Oh the funny thing is a insider said they weren't going to do it because of esbr rating costs and lack of sales. Nintendo took the fallout for some increase in sales
Maybe there's more to it than what's being presented. Ever wonder why it's only IFI that's reporting this and no other developers are? Ever wonder why Nintendo is still allowing more explicit games on the eShop but for some reason has problems with IFI's games? There's more to this and I think IFI is not telling us everything. Like, for example, the "guidelines" referred to in IFI's statement, the way most people interpret it at least, are non-existent. As some game developers for the Switch have pointed out, among Nintendo's content guidelines, there are none that prohibit ecchi fanservice of the kind present in Neptunia as a whole. Either IFI are lying their asses off or there is some other technical guideline they failed to meet such as accurate product info or security issue. If you weren't aware, this wouldn't be the first time IFI's gets into trouble for this sort of thing (remember the swearing patch in SvS because they didn't accurately report their content tags to the ESRB?). Keep in mind, this is the same eShop that regularly features hentai games.
This is opposite of what happened to a certain visual novel some years ago, on playstation a clearly adult woman sunbathing in a very generous bikini was censored with sunflares, while she was uncensored on Switch. Someone went from Sony California and started working at NoA.
Bikinis are still allowed on men. They sexualize men just like they always have, now even moreso. They just don't want to appeal to men, meaning they don't want men to buy or play their games.
We're not allowed to be attracted to beautiful girls in swimsuits or in anything. Western games have been censoring everything and making female characters so ugly. Japan are the pioneers of sexy female characters and we just cannot have that in the west anymore for some reason.
Bro what is going on with nintendo right now? You'd think the reverse would be happening or is sony in such a bad state they cant afford to piss people off?
@@BleedForTheWorldThey aren't showing it, but I'm convinced that concord was such a commercial failure that there are a lot of movement going on behind the scenes we don't know about. Cause let's not kid ourselves an 8 year project being shut down in 2 weeks is gonna hurt and there's likely a lot of restructurings going on
The bastards! Nintendo allows hentai shovel ware make it to their shop and clutter up the slow as hell store yet swimsuits in Neptunia and the entirety of the remake trilogy is not okay? Someone make it make sense.
If you think about it, if Nintendo is still allowing hentai games on the eShop, but has problems with IFI's games, is it really Nintendo that's the problem or IFI? Since Nintendo is allowing more explicit games on the eShop, the issue isn't with fanservice or the explicitness of the content; there's more to it and IFI isn't being honest. Think about it, why are there no other developers having this issue with Nintendo?
It's funny how murder and gore in games are ethically and reasonably accepted but somehow a little bit of skin and fanservice violates an imaginary Western video game commandment. Well there goes my Switch 2 purchase. Glad I ditched Sony and Nintendo for a PC and a Steam Deck.
steam deck got more power under the hood anyway... we'll see when their dusty "new" hardware is announced. ( it'll be last gen on arrival ) i cared less and less about their games as time went on too. i am not into wet paper towel weapons. i also can't justify paying 60-70 bucks for a game when i can get 10 amazing indies for the same money. at this point, the only reason for nintendo for me personally would be xenoblade. but i can just watch someone stream their playthrough.... welcome to my blacklist, nintendo. you're in good company there. joining the likes of EA, ubisoft, activision, bethesda (guess i'll just call it what it is now - mircosoft) , gearbox, seedy project red, rockstar.... i don't miss any of them either. retro and indie games are way too much of a good time to bother with these dickhead companies nowadays.
The weird part is, there is currently no sign of it actually having reversed again. My current theories are that this is deliberate trolling on the side of their side to take revenge(By giving Nintendo bad PR) for the series being blocked in the west, or Nintendo finally noticed that the Nintendo Wii is a character in these games and not only curses people out, but also accurately gives parody to how they usually act towards noncompliers in the fanbase.
Those are still available. It's the swimsuit dlc from the new game that is not going to be available on the Switch. (Let's hope they don't go a step further and start going after previous approved games.)
The main target demographic of this game is teenagers. Removing the swimsuit DLC because young teenagers are in swimsuits is ridiculous. I have no real desire for this DLC, but I'm sure there's a lot of teenagers that would love to have it.
Bruh, I'm getting tired of these Nintendo Guideline. They're getting good with the fans and now they wanna treat us like toddlers? Who the fuck do they think buying their games?
NoA being stupid and going backwards was not on my bingo card. I shall be getting the PS5 verison, but not without some recon. Who knows, perhaps Soyny will also do something stupid...
So Nintendo can allow a series like Gal Gun Double Peace on their platform, but not Neptunia swimsuits? They might as well go all in, there is a ton of borderline hentai games already in the eShop.
Kinda dumb when you consider the huge ammount of shovelware "hentai" games they have at the e-shop, and the worst part is, the swimsuits for this Neptunia game are insanely tame, if sony is ok with these, how come is a no-no for nintendo? I legit can't even begin to understand the reason behind such idiotic desicion.
Nintendo needs to tell us what these 'updated guidelines' actually are, though I'd wager Nintendo is doing this to counter any potential negative press from the Karenverse before the Switch 2 drops. I expect they'll backtrack, or straight up forget to enforce, all these mystery guidelines a month or two after the new system comes out and they're out of the frontlines.
I will never understand censorship and it feels like it gets worse and more stupid every year. In this case there is absolutely no harm and there are just stupid people that are offended by not adult looking anime characters in swimsuits and they are not the audience anyway. I think the only reason they allow those AI shovelware games on the eshop is because the ladies look old enough.
Even though I've never played any Neptunia series, that sucks that Nintendo is not allowing swimsuit outfits in Neptunia series for Switch.🤦♂️ If it's the localizers of Nintendo (aka, Nintendo of America/Europe) that's not allowing swimsuits in Neptunia for the Switch, then I might buy the next-gen Nintendo console and their games directly from Japan and the independent retail stores. But if it's Nintendo of Japan that's not allowing swimsuits in Neptunia for the Nintendo switch, then the future of Nintendo/Japanese games is doomed!💀
that never made sense, so their change of their whole rating system is for this 1 game? why arent other games being documented of the same type of censorship too? that esrb take makes zero sense
@@anonymist-n8z In fairness, people have been naming like at least half a dozen other games that have all been having issues recently. The argument is whether this is a shift in standards for the ESRB, Nintendo of America (obvious culprit), and a few conspiracy theorists who think that some AA studios are plotting to destroy Nintendo's reputation somehow.
Just finished Sister vs Sister which i really liked cause really good story and finished Game Maker which wasnt that good but i was disappointed booth had not a single additional Outfit to unlock. Is this not a thing anymore ? I used to be able to buy tons of Outfits in Neptunia games. (PC)
As I said before in the cancellation of the western Switch release of Neptunia Re;Birth series and Death end re;Quest Code Z, more bad things happened to me and the players who owned the Switch.
My opinion regarding this, it is either the investor or ESRB pressure on both Nintendo or the devs to not release the stuff that reduces the game passing ESRB rating. Perhaps it is kind of possibility that is only apply to the English version. Not sure about the Cero or Japan side.
Neptunia had a good run on switch. It's a shame that it's all downhill from here. I'm starting to wonder why this is happening. I want to say it's a censorship thing but games like fairy tail 2 are in tact. Something else is going on. something idea factory or nintendo aren't telling us
Remember what they did with Fire Emblem Engage. They overreact with 'underage' characters, idk if Fairy tail had any characters that looked underage but you know subjective that is, especially in anime-related media
I hate nintendo of america and their garbage. Yet we still have little witch nobeta?? Bro nintendo of japan needs to step in this makes me not wanna buy switch 2.
This is exactly the reason why the Neptunia games have gotten so toned down over the years. Characters "mysteriously" getting sidelined. They not getting VR scenes in the new games or fanservice anymore like they did long ago. Its censorship and the pressure to stay within the increasingly strict guidelines of Sony, Steam and Nintendo. There is a reason why newer games in the series tend to focus more on the transformed versions of the girls when it comes to spicier scenes lol. And it'll only get worse. For sure Idea Factory will remember this and feel pressure to develop content and dlcs in a more safe direction so that next time it'll be allowed on all platforms.
This is so tiresome, Switch 2 went from a day one for me to being uncertain, the worst part is that I can't even say I'll go to sony / xbox instead because they are still even worse, not even Steam is safe...
atleast pc has the ability to decensor things when it happens, sister vs sister is censored out of the box but theres a uncensored patch on gamebanana that reverses it. these gaming platforms are just getting worse and worse overrall, and that includes nintendo
Are we seeing an inversion? Playstation was the censorship police, and now it's Nintendo? I think it's only Nintendo of America that is the problem though, all these games are still releasing uncensored in Japan.
Unfortunately, the age rating systems have not worked for a long time. Even at its dawn, it was more or less working, and, many people followed it no matter what country it is in (and some people followed American system). Of course, those who wanted to bypass it, bypassed it by buying working pirated versions or downloading from a torrent, which showed the other side of the system. Nowadays, because of the constant censorship on some projects (or even more), have long since come up with a way around it or just people make a mod, you install, that's it. No censorship, everything is in place. It reminds me of the censorship in Neptunia SVS with dialogue, which is very dumb to me. With DLC the situation is even weirder. What's so dangerous about swimming costumes, I don't understand. If you go to the same beaches, there you can sometimes see someone without it, and no one cares about it even if there are children on the beach. Actually, it's very strange and muddy too. I'll have to either wait in Steam or buy the PS version. Although about the latter option I'd better wait. In case they decide to remove it too, but later.
FFS I'm so over digital stores mandating content policy beyond what's actually legal to sell. Let devs and publishers stay in charge of the creative direction - especially as long as the store you operate is the only place to get said content on a given platform. At this point we need a website to quickly find out which is the defintive release to buy beyond obviously PC releases typically being way ahead, since if you don't get it uncensored there, there's usually patches, extra text files and the like. I'd still like to know which stores on PC have the best out of box experience without eggregious DRM (no DLSite is not a good store) and I'd also like to know which physical release is the best pick. This is getting way too tedious to make informared purchase decisions. I don't say this lightly, but years of digital stores fucking this up has shown only laws will make all parties involved give a hoot to let you easily make informed decisions.
There are. Its just that no one covers them. And its mostly Steam or Sony issues. For example "Little Witch Nobeta" was censored and forced to redesign its swimsuit outfit for all platforms before it released. -On Steam "Hungry Lamb: Traveling in the Late Ming Dynasty" was delayed by a month due to undisclosed Steam censorship issues. -Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien a classic visual novel had a whole routes cut out of the game for all versions of the remake to be allowed on Steam and Sony platforms. -Same thing likely happened with Kanon another classic visual novel which used to have 18+ versions always released all the way up to 2018, more than a decade after it first released. -Some have chosen to just censor themselves before release like all of the Type-Moon games or the Utawarerumono games so that they don't have to worry about not getting on Steam, Sony or Nintendo or about offending Western customers. Can't censor a game if it has nothing to censor anymore.
Those swim suits don't even look that exposing. I guess its business as usual for Nintendo. Honestly if devs provided the collectables with game disks for PC, I would have dropped consoles a long time ago.
It might not be Nintendo's fault. Sungrand Studios made a video about how Death end re;Quest: Code Z and Neptunia Re;Birth games not releasing on Switch was most likely caused by age ratings becoming more strict in US and Europe (ESRB and PEGI respectively) rather than due to Nintendo changing their guidelines. He has experience releasing games on Switch and never had his games denied based on content. His theory is that Nintendo is basically shielding IF from backlash by pretending that the games (or the DLC in this case) don't comply with Nintendo's guidelines when the real issue is that that content would require the games to have a higher age rating (M instead of T for example) which IF might consider to be a big hit to sales.
We don't really know what the situation is. The theory of rating boards getting more strict has been thrown around for years without any actual proof. There is no obvious answer and all we can do is speculate.
They were decent speculations, but there's a lot more going on that makes them not very likely to be the case. At a minimum, it completely ignores that they are still releasing on PS without issue. It also ignores various issues with other games on Nintendo right now, like Tokyo Clanpool.
@@MasakanSolaris It might according to modern ESRB standards. There are examples of games that have been re-released, such as Majora's Mask, and received a higher rating than they did when they released originally.
Same reason why the those characters don't get fanserviced much at all anymore or why they didn't get VR scenes in those games. They know Steam and Sony are strict, far stricter than they once were. And now Nintendo is getting in on the action. Gone are the days where even untransformed Peashy got a spicy official poster with Plutia lol. Self-censorship is the thing that no one seems to notice because it happens under the table. And I'm sure we will start seeing more self-censorship in Neptunia games after this. If they do make swimsuit dlcs in the future they'll feel the need to be more careful in order to adjust to new pressures. Most won't notice that anything was censored when that happens. Except the hardcore fans like me who begin to notice how our favorite characters don't show up much anymore or how they often don't get included in the fun much. Or how Neptune base form keeps getting ignored in favor of the Purple Heart form all of the sudden.
How bad are the swimsuits? Do they fall off due to Damage! They look tame to me? Did a feminist get into Nintendo and is punishing chuds for trump winning? Is this the same with the Japanese version? Guess ill go pc when it comes there
Nintendo of America can choose what is allowed on there stores . And the person making game has to compile with their demands or can’t sell on their platform
Let's be real, every Nintendo console is just a husk for Pokemon and Mario games. That's the only reason I'm getting the Switch 2. I wouldn't even buy a Neptunia game on a Playstation let alone a Nintendo console. Neptunia games belong on PC where you can bypass sh*tty censorship with custom patches and fill them with nsfw mods.
They are noticing more now and are getting stricter. Like how Nekopara 5 likely won't make it on Steam since it'll finally have the Shigure romance. Or Nekoworks knows that Steam, Sony and Nintendo are more strict now and will do things differently in order to get passed their censorship. Self-censorship like not having the romance for her or having a timeskip first before the spicy stuff for her happens. Steam is a good example of this because sometimes games truly do fly under the radar depending on their genre or because they aren't in English. And some sneak passed by having patches on their obscure foreign websites. It could simply be that they know Neptunia games are more accessible to a broader audience. The fact that they have actual gameplay and aren't of the visual novel niche could have been what tipped the scales.
Its not Nintendo... but new policies to rating system that have been added. Nintendo is just intentionally talking the blow for the publishers like they have always done in the past. Its easier for them to take the blow of angry fans than the publisher/studios of smaller companies.
@xtranathor8143 because both Nintendo and Idea Factory are Japanese base companies. Their games go through the rating system first there. Most likely there is now conflict in Japan with the rating system changes and now definition and Nintendo guidelines.
@@xtranathor8143 People will target the big bad in the room without looking at the underlying details at what's happening around them. Compile hearts most likely doesn't want to change the game rating in Japan for it's game due to the adverse effects it will have just to get the game on Nintendo. Nintendo is not going to make an exception for it's policies just for one game because that would mean they are cherry picking and that would look bad on them. Especially since they just released games with way more fan service last week and last month but we're rates differently
@@xtranathor8143 Nintendo intentionally allowed this message to pit them as the bad guy in this situation so they can take the heat for this issue. Other wise (especially in Japan) you don't put the blame of an issue on someone above you that you're doing business with. (They probably told them what to write)
So now that Nintendo is more than comfortable financially, they are now going back to business as usual?
This was going to happen sooner or later. People who thought it would stay this way on nintendo consoles were wrong right from the start.
You trust companies? lmao
Funny how swimsuit dlc for fairytail 2 anime game was approved by Nintendo says it all
This @@Nein99x
You mean making no games? They've been in business for years then
This is so backwards. Nintendo said they don't tell third parties what they can and can't put in their games. Guess they changed their minds.
Hi Don chan
cry more
Oh the funny thing is a insider said they weren't going to do it because of esbr rating costs and lack of sales.
Nintendo took the fallout for some increase in sales
Maybe there's more to it than what's being presented. Ever wonder why it's only IFI that's reporting this and no other developers are? Ever wonder why Nintendo is still allowing more explicit games on the eShop but for some reason has problems with IFI's games? There's more to this and I think IFI is not telling us everything. Like, for example, the "guidelines" referred to in IFI's statement, the way most people interpret it at least, are non-existent. As some game developers for the Switch have pointed out, among Nintendo's content guidelines, there are none that prohibit ecchi fanservice of the kind present in Neptunia as a whole. Either IFI are lying their asses off or there is some other technical guideline they failed to meet such as accurate product info or security issue. If you weren't aware, this wouldn't be the first time IFI's gets into trouble for this sort of thing (remember the swearing patch in SvS because they didn't accurately report their content tags to the ESRB?). Keep in mind, this is the same eShop that regularly features hentai games.
The answer would be Nintendo of America and Europe
So Nintendo isn't longer a safe space to buy japanese waifu themed games. In PC steam and gog less. Censorship is stupid.
good, move on
I blame this on Nintendo of America. Anytime they get to make company decision, it ruin it for everyone.
@@kidrobot. theyre on pc and thriving, regard
@@anonymist-n8z i know they're on steam, who said they weren't? nice try though
So move on from something that is doing perfectly fine? Zero sense
This is opposite of what happened to a certain visual novel some years ago, on playstation a clearly adult woman sunbathing in a very generous bikini was censored with sunflares, while she was uncensored on Switch. Someone went from Sony California and started working at NoA.
Why are bikinis censored in a lot of games theses days?
It's nonsensical; it's like the ratings boards have never been to a beach in their life!
Bikinis are still allowed on men. They sexualize men just like they always have, now even moreso. They just don't want to appeal to men, meaning they don't want men to buy or play their games.
To put it frankly, it has to do with the lolis being s3xualized
We're not allowed to be attracted to beautiful girls in swimsuits or in anything. Western games have been censoring everything and making female characters so ugly. Japan are the pioneers of sexy female characters and we just cannot have that in the west anymore for some reason.
They probably haven't... @@xtranathor8143
Switch 2 is no longer day 1 for me.
That's the exact thing that crossed my mind as well.
You don’t buy their consoles for AAA games
@@therealjaystone2344 Is neptunia even considered AAA?
@@therealjaystone2344 Neptunia is AAA????
@@mountainmgtow5421 Neptunia games are always third party games
so nintendo is flipping the script again because they're back on top? im so tired...
Everything I loved as a young person is being ruined.😢
good
@@kidrobot. cringe
Bro what is going on with nintendo right now? You'd think the reverse would be happening or is sony in such a bad state they cant afford to piss people off?
How is Sony "in such a bad state" when they posted higher than 2023?
@@BleedForTheWorldThey aren't showing it, but I'm convinced that concord was such a commercial failure that there are a lot of movement going on behind the scenes we don't know about. Cause let's not kid ourselves an 8 year project being shut down in 2 weeks is gonna hurt and there's likely a lot of restructurings going on
@@BleedForTheWorld Concord cost them 400 Million and closed in servers in under 6 weeks.
@@BleedForTheWorldi think he’s not talking about financially, more like their reputation.
@@overlordzetta7410 yes and then?
The censorship ball is in the other court again. It's all so tiresome.
The bastards! Nintendo allows hentai shovel ware make it to their shop and clutter up the slow as hell store yet swimsuits in Neptunia and the entirety of the remake trilogy is not okay? Someone make it make sense.
If you think about it, if Nintendo is still allowing hentai games on the eShop, but has problems with IFI's games, is it really Nintendo that's the problem or IFI? Since Nintendo is allowing more explicit games on the eShop, the issue isn't with fanservice or the explicitness of the content; there's more to it and IFI isn't being honest. Think about it, why are there no other developers having this issue with Nintendo?
I think I can buy hentai puzzle games on the switch which show WAY more skin.. So why is that OK but this isn't?
I'm confused.
Rules change over time
@@SuiteLifeofDioBrando Bit of a piss poor excuse but whatever.
loli characters vs normal anime girls
"Normal" what?
@@anonymist-n8z adult looking ones.
Nintendo strikes once more. And why isn't IFI releasing their games on PC as of late? I doubt they would have trouble with the swimsuit DLC there
They tech are as you can use the Xbox game store to get game maker
There's always a big delay, although I don't know if we're overdue a release or not.
It's funny how murder and gore in games are ethically and reasonably accepted but somehow a little bit of skin and fanservice violates an imaginary Western video game commandment.
Well there goes my Switch 2 purchase. Glad I ditched Sony and Nintendo for a PC and a Steam Deck.
sure bud
Steam Deck is better anyways
@@kidrobot. cope harder
steam deck got more power under the hood anyway... we'll see when their dusty "new" hardware is announced. ( it'll be last gen on arrival )
i cared less and less about their games as time went on too. i am not into wet paper towel weapons. i also can't justify paying 60-70 bucks for a game when i can get 10 amazing indies for the same money.
at this point, the only reason for nintendo for me personally would be xenoblade. but i can just watch someone stream their playthrough....
welcome to my blacklist, nintendo.
you're in good company there. joining the likes of EA, ubisoft, activision, bethesda (guess i'll just call it what it is now - mircosoft) , gearbox, seedy project red, rockstar....
i don't miss any of them either. retro and indie games are way too much of a good time to bother with these dickhead companies nowadays.
As always: Nuck Fintendo!
Weren't the censorship issues on the side of Sony some years ago while Nintendo were the lax ones? How did the roles switch so suddenly???
Because the Switch 2 is coming sooner than later and Nintendo is rethinking their policies ahead of launch.
They're not switching. Nothing is changing at SIE, just that there's less censorship either because have already adapted or they've avoided PS.
The weird part is, there is currently no sign of it actually having reversed again. My current theories are that this is deliberate trolling on the side of their side to take revenge(By giving Nintendo bad PR) for the series being blocked in the west, or Nintendo finally noticed that the Nintendo Wii is a character in these games and not only curses people out, but also accurately gives parody to how they usually act towards noncompliers in the fanbase.
Its nintendo of america not japan i hate america woke garbage country
Same way they did back then. It used to be you wen't with Sony from Triple A and JRPGs. Then Sony moved their HQ to America
Why are bikini girls censored? Anyone can go to the beach and see them in real life. Who cares.
gamers that are into these games don't go out
@@kidrobot. says the nintendrone
@@anonymist-n8z says the weeb incel
@@kidrobot. wow buzzwords a land whale on bluesky would use lmao, i struck a nerve
Maybe they want us to go out and look at actual girls 😂
I'm glad I bought the ones for VII when they were available.
Did they include it all in VIIR?
Those are still available. It's the swimsuit dlc from the new game that is not going to be available on the Switch. (Let's hope they don't go a step further and start going after previous approved games.)
Do mean the American version or all versions? Nintendo America is a different vranch under their own rules.
The western Publisher pulled the DLC not Nintendo.
@@moffant4916 I think it's the American and European versions. I checked the Japanese eShop, and the DLC is definitely there.
Is this coming out on PC?
Yes and it’s censored too
@@therealjaystone2344 HOLYSH*T 😨
Imma go back to playing rebirth games again 😂
@@therealjaystone2344 Ty
😥
Any opinion on best neptunia w fan service ?
The main target demographic of this game is teenagers. Removing the swimsuit DLC because young teenagers are in swimsuits is ridiculous. I have no real desire for this DLC, but I'm sure there's a lot of teenagers that would love to have it.
Majority of people don’t buy DLCs because they’re expensive too
@@therealjaystone2344 Speak for yourself kid.
@@therealjaystone2344 Neptunia DLC is reasonably priced though.
Bruh, I'm getting tired of these Nintendo Guideline. They're getting good with the fans and now they wanna treat us like toddlers? Who the fuck do they think buying their games?
NoA being stupid and going backwards was not on my bingo card. I shall be getting the PS5 verison, but not without some recon. Who knows, perhaps Soyny will also do something stupid...
So Nintendo can allow a series like Gal Gun Double Peace on their platform, but not Neptunia swimsuits? They might as well go all in, there is a ton of borderline hentai games already in the eShop.
Kinda dumb when you consider the huge ammount of shovelware "hentai" games they have at the e-shop, and the worst part is, the swimsuits for this Neptunia game are insanely tame, if sony is ok with these, how come is a no-no for nintendo? I legit can't even begin to understand the reason behind such idiotic desicion.
cuz you're the idiot here. one companies rules doesn't matter against another's
@@kidrobot. nice projection
@anonymist-n8z nice projection
@@anonymist-n8z Don't bother, the kid is on his "contrarian tough boy" phase lol.
Nintendo needs to tell us what these 'updated guidelines' actually are, though I'd wager Nintendo is doing this to counter any potential negative press from the Karenverse before the Switch 2 drops. I expect they'll backtrack, or straight up forget to enforce, all these mystery guidelines a month or two after the new system comes out and they're out of the frontlines.
Whats the name of the game shown at 3:34?
Snowbreak containment I believe
@@zerosickThis is still a good game but sadly they bent the knee and censored outfits 😅
@@TTen-schir53b9 I believe they left an easy way to uncensor the PC version, just modify a line of text in a file
I will never understand censorship and it feels like it gets worse and more stupid every year. In this case there is absolutely no harm and there are just stupid people that are offended by not adult looking anime characters in swimsuits and they are not the audience anyway. I think the only reason they allow those AI shovelware games on the eshop is because the ladies look old enough.
that is most likely the reason, legit 62iq
Even though I've never played any Neptunia series, that sucks that Nintendo is not allowing swimsuit outfits in Neptunia series for Switch.🤦♂️
If it's the localizers of Nintendo (aka, Nintendo of America/Europe) that's not allowing swimsuits in Neptunia for the Switch, then I might buy the next-gen Nintendo console and their games directly from Japan and the independent retail stores.
But if it's Nintendo of Japan that's not allowing swimsuits in Neptunia for the Nintendo switch, then the future of Nintendo/Japanese games is doomed!💀
they're not good games anyways
@kidrobot. What are you talking about?
@@keeganmcfarland7507 it's obvious. also the future of nintendo and japanese games aren't doomed
@@kidrobot. They are good games to other people. And I consider them good.
@@jarretticeearthguard8614 okay
Uzumi is a swimsuit cute Orange Heart in a swimsuit would be a Spiral Dream
@@JohnSmith-xq1pz Indeed it would. 😊
Dam that's totally a bad move for Nintendo USA
Nintendo was usually the one who let these naughty games go through, come on yooo
So, are the nay-sayers still blaming the ESRB and not Nintendo? Does the ESRB have different rating standards for different consoles now? x'D
Yep people just don’t wanna blame nitendo or aka nitendo Europe and USA . Neptunia is a t Rated series.
that never made sense, so their change of their whole rating system is for this 1 game? why arent other games being documented of the same type of censorship too? that esrb take makes zero sense
@@anonymist-n8z In fairness, people have been naming like at least half a dozen other games that have all been having issues recently. The argument is whether this is a shift in standards for the ESRB, Nintendo of America (obvious culprit), and a few conspiracy theorists who think that some AA studios are plotting to destroy Nintendo's reputation somehow.
@@SoverineSR yeah either way it ultimately shows the flaws of these gaming platforms. im very glad i sold my switch a while back
they're probably starting here because of the Chicken neckwear that's gotten so prominent on the eshop
Just finished Sister vs Sister which i really liked cause really good story and finished Game Maker which wasnt that good but i was disappointed booth had not a single additional Outfit to unlock.
Is this not a thing anymore ? I used to be able to buy tons of Outfits in Neptunia games. (PC)
The era of weeb games on Nintendo has ended.
is steam good too for swimsuits? cause i can't remember if it was this or a different franchise that had gotten iffy with fanservice on playstation
As I said before in the cancellation of the western Switch release of Neptunia Re;Birth series and Death end re;Quest Code Z, more bad things happened to me and the players who owned the Switch.
My opinion regarding this, it is either the investor or ESRB pressure on both Nintendo or the devs to not release the stuff that reduces the game passing ESRB rating. Perhaps it is kind of possibility that is only apply to the English version. Not sure about the Cero or Japan side.
Neptunia had a good run on switch. It's a shame that it's all downhill from here. I'm starting to wonder why this is happening. I want to say it's a censorship thing but games like fairy tail 2 are in tact. Something else is going on. something idea factory or nintendo aren't telling us
Remember what they did with Fire Emblem Engage. They overreact with 'underage' characters, idk if Fairy tail had any characters that looked underage but you know subjective that is, especially in anime-related media
Age ratings in videogames is a huge mistake 💯
Are the swimsuits only absent outside of Japan?
so it still remains in the jp version?
are they slowly backing away from the west?
Within the same generation, Nintendo changed their policies? What happened? DEI?
It obvious some one is saying anything moe or loli looking is not allowed here .
I just started buying the Neptunia game on PC and PS
Yet the rebirth trilogy isnt on playstation store US yet swimsuits banned on Nintendo switch.
We're a step away from Nintendo nailing you for having it in your name.
Ridiculous. Swimsuits aren't inherently sexual.... 🙄
Nintendo allows hentai games all over its eshop, but the swimsuits are too much? 🤦♂️
I hate nintendo of america and their garbage.
Yet we still have little witch nobeta?? Bro nintendo of japan needs to step in this makes me not wanna buy switch 2.
Nep effing nep.
This is exactly the reason why the Neptunia games have gotten so toned down over the years.
Characters "mysteriously" getting sidelined. They not getting VR scenes in the new games or fanservice anymore like they did long ago.
Its censorship and the pressure to stay within the increasingly strict guidelines of Sony, Steam and Nintendo.
There is a reason why newer games in the series tend to focus more on the transformed versions of the girls when it comes to spicier scenes lol. And it'll only get worse.
For sure Idea Factory will remember this and feel pressure to develop content and dlcs in a more safe direction so that next time it'll be allowed on all platforms.
We've known this for a long time. Who wants to start a petition?
This is so tiresome, Switch 2 went from a day one for me to being uncertain, the worst part is that I can't even say I'll go to sony / xbox instead because they are still even worse, not even Steam is safe...
atleast pc has the ability to decensor things when it happens, sister vs sister is censored out of the box but theres a uncensored patch on gamebanana that reverses it. these gaming platforms are just getting worse and worse overrall, and that includes nintendo
Nintendo needs to walk back the censorship
No where is safe.
The more things change, the more they stay the same 😅
I was ready to abandon PlayStation next gen for the Switch 2. First Stellar Blade, and now this, I'm confused. I don't know what ro do anymore.
Are we seeing an inversion? Playstation was the censorship police, and now it's Nintendo? I think it's only Nintendo of America that is the problem though, all these games are still releasing uncensored in Japan.
Unfortunately, the age rating systems have not worked for a long time. Even at its dawn, it was more or less working, and, many people followed it no matter what country it is in (and some people followed American system). Of course, those who wanted to bypass it, bypassed it by buying working pirated versions or downloading from a torrent, which showed the other side of the system. Nowadays, because of the constant censorship on some projects (or even more), have long since come up with a way around it or just people make a mod, you install, that's it. No censorship, everything is in place. It reminds me of the censorship in Neptunia SVS with dialogue, which is very dumb to me. With DLC the situation is even weirder. What's so dangerous about swimming costumes, I don't understand. If you go to the same beaches, there you can sometimes see someone without it, and no one cares about it even if there are children on the beach. Actually, it's very strange and muddy too. I'll have to either wait in Steam or buy the PS version. Although about the latter option I'd better wait. In case they decide to remove it too, but later.
So they keep tons of adult games on eshop but this is a no no :D
Content Policy changes won't become retroactive because of the complications of having to look back at older games.
FFS I'm so over digital stores mandating content policy beyond what's actually legal to sell. Let devs and publishers stay in charge of the creative direction - especially as long as the store you operate is the only place to get said content on a given platform. At this point we need a website to quickly find out which is the defintive release to buy beyond obviously PC releases typically being way ahead, since if you don't get it uncensored there, there's usually patches, extra text files and the like. I'd still like to know which stores on PC have the best out of box experience without eggregious DRM (no DLSite is not a good store) and I'd also like to know which physical release is the best pick. This is getting way too tedious to make informared purchase decisions. I don't say this lightly, but years of digital stores fucking this up has shown only laws will make all parties involved give a hoot to let you easily make informed decisions.
Why are there no other developers having this problem? IFI is hiding something.
There are. Its just that no one covers them. And its mostly Steam or Sony issues.
For example "Little Witch Nobeta" was censored and forced to redesign its swimsuit outfit for all platforms before it released.
-On Steam "Hungry Lamb: Traveling in the Late Ming Dynasty" was delayed by a month due to undisclosed Steam censorship issues.
-Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien a classic visual novel had a whole routes cut out of the game for all versions of the remake to be allowed on Steam and Sony platforms.
-Same thing likely happened with Kanon another classic visual novel which used to have 18+ versions always released all the way up to 2018, more than a decade after it first released.
-Some have chosen to just censor themselves before release like all of the Type-Moon games or the Utawarerumono games so that they don't have to worry about not getting on Steam, Sony or Nintendo or about offending Western customers. Can't censor a game if it has nothing to censor anymore.
Old Nintendo is back in full force 🤦
Those swim suits don't even look that exposing. I guess its business as usual for Nintendo.
Honestly if devs provided the collectables with game disks for PC, I would have dropped consoles a long time ago.
Good think i never buy a Nintendo product and never will 😎
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It might not be Nintendo's fault. Sungrand Studios made a video about how Death end re;Quest: Code Z and Neptunia Re;Birth games not releasing on Switch was most likely caused by age ratings becoming more strict in US and Europe (ESRB and PEGI respectively) rather than due to Nintendo changing their guidelines. He has experience releasing games on Switch and never had his games denied based on content. His theory is that Nintendo is basically shielding IF from backlash by pretending that the games (or the DLC in this case) don't comply with Nintendo's guidelines when the real issue is that that content would require the games to have a higher age rating (M instead of T for example) which IF might consider to be a big hit to sales.
Wait so you're saying neptunia counts as an M Rated game now?!
But rember if neptunia doggos is her whit out swimsuits than yea nitendo as well
We don't really know what the situation is. The theory of rating boards getting more strict has been thrown around for years without any actual proof. There is no obvious answer and all we can do is speculate.
They were decent speculations, but there's a lot more going on that makes them not very likely to be the case. At a minimum, it completely ignores that they are still releasing on PS without issue. It also ignores various issues with other games on Nintendo right now, like Tokyo Clanpool.
@@MasakanSolaris It might according to modern ESRB standards. There are examples of games that have been re-released, such as Majora's Mask, and received a higher rating than they did when they released originally.
Nintendo what happen to you !!???? 😭😭😭
i highly doubt its the swimsuit the issue, its the fact its LOLI type characters.
Same reason why the those characters don't get fanserviced much at all anymore or why they didn't get VR scenes in those games.
They know Steam and Sony are strict, far stricter than they once were.
And now Nintendo is getting in on the action.
Gone are the days where even untransformed Peashy got a spicy official poster with Plutia lol.
Self-censorship is the thing that no one seems to notice because it happens under the table.
And I'm sure we will start seeing more self-censorship in Neptunia games after this.
If they do make swimsuit dlcs in the future they'll feel the need to be more careful in order to adjust to new pressures. Most won't notice that anything was censored when that happens. Except the hardcore fans like me who begin to notice how our favorite characters don't show up much anymore or how they often don't get included in the fun much. Or how Neptune base form keeps getting ignored in favor of the Purple Heart form all of the sudden.
obviously they ban the swimsuit cuz Blanc is fl- *gets Tanzerin*
Guess I will stick to Steam Deck.
I pre ordered the Limited Edition versions for both PS4 and Switch because i am a Nepaholic. 🤣
Serves you right.
How bad are the swimsuits? Do they fall off due to Damage! They look tame to me? Did a feminist get into Nintendo and is punishing chuds for trump winning? Is this the same with the Japanese version? Guess ill go pc when it comes there
Well rip future fanservice dlc on switch . Still not purchasing it on ps5 cuz I travel a lot and I hate the ps one thing … so meh
Doesnt ps5 have remote play
It's just a g*d damn swimsuit. Why did they have to remove IT?
Hope sega makes a new console and saves us from this trash censorship... I guess asia releases with translations help too.
Pretty sure it was the Western publisher that pulled the DLC. Nintendo does not care.
Nintendo of America can choose what is allowed on there stores . And the person making game has to compile with their demands or can’t sell on their platform
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Let's be real, every Nintendo console is just a husk for Pokemon and Mario games. That's the only reason I'm getting the Switch 2. I wouldn't even buy a Neptunia game on a Playstation let alone a Nintendo console. Neptunia games belong on PC where you can bypass sh*tty censorship with custom patches and fill them with nsfw mods.
Ah shit nintendo america ruined fanservice games.
We are waiting for the reviews and inboxing videos
The Switch has no games, and this didn't help.
So Neptunia swimsuits are not ok but naked lolis in Nekopara are fine... make it make sense
Uooh what!!!?
@@Alfenium subbed cause based
As far as I know, all console releases of Nekopara use the censored release of it. Any exception would involve homebrewing your console.
@@SoverineSR They still include a few scenes with nudity even on console
They are noticing more now and are getting stricter.
Like how Nekopara 5 likely won't make it on Steam since it'll finally have the Shigure romance.
Or Nekoworks knows that Steam, Sony and Nintendo are more strict now and will do things differently in order to get passed their censorship.
Self-censorship like not having the romance for her or having a timeskip first before the spicy stuff for her happens.
Steam is a good example of this because sometimes games truly do fly under the radar depending on their genre or because they aren't in English.
And some sneak passed by having patches on their obscure foreign websites.
It could simply be that they know Neptunia games are more accessible to a broader audience.
The fact that they have actual gameplay and aren't of the visual novel niche could have been what tipped the scales.
sloptendo at it again with the garbage ports, sell your switch and get a steam deck like a decent human being
@@anonymist-n8z cope harder
@@kidrobot. what am i coping about, tourist? gonna project more?
Its not Nintendo... but new policies to rating system that have been added. Nintendo is just intentionally talking the blow for the publishers like they have always done in the past. Its easier for them to take the blow of angry fans than the publisher/studios of smaller companies.
We don't know what it is exactly. The ratings board theory is speculation just like nintendo not allowing it.
But why does it affect PlayStation and Nintendo differently? Something here doesn't add up.
@xtranathor8143 because both Nintendo and Idea Factory are Japanese base companies. Their games go through the rating system first there. Most likely there is now conflict in Japan with the rating system changes and now definition and Nintendo guidelines.
@@xtranathor8143 People will target the big bad in the room without looking at the underlying details at what's happening around them. Compile hearts most likely doesn't want to change the game rating in Japan for it's game due to the adverse effects it will have just to get the game on Nintendo. Nintendo is not going to make an exception for it's policies just for one game because that would mean they are cherry picking and that would look bad on them. Especially since they just released games with way more fan service last week and last month but we're rates differently
@@xtranathor8143 Nintendo intentionally allowed this message to pit them as the bad guy in this situation so they can take the heat for this issue. Other wise (especially in Japan) you don't put the blame of an issue on someone above you that you're doing business with. (They probably told them what to write)
Everyone who cares this much needs to go outside lmao
I agree with Nintendo, we don't need this smut on Nintendo. Shame on PlayStation.
meanwhile the hentai games on the eshop:🗿
Let me guess, you never went to a beach or public pool in your life? These swimsuits are tamed ding dong.
lmao i imagine a soy jak in mario pajamas with his nintendo clock in his bedroom typing that