’s right eye was not the right size. The bottom of it should have been a decent bit higher.
The "Love on the Spectrum" joke wasn't cool. I don't like the show, not defending it, I think it's exploitative, but comparing acquired disability via traumatic brain injury to being born with a different neurotype is very ableist and demeaning.
(Guest commenting on Deadpool tattoo)
Green cause of the goblin, or doc, or the lizard… sandman has a green shirt… I mean we could go on..
You and Jon inspire me so much. I had a similar upbringing to both of you and your stories make me believe I can make it
What a collab love u both😊
I dont know why they go so harsh with the pokemen... personally I like that tattoo. Idk, i guess they are the professional
That Pikachu is a male. Lightning bolt tail= male. Heart shape = female. The more you know 🤣
But that’s a gen 1 pikachu. There was no gender distinctions & all the pikachu were extra chubby back then.
Look up Pokémon yellow
The casual ableism of using Love on the spectrum as an insult was really disappointing and unnecessarily mean
(It's a show about autistic people for those unaware)
That comment was so off putting and just really repulsive, I had to stop watching the video and honestly probably never going to watch anymore content from either of them.
Timestamp?
@@BabyJesus6631:33
Thank you. The ablest insult the “r word” or “short bus” is replaced with a show about autistics. I’m autistic and tattooed. I’ve always liked watching Pony’s videos but that comment was very unfunny and punching down at the wrong people. Just say the tattoo looks warped and shitty. 🤦
@@ireallylovecilantrowomp womp
I’ve never been a huge fan of back shading around a subject. You see that a lot with realism and you’re usually taught to use background in fine art but in tattoos unless the background can be used to tie in with more work it always looks awkward to me.
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I love that intro song man.
Jon has the vibe I feel 24/7 ( Im so over this shit)
The ear on the castle looks like a couple weeks old human to be!!
The dog portrait could have been allot more forced perspective. Tight details in the nose and gently blurring back to the rest of the face. Other than that, pretty solid tattoo
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Sonic would take those ears
No idea why you nitpicked the shit out of that Pikachu, it's literally fine. There are some not optimal choices with the design but the technique looks solid
Man, jon talks slow, Switched to 2x speed, and could still understand what jon was saying.
Yes Pikachu should have some solid black in the tail, but it's not present there, so pick apart the line weight there all day!
No, that Pikachu definitely isn't an "or her." Female Pikachu have a heart-shaped tail tip.
27:02 the dog looks like maybe it's got some sort of sickness. Like its way unhealthy.
I have never seen a pony video where he was being so negative.
You must be new here. He used to do Toilet Tattoo awards every week. I miss those days.
@@LavenderLydia I remember those
It looks like he’s just missing an arm. It’s good, just not executed correctly. The green shit, and the rotisserie chicken or turkey bottom. The water coming out. I mean I guess not all Pokemon are the same.