Please watch ENTIRE video! I think I have given the wrong idea that I’m bashing Luka in this. Towards the middle we start to talk about why it’s effective, and why teams should play more like this. The film at the beginning is to show why the argument is made that he isn’t fun to play with. I did change the title to seem more positive in case that was causing confusion!
@@Tophergr8 Yeah I guess I could have communicated better that this isn’t all they run, so thank you for that. The idea was to more so show why some might have the opinion that it’s boring to play with him. I will say though that they don’t run those actions as much as you think. They are in the bottom half of the league for those play call frequencies and #2 in isolation. They actually run isolations twice as often which is pretty wild. But as said in the video, what they do works so hey let em do it!!
@@_AVC_ problem with looking at stats, including how often they run certain actions, is that it lacks important context, such as how many games they have lost to injuries (affecting what kinds of actions they will run). Also, in two of your clips, you called what I perceived as ghost screens (the one where Derek Jones Jr goes to the 3-pt line, for example) as isos. Maybe that's how the NBA makes that determination, but it's misleading.
@@Tophergr8 I mean yeah analytics are like bikinis, they show a lot but not everything haha! Bad joke but you get the point. Injuries definitely affect what people run you’re totally right but that isn’t true with Dallas. Since Luka has joined the team those numbers are pretty consistent. Which I again will say is a good thing, it totally works and people should learn from it! Not sure exactly which clip you mean with the DJJ stuff, can you time stamp em for me? I don’t remember seeing a ghost screen. The one where he ends up on the top of the key 3 is the failed Spain action, but maybe that isn’t the one you mean?
If anymore teams run an offense like this Trust Me No one would be watching NBA period. Tell the truth and stop 🛑 eating your words you know this is the worse offense period. I don’t want any damn defense resting on my team because someone who is dribbling 22 seconds and forcing a shot and then don’t play any defense. You’re not a real coach if this is your thinking….it can’t be when you stated you harp on defense….wow
Considering the Mavs has been the top 3 most injured teams in the leauge or maybe it was the most injured, with pretty bad backup players with no big, I'd say he has been carrying the team pretty hard. With Gafford and P.J some easier matchups down the stretch I'm assuming a lot more wins with Luka being even more dangerous with passes and shots.
So true, they have had some pretty annoying injury luck. Dude has been wearing this team like a backpack, if he isn’t on the court they can’t win. I love the new roster additions and I completely agree I think they are gonna be really dangerous!
Damn you think so? From my NBA experience I never really thought there was anyone who thought that way but obviously I didn’t work with everyone. Why do you think this?
Every NBA player wants to win and play…right? Nobody work this hard to play with a teammate that only want to Stack Stats it doesn’t matter where they are from period.
I can see why this guy is a FORMER coach. One thing is obvious...he does not watch Luka on a nightly basis. He has picked out poor plays out of thousands....Mavs have had massive injuries (3,4 and even 5 starters plus) and Luka has had to carry the load. The future will show how wrong this guy is. I have literally watched EVERY full game Luka has played. This former coach has no clue Luka makes people better.
Hey I think I gave you the wrong idea, maybe you didn’t watch the whole vid or maybe I communicated poorly in the vid (certainly possible). I get to talking about how important Luka is to this team and how much the numbers back it. I think I say something at some point like is it my ideal play style no, but it’s clearly helping them win games. I think we just haven’t seen someone win a chip playing like this, but that doesn’t mean it can’t happen especially since it’s still a new concept and very very few players can carry like he can. The point of the film was more so to point out why it might be boring to play with him. As a player myself (not NBA but high level) I could see the point. Hopefully that clears it up! I appreciate your analysis, and please don’t tell Dallas you think I don’t watch much of them because they are my #1 league pass team this year 😅. The team I watch the least is my own Bulls…
@@_AVC_ yeah, but you cherry picked the vid clips. The Mavs run a lot more Spain and Horns than your analysis suggests. And a guy with hands on knees in the corner may have something to do with fatigue from having a shortened rotation because the team has been decimated with injuries, so you make "getting the wrong idea" very easy. Did you frequently bury the lead when you coached? Also, how many players come to the Mavs and have the best seasons of their careers? You're spinning a bullshit narrative. Video disliked.
@@Tophergr8 Yikes 😅. I think you didn’t watch the whole video but sorry to upset ya. The video’s purpose was to praise Luka and the fact that his play style leads to winning basketball. We also discuss what teams can take from this and learn from it. I addressed the P&R stuff in your other comment so hopefully that makes some sense. The point of the clips is to show why people are saying players might not like playing with him, sorry it came off as hateful though that wasn’t the intent. I do encourage you to watch the whole video though you might find we agree on some stuff. Appreciate the comments nonetheless!
@@_AVC_ I did. And you tempered what you said with basically, "but yeah, Luka's great," which doesn't do much for the narrative and hate he already gets from media, so I think you are overstating how much your last part of the video counters the bashing, but you do you. I won't engage anymore.
@@Tophergr8 Well damn sorry I guess 😅. I really don’t think I bashed him at any point but I’ll try to be more clear going forward. I always appreciate the feedback so thank you regardless! Looking forward to watching more Mavs games!
I think the last 3 games with the new additions and a healthy team is what the vision for this team is. And Luka has been passing much more. He's been getting his shot still, but he's been passing, having fun making some wild, crazy passes. There's also been a lot more movement involved with the team. December and January was just brutal b/c so many people were hurt. The team basically had to have Luka playing for 40+ minutes a night just to tread water. But I enjoyed the video!
Glad you liked it! Yeah one of the reasons I made this vid now is I want to do a follow up at the end of the year to see if there are any differences. Because you’re right this roster is more so where they want to be. They are so dominant since the deadline and I’ll be curious to see if they adapt their play style at all going forward! I’m willing to be its still gonna be extremely Luka iso oriented but like I said it’s working haha! The passing game is going crazy right now though for real, Gafford and Luka is a match made in heaven lol.
Yes Luka is playing better Team Ball 🏀 and I hope he Continues. I do see he is making the effort to not hold the ball so long and pass more helping getting the others involved. Kai is getting him to understand they need these guys every Night so when they make it to the playoffs they will be comfortable and READY period.
@@SoloLLC I actually plan on doing a comparison post trade deadline at the end of the year, I wanna compare the numbers to see if the play style changes at all. Could be really interesting!
@@_AVC_ I definitely agree and look forward to the outcome. I’m praying Luka can stay consistent with the current plan cause Dallas can be a Scary Opponent period. Take care.
Remember Steve nash and Dirk were the big stars in Dallas at one point, they still couldn't get another major superstar to play with them , and these are two MVP's. So should we be surprised that once again, Dallas is struggling to find the right piece for Luka🤔 Also, while I don't like to bring up race..... Is it a coincident that these three names are all white😮😮😮
I think it’s probably harder than ever to move stars in the NBA. It’s probably what the league wants as well, hard for people to be invested with people leaving all the time. I like Kyrie and Luka but I just don’t know if you can win a championship like this. Obviously they would love to have more wings and another ball handler I’m sure, but yeah it is an odd thing that keeps happening. I don’t know what the white guy thing means though 😂.
Ngl I didn’t wanna say it in the vid but I have to wonder if Kuzma was like “Nah no expectations here and I get all the shots. Imma just kick it in DC.” Obviously who knows but it’s certainly an interesting thought haha!
@@_AVC_ i mean from career choice and monetary value? Yeah he did quite smart calculated move. iTS COLD AND SHORTSIGHTED. Even for Brunsons case. There was his dad apparently main cog for transfer into Knicks. So yeah Both Brunsosn and Kyle chooses are to be understandable.
OK guys, this is really quite simple... I don't think it is really just a race thing. It's mainly a money thing. Take Kuzma for instance... if he came to the Mavs he knows he wouldn't be scoring 20 PPG. Luka would still get his 30 or more per and Kai his 25... Hardaway would get his 15 and you'd get another 20 or so between Lively and Gaff. The other guys like Green and PJ will get theirs too which really doesn't leave much for Kuzma. Sure, a couple of the others would be gone in the trade for Kuz, but he's a BMOC in DC and really wouldn't be in Dallas. Also, he knows that the Mavs need defenders, and he's already making bank in DC without having to do that. So basically, he decided probably correctly that he really wouldn't help the Mavs win, and he would rather just stay in DC and watch the $$$ flow to him without all that extra pressure. As Dirty Harry once said... "A man's got to know his limitations...". Kuzma knows his.
People can keep pushing this narrative players don't want to play with Luka while the Mavs continue to get stronger and stronger. As it is now I wouldn't want to face this Mavs squad in the playoffs. Goodluck with that.
I agree, see I wasn’t aware of this narrative until I saw the article. Thought it was an interesting topic at least Xs and Os wise to examine. This team is looking like a tough one to stop right now for sure!
I get it. I played in a rec league with a guy who held the ball the whole time. It's not fun. However, with Dallas's roster while Kyrie was out Luka's playstyle is their best option. The Mavs have showed when fully healthy they can play faster. With the new additions the Mavericks will be much more exciting and a tough out in the playoffs. I am only worried about a healthy Nuggets or Clippers team. And even now, I think the Mavs match up against them much better.
This comment perfectly sums up the video!! Might not be fun, but it sure works for them and they need to do it! New additions should make this a fun team, thank you for the great summary!
As a die hard Mavs fan: Luka is incredible but the style of play is partly due to Jason Kidd having no clue. Luka has constant green light and it's tough when the shot isn't falling. Also, most of our other players wilt on offense. It's more fun to watch the others when they're playing with Kyrie/Exum. We need a coach to unlock a less predictable offense.
@@_AVC_ Right now vs Boston: we were down two points and suddenly Kidd put a lineup of four guards and Kleber. Boston has KP and Horford out there. Tatum is taller than everyone but Maxi. The two point lead just became 14 for the Celtics. No Lively or Gafford during the entire this quarter. Kidd is awful. If there were a protest I would show up with a megaphone.
@@mrRambleGamble Hahaha I love that you came back to tell me this 😂. I have noticed he really loves playing Kleber over them. I like Kleber but not that much. I’m sorry for your suffering 😂.
This was an interesting topic to me so thank you for bringing it up! I don’t know how to see FIBA advanced stats so if you have some way please share! So I went and watched like 500 possessions from his last FIBA run (not a ton but eh time is of the essence haha). I would say it’s definitely not a significant time off ball, it’s definitely more than the NBA though. What’s interesting is that he scores/gets assists in the same ways that he does in the NBA. Which means his usage style is the same. Again, not a bad thing at all. I just don’t think we can call him an off ball player haha.
@@_AVC_I think he's talking more about pre-NBA Luka. In recent years Luka has been playing more like his NBA self in Slovenian national team games, but before he entered the NBA he played much more off-ball at Madrid and the Slovenian national team
@@AMINOMMA Ohhhh good point, yeah he would definitely be right then. They have much more of a respect the elders mentality in foreign ball. That’s why young studs don’t get as many minutes.
Well he needs to play off ball more. Dallas gets so many fast breaks when Luka doesn’t have the ball. People get to cut etc. this shit makes a difference in players like JG,Hardy and THJ - Kai gets so much PRODUCTION from these players than Luka period.
I think you're right in some areas. But what's being missed here is the issue on consistency and health. They have 200 minutes less played compared to BOS best 5. Jokic/Murray played 7+ years together before winning a championship. Jaylen and Tatum, too. I mean go ahead an compare the minutes played among the top teams in the NBA. The Mavs' best 5 has played one of the least games. Also, it'll be great to focus on the last 6 games where guys were fully healthy. You only showed the New York clip. But even on that game, 5 Mavs players scored in double figures. Here's his statline on that game: FG: 13-24 3-PT: 7-14 FT: 6-7 REB: 8 ASST: 11 STL: 4 BLK: 1 PER: +18 PTS: 39 So that's an all-around fantastic game if you ask me. Talk about the 'Luka Effect'. Derrick Jones Jr. average 9 points per game this season. On his last game VS New York, he got 18 points. That's the highest since Miami in 2019. Exum was playing in the Euroleague for 2 seasons. Now, he's a big contributor for the Mavs. Spencer Dinwiddie was considered a bust in Washington a season ago. His teammates hate him -- Kuzma especially. He got traded to Mavs and went to the WCF. Dorian Finney-Smith got the back after playing for Luka. And let's not forget, Kyrie chose to re-sign here. He could've said, "Trade me to the Lakers." Last season. During the OKC, WAS, and SAS games, many players were involved outside Luka -- mainly Kyrie, Josh Green, Maxi Kleber, and Gafford. So about the question whether Dallas can win while playing this way becomes irrelevant because now they have a much better talent and a deeper bench. Compare this roster to last season before the All-Star break: PG - Luka SG - Ntilikina SG - Josh Green SF - Bullock C - Powell Bench: C. Wood, J. McGee, M. Wright IV, T. Pinson, J. Hardy To put it into context. Bullock now plays 9 minutes for the rockets. Ntiilikina is MIA. And Powell is now a bench warmer. That's the quality of players Luka has to play with last season. Here's the roster now vs SAS before the All-Star Break: PG - Luka SG - Kyrie SG - Josh Green PF - PJ Washington C - Daniel Gafford Bench: DJJ, Lively, J. Hardy, Powell, T. Hardaway Jr. And then check out the box score. The points/rebounds/assistas were distributed well. Again, if anything, that's a lack of talent, cohesion, and injuries.
@@dexarceo821 This comment is actually awesome. We should talk some more hoops at some point! I think maybe I wasn’t clear enough in my vid, I apologize for that. I’ll touch on the injury thing first, I don’t think there is much of a correlation to who he plays with and his usage. I’m not denying this is a really good roster now I just don’t think it’s changing how he plays (which isn’t a bad thing). The point of the film was to show the how the offense works, it’s pretty basic but it works great for them. It’s more so to show it’s pretty boring for other players to play in. Which as a coach I don’t care about if it works haha which it does because he’s that good! I felt like I said in the video that Luka is clearly what makes the Mavericks work and that there is proof that it can work in the playoffs as well. The skepticism I have is solely based on we haven’t seen someone carry this usage to a championship. BUT few have tried and not many could actually hold that load, Luka seems to be able to. Apologies though I don’t know if that wasn’t clear enough in the vid, I thought I addressed that well in the on/off section but I’ll try to be more clear next time! Seriously though love the player analysis, I think it’s great. Hopefully I resolved any confusion I caused?
@@_AVC_ , Yeah no worries. It's great to have a discussion about bball. Just want to make a point about some things especially about how Luka plays. I think the idea about Luka's game being boring is kind of relative to who the player is. So in a vacuum, it's easy to say that they don't like playing with Luka. But if we dig deeper, there must be a bigger reason for that. For example, Kuzma would like to have a higher usage rate so he can command a bigger payday -- probably his last since he's already 28. Dinwiddie grew up in L.A. and can get more opportunities to display his talent for a larger contract next season. If he's in Dallas, he'll play behind Luka/Kyrie/Hardy/Green/Exum. Let's not forget about Jerami Grant. He left Denver and Jokic to be the man in Detroit! That doesn't mean hates playing with Jokic and Murray, right? And then you've got Gafford and PJ Washington who are so excited to play with him. Grant Williams before getting traded said it was easy playing for Luka. Seth Curry agreed to sign in Dallas -- he could've done so elsewhere. Kyrie didn't re-signed for a max contract. I heard rumors that Richaun Holmes took a pay cut to sign with the Mavs, too. I think Luka's high usage rate is more out of necessity. Kidd emphasized this when he said that Luka's better than Dirk. I feel like it's more of a slight dig to the F.O. more than Dirk, actually. It's his way of saying, "Give this man some help -- or you'll lose him." And what do you know? Weeks later, Nico traded Curry and Grant for PJ and Gafford. Now, they 48 minutes of solid center rotation plus athleticism, defense, and size. You'll also notice that Luka's more engaged on the defensive end since he knows there's a backline support (ie PJ/Maxi/Lively/Gafford). Also, let's not forget that Luka's only 24! Shai is older than him and yet many personalities are drooling over his 'potential.' Jordan haven't won anything until he was 28. Jokic was 28, too. Giannis was 26. LeBron was 27. So who's to say that this is Luka's final version? Can you imagine what he can do once he reaches his athletic prime? I mean, Brunson and Luka played together for 3 years -- then reached WCF. Who's to say, that after one more season of playing together, Josh, Lively, Gafford, PJ Washington, Omax Prosper, and Hardy finally figured out how to play with Luka? Remember, these players are all under 26 years old! Not in their athletic primes yet. So it's not like the Mavs' core don't have time to figure this one out.
@@dexarceo821 100% you are right! I think we are in complete agreement. In the video I wanted to just point out why some might think it’s boring, and I could see why. Obviously it’s subjective if they actually think that. The play style is definitely effective though, that’s why we talk about the on/off numbers in the back half of the video and discuss the importance of your best players having high usage rates. Yeah obviously the play style could change but in full honesty I don’t think it will but I don’t know that it needs to. The numbers say it works, and I think with the core they have now they fill a lot of the needs to run something like this. So yeah I think we are saying 95% the same thing haha.
@@_AVC_ , yeah. And with how many teams rely on analytics these days, Cuban being a big data guy himself, I wouldn't be surprised if they stick what's been working so far. I mean 3's are better than 2's any day. That being said, it's also important to note, that pace is also important. 2 quick twos are better than one contested 3 late in the shot clock. Plus, it's less wear and tear for Luka. And it all starts with controlling the glass -- which I think they solved with PJ and Gafford at the helm. So now they can cover more ground, close out on shooters quicker, and force tough shots. Also, let's remember that Luka never had teammate that can attack close outs than what PJ have done in the last 3 games. Not Maxi. Not DFS. And definitely not Grant Williams. My point is, this roster is evolving and so is Luka's playstyle. And while we'll keep on seeing Luka iso from time to time which should be a staple of the Mavs offense... ... don't be surprised if we start seeing PJ post-ups or a Kyrie/Gafford P n' R. We already seen a few Green/Gafford give n' go. Let's remember one thing: Nico has to put up with the shitty roster the previous has built over the last 5 years. This isn't a finish product.
Despite the title being quite the clickbait, the video is actually quite good. Lukas usage rate was a necessity for the Mavs because the team around Luka was absolutely terrible for most of his time in the NBA and i think the Mavs overachieved quite a bit since Luka is there with the exception of last season given the circumstances. Luka also plays off-ball quite a lot, especially in the post, usage rate does not represent at all if you play on or off ball, it just takes the final shot or turnover into account. It is amazing what Luka is able to do this season despite the Mavs having the worst injury luck in the League so far, Kyrie missing half of the season and actually long stretches where the Mavs were missing 6 out of their 8 best players. Now that everybody is healthy and after the great additions at the deadline, the mavs clearly look like the best offense in the league and a true contender. They are on a 6 game winning streak in dominant fashion and they have the 3rd easiest schedule from now on, if everybody is healthy, i would not be surprised if the Mavs are the 3rd seed in the west in the end.
Thank you for watching the whole video haha! I did just change the title to hopefully make it a little more clear so thank you for the feedback. Yeah it’s incredibly impressive what he does with the help he is given. It’s 100% clear that Luka makes the Mavs work. I agree that with the roster they have now I think they could really do some damage this season. I like the top 3 prediction, they do have an easy schedule and are balling right now! I will counter the off ball thing a little. You’re exactly right about the usage rate not being a direct correlation for sure, and yes by definition he is off the ball a lot but what does he do off ball? My point is there is no off ball action he is involved in, it’s basically iso off ball as well haha. Which look you can’t play the game perfect you just can’t and he plays the game pretty damn close to perfect so I’ll take him for what he is. Man is he fun to watch! Hope the new title is better by the way, please let me know if it’s still bad!
@@_AVC_ I am not sure what kind of off-ball action the Mavs should run for Luka other than getting him post-isos. He is not really a catch and shoot player and neither very quick and shifty to run all across the floor like curry for example. They could maybe use him more as a screener for Kyrie pick and rolls, but luka does not really roll nor pop that well and it creates problems with the line-ups as it would be hard to fit Lively or Gaffort into that kind of action. What would you like to see?
@@cadrollhunting3564 Those are all great points and I agree with you on almost all of it! I think quickness isn’t that important off ball, I think it’s more so reading the defense and mastering the “quick first step” and that’s something anyone can do. You also make a good point that Luka off ball doesn’t work with the given roster. Because if he/Kyrie doesn’t have it then who does? What I would be curious to see, and they would need a new roster to make this feasible or have a big really become a better playmaker, is them run what I call the high post hub offense. In essence a big operates FT line extended as the wings/guards engage in like floppy/flare/pistol action around the hub. The hope is the gravity of shooters moving gives the opportunity for easy hand off and slip passes. I can’t help but think that if you get Kyrie/Luka and insert 3rd player in some action like that you might see some easier scoring opportunities come for them cuz you can’t send two to the ball during it. Again though they don’t have the roster for that and what they do now works.
@@_AVC_ Sure, if you can get a guy like Jokic or Sengun who can effectively operate as a hub from the 5, that would be amazing next to Luka, but they are also rare and impossible to find, especially for a team like the mavs who never get any significant free agents (their biggest FA signing in 20 years was chandler parsons :(). I think the best bet for the Mavs is to go all in with Luka ball and surround him with players that fit that system, like they did this deadline. Wing/Guard hybrid players like josh Green or Dante Exum, who can be wings on offense and cover as a guard on defense, because Luka is a 4 on defense, are exactly what the Mavs need more of.
@@cadrollhunting3564 You are so right my friend. It’s a dream scenario for sure and for the time being they should keep doing this. The switching wings are so huge for this team!
I can’t believe you are a Coach and stating that they have been wining with Luka Ball it’s obvious you have not been watching the games - Kyrie Irving is the main reason they have been winning period - Kyrie plays team ball and Luka plays Luka ball - w/o Luka leading the Offense Dallas is so much better period. Take the last damn 6 games, who has come to the Team’s rescue. The team as a whole is a ++ with Kai and - - with Luka. If you’re not going to tell the truth Stop 🛑 now. Those other Star players score big w/o dominating the ball like Luka and they make sure other teammates TOUCH and SHOOT the damn ball. It take a Team to Win and Luka’s fans you all need to just stop 🛑 the BS. - you keep saying Luka took Dallas to the NBA Finals or whatever - Leaving out the FACT that JB is the one who KEPT Dallas playoff season going W/O Luka and upon his return they LOST 😡. Just like he interrupted Kai and the guys winning streak when he returned when they played the Lakers knowing he was not ready, but had to get back to Stats Stacking damn the team….OMG this shit is insane. The dude is totally overrated and I promise he will never leave Dallas because Luka knows another team will not tolerate this BS. I don’t blame those guys for not cutting to the basket when you know his slow azzz is not going to pass you the ball. I don’t blame Kuzma for not coming to lose himself in some damn Luka Ball very smart of him. Players be glad to be traded out of Dallas. If Luka don’t get his Shit together Kai will be next. Kai is too damn good to waste the rest of his career behind Luka period.
Woah. Heated comment 😅. I’ll probably ask to bring a little more evidence to the discussion, it’s totally cool to not be a fan obviously and it’s true we have no idea if he can win a chip like this. However, the numbers say when Luka is on the court the Mavs win games. It’s a pretty clear correlation. Happy to discuss more if you have some stuff to look at, it’s always an open forum here!
This is a total crap. Some guys just put forward this hate Luka narrative, so that others, worse players look better. It is just propaganda "if you hear it many times, it must be true". WHO said that does not want to play with Luka? NOBODY! Spencer actually said his most fun time was in Dallas! Kuzma did not want to go to Dallas (no Luka discussion at all) because he would be the 3rd star and need to fight for championship, but he is Nr 1 and no need to gain anything now... So, why do you BSing over the web ? Do something useful, instead.
I said in the video that Luka’s play style wins you games 😅. I don’t know why we think I’m hating on him but sorry for giving that impression. Please watch the whole video! I think you’ll like my points on why what he does is important. I also have no idea why people would hate playing with him, I do say I could see why it’s boring but winning sure sounds fun to me 🤷🏼♂️.
Instead of a clickbait title then proceed to justify yourself to everyone that you actually talked about something good, why didn't you explain what off the ball practices Luka and his team mates could do to make their offense more cohesive. You can't call yourself a former coach, put a gossip media's headline in your title. Then wonder why people got pissed at your content. You don't advertise burgers by making them look disgusting then ask people "why didn't you finish the burger? if you did, you would've found out we both like good food". All you're coming off as is a passive aggressive hater thats trying to compensate the misleading title by agreeing/saying something nice to everyone in the comments even when youre actually not agreeing with them,
Woah. Well sorry to upset ya 😅. I probably did mess the title up originally, that’s on me. I did fix it though so it shouldn’t seem bad now, let me know if I’m wrong though. I’ll ask though if you watched the video, I show why the people might think a certain way and then counter it with how I think they should look at it and why it works. I love the idea of talking about other ways they could do it but I didn’t think that was completely on topic. I could probably find a way to fit it in though. My goal was to compare the play style again at the end of the season to see if any adjustments were made post deadline. It’s actually funny I published this video thinking “Okay I hope this gives some insight as to why it’s okay to play this way.” Clearly I need to be more clear though 😅.
@@_AVC_ Again, I said nothing bad about your video. If you read what I say, I'm giving you feedback on your title which is clearly a cut from the narrative ESPN does. A negative then pair it with the word Luka, then proceed to talk something good to justify a negative title. There are so many good ideas out there on how to approach the title alone. If only 1 person complained, you'd wonder, but if most have mentioned it already, you're clearly sending the wrong message. You can't ask people to enter a house where they are turned off before they even enter!
@@Dsparity- Oh my bad my bad, I read the part about how I should’ve explained more alternatives in the videos and thought that was more of the focal point. My bad! Does the new title look better? Like the first part is meant to be attention grabbing but then I say it’s good. Any recommendations?
@@_AVC_ Personally i never saw old title. But new one is passable. i would say its quite well justified. PROVOCATIVE, TEASING, RHEOTORICAL QUESTIONS ARE PRETTY MUCH MODERN GAME HERE ON YT. Afterall title intrigued me enough for click, beacuse it seemingly showed more underlying explanation underneath.
@@alesksander Dope I’m doing TH-cam correctly 😂. Appreciate your feedback! I also agree with your take on Kuz and Brunson. Everyone has their reasons and it really ain’t all that important.
Starting off the video with that false narrative that "nobody wants to play with Luka" and "playing the same way Harden did in 2027/18" lmaoooo buddy this is not a good way to start off your video.... Also Kuzma tweeted about how the Mavs were one player away before the Gafford trade and then deleted it and came up eith this bs that he turned down the Mavs trade lmaooo
@@MemesOfProduction69 Hey so I’ll try to touch on all of this. Yeah the article is definitely stupid, it was more of an inspiration point to discuss the topic around his play style because I get a lot of questions about it. Sorry that it wasn’t a good way to start it, it clearly gave people the wrong impression that I’m bashing Luka. Obviously if we watch the full vid that isn’t the case but I’ll try to be more clear next time. As far as usage rate goes, it does talk to the point of why it might bot be fun to play with someone that’s so ball dominant. That was more so the point of it. If we want to look at actual gameplay stats it’s actually pretty interesting. In essence the Mavs are bottom half in a lot of the basic play call options things like P&R and or an off ball action catch and shoot, but they are #2 in iso play. I think the usage rate combined with that knowledge is enough to justify what’s happening on the court. However I’ll again say it works so well for them and I think a lot of teams can learn from this. Give your best player the ball, start from there and figure it out haha. Hope that clears some stuff up!
i like the video but i think the title brushed people off since people in the comments indicated that they are dumb and not understanding every word you said, like i said people are dumb and don't have critical thinking understanding what is the video is about, I'm a Luka fan myself but i will say that he is really good at basketball but the minutes he played when Kyrie is out is abyssal that it make the gameplay of his kind of boring for his teammates, but i think player focused offense or Star offense is great to have with especially that star will be the focused of opponents defense that can get someone offense and it made Luka have a good number of assist that even Kyrie have good number of assist. But the lack of replacement of Luka on who is going to handle the ball really hurts their standing, i think if they are healthy they will be on the 1st bracket of west (Clippers, Denver, Timberwolves, Thunder) but even with their injury list, they on the play in and close to be 5th seed.i think if they go 1st round and win 2nd round, i think that will be the huge process or achievement for them and being in WCF again will solidify Luka legacy even if not finals, and if they are in the finals, i will be shocked because i don't have much expectation to them even if i am a Mavs fan. One thing though, even though i wish Jalen Brunson stayed in Dallas, i think he is the one that help Luka to do some off ball but i will never see it again since Jalen will be in Knicks, but i'm fine for Kyrie and i think the pace of kyrie make the rhythm of their play much faster than last season i wish them good luck and hope to win even only a 1st round this season, i will include them as a dark horse considering their post deadline streak at the moment.
Critical thinking skills is certainly not as common anymore haha. But obviously we can all always do better! Yeah I think you said a lot of good stuff there. I obviously hope they can incorporate some diversity into their offense but I am very curious how far they can go riding him like this. Should be fun to watch!!
Wouldn’t be much of a study without honesty 😅. There is a pretty easy way to look at that if you look at on/off numbers and lineup data on basketball reference. I’ll add it to the list though for sure!
Yeah that is just wild, we have all become numb to how good these dudes are 😂. I remember growing up and thinking nobody would ever touch Oscar Robertson’s records haha.
Well I appreciate the comment nonetheless 😅. Not sure what you wanted the outcome of the deep dive to be but in essence I found that I could see why his play style can seem boring for teammates. However it’s clearly very effective. Should I title it something different?
Please watch ENTIRE video! I think I have given the wrong idea that I’m bashing Luka in this. Towards the middle we start to talk about why it’s effective, and why teams should play more like this. The film at the beginning is to show why the argument is made that he isn’t fun to play with. I did change the title to seem more positive in case that was causing confusion!
They run a LOT more Spain and Horns than your video suggests.
@@Tophergr8 Yeah I guess I could have communicated better that this isn’t all they run, so thank you for that. The idea was to more so show why some might have the opinion that it’s boring to play with him.
I will say though that they don’t run those actions as much as you think. They are in the bottom half of the league for those play call frequencies and #2 in isolation. They actually run isolations twice as often which is pretty wild. But as said in the video, what they do works so hey let em do it!!
@@_AVC_ problem with looking at stats, including how often they run certain actions, is that it lacks important context, such as how many games they have lost to injuries (affecting what kinds of actions they will run). Also, in two of your clips, you called what I perceived as ghost screens (the one where Derek Jones Jr goes to the 3-pt line, for example) as isos. Maybe that's how the NBA makes that determination, but it's misleading.
@@Tophergr8 I mean yeah analytics are like bikinis, they show a lot but not everything haha! Bad joke but you get the point. Injuries definitely affect what people run you’re totally right but that isn’t true with Dallas. Since Luka has joined the team those numbers are pretty consistent. Which I again will say is a good thing, it totally works and people should learn from it!
Not sure exactly which clip you mean with the DJJ stuff, can you time stamp em for me? I don’t remember seeing a ghost screen. The one where he ends up on the top of the key 3 is the failed Spain action, but maybe that isn’t the one you mean?
If anymore teams run an offense like this Trust Me No one would be watching NBA period.
Tell the truth and stop 🛑 eating your words you know this is the worse offense period. I don’t want any damn defense resting on my team because someone who is dribbling 22 seconds and forcing a shot and then don’t play any defense. You’re not a real coach if this is your thinking….it can’t be when you stated you harp on defense….wow
Considering the Mavs has been the top 3 most injured teams in the leauge or maybe it was the most injured, with pretty bad backup players with no big, I'd say he has been carrying the team pretty hard. With Gafford and P.J some easier matchups down the stretch I'm assuming a lot more wins with Luka being even more dangerous with passes and shots.
So true, they have had some pretty annoying injury luck. Dude has been wearing this team like a backpack, if he isn’t on the court they can’t win. I love the new roster additions and I completely agree I think they are gonna be really dangerous!
Some american players do not accept luka as a dominant player like kuzma who pretend to be a superstar player
Damn you think so? From my NBA experience I never really thought there was anyone who thought that way but obviously I didn’t work with everyone. Why do you think this?
Every NBA player wants to win and play…right? Nobody work this hard to play with a teammate that only want to Stack Stats it doesn’t matter where they are from period.
I can see why this guy is a FORMER coach. One thing is obvious...he does not watch Luka on a nightly basis. He has picked out poor plays out of thousands....Mavs have had massive injuries (3,4 and even 5 starters plus) and Luka has had to carry the load. The future will show how wrong this guy is. I have literally watched EVERY full game Luka has played. This former coach has no clue Luka makes people better.
Hey I think I gave you the wrong idea, maybe you didn’t watch the whole vid or maybe I communicated poorly in the vid (certainly possible). I get to talking about how important Luka is to this team and how much the numbers back it. I think I say something at some point like is it my ideal play style no, but it’s clearly helping them win games. I think we just haven’t seen someone win a chip playing like this, but that doesn’t mean it can’t happen especially since it’s still a new concept and very very few players can carry like he can.
The point of the film was more so to point out why it might be boring to play with him. As a player myself (not NBA but high level) I could see the point.
Hopefully that clears it up! I appreciate your analysis, and please don’t tell Dallas you think I don’t watch much of them because they are my #1 league pass team this year 😅. The team I watch the least is my own Bulls…
@@_AVC_ yeah, but you cherry picked the vid clips. The Mavs run a lot more Spain and Horns than your analysis suggests. And a guy with hands on knees in the corner may have something to do with fatigue from having a shortened rotation because the team has been decimated with injuries, so you make "getting the wrong idea" very easy. Did you frequently bury the lead when you coached? Also, how many players come to the Mavs and have the best seasons of their careers? You're spinning a bullshit narrative. Video disliked.
@@Tophergr8 Yikes 😅. I think you didn’t watch the whole video but sorry to upset ya. The video’s purpose was to praise Luka and the fact that his play style leads to winning basketball. We also discuss what teams can take from this and learn from it.
I addressed the P&R stuff in your other comment so hopefully that makes some sense. The point of the clips is to show why people are saying players might not like playing with him, sorry it came off as hateful though that wasn’t the intent. I do encourage you to watch the whole video though you might find we agree on some stuff. Appreciate the comments nonetheless!
@@_AVC_ I did. And you tempered what you said with basically, "but yeah, Luka's great," which doesn't do much for the narrative and hate he already gets from media, so I think you are overstating how much your last part of the video counters the bashing, but you do you. I won't engage anymore.
@@Tophergr8 Well damn sorry I guess 😅. I really don’t think I bashed him at any point but I’ll try to be more clear going forward. I always appreciate the feedback so thank you regardless! Looking forward to watching more Mavs games!
I think the last 3 games with the new additions and a healthy team is what the vision for this team is. And Luka has been passing much more. He's been getting his shot still, but he's been passing, having fun making some wild, crazy passes. There's also been a lot more movement involved with the team. December and January was just brutal b/c so many people were hurt. The team basically had to have Luka playing for 40+ minutes a night just to tread water. But I enjoyed the video!
Glad you liked it! Yeah one of the reasons I made this vid now is I want to do a follow up at the end of the year to see if there are any differences. Because you’re right this roster is more so where they want to be. They are so dominant since the deadline and I’ll be curious to see if they adapt their play style at all going forward! I’m willing to be its still gonna be extremely Luka iso oriented but like I said it’s working haha! The passing game is going crazy right now though for real, Gafford and Luka is a match made in heaven lol.
Yes Luka is playing better Team Ball 🏀 and I hope he Continues. I do see he is making the effort to not hold the ball so long and pass more helping getting the others involved. Kai is getting him to understand they need these guys every Night so when they make it to the playoffs they will be comfortable and READY period.
@@SoloLLC I actually plan on doing a comparison post trade deadline at the end of the year, I wanna compare the numbers to see if the play style changes at all. Could be really interesting!
@@_AVC_ I definitely agree and look forward to the outcome. I’m praying Luka can stay consistent with the current plan cause Dallas can be a Scary Opponent period.
Take care.
Remember Steve nash and Dirk were the big stars in Dallas at one point, they still couldn't get another major superstar to play with them , and these are two MVP's. So should we be surprised that once again, Dallas is struggling to find the right piece for Luka🤔 Also, while I don't like to bring up race..... Is it a coincident that these three names are all white😮😮😮
I think it’s probably harder than ever to move stars in the NBA. It’s probably what the league wants as well, hard for people to be invested with people leaving all the time. I like Kyrie and Luka but I just don’t know if you can win a championship like this. Obviously they would love to have more wings and another ball handler I’m sure, but yeah it is an odd thing that keeps happening. I don’t know what the white guy thing means though 😂.
Yeah you do 😂@@_AVC_
This is just a defense mechanism from players who have no chance playing with Luka
Ngl I didn’t wanna say it in the vid but I have to wonder if Kuzma was like “Nah no expectations here and I get all the shots. Imma just kick it in DC.” Obviously who knows but it’s certainly an interesting thought haha!
@@_AVC_ i mean from career choice and monetary value? Yeah he did quite smart calculated move. iTS COLD AND SHORTSIGHTED. Even for Brunsons case. There was his dad apparently main cog for transfer into Knicks. So yeah Both Brunsosn and Kyle chooses are to be understandable.
OK guys, this is really quite simple... I don't think it is really just a race thing. It's mainly a money thing. Take Kuzma for instance... if he came to the Mavs he knows he wouldn't be scoring 20 PPG. Luka would still get his 30 or more per and Kai his 25... Hardaway would get his 15 and you'd get another 20 or so between Lively and Gaff. The other guys like Green and PJ will get theirs too which really doesn't leave much for Kuzma. Sure, a couple of the others would be gone in the trade for Kuz, but he's a BMOC in DC and really wouldn't be in Dallas. Also, he knows that the Mavs need defenders, and he's already making bank in DC without having to do that. So basically, he decided probably correctly that he really wouldn't help the Mavs win, and he would rather just stay in DC and watch the $$$ flow to him without all that extra pressure. As Dirty Harry once said... "A man's got to know his limitations...". Kuzma knows his.
Woah. I feel enlightened. Thank you for your insight 😂.
People can keep pushing this narrative players don't want to play with Luka while the Mavs continue to get stronger and stronger. As it is now I wouldn't want to face this Mavs squad in the playoffs. Goodluck with that.
I agree, see I wasn’t aware of this narrative until I saw the article. Thought it was an interesting topic at least Xs and Os wise to examine. This team is looking like a tough one to stop right now for sure!
What you don't seem to understand is this whole with players not wanting to play with him is about race not basketball
Damn you think so? 😅 Can you elaborate?
I get it. I played in a rec league with a guy who held the ball the whole time. It's not fun. However, with Dallas's roster while Kyrie was out Luka's playstyle is their best option. The Mavs have showed when fully healthy they can play faster. With the new additions the Mavericks will be much more exciting and a tough out in the playoffs. I am only worried about a healthy Nuggets or Clippers team. And even now, I think the Mavs match up against them much better.
This comment perfectly sums up the video!! Might not be fun, but it sure works for them and they need to do it! New additions should make this a fun team, thank you for the great summary!
As a die hard Mavs fan: Luka is incredible but the style of play is partly due to Jason Kidd having no clue. Luka has constant green light and it's tough when the shot isn't falling. Also, most of our other players wilt on offense. It's more fun to watch the others when they're playing with Kyrie/Exum. We need a coach to unlock a less predictable offense.
You think they would be better off without Kidd? I don’t have a strong opinion on it so curious to hear thoughts.
@@_AVC_ Right now vs Boston: we were down two points and suddenly Kidd put a lineup of four guards and Kleber. Boston has KP and Horford out there. Tatum is taller than everyone but Maxi. The two point lead just became 14 for the Celtics. No Lively or Gafford during the entire this quarter.
Kidd is awful. If there were a protest I would show up with a megaphone.
@@mrRambleGamble Hahaha I love that you came back to tell me this 😂. I have noticed he really loves playing Kleber over them. I like Kleber but not that much. I’m sorry for your suffering 😂.
If you've watched Luka's playstyle in Europe, he plays a significant time off the ball and is actually good with it.
This was an interesting topic to me so thank you for bringing it up! I don’t know how to see FIBA advanced stats so if you have some way please share! So I went and watched like 500 possessions from his last FIBA run (not a ton but eh time is of the essence haha).
I would say it’s definitely not a significant time off ball, it’s definitely more than the NBA though. What’s interesting is that he scores/gets assists in the same ways that he does in the NBA. Which means his usage style is the same. Again, not a bad thing at all. I just don’t think we can call him an off ball player haha.
@@_AVC_I think he's talking more about pre-NBA Luka. In recent years Luka has been playing more like his NBA self in Slovenian national team games, but before he entered the NBA he played much more off-ball at Madrid and the Slovenian national team
@@AMINOMMA Ohhhh good point, yeah he would definitely be right then. They have much more of a respect the elders mentality in foreign ball. That’s why young studs don’t get as many minutes.
Well he needs to play off ball more. Dallas gets so many fast breaks when Luka doesn’t have the ball. People get to cut etc. this shit makes a difference in players like JG,Hardy and THJ - Kai gets so much PRODUCTION from these players than Luka period.
Do y’all think Dallas can win while playing this way?
I think you're right in some areas.
But what's being missed here is the issue on consistency and health.
They have 200 minutes less played compared to BOS best 5. Jokic/Murray played 7+ years together before winning a championship. Jaylen and Tatum, too.
I mean go ahead an compare the minutes played among the top teams in the NBA. The Mavs' best 5 has played one of the least games.
Also, it'll be great to focus on the last 6 games where guys were fully healthy. You only showed the New York clip. But even on that game, 5 Mavs players scored in double figures.
Here's his statline on that game:
FG: 13-24
3-PT: 7-14
FT: 6-7
REB: 8
ASST: 11
STL: 4
BLK: 1
PER: +18
PTS: 39
So that's an all-around fantastic game if you ask me.
Talk about the 'Luka Effect'.
Derrick Jones Jr. average 9 points per game this season. On his last game VS New York, he got 18 points.
That's the highest since Miami in 2019.
Exum was playing in the Euroleague for 2 seasons. Now, he's a big contributor for the Mavs.
Spencer Dinwiddie was considered a bust in Washington a season ago. His teammates hate him -- Kuzma especially. He got traded to Mavs and went to the WCF.
Dorian Finney-Smith got the back after playing for Luka.
And let's not forget, Kyrie chose to re-sign here. He could've said, "Trade me to the Lakers." Last season.
During the OKC, WAS, and SAS games, many players were involved outside Luka -- mainly Kyrie, Josh Green, Maxi Kleber, and Gafford.
So about the question whether Dallas can win while playing this way becomes irrelevant because now they have a much better talent and a deeper bench.
Compare this roster to last season before the All-Star break:
PG - Luka
SG - Ntilikina
SG - Josh Green
SF - Bullock
C - Powell
Bench: C. Wood, J. McGee, M. Wright IV, T. Pinson, J. Hardy
To put it into context. Bullock now plays 9 minutes for the rockets. Ntiilikina is MIA. And Powell is now a bench warmer. That's the quality of players Luka has to play with last season.
Here's the roster now vs SAS before the All-Star Break:
PG - Luka
SG - Kyrie
SG - Josh Green
PF - PJ Washington
C - Daniel Gafford
Bench: DJJ, Lively, J. Hardy, Powell, T. Hardaway Jr.
And then check out the box score. The points/rebounds/assistas were distributed well.
Again, if anything, that's a lack of talent, cohesion, and injuries.
@@dexarceo821 This comment is actually awesome. We should talk some more hoops at some point! I think maybe I wasn’t clear enough in my vid, I apologize for that.
I’ll touch on the injury thing first, I don’t think there is much of a correlation to who he plays with and his usage. I’m not denying this is a really good roster now I just don’t think it’s changing how he plays (which isn’t a bad thing).
The point of the film was to show the how the offense works, it’s pretty basic but it works great for them. It’s more so to show it’s pretty boring for other players to play in. Which as a coach I don’t care about if it works haha which it does because he’s that good!
I felt like I said in the video that Luka is clearly what makes the Mavericks work and that there is proof that it can work in the playoffs as well. The skepticism I have is solely based on we haven’t seen someone carry this usage to a championship. BUT few have tried and not many could actually hold that load, Luka seems to be able to. Apologies though I don’t know if that wasn’t clear enough in the vid, I thought I addressed that well in the on/off section but I’ll try to be more clear next time!
Seriously though love the player analysis, I think it’s great. Hopefully I resolved any confusion I caused?
@@_AVC_ , Yeah no worries. It's great to have a discussion about bball.
Just want to make a point about some things especially about how Luka plays. I think the idea about Luka's game being boring is kind of relative to who the player is.
So in a vacuum, it's easy to say that they don't like playing with Luka. But if we dig deeper, there must be a bigger reason for that.
For example, Kuzma would like to have a higher usage rate so he can command a bigger payday -- probably his last since he's already 28.
Dinwiddie grew up in L.A. and can get more opportunities to display his talent for a larger contract next season.
If he's in Dallas, he'll play behind Luka/Kyrie/Hardy/Green/Exum.
Let's not forget about Jerami Grant.
He left Denver and Jokic to be the man in Detroit!
That doesn't mean hates playing with Jokic and Murray, right?
And then you've got Gafford and PJ Washington who are so excited to play with him.
Grant Williams before getting traded said it was easy playing for Luka.
Seth Curry agreed to sign in Dallas -- he could've done so elsewhere.
Kyrie didn't re-signed for a max contract.
I heard rumors that Richaun Holmes took a pay cut to sign with the Mavs, too.
I think Luka's high usage rate is more out of necessity.
Kidd emphasized this when he said that Luka's better than Dirk.
I feel like it's more of a slight dig to the F.O. more than Dirk, actually.
It's his way of saying, "Give this man some help -- or you'll lose him."
And what do you know?
Weeks later, Nico traded Curry and Grant for PJ and Gafford.
Now, they 48 minutes of solid center rotation plus athleticism, defense, and size.
You'll also notice that Luka's more engaged on the defensive end since he knows there's a backline support (ie PJ/Maxi/Lively/Gafford).
Also, let's not forget that Luka's only 24!
Shai is older than him and yet many personalities are drooling over his 'potential.'
Jordan haven't won anything until he was 28. Jokic was 28, too. Giannis was 26. LeBron was 27.
So who's to say that this is Luka's final version?
Can you imagine what he can do once he reaches his athletic prime?
I mean, Brunson and Luka played together for 3 years -- then reached WCF.
Who's to say, that after one more season of playing together, Josh, Lively, Gafford, PJ Washington, Omax Prosper, and Hardy finally figured out how to play with Luka?
Remember, these players are all under 26 years old! Not in their athletic primes yet.
So it's not like the Mavs' core don't have time to figure this one out.
@@dexarceo821 100% you are right! I think we are in complete agreement. In the video I wanted to just point out why some might think it’s boring, and I could see why. Obviously it’s subjective if they actually think that. The play style is definitely effective though, that’s why we talk about the on/off numbers in the back half of the video and discuss the importance of your best players having high usage rates.
Yeah obviously the play style could change but in full honesty I don’t think it will but I don’t know that it needs to. The numbers say it works, and I think with the core they have now they fill a lot of the needs to run something like this.
So yeah I think we are saying 95% the same thing haha.
@@_AVC_ , yeah.
And with how many teams rely on analytics these days, Cuban being a big data guy himself, I wouldn't be surprised if they stick what's been working so far.
I mean 3's are better than 2's any day.
That being said, it's also important to note, that pace is also important.
2 quick twos are better than one contested 3 late in the shot clock.
Plus, it's less wear and tear for Luka.
And it all starts with controlling the glass -- which I think they solved with PJ and Gafford at the helm.
So now they can cover more ground, close out on shooters quicker, and force tough shots.
Also, let's remember that Luka never had teammate that can attack close outs than what PJ have done in the last 3 games.
Not Maxi.
Not DFS.
And definitely not Grant Williams.
My point is, this roster is evolving and so is Luka's playstyle.
And while we'll keep on seeing Luka iso from time to time which should be a staple of the Mavs offense...
... don't be surprised if we start seeing PJ post-ups or a Kyrie/Gafford P n' R.
We already seen a few Green/Gafford give n' go.
Let's remember one thing:
Nico has to put up with the shitty roster the previous has built over the last 5 years.
This isn't a finish product.
Despite the title being quite the clickbait, the video is actually quite good. Lukas usage rate was a necessity for the Mavs because the team around Luka was absolutely terrible for most of his time in the NBA and i think the Mavs overachieved quite a bit since Luka is there with the exception of last season given the circumstances. Luka also plays off-ball quite a lot, especially in the post, usage rate does not represent at all if you play on or off ball, it just takes the final shot or turnover into account.
It is amazing what Luka is able to do this season despite the Mavs having the worst injury luck in the League so far, Kyrie missing half of the season and actually long stretches where the Mavs were missing 6 out of their 8 best players. Now that everybody is healthy and after the great additions at the deadline, the mavs clearly look like the best offense in the league and a true contender. They are on a 6 game winning streak in dominant fashion and they have the 3rd easiest schedule from now on, if everybody is healthy, i would not be surprised if the Mavs are the 3rd seed in the west in the end.
Thank you for watching the whole video haha! I did just change the title to hopefully make it a little more clear so thank you for the feedback.
Yeah it’s incredibly impressive what he does with the help he is given. It’s 100% clear that Luka makes the Mavs work. I agree that with the roster they have now I think they could really do some damage this season. I like the top 3 prediction, they do have an easy schedule and are balling right now!
I will counter the off ball thing a little. You’re exactly right about the usage rate not being a direct correlation for sure, and yes by definition he is off the ball a lot but what does he do off ball? My point is there is no off ball action he is involved in, it’s basically iso off ball as well haha. Which look you can’t play the game perfect you just can’t and he plays the game pretty damn close to perfect so I’ll take him for what he is. Man is he fun to watch! Hope the new title is better by the way, please let me know if it’s still bad!
@@_AVC_ I am not sure what kind of off-ball action the Mavs should run for Luka other than getting him post-isos. He is not really a catch and shoot player and neither very quick and shifty to run all across the floor like curry for example. They could maybe use him more as a screener for Kyrie pick and rolls, but luka does not really roll nor pop that well and it creates problems with the line-ups as it would be hard to fit Lively or Gaffort into that kind of action. What would you like to see?
@@cadrollhunting3564 Those are all great points and I agree with you on almost all of it! I think quickness isn’t that important off ball, I think it’s more so reading the defense and mastering the “quick first step” and that’s something anyone can do. You also make a good point that Luka off ball doesn’t work with the given roster. Because if he/Kyrie doesn’t have it then who does?
What I would be curious to see, and they would need a new roster to make this feasible or have a big really become a better playmaker, is them run what I call the high post hub offense. In essence a big operates FT line extended as the wings/guards engage in like floppy/flare/pistol action around the hub. The hope is the gravity of shooters moving gives the opportunity for easy hand off and slip passes. I can’t help but think that if you get Kyrie/Luka and insert 3rd player in some action like that you might see some easier scoring opportunities come for them cuz you can’t send two to the ball during it.
Again though they don’t have the roster for that and what they do now works.
@@_AVC_ Sure, if you can get a guy like Jokic or Sengun who can effectively operate as a hub from the 5, that would be amazing next to Luka, but they are also rare and impossible to find, especially for a team like the mavs who never get any significant free agents (their biggest FA signing in 20 years was chandler parsons :(). I think the best bet for the Mavs is to go all in with Luka ball and surround him with players that fit that system, like they did this deadline. Wing/Guard hybrid players like josh Green or Dante Exum, who can be wings on offense and cover as a guard on defense, because Luka is a 4 on defense, are exactly what the Mavs need more of.
@@cadrollhunting3564 You are so right my friend. It’s a dream scenario for sure and for the time being they should keep doing this. The switching wings are so huge for this team!
I can’t believe you are a Coach and stating that they have been wining with Luka Ball it’s obvious you have not been watching the games - Kyrie Irving is the main reason they have been winning period - Kyrie plays team ball and Luka plays Luka ball - w/o Luka leading the Offense Dallas is so much better period. Take the last damn 6 games, who has come to the Team’s rescue. The team as a whole is a ++ with Kai and - - with Luka. If you’re not going to tell the truth Stop 🛑 now.
Those other Star players score big w/o dominating the ball like Luka and they make sure other teammates TOUCH and SHOOT the damn ball. It take a Team to Win and Luka’s fans you all need to just stop 🛑 the BS. - you keep saying Luka took Dallas to the NBA Finals or whatever - Leaving out the FACT that JB is the one who KEPT Dallas playoff season going
W/O Luka and upon his return they LOST 😡. Just like he interrupted Kai and the guys winning streak when he returned when they played the Lakers knowing he was not ready, but had to get back to Stats Stacking damn the team….OMG this shit is insane.
The dude is totally overrated and I promise he will never leave Dallas because Luka knows another team will not tolerate this BS.
I don’t blame those guys for not cutting to the basket when you know his slow azzz is not going to pass you the ball. I don’t blame Kuzma for not coming to lose himself in some damn Luka Ball very smart of him. Players be glad to be traded out of Dallas. If Luka don’t get his Shit together Kai will be next. Kai is too damn good to waste the rest of his career behind Luka period.
Woah. Heated comment 😅. I’ll probably ask to bring a little more evidence to the discussion, it’s totally cool to not be a fan obviously and it’s true we have no idea if he can win a chip like this. However, the numbers say when Luka is on the court the Mavs win games. It’s a pretty clear correlation. Happy to discuss more if you have some stuff to look at, it’s always an open forum here!
This is a total crap. Some guys just put forward this hate Luka narrative, so that others, worse players look better. It is just propaganda "if you hear it many times, it must be true". WHO said that does not want to play with Luka? NOBODY! Spencer actually said his most fun time was in Dallas! Kuzma did not want to go to Dallas (no Luka discussion at all) because he would be the 3rd star and need to fight for championship, but he is Nr 1 and no need to gain anything now... So, why do you BSing over the web ? Do something useful, instead.
I said in the video that Luka’s play style wins you games 😅. I don’t know why we think I’m hating on him but sorry for giving that impression. Please watch the whole video! I think you’ll like my points on why what he does is important.
I also have no idea why people would hate playing with him, I do say I could see why it’s boring but winning sure sounds fun to me 🤷🏼♂️.
Not having Kuzma in the Mavs is great!
I’d say you are correct! This Mavs team is rolling so far!
Instead of a clickbait title then proceed to justify yourself to everyone that you actually talked about something good, why didn't you explain what off the ball practices Luka and his team mates could do to make their offense more cohesive. You can't call yourself a former coach, put a gossip media's headline in your title. Then wonder why people got pissed at your content. You don't advertise burgers by making them look disgusting then ask people "why didn't you finish the burger? if you did, you would've found out we both like good food". All you're coming off as is a passive aggressive hater thats trying to compensate the misleading title by agreeing/saying something nice to everyone in the comments even when youre actually not agreeing with them,
Woah. Well sorry to upset ya 😅. I probably did mess the title up originally, that’s on me. I did fix it though so it shouldn’t seem bad now, let me know if I’m wrong though.
I’ll ask though if you watched the video, I show why the people might think a certain way and then counter it with how I think they should look at it and why it works.
I love the idea of talking about other ways they could do it but I didn’t think that was completely on topic. I could probably find a way to fit it in though. My goal was to compare the play style again at the end of the season to see if any adjustments were made post deadline.
It’s actually funny I published this video thinking “Okay I hope this gives some insight as to why it’s okay to play this way.” Clearly I need to be more clear though 😅.
@@_AVC_ Again, I said nothing bad about your video. If you read what I say, I'm giving you feedback on your title which is clearly a cut from the narrative ESPN does. A negative then pair it with the word Luka, then proceed to talk something good to justify a negative title. There are so many good ideas out there on how to approach the title alone. If only 1 person complained, you'd wonder, but if most have mentioned it already, you're clearly sending the wrong message. You can't ask people to enter a house where they are turned off before they even enter!
@@Dsparity- Oh my bad my bad, I read the part about how I should’ve explained more alternatives in the videos and thought that was more of the focal point. My bad! Does the new title look better? Like the first part is meant to be attention grabbing but then I say it’s good. Any recommendations?
@@_AVC_ Personally i never saw old title. But new one is passable. i would say its quite well justified. PROVOCATIVE, TEASING, RHEOTORICAL QUESTIONS ARE PRETTY MUCH MODERN GAME HERE ON YT. Afterall title intrigued me enough for click, beacuse it seemingly showed more underlying explanation underneath.
@@alesksander Dope I’m doing TH-cam correctly 😂. Appreciate your feedback! I also agree with your take on Kuz and Brunson. Everyone has their reasons and it really ain’t all that important.
Starting off the video with that false narrative that "nobody wants to play with Luka" and "playing the same way Harden did in 2027/18" lmaoooo buddy this is not a good way to start off your video....
Also Kuzma tweeted about how the Mavs were one player away before the Gafford trade and then deleted it and came up eith this bs that he turned down the Mavs trade lmaooo
Also usage rate =/= the same playing style. It's such a stupid and lazy statement to make.
@@MemesOfProduction69 Hey so I’ll try to touch on all of this. Yeah the article is definitely stupid, it was more of an inspiration point to discuss the topic around his play style because I get a lot of questions about it. Sorry that it wasn’t a good way to start it, it clearly gave people the wrong impression that I’m bashing Luka. Obviously if we watch the full vid that isn’t the case but I’ll try to be more clear next time.
As far as usage rate goes, it does talk to the point of why it might bot be fun to play with someone that’s so ball dominant. That was more so the point of it. If we want to look at actual gameplay stats it’s actually pretty interesting. In essence the Mavs are bottom half in a lot of the basic play call options things like P&R and or an off ball action catch and shoot, but they are #2 in iso play. I think the usage rate combined with that knowledge is enough to justify what’s happening on the court. However I’ll again say it works so well for them and I think a lot of teams can learn from this. Give your best player the ball, start from there and figure it out haha. Hope that clears some stuff up!
i like the video but i think the title brushed people off since people in the comments indicated that they are dumb and not understanding every word you said, like i said people are dumb and don't have critical thinking understanding what is the video is about, I'm a Luka fan myself but i will say that he is really good at basketball but the minutes he played when Kyrie is out is abyssal that it make the gameplay of his kind of boring for his teammates, but i think player focused offense or Star offense is great to have with especially that star will be the focused of opponents defense that can get someone offense and it made Luka have a good number of assist that even Kyrie have good number of assist. But the lack of replacement of Luka on who is going to handle the ball really hurts their standing, i think if they are healthy they will be on the 1st bracket of west (Clippers, Denver, Timberwolves, Thunder) but even with their injury list, they on the play in and close to be 5th seed.i think if they go 1st round and win 2nd round, i think that will be the huge process or achievement for them and being in WCF again will solidify Luka legacy even if not finals, and if they are in the finals, i will be shocked because i don't have much expectation to them even if i am a Mavs fan.
One thing though, even though i wish Jalen Brunson stayed in Dallas, i think he is the one that help Luka to do some off ball but i will never see it again since Jalen will be in Knicks, but i'm fine for Kyrie and i think the pace of kyrie make the rhythm of their play much faster than last season i wish them good luck and hope to win even only a 1st round this season, i will include them as a dark horse considering their post deadline streak at the moment.
Critical thinking skills is certainly not as common anymore haha. But obviously we can all always do better!
Yeah I think you said a lot of good stuff there. I obviously hope they can incorporate some diversity into their offense but I am very curious how far they can go riding him like this. Should be fun to watch!!
Do a Study on Teammates Production Kyrie Vs Luka
Be honest period.
Wouldn’t be much of a study without honesty 😅. There is a pretty easy way to look at that if you look at on/off numbers and lineup data on basketball reference. I’ll add it to the list though for sure!
35,9,10 is insane stats..God Stats...
Yeah that is just wild, we have all become numb to how good these dudes are 😂. I remember growing up and thinking nobody would ever touch Oscar Robertson’s records haha.
its called Copium
As in the idea that people don’t wanna play with him? If so then yeah 100% 😂
@@_AVC_ ya man
Won’t even watch the video….the title is idiotic.
Well I appreciate the comment nonetheless 😅. Not sure what you wanted the outcome of the deep dive to be but in essence I found that I could see why his play style can seem boring for teammates. However it’s clearly very effective.
Should I title it something different?
@@_AVC_ Sorry Bro, my brother had my phone and wrote some weird stuff all around TH-cam 🤔.
@@clausbacher Oh. Well that’s odd 😅. Glad ya got your phone back lol