It is the same as yu gi oh where when you activate a spell or trap card you can chain your card and the last card is played first and if the last card effect is to disable a card it will work but if it to destroy the card the effect of the last card will still work but still be destroyed
I love to compare this mechanic to Yu-Gi-Oh!'s effect speeds and their interactions, they hold very similar principles especially in the order in which they resolve
I have been struggling hard with TFC lately but this video definitely explains it well for me. Not its not such a fuzzy concept. It all just comes down to timing and and patience. Thank you Demi!
Great video discussing a mechanic that many new players aren't aware of! One thing I want to add is that there are some cases where you can't TFC, which is known as chip lockout. There are some chips that lock you out from using any other chips for a short time after you use them. This lockout applies to TFCing as well. Knowing them all is excessive, but the big ones to keep in mind are Recovery chips, FullCust, and after firing a DarkThunder from BugDeathThunder. Loving all the content coming out and looking forward to more in the future!
your making videos I've dreamed of watching when MMBN came it back in the 2000s now this collection is bringing in the spotlight this game deserved thank you so much for the video I didn't even know there was a way to counter -time stop- chips
It's always annoying when people stack 9 million defensive chips because they see top players doing that, but proceed to just use them at the start. It's even worse than when they do the same thing but just mindlessly spam TFCs usually at the cost of their lifeaura and giga chips. Honestly low-tier PVP is really fun to watch when people aren't just trying to copy the high-tier players but w/o the skill.
So does the sequence matter? that is to say they time freeze first in hand but your time freeze is the last chip in your current hand. would you be able to counter even if your time freeze chip isn't playable yet?
So fun thing, you can use tango for pvp with the steam version. This will remove the 20 second timer, greatly improve net code, and let you start with all chips.
Like Yugioh chaining if an opponent uses a time freeze chip you can respond with your time freeze chip and you go before that chip then that chip activates
I use Blastman, you TFC with Invis. What happens: your Invis happens, then my Blastman. I use Judgeman, you TFC with Life Aura, I TFC with Eraseman. What happens: my Eraseman happens, then your Life Aura. My Judgeman doesn't happen. If you have a strong navi chip like Protoman ready, you might want to wait to see if they use Invis or Antidamage, and then TFC it with your Protoman. Otherwise, they can TFC your Protoman with their Invis/Antidamage. If you're in a strong position with an area advantage and a strong cross charge you can attack with, you might just sit on a strong navi chip and not use it. Your opponent will probably panic and then you counter them. Just don't try to TFC your opponent's Eraseman with your invis or antidamage. Your defense will go first, then Eraseman will just hit right through it.
When someone uses their screen dimming chip, you can counter with your own screen dimming chip. When you do this, your chip goes first. For example, lets say you start the round with an antidmg chip and your opponent starts the round with a ProtoManSP chip. If they use that chip, you can counter with your antidmg chip. By doing this, your antidmg chip activates before their ProtoManSP chip which means that when the attack from their chip lands it triggers antidmg and negates the damage it would have done to you.
Mmbn3 pvp is the best because this feature isn't present. Chaining to the opponent makes it like Yugioh and the player who starts first gets put at a loss imho
Yeah, the player who starts first being at a loss is the point. TFC is meant to add counter play to mindlessly mashing time freezing chips. As otherwise they are unavoidable with no way to beat them.
Ah yes, I sure enjoy being stunlocked for the rest of the round because I didnt mash the A button faster than my opponent and they used plantman. So damn fun am I right?
I understand why you might dislike it, but it objectively makes for a healthier competitive scene. Battle network is a fighting game at heart, and a good fighting game needs counter play. BN3 does have its charm, honestly I am not sure exactly how toxic the modern PvP scene is. Folder back is definitely one of the strongest chips in the series, if not the strongest, although it may be overhyped.
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this mechanic imo is a major factor in making bn go from a masher game to a tactical and competitive one
It is the same as yu gi oh where when you activate a spell or trap card you can chain your card and the last card is played first and if the last card effect is to disable a card it will work but if it to destroy the card the effect of the last card will still work but still be destroyed
@@lisabaldeo8418 yeah its my fave mechanic in bn tbh
I love to compare this mechanic to Yu-Gi-Oh!'s effect speeds and their interactions, they hold very similar principles especially in the order in which they resolve
I have been struggling hard with TFC lately but this video definitely explains it well for me. Not its not such a fuzzy concept. It all just comes down to timing and and patience. Thank you Demi!
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Great video discussing a mechanic that many new players aren't aware of! One thing I want to add is that there are some cases where you can't TFC, which is known as chip lockout. There are some chips that lock you out from using any other chips for a short time after you use them. This lockout applies to TFCing as well. Knowing them all is excessive, but the big ones to keep in mind are Recovery chips, FullCust, and after firing a DarkThunder from BugDeathThunder.
Loving all the content coming out and looking forward to more in the future!
I knew I was forgetting something!! Time to make another video hahaha
You also don't want to TFC with invi/anti damage when the enemy use piercing/cursor attacks respectively! That'd just waste them
As well TFCing area responses chips like JugdeMan and GrabRvng/Bnsh against another area control like area/panel grab
This channel has been my go to for mmbn pvp! Love the technical talk
Demi you have leveled me up as a netbattler I appreciate your detailed cuddles keep up the great work!
Thank you Jacob!! I'm working hard on a thorough Cross guide and Navi Cust Part 2! : )
Thanks for this. Lets me understand better what are going on in the PVP vids that I've been watching.
Absolutely! Do you have any other ideas RiceKnight? I'd love to help newer folks understand the lingo they might hear
First time I encountered this mechanic me and my opponent hit like 3 TFCS.
Great video! Very informative and helpful!
thanks so much. I asked about this in your stream a couple of days ago!
You sure did Chymistry!! I really appreciate the suggestions from everyone : )
your making videos I've dreamed of watching when MMBN came it back in the 2000s now this collection is bringing in the spotlight this game deserved thank you so much for the video I didn't even know there was a way to counter -time stop- chips
You've probably been told this before but you have an excellent speaking voice :)
That's very sweet of you to say : )
Well and easy explained. I was asking myself alot how the countersystem actually works. This explains everything. Thank you!
Funny how depite being very rare, Time Freeze Counters do exist in the normal games.
Best TFC, load up on woodman chips.
The anti navi thing was smth i didnt realise 💀 also the beat and rush bit was nice to know!
"You can Counter their Counter and they can Counter that Counter you Countered"
I had a stroke reading this and literally died (In game, of course)
And imagine using the Counter chip from BN4 lol
Been watching BN comp videos for a while and I just found out here only the last two chips in the chain remain huh
learned a lot!!
It's always annoying when people stack 9 million defensive chips because they see top players doing that, but proceed to just use them at the start. It's even worse than when they do the same thing but just mindlessly spam TFCs usually at the cost of their lifeaura and giga chips. Honestly low-tier PVP is really fun to watch when people aren't just trying to copy the high-tier players but w/o the skill.
So does the sequence matter? that is to say they time freeze first in hand but your time freeze is the last chip in your current hand. would you be able to counter even if your time freeze chip isn't playable yet?
In order to counter you need to have a time freeze chip active and ready to be used!
What happened to your audio? Quality went down a bit. Sounds grainy in the back.
Excellent info
This is basically trap cards from yugioh. Neat!
More like Chain Linking effects in Yugioh, except you can't chain link to your own effect, but more or less the same thing, yeah.
Where tf do you bn6 pvp? I literally cant find a match online? Am i doing something wrong?
any people having any luck finding a match on Steam version? 😢
So fun thing, you can use tango for pvp with the steam version. This will remove the 20 second timer, greatly improve net code, and let you start with all chips.
Freeze!!
I don’t get it
Like Yugioh chaining if an opponent uses a time freeze chip you can respond with your time freeze chip and you go before that chip then that chip activates
I use Blastman, you TFC with Invis. What happens: your Invis happens, then my Blastman.
I use Judgeman, you TFC with Life Aura, I TFC with Eraseman. What happens: my Eraseman happens, then your Life Aura. My Judgeman doesn't happen.
If you have a strong navi chip like Protoman ready, you might want to wait to see if they use Invis or Antidamage, and then TFC it with your Protoman. Otherwise, they can TFC your Protoman with their Invis/Antidamage. If you're in a strong position with an area advantage and a strong cross charge you can attack with, you might just sit on a strong navi chip and not use it. Your opponent will probably panic and then you counter them.
Just don't try to TFC your opponent's Eraseman with your invis or antidamage. Your defense will go first, then Eraseman will just hit right through it.
When someone uses their screen dimming chip, you can counter with your own screen dimming chip. When you do this, your chip goes first.
For example, lets say you start the round with an antidmg chip and your opponent starts the round with a ProtoManSP chip. If they use that chip, you can counter with your antidmg chip. By doing this, your antidmg chip activates before their ProtoManSP chip which means that when the attack from their chip lands it triggers antidmg and negates the damage it would have done to you.
Mmbn3 pvp is the best because this feature isn't present. Chaining to the opponent makes it like Yugioh and the player who starts first gets put at a loss imho
you realize the community is set on BN6 you can have your opinions but the player base is here
Yeah, the player who starts first being at a loss is the point. TFC is meant to add counter play to mindlessly mashing time freezing chips. As otherwise they are unavoidable with no way to beat them.
Ah yes, I sure enjoy being stunlocked for the rest of the round because I didnt mash the A button faster than my opponent and they used plantman. So damn fun am I right?
counterplay is good. stop spamming
I understand why you might dislike it, but it objectively makes for a healthier competitive scene. Battle network is a fighting game at heart, and a good fighting game needs counter play.
BN3 does have its charm, honestly I am not sure exactly how toxic the modern PvP scene is. Folder back is definitely one of the strongest chips in the series, if not the strongest, although it may be overhyped.