Not sure why you would want to used a narrow pot on this stove. The large diameter burner is best for wide pots. Most of the heat would just go around the sides of a narrow pot. Best to use it as designed.
Ernie- You continue to work hard for us in a methodical way. We appreciate it. You are doing the homework and offering us the perspective that assists us with our potential purchases. Thank you. -C
I’ll stick with Trangia, I can store unused fuel, fits inside other stoves like Firebox which I always bring, just in case I run out of fuel I can burn sticks since I camp for long periods of time. Bigger capacity is nice but not so when you have to return unused fuel back to original container, if I need more cooking time I have more than one Trangia and I can just swap. Personally I don’t see any advantage except that it looks cool. Thanks for the video.
Watched a few of your videos since I started researching alcohol stoves (last week as now "they" have reported that (in my country) they can't guarantee that there won't be blackouts). All these simple types while easy to carry they also seems very inefficient - others says that too without putting numbers on it. 5 fluid oz ~= 147 mL (milliliter) lasting 45 minutes. I ended up buying a German HPV Salsa - one or I believe the only modern quality alcohol stove with "active" gassifier. That one has 400 mL (0.4 L) of fuel for 2 hours of continous use. For fun I've boiled quite a few cups of tea using way too much water each time - still on the first filling despite also required quite a bit just for priming it (cold starting).
Just a thought here but I think the stove is a bit of a hidden gem. I imagine this isn't original thinking on my part but haven't seen or read this. If it's 'out there', please accept my apology. As supplied, the stand seems to be made for fairly wide pots, certainly over 4 inches to be stable, and for only liquid fuel BUT - BUT - BUT..... I turned the stand upside down over the stove and a 350mm Camperig style cup fits perfectly, with the height from the jets being spot on. One ounce of meths boiled a full cup (actually 300mm) without a windshield and when outside at a lochside in a light breeze. I then removed the stove, left the stand upside down and dropped the lid in. It fits perfectly inside. I was then able to use it 'as is' as a gel fuel stove although it would also work well with hexamine and gel fuel tablets, heating a pot big enough to span the three stand arms. When I put a cross stand on the lid, I was then able to use it as a gel fuel stove, again to boil water in my 350mm cup and the height from jets to bottom of the pot was again spot on, the same as from jets to the stand arms. I would think that none of this was accidental.
I bought one of those stoves decades ago. It's a pretty cool design, and with a few mods it could prove to be an excellent stove. The support stand is constructed from round stock or bent rods, and offers minimal contact with the underside of whatever cookware is used, and things just want to slide right off those polished, round supports. So, the first mod I'd recommend is to grind or file flat the top portion of the pot stand, so as to level the support and increase the surface area coming in contact with the cookware. Just to be safe, I wouldn't flatten it past 3/8 of the diameter of the pot supports. There are notches on the ends of those supports but they don't prevent slippage as is, so go ahead and flatten past those and re-notch with a Dremel or file afterward. Ideally, the end result should be a flat support surface that articulates better with the flat bottom of the cookware. Another mod I always wanted to try with the stove is to crimp terminal ring connectors (the kind used for wiring) on the ends of the support arms and slide some titanium or steel rods through the rings and stake them into the ground to stabilize the entire stove assembly during use.
I got a nearly identical stove about 35 years ago. All steel so weighs in at 300g. The stand however has completely flat legs and tops and they opperate independently. It is an epic stove and I still use it for camping trips where weight is not an issue.
I bought one of these stoves a couple of months ago, and I like it a lot. It holds enough fuel to permit me to cook a little longer between refueling, and it can be modified with a (sort of) simmer ring. Great little stove, but I wish the lid screwed down to secure the fuel when moving about! Thanks for sharing. :-)
I am a hard core Trangia Spirit Burner with my Solo lite. BTW, I am an RN in a positive clinic and my hair is turning gray as well. I call it "Crazy Covid Gray" and I am going to embrace it! I plan to grow out two long gray Willie N braids. Thank you for this channel and all that you do!
I have some thoughts on the pot support angles. First, by way of background I’ve had a similar stove since 1995. It was sold by sportsman’s guide under the name ‘safesport’. Later I picked one up under the ‘stansport’ name. Both of these older models had straight pot supports... but the legs did not lock. My thought is that in order to pull the legs down to lock them... the angle was needed. When used with a larger diameter pot, the legs might well be more stable. On mine, I found that if it was filled to the brim, it’d take forever to bloom. I paired mine with an msr foil windscreen.
Hi Doc! I bought this stove a while back. I was practicing with combining my Ohuhu wood stove with alc. burners, and put this thing in my woodstove, fueled with denatured alcohol. DON'T DO IT! The stove went ballistic, even shooting fire out of the crimp between the outer s.s. body and the aluminun core. Also, the jet holes burned as if they were equiped with afterburners! Scared the Bajeesus out of me! The gassifier ports on the Ohuhu were blowing flames as well. This combination caused a dangerous temp condition that this stove was not designed for. I retested with 70% isopropyl and it wasn't so violent, but I'll never use it. This stove alone boiles a cup of water in less than 2.5 minutes.
Yeah I just tested mine. 2-3 foot flames felt like campfire or bonfire heat. I used 99% alcohol. Might use 70% next time to see if that keep temp down. Yeah my test booked water in around 2 minutes. Dangerous.
Will this stove fit inside a moderate size cooking pot? If so, you can nest it in the pot, and then it's not any bulkier than the pot. I think by flattening the stand arms you place the pot closer to the flame, which can affect boil time. Next time, do the test first, then do the mod. Good video.Enjoyed it.
Wow i used that ( or one like it ) 19 years ago. Got ut from sportsman guide for about $15.00. Liked it but no wst control the burner for simmer. Used it for a couple trips backpacking in the smokies. Had to go back to my trusted Trangia.
Always love the stove Reviews, they never get old. ,as always Ernie great Job.Sincerely your freind from Mo Rick and God bless you and your family and are Great Country
Was reading a review elsewhere which suggested inverting the pot stand over the burner, ie the angled pot stand holder become the feet and the base should hold a small mug. Haven't tried it but assuming the stove fits 'upside down' can't see why it wouldn't work.
You can use a flat sink screen to make it support small cups and pots. I have that same stove and thats what I did. No mods needed. It sits perfectly between the legs at the curve
Ive several types , but my pathfinder hold a good bit of fuel ive boiled water by the gallon, sometimes get 3 boils out of 1 full up , but my thing is inclosed has air holes in the door , a chimney through the water tank , i got a Trangia knock off from Arizona, has a round sroud ,3 fold out legs 3 fold out on top for the correct head space, my moka pot is a little too small around but will work , zebra pots and pathfinder pot work wonderfully
An issue we have here in the UK is that we often have to cook in our tents due to our unpredictable weather! I know that's against all the advice but with experience it can be done safely. The only stove i will use for this is the fully enclosed Trangia 27 (25 if I'm with company). Even then I will use it with a gas conversion which has a much hotter but better contained flame pattern so i don't melt my expensive tent. If I am cooking outdoors and I know it's going to be fine for my whole trip, I will take the alcohol burner and also use fires to cook on where possible. Just my thoughts!
Thank you for this very balanced review, highlighting the pros and cons of the stove. Thanks also for the suggested DIY fix. As someone else has already commented, you are fast becoming the new Hiram Cook of TH-cam. Keep up the excellent stove tests, please.
I have one and use it when car camping at cabins. It's great for the wider bottom pots , I keep mine in a Stainless Steel MSR Alpine Stowaway pot. Backpacking I use a Evernew Titanium alcohol stove in a Titanium Firebox Nano gen 2 stove. Or a Evernew Appalachian Titanium set depending on where I'm going.
Like others I'll stick with the Trangia however... if I need more burn time, I grab my Pathfinder Alcohol Stove which is essentially a Trangia copy in stainless steel with more capacity. ($22 on sale at the time of this post.) For the first burn, Self Reliance Outfitters recommends filling the stove completely full, putting a little fuel in the over flow on top, light it and let it burn completely. I did this and my stove works very well. YMMV
I bought the original back in 1998 in Alaska as a "Pilot's Survival Stove". The only difference is the mine is all stainless and probably takes longer to bloom.
I believe that the bottom leg should have stayed the same except they all should have been turned 90° to the right The top legs should have bent flat so you could put a pot on them and with the 90° angle of the legs it would fold in to the diameter of the stove it would fold out for stability and little bitty pots and if you ran it 90° the other way it would fold out for a wider pots and stability also I really thought it was a nice stand to hold that burner
When you put the flame out @5:40, the wick between the layers could have stayed saturated. In operation this would end up being wasted, as it would eventually evaporate without a sealed top. For a burn time, It might be more accurate to let it burn out. Then add a measured amount of fuel. A DIY stove can hold as much fuel as you like.
About 4 years ago I bought a stove just ilke this one with the only difference that the stands aren’t spring loaded. It was branded the “Simon Stove”. Guess mine’s main compartment is a touch higher and standing legs are straight. Love to use it when I got plenty of time to stay out but prefer cannister stoves or woodstoves most of the time. Trangia isn’t available in my country sadly. But since you mention it in almost in every alcohol stove video, I am gradually getting more curious about it.
Im thinking to get this one but just for the stove. I dont bother about the stand. I Was thinking to add this to my cooking Set as an alternativ insert for my wood burning stove. To just put it in there when i cant have a smelly woodfire or cant be bothered to make a woodfire for example to cook a Coffee in the morning. Im messing out quite a lot of Coffee because of that :D
I find that I have hit a sweet spot on stoves with my Fancee Feest stove. Built in pot stand, great boil times, nests in my cook kit. My cook kit all packs into a Toaks 750ml pot, including my stove, a 450ml cup, lighter, 1 oz squirt bottle of alcohol, wind screen, small scrubbing sponge and square of bandana. I have not been able to find a more functional setup. I have had fun with wood stoves lately, and will likely add a Firebox Nano to the lineup soon, since it can be added to the pack with minimal footprint changes.
@McLost in The Woods, are you talking about an alcohol stove made from the Fancy Feast cat food can? Question, what size of cat food can do use use? Built in pot stand? New to the alcohol stove scene BUT it looks like the Dr. has a video for whatever is needed. BUT still interested in your setup, “EXCUSE ME, BUT IS THERE A DOCTOR IN THE errr GARAGE?!!”
@@strongbear9304 I used a homemade one like the doc's for a while, then bought one from Zelph's stoves online and it has been my mainstay for 2 years now. I made a video about it here: th-cam.com/video/eqUI43dEiHg/w-d-xo.html
Bought one of these years ago. Lack of windshield is a huge problem, no simmer ring, also the lack of a screw top. I never use it. I'll stick with my Trangia.
Had this stove and burner for a good while now. I use the burner in my twig stoves and also with a set of SS pot supports. The burner is great. The stove itself has been honorably retired to a big trash can. I suggest you do the same.
I would have done the exact same modification you made for the legs, Ernie. Makes zero sense for them to be angled in such a way on top. Maybe for the legs. Thanks for sharing all the details with us.
Thanks, Ernie - I was considering getting this stove but don't see any advantage over what I have. Nice stove and all but nothing that I need. At least right now.
Ernie,I just bought identical knockoff from china.prob the same manufacturer but 13$ instead of 20 from Amazon.Will add piece of felt carbon to absorb Heet,making it slosh_ less and also smoothing out flame as has so much oxygen in its yellow baldspot when in wind.A gas resistant piece of thinner rubber covering stove,banded down for leakproof,with bands holding cover down foi insurance..First cover on stove,under cap.If it works,I'll let u know.Thnx!
Nice stove, threw out loads of heat but when I had finished boiling the kettle the snuffing cap did not put the side jets out completely the only way I could think of to extinguish the flame was to pour water into the central cavity which had relit so the bioethanol I was using became diluted and under proof. Is this a general fault or do I have a bad burner? Otherwise brilliant for boiling water in a kettle quickly.
Got one a couple of months ago. If you come up with a better stand, please post. Got it when I ordered my Redcamp (Trangia knockoff). These are my first ‘store bought’ alcohol stoves. I have been making diy ones for years and have a few I really like. Your vids remind me of the old Hiram Cook ones.
Had one by Out-D for 6 or 7 yrs. They cook faster then the Trangia and the Pathfinder Stainless Steel stove . The path finder was some what of a disappointment burn with a yellow flame, went back o the Out-D which was much cheaper may get another one.
I have been using that Chinese alcohol stove for forty years, also using the stand without the alcohol stove direct in a small woodfire the angle of the three legs is flat (90 degrees) perhaps you bought a bad US copy of the original Chinese one
I bought four of the Lixada stoves while browsing Amazon and love them except one, the one you are presenting. For some reason I do not like the pot supports and the "feet" and the burner doesn't fare well against the Trangia stove. One of the Lixada stoves has an additional tray that will accommodate the Trangia when I prefer to use alcohol versus burning wood; in stealth camping I do not burn wood as smoke will give away my position or there's a fire ban. I really need to stop browsing Amazon as I buy things on impulse. I have returned several items and so far haven't incurred any penalties from Amazon except I'm banned for providing a very critical, not so nice, review.
I would like to know why the trangia is the only one you like when the copycats like red camp provides the same and it doesn’t even have a handle on the simmering cap? I am in the market to buy an alcohol stove and I am confused. Please help!
It's not particularly light. It doesn't support smaller pots well. Being alcohol, it's not particularly efficient. It's not as good as a Trangia. But if you're car camping?😄 That has to be nicest rejection I ever heard.😄👍
Hi. Great video. Please could you take a look at the pathfinder alcohol stove - particularly the ease of lighting when only 1/3 or 1/4 full. The big selling point of this stove is it's fuel capacity, however on a multi day trip I have had to relight it multiple times before I can get it to stay lit and eventually bloom. It doesn't seen to get going unless there is a decent breeze or you keep gently blowing until enough heat is generated. I have left comments with Pathfinder but never had a response.
@@PaleoHikerMD thanks for the reply. If you have one I'd still appreciate a review - might help others and prevent making bad purchasing decisions. Thanks for reading.
Got a knockoff,13.99 USD,Famgee.Exacrly same as Lixada.Dont change anything,works great,especially longer cooks.Filled with carbon felt,ran 1 hr.,5 minutes.
I own this stove and I love it, very compact, I paid $13, and for the price, you can keep your transgender or whatever, Trangia. I love redcamp stoves. most bang for the buck!!!
Take a heavy coat hanger cut 3 or 4 pieces to the length you want, put a 90 degree bend in one end, stick them in the ground around a cat can stove or penny stove or beer can stove, deep enough to hold the weight of pan and water and get cooking. Light weight, easy to make, easy to carry. Easy to replace, can use with multiple stoves or pots and can vary height from flame to mimick a simmer ring or low heat.;-)
Ernie, I believe that someone beat you to it: th-cam.com/video/okH8H7-2ZsI/w-d-xo.html Very similar if not identical. I'm a huge Hiram Cook fan. Lots of alcohol and wood stove tests. Too heavy for long distance hiking, ok for weekend hikes or canoe camping, for people wanting to minimize their carbon footprint by using renewable, non-petroleum fuels. Trangia is a better choice, because it can also transport the fuel, if that's really a big deal. I find that an alcohol stove is most efficient when filled with just enough fuel for the amount cooking time needed. I presume that's because it takes less time and heat to vaporize a smaller amount of fuel. Refuling an alcohol stove when it runs out isn't a big deal - unless it's not REALLY out! With my Supercat stove it's easy to tell. Link: th-cam.com/video/ZuZ0u75_0bw/w-d-xo.html I have been hiking over 1,000 miles of section hikes on the AT with this stove. Nothing lighter that I know of. No pot stand needed. By using a reflector (I call it my anti-scorch pad), an Evernew 1.3 liter titanium pot, and a titanium windscreen from Backpacking Light which rolls up to the size of a pencil stub, and sleeping with my fuel and water, I consistently beat Hiram Cook's test times.
My honest review of this burner ?? Burns too hot. Way Too Hot. Mine had a 2-3 foot Flame going. Felt the heat 2+ feet away like a camp fire. Used 99% Alcohol. Great to start wet wood burning maybe for a camp fire. Not great cooking food or boiling water purposes. Fire hazard.
This looks like a Spill Disaster waiting to happen. I can't imagine why anyone would pay full price for a stove, that they would the need to spend time modifying, so it would function somewhat properly! Two thumbs down on this one!
Not sure why you would want to used a narrow pot on this stove. The large diameter burner is best for wide pots. Most of the heat would just go around the sides of a narrow pot. Best to use it as designed.
Ernie- You continue to work hard for us in a methodical way. We appreciate it. You are doing the homework and offering us the perspective that assists us with our potential purchases. Thank you. -C
I’ll stick with Trangia, I can store unused fuel, fits inside other stoves like Firebox which I always bring, just in case I run out of fuel I can burn sticks since I camp for long periods of time. Bigger capacity is nice but not so when you have to return unused fuel back to original container, if I need more cooking time I have more than one Trangia and I can just swap. Personally I don’t see any advantage except that it looks cool. Thanks for the video.
I agree with you. My experience with a transgia and a wood stove are the same.
Watched a few of your videos since I started researching alcohol stoves (last week as now "they" have reported that (in my country) they can't guarantee that there won't be blackouts). All these simple types while easy to carry they also seems very inefficient - others says that too without putting numbers on it. 5 fluid oz ~= 147 mL (milliliter) lasting 45 minutes. I ended up buying a German HPV Salsa - one or I believe the only modern quality alcohol stove with "active" gassifier. That one has 400 mL (0.4 L) of fuel for 2 hours of continous use. For fun I've boiled quite a few cups of tea using way too much water each time - still on the first filling despite also required quite a bit just for priming it (cold starting).
Have 2 of these stoves for the past 30 years, always carry 1 as backup to utilize at camper site.
Just a thought here but I think the stove is a bit of a hidden gem. I imagine this isn't original thinking on my part but haven't seen or read this. If it's 'out there', please accept my apology. As supplied, the stand seems to be made for fairly wide pots, certainly over 4 inches to be stable, and for only liquid fuel BUT - BUT - BUT..... I turned the stand upside down over the stove and a 350mm Camperig style cup fits perfectly, with the height from the jets being spot on. One ounce of meths boiled a full cup (actually 300mm) without a windshield and when outside at a lochside in a light breeze. I then removed the stove, left the stand upside down and dropped the lid in. It fits perfectly inside. I was then able to use it 'as is' as a gel fuel stove although it would also work well with hexamine and gel fuel tablets, heating a pot big enough to span the three stand arms. When I put a cross stand on the lid, I was then able to use it as a gel fuel stove, again to boil water in my 350mm cup and the height from jets to bottom of the pot was again spot on, the same as from jets to the stand arms. I would think that none of this was accidental.
Already using this stove ( With a wind shield ) for over 40 year love it
I bought one of those stoves decades ago. It's a pretty cool design, and with a few mods it could prove to be an excellent stove. The support stand is constructed from round stock or bent rods, and offers minimal contact with the underside of whatever cookware is used, and things just want to slide right off those polished, round supports.
So, the first mod I'd recommend is to grind or file flat the top portion of the pot stand, so as to level the support and increase the surface area coming in contact with the cookware. Just to be safe, I wouldn't flatten it past 3/8 of the diameter of the pot supports. There are notches on the ends of those supports but they don't prevent slippage as is, so go ahead and flatten past those and re-notch with a Dremel or file afterward. Ideally, the end result should be a flat support surface that articulates better with the flat bottom of the cookware.
Another mod I always wanted to try with the stove is to crimp terminal ring connectors (the kind used for wiring) on the ends of the support arms and slide some titanium or steel rods through the rings and stake them into the ground to stabilize the entire stove assembly during use.
Erinie, you could have adjusted the lower supports alone and left the pot supports angled, giving the stove the original high offset.
I got a nearly identical stove about 35 years ago. All steel so weighs in at 300g. The stand however has completely flat legs and tops and they opperate independently. It is an epic stove and I still use it for camping trips where weight is not an issue.
It’s a cool looking stove, I got one for my collection but I have no intention of using it in the field.
Does your wife ask ' Why do you need so many stoves - you can only use one?' Mine does LOL
I bought one of these stoves a couple of months ago, and I like it a lot. It holds enough fuel to permit me to cook a little longer between refueling, and it can be modified with a (sort of) simmer ring. Great little stove, but I wish the lid screwed down to secure the fuel when moving about! Thanks for sharing. :-)
I am a hard core Trangia Spirit Burner with my Solo lite. BTW, I am an RN in a positive clinic and my hair is turning gray as well. I call it "Crazy Covid Gray" and I am going to embrace it! I plan to grow out two long gray Willie N braids. Thank you for this channel and all that you do!
Been using it for years, love it, Tip a S39 (solder fluid) bottle fits exact in it for storing alcohol.
My favourite combo is Trangia burner with a FireBox 🔥Nano.
I have some thoughts on the pot support angles. First, by way of background I’ve had a similar stove since 1995. It was sold by sportsman’s guide under the name ‘safesport’. Later I picked one up under the ‘stansport’ name. Both of these older models had straight pot supports... but the legs did not lock. My thought is that in order to pull the legs down to lock them... the angle was needed. When used with a larger diameter pot, the legs might well be more stable. On mine, I found that if it was filled to the brim, it’d take forever to bloom.
I paired mine with an msr foil windscreen.
Hi Doc! I bought this stove a while back.
I was practicing with combining my Ohuhu wood stove with alc. burners, and
put this thing in my woodstove, fueled with denatured alcohol. DON'T DO IT!
The stove went ballistic, even shooting fire out of the crimp between the outer s.s. body and the aluminun core. Also, the jet holes burned as if they were equiped with afterburners! Scared the Bajeesus out of me! The gassifier ports on the Ohuhu were blowing flames as well. This combination caused a dangerous temp condition that this stove was not designed for.
I retested with 70% isopropyl and it wasn't so violent, but I'll never use it.
This stove alone boiles a cup of water in less than 2.5 minutes.
Yeah I just tested mine. 2-3 foot flames felt like campfire or bonfire heat. I used 99% alcohol.
Might use 70% next time to see if that keep temp down.
Yeah my test booked water in around 2 minutes. Dangerous.
Will this stove fit inside a moderate size cooking pot? If so, you can nest it in the pot, and then it's not any bulkier than the pot. I think by flattening the stand arms you place the pot closer to the flame, which can affect boil time. Next time, do the test first, then do the mod. Good video.Enjoyed it.
You’re so helpful and quantitative. Thanks.
Wow i used that ( or one like it ) 19 years ago. Got ut from sportsman guide for about $15.00. Liked it but no wst control the burner for simmer. Used it for a couple trips backpacking in the smokies. Had to go back to my trusted Trangia.
Instead of having the legs in or out, try half way. That's how I use mine and I find that suits me fine.
I’ve got this stove & I use it with a big frying pan & once you get used to the stand out works great & isn’t as unstable as it seems at first.
Always love the stove Reviews, they never get old. ,as always Ernie great Job.Sincerely your freind from Mo Rick and God bless you and your family and are Great Country
Was reading a review elsewhere which suggested inverting the pot stand over the burner, ie the angled pot stand holder become the feet and the base should hold a small mug. Haven't tried it but assuming the stove fits 'upside down' can't see why it wouldn't work.
Bought this stove out of curiosity in 83, came in a black zippered vinyl case .
You can use a flat sink screen to make it support small cups and pots. I have that same stove and thats what I did. No mods needed. It sits perfectly between the legs at the curve
What is that?
I'd have to send u a photo of what I'm talking about
Ive several types , but my pathfinder hold a good bit of fuel ive boiled water by the gallon, sometimes get 3 boils out of 1 full up , but my thing is inclosed has air holes in the door , a chimney through the water tank , i got a Trangia knock off from Arizona, has a round sroud ,3 fold out legs 3 fold out on top for the correct head space, my moka pot is a little too small around but will work , zebra pots and pathfinder pot work wonderfully
Just brought one and wait for delivery 🎉
Wish you’d have tested/told if you could use it without stand. It reminded me of the awesome White Box Stove.
An issue we have here in the UK is that we often have to cook in our tents due to our unpredictable weather! I know that's against all the advice but with experience it can be done safely. The only stove i will use for this is the fully enclosed Trangia 27 (25 if I'm with company). Even then I will use it with a gas conversion which has a much hotter but better contained flame pattern so i don't melt my expensive tent. If I am cooking outdoors and I know it's going to be fine for my whole trip, I will take the alcohol burner and also use fires to cook on where possible. Just my thoughts!
For the alcohol burner,have you tried the carbon felt hack?Smoothes out the yellow spot in middle by slowing free flow oxygen,much more solid blue
Thank you for this very balanced review, highlighting the pros and cons of the stove. Thanks also for the suggested DIY fix. As someone else has already commented, you are fast becoming the new Hiram Cook of TH-cam. Keep up the excellent stove tests, please.
Not to be confused with Hiram Abiff!
My Simon stove like this is about 30 years old now. It doesn’t have the upward bend on the stand legs/pot supports.
Yay on the shelf .. better ones
I really enjoy your content and appreciate your reviews!
I would really like to see you review the emberlit stoves made in USA
I have one and use it when car camping at cabins. It's great for the wider bottom pots , I keep mine in a Stainless Steel MSR Alpine Stowaway pot. Backpacking I use a Evernew Titanium alcohol stove in a Titanium Firebox Nano gen 2 stove. Or a Evernew Appalachian Titanium set depending on where I'm going.
Like others I'll stick with the Trangia however... if I need more burn time, I grab my Pathfinder Alcohol Stove which is essentially a Trangia copy in stainless steel with more capacity. ($22 on sale at the time of this post.) For the first burn, Self Reliance Outfitters recommends filling the stove completely full, putting a little fuel in the over flow on top, light it and let it burn completely. I did this and my stove works very well. YMMV
Just thought I would let you know we all miss you. Hope you get back on soon.
Looking forward to my new stove
I bought the original back in 1998 in Alaska as a "Pilot's Survival Stove". The only difference is the mine is all stainless and probably takes longer to bloom.
I believe that the bottom leg should have stayed the same except they all should have been turned 90° to the right The top legs should have bent flat so you could put a pot on them and with the 90° angle of the legs it would fold in to the diameter of the stove it would fold out for stability and little bitty pots and if you ran it 90° the other way it would fold out for a wider pots and stability also I really thought it was a nice stand to hold that burner
When you put the flame out @5:40, the wick between the layers could have stayed saturated. In operation this would end up being wasted, as it would eventually evaporate without a sealed top. For a burn time, It might be more accurate to let it burn out. Then add a measured amount of fuel. A DIY stove can hold as much fuel as you like.
About 4 years ago I bought a stove just ilke this one with the only difference that the stands aren’t spring loaded. It was branded the “Simon Stove”. Guess mine’s main compartment is a touch higher and standing legs are straight. Love to use it when I got plenty of time to stay out but prefer cannister stoves or woodstoves most of the time. Trangia isn’t available in my country sadly. But since you mention it in almost in every alcohol stove video, I am gradually getting more curious about it.
Im thinking to get this one but just for the stove. I dont bother about the stand. I Was thinking to add this to my cooking Set as an alternativ insert for my wood burning stove. To just put it in there when i cant have a smelly woodfire or cant be bothered to make a woodfire for example to cook a Coffee in the morning. Im messing out quite a lot of Coffee because of that :D
I find that I have hit a sweet spot on stoves with my Fancee Feest stove. Built in pot stand, great boil times, nests in my cook kit. My cook kit all packs into a Toaks 750ml pot, including my stove, a 450ml cup, lighter, 1 oz squirt bottle of alcohol, wind screen, small scrubbing sponge and square of bandana. I have not been able to find a more functional setup. I have had fun with wood stoves lately, and will likely add a Firebox Nano to the lineup soon, since it can be added to the pack with minimal footprint changes.
@McLost in The Woods, are you talking about an alcohol stove made from the Fancy Feast cat food can? Question, what size of cat food can do use use? Built in pot stand? New to the alcohol stove scene BUT it looks like the Dr. has a video for whatever is needed. BUT still interested in your setup, “EXCUSE ME, BUT IS THERE A DOCTOR IN THE errr GARAGE?!!”
@@strongbear9304 I used a homemade one like the doc's for a while, then bought one from Zelph's stoves online and it has been my mainstay for 2 years now.
I made a video about it here: th-cam.com/video/eqUI43dEiHg/w-d-xo.html
Bought one of these years ago. Lack of windshield is a huge problem, no simmer ring, also the lack of a screw top. I never use it. I'll stick with my Trangia.
Had this stove and burner for a good while now. I use the burner in my twig stoves and also with a set of SS pot supports. The burner is great. The stove itself has been honorably retired to a big trash can. I suggest you do the same.
I would have done the exact same modification you made for the legs, Ernie. Makes zero sense for them to be angled in such a way on top. Maybe for the legs. Thanks for sharing all the details with us.
I believe the small upward angle will resist sliding - so some sense 😉
Thanks, Ernie - I was considering getting this stove but don't see any advantage over what I have. Nice stove and all but nothing that I need. At least right now.
Ernie,I just bought identical knockoff from china.prob the same manufacturer but 13$ instead of 20 from Amazon.Will add piece of felt carbon to absorb Heet,making it slosh_ less and also smoothing out flame as has so much oxygen in its yellow baldspot when in wind.A gas resistant piece of thinner rubber covering stove,banded down for leakproof,with bands holding cover down foi insurance..First cover on stove,under cap.If it works,I'll let u know.Thnx!
I use a small bush grill for smaller pots on my Alocs stand, I use it with different stoves. It doesn’t seem to act like a heat sink too bad.
Thank-you Ernie, loved the crickets!
Nice stove, threw out loads of heat but when I had finished boiling the kettle the snuffing cap did not put the side jets out completely the only way I could think of to extinguish the flame was to pour water into the central cavity which had relit so the bioethanol I was using became diluted and under proof. Is this a general fault or do I have a bad burner? Otherwise brilliant for boiling water in a kettle quickly.
In my mind’s eye the bend top only sounds best. I however make no claims to a mind of greatness haha.
The reservoir and burner part looks pretty good. It's robust stainless-steel exterior with lightweight aluminum inside. The stand is bad. Bad bad.
That was fun to watch the promise. Cool stove. Thanks Ernie!
Got one a couple of months ago. If you come up with a better stand, please post. Got it when I ordered my Redcamp (Trangia knockoff). These are my first ‘store bought’ alcohol stoves. I have been making diy ones for years and have a few I really like. Your vids remind me of the old Hiram Cook ones.
Interesting…It reminds me of an imperfect rendition of a Tetkoba stove and stand. Thank you for the video.
Why not put two flat pieces of steel or some such on each end, place in the vise, and gently squeeze until flat?
I think you just experienced what is know as "premature modification".
Seems to me a little hardware cloth would work well for a smaller pot
Yeah, that 1"-1 1/4" height above the jets with alcohol stoves is an issue for consistent efficient burn times.
Thanks Ernie. As always, you're exhaustive.
Ernie, I'm curious if you could use the burner alone as a sit-on-top stove. ??🤔
Not as a sit on top, you will need some kind of stand
Had one by Out-D for 6 or 7 yrs. They cook faster then the Trangia and the Pathfinder Stainless Steel stove . The path finder was some what of a disappointment burn with a yellow flame, went back o the Out-D which was much cheaper may get another one.
How does it work and fit in the firebox Nano?
I have been using that Chinese alcohol stove for forty years, also using the stand without the alcohol stove direct in a small woodfire the angle of the three legs is flat (90 degrees) perhaps you bought a bad US copy of the original Chinese one
They've had this on sale for a while... good price.
-b
Pair of vice grips and a pair of pliers along with a torch would have done it
straighten the bottoms and cut them off shorter so they can stick in the soil?
Hi all . i have this stove and it is good, but if you prefer your trangia it does fit inside this frame
I am surprised you don't have a brasslite stove..or my search of this site didn't bring it up.
Pair it with your Simple Theory Pack Stove.
I'll stick with my Trangia, though I like the idea of innovation with the new one.
I bought four of the Lixada stoves while browsing Amazon and love them except one, the one you are presenting. For some reason I do not like the pot supports and the "feet" and the burner doesn't fare well against the Trangia stove. One of the Lixada stoves has an additional tray that will accommodate the Trangia when I prefer to use alcohol versus burning wood; in stealth camping I do not burn wood as smoke will give away my position or there's a fire ban. I really need to stop browsing Amazon as I buy things on impulse. I have returned several items and so far haven't incurred any penalties from Amazon except I'm banned for providing a very critical, not so nice, review.
I would like to know why the trangia is the only one you like when the copycats like red camp provides the same and it doesn’t even have a handle on the simmering cap? I am in the market to buy an alcohol stove and I am confused. Please help!
It's not particularly light. It doesn't support smaller pots well. Being alcohol, it's not particularly efficient. It's not as good as a Trangia. But if you're car camping?😄
That has to be nicest rejection I ever heard.😄👍
Hi. Great video. Please could you take a look at the pathfinder alcohol stove - particularly the ease of lighting when only 1/3 or 1/4 full. The big selling point of this stove is it's fuel capacity, however on a multi day trip I have had to relight it multiple times before I can get it to stay lit and eventually bloom. It doesn't seen to get going unless there is a decent breeze or you keep gently blowing until enough heat is generated. I have left comments with Pathfinder but never had a response.
I have one, and it has NEVER burned correctly for me. It will go out without warning etc. It's on the shelf...
@@PaleoHikerMD thanks for the reply. If you have one I'd still appreciate a review - might help others and prevent making bad purchasing decisions. Thanks for reading.
? By reducing the height of the pan from the top of the stove could that have effected the airflow and heat generated/time to boil?
Get the Famgee brand. It all sits flat. Same stove
There's no way I'm spending money on something I have to redesign and reshape myself.
Got a knockoff,13.99 USD,Famgee.Exacrly same as Lixada.Dont change anything,works great,especially longer cooks.Filled with carbon felt,ran 1 hr.,5 minutes.
Too unstable to use for me for cooking anything. Trangia tried and true.
Good video but its not wowwing me. A stove you have to work on before use ill pass. 6oz is impressive though
I think I found Hiram’s obituary.
I own this stove and I love it, very compact, I paid $13, and for the price, you can keep your transgender or whatever, Trangia. I love redcamp stoves. most bang for the buck!!!
Take a heavy coat hanger cut 3 or 4 pieces to the length you want, put a 90 degree bend in one end, stick them in the ground around a cat can stove or penny stove or beer can stove, deep enough to hold the weight of pan and water and get cooking. Light weight, easy to make, easy to carry. Easy to replace, can use with multiple stoves or pots and can vary height from flame to mimick a simmer ring or low heat.;-)
I bought this and the replaced this burner with a trangia knockoff in this stand
My wife just bought me one
Alcohol is expensive here over $20 a litre meths is the cheapest at $8
That's a lot of dicking around to make it into a useful stove!
Ernie, I believe that someone beat you to it:
th-cam.com/video/okH8H7-2ZsI/w-d-xo.html
Very similar if not identical.
I'm a huge Hiram Cook fan. Lots of alcohol and wood stove tests.
Too heavy for long distance hiking, ok for weekend hikes or canoe camping, for people wanting to minimize their carbon footprint by using renewable, non-petroleum fuels.
Trangia is a better choice, because it can also transport the fuel, if that's really a big deal. I find that an alcohol stove is most efficient when filled with just enough fuel for the amount cooking time needed. I presume that's because it takes less time and heat to vaporize a smaller amount of fuel. Refuling an alcohol stove when it runs out isn't a big deal - unless it's not REALLY out! With my Supercat stove it's easy to tell. Link: th-cam.com/video/ZuZ0u75_0bw/w-d-xo.html
I have been hiking over 1,000 miles of section hikes on the AT with this stove. Nothing lighter that I know of. No pot stand needed. By using a reflector (I call it my anti-scorch pad), an Evernew 1.3 liter titanium pot, and a titanium windscreen from Backpacking Light which rolls up to the size of a pencil stub, and sleeping with my fuel and water, I consistently beat Hiram Cook's test times.
Hi all this is a great alcohol stove love talking my one with me
Wish you would ignite the alcohol immediately after pouring. You seem to start chatting instead, so of course the burn times are inaccurate.
I straight up HATE those stands. You need a wide pot and i dont use those in my kit
Naah .. a Pretender. I'll stick to my Trangia.
My honest review of this burner ??
Burns too hot. Way Too Hot. Mine had a 2-3 foot Flame going. Felt the heat 2+ feet away like a camp fire.
Used 99% Alcohol.
Great to start wet wood burning maybe for a camp fire. Not great cooking food or boiling water purposes. Fire hazard.
Nope. I’m still with my Nano and Trangia.
Exactly what I bring. You just can’t go wrong.
Not a threat to Trangia.. May work out to be a good stove but has nothing like the scope or flex of a Trangia
This looks like a Spill Disaster waiting to happen.
I can't imagine why anyone would pay full price for a stove, that they would the need to spend time modifying, so it would function somewhat properly!
Two thumbs down on this one!
Thank you...
That things a chunk.
It's a nice stove..BUT..you cannot store fuel inside..no screw cap....not worth MY money