@@LaVerdad2 How quickly fans turn? What do you expect, our management is afraid to spend the big dollars on big players, instead were spending 15-20mil on mediocre players, besidesm fofana and pavlovic who are obviously not mediocre. No one was ever happy with RedBird as our owners, nothing new has changed.
@@forzamiIano so Reinders, RLC, and Pulisic didn’t add a lot to the team last year? Pavlovic has looked great, and Tammy comes in immediate contribution, and same with Morata the starting Forward for the champions Spain. We don’t have the timeframe to make a decision yet. They were handed a team in collapse and Maldini made big mistakes as well.
Finally we get the awaited Kush and Keralista collab. For me Alex is more of a typical fairweather fan, twitter and reddit is filled with fans who just rant about RedBird all the time and rarely talk about Milan and its problems, probably still upset due to Maldini getting sacked. I mean if there are statements like “I would be OK if Conte and De Zerbi were managers with worse performances” then is there really any thoughts behind the opinion? But thanks a lot Kush, I guess we won’t always find people who share our views within our Milan family but we all will be viewing the journey of our club together.
Yes, the long awaited collab, we'll be doing this more and more! So. I think Alex's point was that we would feel differently about poor starts with the other managers because they would be a bit more proven and we would have more optimism in spite of poor results, but with Fonseca there's immediate concern. Thank you for watching my friend! We are in this together for sure 😅
I am Italian and the perception that most fans have here (and I guess Alex included) is that having those managers like Conte or De Zerbi even with a worse performance would still be a sign of ambition, simply because of the fact that you signed coaches that have a winning mentality or bring innovation in the way they play. You can clearly see this in Juventus for example, as they just signed Thiago Motta after having a coach like Allegri who seemed content in proposing a type of football that was stubborn and not really working well for the team he had. It gives a sense of ambition and wanting to build something that works. With the choice of Fonseca instead, supporters will not have any patience because they see this decision as mediocre from the very start, for a coach who never won anything and who would be ok in performing average.
@@elianiccolini802 my point is exactly this, that fans don’t know any better they are just reactive and used to the old Italian ways of marquee signings and flashy announcements which is why except for a select few coaches the whole Europe takes Italian football as a joke. De Zerbi hasn’t even done anything, just hyped by the media but his team finished 10th and no one offered him a job except Marseille who by the way also wanted Fonseca first. How many coaches have Juve changed? Pirlo, Sarri, Allegri, now they have Motta and let me tell you fans reacted the same way for Pirlo and Sarri when they joined. Inter fans wanted Inzaghi out in the middle of his second season, their management didn’t listen to the fans and look what happened.
@@aniketmisra9845 It's just a matter of ambition in the end, and the matches we continue to have (just look at Venezia and Liverpool) are simply disgraceful. We don't even need flashy signings at this point, but a management that knows a tiny bit of football and makes logical decisions. Fonseca is a mediocre decision and management did not even make a mercato to follow his style of play and tactics, I feel sorry for him. I agree with you that sometimes fans just are overreacting and management does not need to listen, but this is a case where they must, as the situation has been pretty bad ever since we won the last scudetto. Only team in Italy to not have a Sports Manager, this is pretty shameful...
milan has so many youth players like jiminez, zeroli , camarada.liberali,torraino ... i want to see them integrated into the main team.... its sustainable and we would be competitive
Awesome video Kush, really enjoyed it. Just wanted to make a quick point about Maldini and his ghost that still haunts us. I love Maldini, hes a Milan legend. But please lets not forget that all of his many many blunders. All the players we missed out on, Origi over Dybala, Ballo Toure, Dest, Vranx, spending the entire summer chasing CDK instead of filling out the positions we actually needed players for, all the players we let go for free, the list goes on and on. Its understandable that after the CDK summer that he wouldnt be trusted with the amount of power he had till that moment. But he could have stayed on in a slightly lesser role. He didnt accept that. The mans a legend who did incredible things, but he clearly needed help and he clearly wasnt listening to his scouting department or anyone really when he was making some of these decisions. Origi over Dybala reminds me of when we messed up the Tevez deal and ended up going for Matri.... Disaster.
And yet we won a scudetto with Maldini. And look at all the average players we have signed since Maldini left. The only player worth anything is Pulisic.
This year just continues to get better. Been a subscriber to Milan's premium TH-cam channel for almost 3 years. Get a message abruptly saying we would be refunded for September and that the channel was being shut down... I honestly have no clue what this ownership is doing right now. Practically ripping apart all of the positive things the old ownership / management brought to this evolving club.
According to reactionary online fans everything is already over and Milan sucks because Maldini isnt here anymore This is a ridiculous online fanbase in comparison to anyone else, its like being negative brings them pleasure and they all start salivating with their twitter/social media posts whenever Milan faces a tough time Rohit is also the only person i've seen who actually knows about Milan's 3 year settlement agreement with UEFA, literally everyone else ignores it, calls it a non-issue.
Right?! We didn’t play in the Europa league a few years ago when we qualified as a way to negotiate being allowed to play in the UCL proper the next season, given we qualified and we did. The finances are teetering on the edge at Milan and a wrong step means not playing in Europe which would cause even more financial problems.
@@kylerodd2342 seems like paitence is like non-existent with almost everyone nowadays they want the club to be run like how the Chinese did it, rush rush and then fall face down again and get banned by UEFA
@Freestyle80 While it’s true that we are under settlement agreement, our settlement agreement allows us to have an aggregate deficit of up to €60 million during the monitoring period (from 2022/2023 to 2025/2026, when UEFA will conduct its review). So far, we are at +€10 million, meaning we have an investment margin that has been deliberately left unused. And this says an awful lot about the intentions of our ownership, imho. Not to mention that of our squad cost or ridiculously low compared to our revenues and yet we barely made a profit (+4 balance sheet). Why? Because we have incredibly high extra sporting post (search in Italian “il grande inganno di Redbird” from the journalist Paolo Ziliani and the translate it with google translate, it will explain a lot) because our ownership is probably siphoning money out of the club
Rohit is a gem, really interesting to listen too. Alex D in contrast comes across as not having a single original stance, just parroting the most mainstream Milan opinions. Maybe he is scared to loose viewers but I was considering skipping him a couple of times.
I will give you a straight answer to the question. NO. And to those of you who listened to some analyst who believed and agreed that firing Maldini was a good move, you are partly responsible for enabling/backing this ownership to this day. We are dealing with incompetence and arrogance of the highest order. Milan 2024 bears no resemblance to the club I started to follow in the 1980s. It lacks ANY sporting ambition and humility. The owners lie and transmit those lies via their yes man coach and inept managerial team to the fans. Milan today is nothing short of an embarrassment. I hope the 50M American fans buy plenty of that overpriced Yankees/Milan paraphernalia so that Redbird can win the balance sheet trophy for a third year running.
Wow, @footballkush So much covered and I LOVE IT. There is so much here and so much I disagree with, particularly with Alex's points. This is a long one 👇 About Fonseca: The "yes man" narrative is just nonsense. This is a coach who had a lot of influence on Lille and Shaktar. We talk also talk about De Zerbi as if he ever won more than Fonseca. It's Italian preference and quite frankly I'm tired of it. About the Mercato: We got 2 new strikers and one central midfielder with good defensive attributes, a killer center back and a WTF signing at right back. But to me our sales are where sh*t really hits the fan. Simic is a decent sale, but we still have Ballo-Touré and Origi. What was the point in having Sael in the squad if he would be sold right after? Why do we still have Musah and Bennacer? All our "unwanted departures" are loans. I'll add that we also do far too many changes each season. We don't do enough core to build on each year. That has to change. A true sporting vision and identity would help. About Redbird & Management: They want a return on their investment and the only way they can do that is grow and winning is part of that strategy. You ain't getting that by doing just OK... so again, the Italians prefer their own. Antonio D'Ottavio is Sporting director but sure, it's as if we didn't have any. I also really want us to stop deifying Berlusconi. 45% of is ability was due to his influence in politics and media. Another 45% was due to the league's standing. The last 10 was due to his passion that lead to pretty sketchy sh*t over the years. And let's not forget that he used and sold the club to fund his politics... We should grow up a bit and leave that time behind us. Yes things aren't great right now but I think we are still headed in the right direction. About Maldini: If he is needed to motivate players, then we should sell those players. If you need who needs Papa to perform your place isn't at Milan, at least not in the first team. I love Theo and Leao and I hope this "they miss Maldini" narrative is utter nonsense. If it turns out true, then I would pack their bags my self and hope Theo never makes les bleus again. These men are adults and we really need to stop deifying Maldini. I'll just end with this: We need to copy was Real Madrid is doing and do one better. Futuro is part of that but let's hope these kids have a pathway to the first team. Milan needs to be bigger than just a club and for everyone to succeed need success on the pitch. Again, awesome vid! Amazing work man !
My goodness, you dropped some serious takes here. There's a lot to address but I'd have to say: Fonseca's only way to get into Milan fans right light is through results, he'll keep getting questioned by fans until he delivers and I believe he has the squad to give better results than the first three games, so let's see. Mercato incomings were decent, outgoings were a mess. I am okay with giving Musah some time though, Isma's time is over now. Interesting take on RedBird and Silvio 👌🏼 I think the influence of Maldini and others in the training matters but their absence shouldn't shift performances to the negative. That is true! 🫶🏼
The most upsetting thing is the realization that we can no longer be in the scudetto conversation. The question now is, how can we make sure we secure a Champions League position this season. We know we have a team that can reach a Champions position, however, I don’t know if Fonseca will help us reach that.
Based on everything I can see: Ibra is a representative of Redbird and acts between the club, the media, and the players on their behalf. Furlani handles negotiations and finances more broadly, while Moncada sets the targets for furlani to negotiate with and how he values them. Cardinale handles investment into the club and long term vision for the stadium project and sets the agenda for commercial ambitions, as well as providing ancillary support for the recruitment structure through Zelus analytics.
Okay but you could have taken the bargain on Morata. Signed Zirkzee. And Camarda and Zirkzee could be the long term project as I think they compliment each other on paper
@@wuxiagamescentral no zlatan won 2 league titles for milan scoring 8 goals in serie a in 2021-22 and in 2010/11 got 14 goals and 12 assist and in 2011/12 got 28 goals and 7 assist
@Freestyle80 Baresi is and will always be one of the greatest legends of the club alongside Maldini and Rivera. The fact remains that he has always been obedient even to the worst ownerships and in the 2018 he “guaranteed” for the financial power of Yongong Li
I've watched Gerry and his team talk. I have full faith in their project. It's rare that owners are fans...but he is honest in his approach and wants to win both financially and competitively. Remember, it's more profitable and better for business reputation to win major trophies.!!!..yes, they are trying to crack the code to get it right (within their budget, which is the challenge). Let's wait 6 months then we will know for sure. Forza Milan ❤🖤❤🖤 I'm a soccer guy but I'm also a money guy and this project excites me in all aspects. In an ideal world we need ANCELLOTTI back...but it's not an ideal world, so we grind!!!!
I completely agree! Especially on your ancelotti take, since he represents the last great Milan. I don’t think he will come though, he’s 65 and his contract with Real expires in 2026. I think he will retire after when his contract expires.
I actually know one of the lawyers at RedBird. According to him, the fund is broke and doesn’t have enough money to sustain a football club. Most of the group think they should sell as it makes no sense why they have the asset. Could totally see them selling if a good offer comes
First and foremost great episode 👏👏👏 getting other true Ac milan fans on 👍. Just a few things however with regards some of their comments. Owners of lazio back in 2001 were parmalat a global dairy company who at that time had both lazio and parma and were let's just say a little corrupte and regards spending made no difference to there plite as they were going to suffer because they were owned by the mafia . Florentino perez has kept Real Madrid afloat for decades in fact back in the day he was investigate by the Spanish government for getting his hands on EU bail out money to fund Madrid so yes they make money because they are dominant on a global scale but large parts of that still come from Perez among others. Interesting one of your guests said that Berlusconi gave him nightmares😂 I'm sure there are individually people who he gave nightmares to but not an Ac milan fan. Sadly with regards to Berlusconi all you said was how he just threw millions at it but failed to mention how he transformed the club in world leaders with regards to sport science coaching scouting something which this current management never speak of. Now with regards to finance debt is part of football all ways has been and will be. Take the cash cow of the epl or as it turns out not due to clubs being punished for over spending Man City having over a 100 charges against them for that very reason. FFP was and is the death nail of Italian football creating what is in plain sight an EUROPEAN SUPER LEAGUE England Spain Germany and Paris where the rules of FFP don't exist that's why Man City won't face punishment in any way short or form and nither will Barca who's in debt to the tune of 1.6 billion. Ask any Barca fan what gives them nightmares today there debt or becoming Ac milan. As for the future I've watched Italian football and Ac milan for over 30 years and right now things are not good on both fronts and I can only hope that something anything positive happens soon and with regards the coach and the players I don't blame them I blame the people who appointed them and continue to use them.
do not think we will return to the top until we have a new ownership group. Red Bird has done well with the commercial side, futuro and building the stadium. Sporting wise they are not ambitious and we have downgraded in sporting staff going from Maldini and Massara to Moncada etc l. You can tell they are happy for maintaining top 4 until stadium is done. The hire of Fonseca proofs this.
@@Freestyle80 I did not want conte I wanted Conceincao Fonseca is a marginal upgrade on Pioli if that. Plus signing players like Emerson does not help their unambtious in sporting side
@@Flamboy0911 Coincencao is still jobless and he plays a style that Milan has never played in their history, defensive 3-5-2 football. Why would they bring him in? That would've meant signing new Wingbacks more CBs and more b2b mids and probably go after someone like Lukaku. Not realistic at all. Also that guy only ever won in Portugal, how is that so different from Fonesca?
@Freestyle80 Explain the logic that tells why Milan despite enormously higher revenues than Napoli cannot spend even a fraction of what Napoli spends on players and coaches
@@SmellslikeTeenspirit-f3e your beloved Maldini let 4 players worth around 200m go for free while Napoli in that same time was able to sell their stars who wanted to leave for profit whats your excuse for this?
We have the same squad at last season with Morata and Abraham replacing Giroud and Pavlovic replacing Kjaer + bonus signings like Fofana and Emerson who might help. We are good enough for a strong top 4 finish. It is a bit silly that people panic and question everything. It may very well be that Fonseca is a bad (fitting) coach, but that happens, Maldini also picked Giampaolo. Maybe people are also shocked that Pioli is not the Antichrist and at fault for all problems at the club, but who believed that should take a hard look at himself before looking at RedBird.
this is the only fanbase in the world that acts like the world is over when Milan loses 1 game Look at Chelsea fans for example, they are still overhyping themselves to the moon even though they literally havent been relevant for almost 3 years now.
For me this team lacks that scouting which maldini and his team had which was in my eyes very elite for whatever the circumstances we have had during those elliot days.we need to bring some aspects of it if we really need to succeed back to the top I think a lot of people really underestimate the lack of our stadium ownership and i feel this is one reason for now Juventus will be ahead of most serie a teams (even us and inter ) because they will always have a better self sustainability within the organization and its structures. I feel a lot of people here are over hating on zlatan and really defending the likes furlani ,Moncada who are really involved with who comes in out of the club
Current players in Milan doesn't want to run transition from one box to other is so slow that they always caught on counters, camaraderie btw them also missing, Fonseca should opt for safety first rather on pressing high
Points after 4-5 matches don't affect me as I don't have high hopes of scudetto during the manager's 1st season. But, the problems are the same- RB is a ? proper DM is a ? The playstyle seems unchanged although admittedly it will take time to change this. Camarda integration alongside liberalli and zeroli seems like a good project for the future, but see what's happened chaka and simic. Also I hope I'm wrong but kalulu can't be worse than Emerson given his defensive versatility. God forbid we're one theo injury away from the whole formation change. As for revenue we simply aren't Milan of old, spending too much didn't help at all in the banter era but we also are the worst at selling players. Most managements are there for money and don't want to take risks if their assets(our club) are sailing smoothly(top4), so they just want to ensure we get UCL consistently. Winning the scudetto has set an example to win without spending big but they need to understand that those were special circumstances Give the coach some time and renew key contracts.
I think Red Bird's goal is focused on... Building a special stadium in the San Duanto area so that Milan can achieve sustainable profits like Juventus. The positive part that they did was the opening of Milan Futaro. ❤❤❤
I will be patient with Fonseca and management as well, but Fonseca needs to start getting wins. I agree with Rohit about the Saudi rumors because with the Italian press they will tend to throw out these rumors into the public domain with no substance or evidence whatsoever for clicks and views. The only way that we will know about a possible new ownership, whether it’s the Saudis or someone else, is if an offer is placed on the table.
They gave Fonseca a two-year deal with an option for a third. If they had a plan or project, it would have been a 4-year deal with an option for a 5th year.
Great discussion Kush. Alex and Rohit compliment each other in this video perfectly. Alex is the heart, Rohit the head. As a fan of course I want to win but my head says at what cost. It is not possible for a team earning 150m to consistently compete with clubs that earn +500m. There are so many issues that block this gain. The stadium story is one, the league structure another. Redbird is a good owner for our current situation. I think RB saw the potential for big gains when they bought the club. They think there is potential to flip the club if they do the work to make it attractive to very rich potential buyers. - If they get the books in order year after year - If they set up a solid player path (to the first team or to sell young players) - Get the stadium up and running - Continue to make CL and thus be one of the top clubs in the country If this is all done the club would be much more attractive to buy.
Milan’s revenues amount to 457 milions. The thing is that we can spend like a club with revenues at 200 because the ownership is probably siphoning money out of the club
If Paulo Fonseca doesn't get us good results for Milan after the next couple of games, I believe that the duration of him as manager should be called into question. #forzamilan
Sarri on milan: "“They can have a positive evolution, the squad is strong .” When asked about the appeal of some Rossoneri fans to see him on the bench of their club, he replies: “It seems bad to talk about it at this time, it requires respect . Fonseca is a good coach and a high-level man . I met him in person: he is at the beginning of a journey and it is right that he stays calm .”"
I always think it’s strange that people want to “go back” to how Milan was. I get the sentiment. But when you look at the facts of the situation then I don’t really see how you want to repeat that. Berlusconi won titles at the expense of the club’s future. It’s undoubtedly true that the decade of mediocrity we saw up until Elliot was a direct result of Berlusconi’s investments. If we “go back” we will surely find ourselves in a deep hole in the future. And we have to remember that Berlusconi came in during a time where Milan were in and out of the Serie B. Berlusconi came to Milan because he saw it as an investment opportunity to build his own power in Italy. When the club wasn’t serving him anymore he dumped Milan with a ton of debt. Thats my suspicion anyways. Milan is much different than that of the past due to its position within the league, Italy and Europe in general. Italian football isn’t what it used to be. Italy isn’t what it used to be. I can understand that people don’t look that deep and don’t understand the context the club sits in but I feel if someone is willing to step in front of a camera and vent about their ideas on the club then they should do some more homework to better contextualize their views. It is what it is, and perhaps that even with all the same data they might still come to their original conclusions. One of your guests was fantastic with his historical analysis. I’m an American and the whole maga crowd gives the same vibes with the “going back.” “Make America great again” is a longing to “go back” but I find that view also lacks the historical contextualizing that makes that idea impossible and nonsensical. That comparison is just sort of a side note. To me, I don’t focus so much on the past. It’s a sort of implicit notion I have that the past has passed and there’s no going back. What exists is repetition and how things come back into our lives while simultaneously being different. So as a fan of Milan I want the repetition of glory and winning and star players and all this. But I know that those repetitions have to come back into being differently than they had to last time. The future never repeats the past perfectly, it’s always a little different. And I want that difference because we saw how the results of the past created the period of mediocrity we are still battling. Redbird has definitely made some mistakes but I think things are still going in a good direction. And either way, if they want to increase the value of the club to sell it then one of the best ways to do that is to sign good players and win titles. The player values increase, the revenue increases from prize winnings, there’s more sponsors, etc etc. So there’s not much conflict in the idea of wanting to make profits from selling the club and a winning mentality. As long as the investors aren’t making dividends from the club then I’m fine with the idea.
You can't look good and be broke... Which I understand from the management view.... But to be a marketable product you have to be competitive.... So not only coming in top four but at least look competitive...
If Alex is so smart, then what is he doing on TH-cam and commenting on people who have been in the football and management space for so long and have a proper successful career there? He is too negative for me. It's too early to comment on anything. Kush and Rohit have more valid points and take a broader view of the situation. I like them more. Great video.
I think we should’ve gone all in for Gyökeres this season just to match the Striker quality of Inter. I think you could’ve got him for around 60 mil. since no other club seemed to really be interested in him. Next summer you will surely have to pay around a 80-90 mil. and the competition of signing him will be too big.
You know we had a sustainable structure under Elliot right? Maldini had little to nothing to spend relying on Loan + Option to buy for the most part. It's the organisation. Red Bird is an inferior organisation to Elliot and it shows.
They will build the stadium or buy san siro and they will sell. They won’t spend too much, but just enough to still be competitive in series a. Simply as that
Bro let me tell you something, the issue is that this coach is pushing for a 4321 formation even if he doesn’t have the right players for that formation- if you want to play it you need a remarkable AM and two holding midfielders with a lot of work rate .. just play a 343 - Gabbia was our best cb last year; yet his on the bench: just play tomori gabbia Pavlovic Rwb Tijani fofana theo Puli. St. RAF.
Three games not too early because the team is disorganized. If he doesn't understand why thats bad we're going to have a long year. There has been enough time for him to get the defense organized.
Can already tell AC Milan's defense is going to suck. The team is going to be passive. If we can finish in fourth we'll be lucky. We weren't the top team last year but were fun to watch at least
The reason why we conseiled 6 goals from the right back is because our defenders were playing too high.. it was almost like they were playing as a midfielder 😂😅 edit: we need to play 442 or 433
At least even though he can't win yet, Fonseca should be able to convince us through a better game system progression from week 1 to 2 to 3. And he didn't deliver that. It's what makes us lose faith in fonseca! This downfall performance is come too early!
Milan always can succeed with RedBird or other ownership but they must stop the idea of the data analysis and money ball idea and bring more Italian players and must definitely bring back to us our king Maldini
It may work if they want to play 433 and play with an alternative play with him and pulisic interchanging wing. But the most important thing is to put Reijnders higher up the field
I have to say few things....will be put serially... 1. Fonseca is a good choice for me, because we have lot of young players, yes he is kind of yes sir coach, but he have desire to bench any player who is not serious. 2. We have Moncada problem, apart Mbappe, he did nothing. 3. Market was a mass, Chiesa was available for less expensive thn Emerson Royal, and could do better thn Royal in RB positions. 4. FFP have nothing to do with Milan, it's just a scam, where do Milan spends?? 5. RedBird is wasting money on Hollywood project, though I like thm, but to me you should put Analyst as Head of everything, Jack Ryan is a myth, Moncada is not Jack Ryan. 6. Milan put 22 players in UCL list, me in Bangladesh knows UCL squad needs 4 Youth & 4 Homegrown players to be listed, still Moncada doesn't care...so blame the coach
I agree with Alex. Even if this MGMT focuses on sustainability, why do they hire mediocre coaches like Fonseca? Why do they need a yes man? Elliot did much better, their budget situation was even worse, but at least they got the right team, DS etc behind the team. And that got us our first schudetto after a decade. Why did we let go of Tonali and get such BS players like musah, RLC? We have no leadership in the team. We are buying bets and most of them are flops besides a few. This team at least deserves a proper DS. And yes you can be ambitious and still fight for trophies
I recognize Redbird just want to sell the club for a profit, if winning comes with it nice, if not at least play UCL is ok to not devalue the club, so as fan that's no necessarily the kind of owner we want, but claiming that Maldini is our savior it's a little too much, he let expensive players go away for free, because he just believed them, that shows lack of awareness of the business side of the team and he also went fot underwhelming signings as the good ones, not a home run like people now is trying to make us believe. Maldini position would be great as a bridge between the management and the players and also as an asser to convince players to come, nor being the only person in charge of football operation
Emerson has no defensive awareness Milan did no scouting on this player we all want to see players good enough for overtaking the starters in the first team good thing there is a few youngsters who can break into the squad in the near future this ownership is here for sorting Milan's finances and to sell club for profit I knew this from early signs in Redbirds reign
Whaaaaat firing the coach that placed second last season and won a scudetto might have been a bad idea? You don’t say. Joke of a club keep watching the coach you fired rack up titles at Real Madrid and your biggest rival rack up league titles over you because they don’t toss out the baby with the bath water every season.
We want Legend Paolo Maldini back home,,For better performance than this Discouraging performance and so called Management team Coach...w're infore previous AC MILAN ❤
Maldini wasn't here last year and the team did fine enough. 2nd place. Maldini was here two years ago and we ended up 5th, saved by Juventus' Uefa penalty. Maldini's effect on player motivation is greatly exaggerated.
Exactly Oli, we can’t forget that Maldini made his share of bad signings like Ballo-Toure, Origi, Sergino Dest, Origi, De Ketelare and he’s also the same technical director who along with Massara hired Giampaolo.
You know so many people criticize Cardinale. All the time, all we ever hear is America this America that. Brass tax bare facts. America has the best businessmen in the world period. No other country comes close in the last 100 years. What we fail to do is give Cardinale respect. He is the equivalent of a top 10 player in any league in the business realm. He is an unsung hero. Rohits point is exactly what Cardinale touched on in all his interviews. Serie A is behind La Liga and the Premiere League and it is literally because of poor policies for business operations in Italy. There is so much red tape that it is difficult to get the league where it needs to be on the international market. Cardinale is a business sports entertainment guru. He called it, we need to have a service that offers serie in a format to the rest of the world like the prem leauge does and la liga does. Because if we really look at it pound for pound the Italian league is more competitive than the prem and definitely is more competitive than La Liga. However our streaming services, the technology, the advertising and marketing. On a whole it has not advanced in the way the prem has into different spaces in the larger football business ecosystem. Cardinale is right what economic model do you know that is sustainable in which you just spend and spend and spend even when you are in a deficit. That will upend the whole game as we know it in terms of the platform for competition. The saudi model as I like to call it, where you have so much oil and gas money that you can just throw money at your problems unfortunately does not last forever. NUFC, PSG, Man City. What they have is not sustainable. It is attractive right now but the foundation is missing. I believe that AC Milan dug itself into such a deep hole that we are now as of this year at ground 0 and to move up Cardinale and his team need time. We may not win this year or the next but for us to be like Liverpool we need to trust in what Cardinale is doing because it took them yearsssss before they even won a champions league and the prem. So thank you Rohit for bringing a balanced take to this chaos that is going on. Also Fonseca may just surprise us, its 3 games. Given all the factors give the man 2 seasons. Don’t be foolish, it shows that most of you have never played a competitive team sport in your life. Yet you comment like you know how exactly how to address these complex issues.
red bird isnt a good ownership buy bad manager like fonseca buys bad player like emerson royal havent talk about calabria about a new contract meanwhile rlc and origi earns more and th useless rb emerson while calabria only wants like 3 million
Bro I told you months ago that by November, Fonseca will be sacked. The second Cardinale fired Maldini (for asking in public for a larger budget), I knew these guys are clowns.I’ve been writing the last year and a half that Cardinale and all Yankees have no idea what European football is all about. You CANT treat ACM as if they are a funny baseball team…The sooner people realise, the better for ACM. I’ve been watching Milan since 1988, THIS IS NOT MILAN #redbirdout #cardinaleout
Could somebody explain what a club like atletico Madrid are doing that Milan can’t compete. I just don’t like the overall vision of the club needs to be more excitement at the club giroud and morata are not exciting players.
If your going with history how Ancelotti got a slow start how Pioli got a slow start how Allegri got a slow start..how about the history that we haven't won with a foreign cosach in 40 years..that's the disturbing part. Carindale the loser out
The problem is definelty redbird, from scudetto to 5th place, from gadzidis to furlani, from maldini to ibra, from massara to moncada and we still missing a DS, from end of pioli era directly back to Giampaolo era pre pioli, basically a downgrade in every single thing, the only good thing redbird did is Milan futuro but even there 1 good thing out of 100 wrong so can't be an excuse for the bad job, all the experience gained until scudetto they did throw it away becouse they prefer money, finances are already good the only thing that redbird is building is the profit out of the money that cardinale have to give back to elliot
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i pray that maldini gets his opportunity to take the throne at milan
THE RETURN OF THE KING 👑
All the real rossoneri praying with you bro!🙏🏼♥️🖤
RedBird has raised the team out of horrible finances. I so funny how quickly fans turn. All we need is Saudi owners? Come on.
@@LaVerdad2 How quickly fans turn? What do you expect, our management is afraid to spend the big dollars on big players, instead were spending 15-20mil on mediocre players, besidesm fofana and pavlovic who are obviously not mediocre. No one was ever happy with RedBird as our owners, nothing new has changed.
@@forzamiIano so Reinders, RLC, and Pulisic didn’t add a lot to the team last year? Pavlovic has looked great, and Tammy comes in immediate contribution, and same with Morata the starting Forward for the champions Spain. We don’t have the timeframe to make a decision yet. They were handed a team in collapse and Maldini made big mistakes as well.
I didnt expect a collab with Alex, I have been watching him since he opened his channel and I love how he talks after milan games where we lose.
I agree! Happy Alex is getting more air time. He has a lot to contribute.
Maldini we need you, please come back my idol👑
Finally we get the awaited Kush and Keralista collab. For me Alex is more of a typical fairweather fan, twitter and reddit is filled with fans who just rant about RedBird all the time and rarely talk about Milan and its problems, probably still upset due to Maldini getting sacked.
I mean if there are statements like “I would be OK if Conte and De Zerbi were managers with worse performances” then is there really any thoughts behind the opinion?
But thanks a lot Kush, I guess we won’t always find people who share our views within our Milan family but we all will be viewing the journey of our club together.
Alex is like a tabloid headline. Keralista is the full article. 🤌
Yes, the long awaited collab, we'll be doing this more and more!
So. I think Alex's point was that we would feel differently about poor starts with the other managers because they would be a bit more proven and we would have more optimism in spite of poor results, but with Fonseca there's immediate concern.
Thank you for watching my friend! We are in this together for sure 😅
I am Italian and the perception that most fans have here (and I guess Alex included) is that having those managers like Conte or De Zerbi even with a worse performance would still be a sign of ambition, simply because of the fact that you signed coaches that have a winning mentality or bring innovation in the way they play. You can clearly see this in Juventus for example, as they just signed Thiago Motta after having a coach like Allegri who seemed content in proposing a type of football that was stubborn and not really working well for the team he had. It gives a sense of ambition and wanting to build something that works.
With the choice of Fonseca instead, supporters will not have any patience because they see this decision as mediocre from the very start, for a coach who never won anything and who would be ok in performing average.
@@elianiccolini802 my point is exactly this, that fans don’t know any better they are just reactive and used to the old Italian ways of marquee signings and flashy announcements which is why except for a select few coaches the whole Europe takes Italian football as a joke.
De Zerbi hasn’t even done anything, just hyped by the media but his team finished 10th and no one offered him a job except Marseille who by the way also wanted Fonseca first.
How many coaches have Juve changed? Pirlo, Sarri, Allegri, now they have Motta and let me tell you fans reacted the same way for Pirlo and Sarri when they joined.
Inter fans wanted Inzaghi out in the middle of his second season, their management didn’t listen to the fans and look what happened.
@@aniketmisra9845 It's just a matter of ambition in the end, and the matches we continue to have (just look at Venezia and Liverpool) are simply disgraceful.
We don't even need flashy signings at this point, but a management that knows a tiny bit of football and makes logical decisions.
Fonseca is a mediocre decision and management did not even make a mercato to follow his style of play and tactics, I feel sorry for him.
I agree with you that sometimes fans just are overreacting and management does not need to listen, but this is a case where they must, as the situation has been pretty bad ever since we won the last scudetto. Only team in Italy to not have a Sports Manager, this is pretty shameful...
By the way great conversation from my favorite Indian Rohit bhai, also Alex & Kush ❤️🖤❤️
Big up on getting Rohit Bhai! ❤
It was so important to look at the financial sustainability from rohits side. We cant expect the owner to pump money Everytime.
milan has so many youth players like jiminez, zeroli , camarada.liberali,torraino ... i want to see them integrated into the main team.... its sustainable and we would be competitive
The indian guy hit the truth about changing to many players.
Great editing and cutting between the two conversations!
Brilliant video Kush.
Alex - Italian football
Good job Kush. Thank you. Forza Milan!
Awesome video Kush, really enjoyed it. Just wanted to make a quick point about Maldini and his ghost that still haunts us. I love Maldini, hes a Milan legend. But please lets not forget that all of his many many blunders. All the players we missed out on, Origi over Dybala, Ballo Toure, Dest, Vranx, spending the entire summer chasing CDK instead of filling out the positions we actually needed players for, all the players we let go for free, the list goes on and on. Its understandable that after the CDK summer that he wouldnt be trusted with the amount of power he had till that moment. But he could have stayed on in a slightly lesser role. He didnt accept that. The mans a legend who did incredible things, but he clearly needed help and he clearly wasnt listening to his scouting department or anyone really when he was making some of these decisions. Origi over Dybala reminds me of when we messed up the Tevez deal and ended up going for Matri.... Disaster.
And yet we won a scudetto with Maldini. And look at all the average players we have signed since Maldini left. The only player worth anything is Pulisic.
How much did those players cost (other than CDK)? How much did Emerson Royal, Musah, RLC, Chuckwueze, Okafor, Pavlovic etc etc cost? Do the math
This year just continues to get better.
Been a subscriber to Milan's premium TH-cam channel for almost 3 years. Get a message abruptly saying we would be refunded for September and that the channel was being shut down...
I honestly have no clue what this ownership is doing right now. Practically ripping apart all of the positive things the old ownership / management brought to this evolving club.
According to reactionary online fans everything is already over and Milan sucks because Maldini isnt here anymore
This is a ridiculous online fanbase in comparison to anyone else, its like being negative brings them pleasure and they all start salivating with their twitter/social media posts whenever Milan faces a tough time
Rohit is also the only person i've seen who actually knows about Milan's 3 year settlement agreement with UEFA, literally everyone else ignores it, calls it a non-issue.
Right?! We didn’t play in the Europa league a few years ago when we qualified as a way to negotiate being allowed to play in the UCL proper the next season, given we qualified and we did. The finances are teetering on the edge at Milan and a wrong step means not playing in Europe which would cause even more financial problems.
@@kylerodd2342 seems like paitence is like non-existent with almost everyone nowadays they want the club to be run like how the Chinese did it, rush rush and then fall face down again and get banned by UEFA
@Freestyle80
While it’s true that we are under settlement agreement, our settlement agreement allows us to have an aggregate deficit of up to €60 million during the monitoring period (from 2022/2023 to 2025/2026, when UEFA will conduct its review). So far, we are at +€10 million, meaning we have an investment margin that has been deliberately left unused. And this says an awful lot about the intentions of our ownership, imho.
Not to mention that of our squad cost or ridiculously low compared to our revenues and yet we barely made a profit (+4 balance sheet). Why? Because we have incredibly high extra sporting post (search in Italian “il grande inganno di Redbird” from the journalist Paolo Ziliani and the translate it with google translate, it will explain a lot) because our ownership is probably siphoning money out of the club
Thanks for this awesome episode. Really great to see both perspectives on the financials/management. Great to see Alex here as well. His channel is 🔥
Rohit is a gem, really interesting to listen too. Alex D in contrast comes across as not having a single original stance, just parroting the most mainstream Milan opinions. Maybe he is scared to loose viewers but I was considering skipping him a couple of times.
Alex's viewership is clearly the teenage kids that want their transfer dopamine and dont actually care about football
Great video! 👏
Oh my god thank you so muchhh I always wanted more of your opinions on things and more indept videos I am feasting with this 40 min vid
I will give you a straight answer to the question. NO. And to those of you who listened to some analyst who believed and agreed that firing Maldini was a good move, you are partly responsible for enabling/backing this ownership to this day. We are dealing with incompetence and arrogance of the highest order. Milan 2024 bears no resemblance to the club I started to follow in the 1980s. It lacks ANY sporting ambition and humility. The owners lie and transmit those lies via their yes man coach and inept managerial team to the fans. Milan today is nothing short of an embarrassment. I hope the 50M American fans buy plenty of that overpriced Yankees/Milan paraphernalia so that Redbird can win the balance sheet trophy for a third year running.
Great video Kush, you really did a great job moderating and making the collab work, it was engaging and insightful
Big up from Italy guys💪
WOOOW 40 minutes !!! Okay. Let's have a look!
Wow, @footballkush So much covered and I LOVE IT. There is so much here and so much I disagree with, particularly with Alex's points. This is a long one 👇
About Fonseca: The "yes man" narrative is just nonsense. This is a coach who had a lot of influence on Lille and Shaktar. We talk also talk about De Zerbi as if he ever won more than Fonseca. It's Italian preference and quite frankly I'm tired of it.
About the Mercato: We got 2 new strikers and one central midfielder with good defensive attributes, a killer center back and a WTF signing at right back. But to me our sales are where sh*t really hits the fan. Simic is a decent sale, but we still have Ballo-Touré and Origi. What was the point in having Sael in the squad if he would be sold right after? Why do we still have Musah and Bennacer? All our "unwanted departures" are loans.
I'll add that we also do far too many changes each season. We don't do enough core to build on each year. That has to change. A true sporting vision and identity would help.
About Redbird & Management: They want a return on their investment and the only way they can do that is grow and winning is part of that strategy. You ain't getting that by doing just OK... so again, the Italians prefer their own. Antonio D'Ottavio is Sporting director but sure, it's as if we didn't have any.
I also really want us to stop deifying Berlusconi. 45% of is ability was due to his influence in politics and media. Another 45% was due to the league's standing. The last 10 was due to his passion that lead to pretty sketchy sh*t over the years. And let's not forget that he used and sold the club to fund his politics... We should grow up a bit and leave that time behind us. Yes things aren't great right now but I think we are still headed in the right direction.
About Maldini: If he is needed to motivate players, then we should sell those players. If you need who needs Papa to perform your place isn't at Milan, at least not in the first team. I love Theo and Leao and I hope this "they miss Maldini" narrative is utter nonsense. If it turns out true, then I would pack their bags my self and hope Theo never makes les bleus again. These men are adults and we really need to stop deifying Maldini.
I'll just end with this: We need to copy was Real Madrid is doing and do one better. Futuro is part of that but let's hope these kids have a pathway to the first team. Milan needs to be bigger than just a club and for everyone to succeed need success on the pitch.
Again, awesome vid! Amazing work man !
Kush is really trying
My goodness, you dropped some serious takes here. There's a lot to address but I'd have to say:
Fonseca's only way to get into Milan fans right light is through results, he'll keep getting questioned by fans until he delivers and I believe he has the squad to give better results than the first three games, so let's see.
Mercato incomings were decent, outgoings were a mess. I am okay with giving Musah some time though, Isma's time is over now.
Interesting take on RedBird and Silvio 👌🏼
I think the influence of Maldini and others in the training matters but their absence shouldn't shift performances to the negative. That is true!
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@@footballkush Big video, big comment ! Awesome stuff, man!
The most upsetting thing is the realization that we can no longer be in the scudetto conversation. The question now is, how can we make sure we secure a Champions League position this season. We know we have a team that can reach a Champions position, however, I don’t know if Fonseca will help us reach that.
I'm definitely watching this because of Rohit 🎉 @keralista 😘❣️ lots of love to you 😊❣️ #bigfan
Based on everything I can see: Ibra is a representative of Redbird and acts between the club, the media, and the players on their behalf. Furlani handles negotiations and finances more broadly, while Moncada sets the targets for furlani to negotiate with and how he values them. Cardinale handles investment into the club and long term vision for the stadium project and sets the agenda for commercial ambitions, as well as providing ancillary support for the recruitment structure through Zelus analytics.
Okay but you could have taken the bargain on Morata. Signed Zirkzee. And Camarda and Zirkzee could be the long term project as I think they compliment each other on paper
Very good insightful video
When their first action is to fire a club legend when things only got better after he’d returned, I say no
yeah because AC Milan has only 1 club legend in his entire history, who is Baresi? Just a sh*t player according to you
@@Freestyle80 🤦🏻♂️👍
Zlatan is just a meh player for Milan definitely didn't win Titles. Maldini is the only player who matters
@@wuxiagamescentral no zlatan won 2 league titles for milan scoring 8 goals in serie a in 2021-22 and in 2010/11 got 14 goals and 12 assist and in 2011/12 got 28 goals and 7 assist
@Freestyle80
Baresi is and will always be one of the greatest legends of the club alongside Maldini and Rivera. The fact remains that he has always been obedient even to the worst ownerships and in the 2018 he “guaranteed” for the financial power of Yongong Li
Rohit my boy!! ❤️
I've watched Gerry and his team talk. I have full faith in their project. It's rare that owners are fans...but he is honest in his approach and wants to win both financially and competitively. Remember, it's more profitable and better for business reputation to win major trophies.!!!..yes, they are trying to crack the code to get it right (within their budget, which is the challenge). Let's wait 6 months then we will know for sure. Forza Milan ❤🖤❤🖤 I'm a soccer guy but I'm also a money guy and this project excites me in all aspects. In an ideal world we need ANCELLOTTI back...but it's not an ideal world, so we grind!!!!
I completely agree! Especially on your ancelotti take, since he represents the last great Milan. I don’t think he will come though, he’s 65 and his contract with Real expires in 2026. I think he will retire after when his contract expires.
He has been honest about revalue and resale.
Cardinale didn't knew Milan won 7 UCL, how can anyone believes he is a fan
@@sms1158 Exactly!! Owners are not fans, its a business venture obviously
I actually know one of the lawyers at RedBird. According to him, the fund is broke and doesn’t have enough money to sustain a football club. Most of the group think they should sell as it makes no sense why they have the asset. Could totally see them selling if a good offer comes
Milan missed out on a big opportunity when Elliot management chose redbird as the next owners instead of investcorp.
First and foremost great episode 👏👏👏 getting other true Ac milan fans on 👍.
Just a few things however with regards some of their comments.
Owners of lazio back in 2001 were parmalat a global dairy company who at that time had both lazio and parma and were let's just say a little corrupte and regards spending made no difference to there plite as they were going to suffer because they were owned by the mafia .
Florentino perez has kept Real Madrid afloat for decades in fact back in the day he was investigate by the Spanish government for getting his hands on EU bail out money to fund Madrid so yes they make money because they are dominant on a global scale but large parts of that still come from Perez among others.
Interesting one of your guests said that Berlusconi gave him nightmares😂 I'm sure there are individually people who he gave nightmares to but not an Ac milan fan.
Sadly with regards to Berlusconi all you said was how he just threw millions at it but failed to mention how he transformed the club in world leaders with regards to sport science coaching scouting something which this current management never speak of.
Now with regards to finance debt is part of football all ways has been and will be.
Take the cash cow of the epl or as it turns out not due to clubs being punished for over spending Man City having over a 100 charges against them for that very reason.
FFP was and is the death nail of Italian football creating what is in plain sight an EUROPEAN SUPER LEAGUE England Spain Germany and Paris where the rules of FFP don't exist that's why Man City won't face punishment in any way short or form and nither will Barca who's in debt to the tune of 1.6 billion.
Ask any Barca fan what gives them nightmares today there debt or becoming Ac milan.
As for the future I've watched Italian football and Ac milan for over 30 years and right now things are not good on both fronts and I can only hope that something anything positive happens soon and with regards the coach and the players I don't blame them I blame the people who appointed them and continue to use them.
Nice video! I personally think RedBird is just waiting the stadium to sell the club for a high profit.
do not think we will return to the top until we have a new ownership group. Red Bird has done well with the commercial side, futuro and building the stadium. Sporting wise they are not ambitious and we have downgraded in sporting staff going from Maldini and Massara to Moncada etc l. You can tell they are happy for maintaining top 4 until stadium is done. The hire of Fonseca proofs this.
and hiring someone like De Zerbi or Conte who no one wants would've proved that they wanted the title?
Explain that logic
@@Freestyle80 I did not want conte I wanted Conceincao Fonseca is a marginal upgrade on Pioli if that. Plus signing players like Emerson does not help their unambtious in sporting side
@@Flamboy0911 Coincencao is still jobless and he plays a style that Milan has never played in their history, defensive 3-5-2 football. Why would they bring him in? That would've meant signing new Wingbacks more CBs and more b2b mids and probably go after someone like Lukaku.
Not realistic at all. Also that guy only ever won in Portugal, how is that so different from Fonesca?
@Freestyle80
Explain the logic that tells why Milan despite enormously higher revenues than Napoli cannot spend even a fraction of what Napoli spends on players and coaches
@@SmellslikeTeenspirit-f3e your beloved Maldini let 4 players worth around 200m go for free while Napoli in that same time was able to sell their stars who wanted to leave for profit
whats your excuse for this?
We have the same squad at last season with Morata and Abraham replacing Giroud and Pavlovic replacing Kjaer + bonus signings like Fofana and Emerson who might help. We are good enough for a strong top 4 finish.
It is a bit silly that people panic and question everything. It may very well be that Fonseca is a bad (fitting) coach, but that happens, Maldini also picked Giampaolo. Maybe people are also shocked that Pioli is not the Antichrist and at fault for all problems at the club, but who believed that should take a hard look at himself before looking at RedBird.
this is the only fanbase in the world that acts like the world is over when Milan loses 1 game
Look at Chelsea fans for example, they are still overhyping themselves to the moon even though they literally havent been relevant for almost 3 years now.
For me this team lacks that scouting which maldini and his team had which was in my eyes very elite for whatever the circumstances we have had during those elliot days.we need to bring some aspects of it if we really need to succeed back to the top
I think a lot of people really underestimate the lack of our stadium ownership and i feel this is one reason for now Juventus will be ahead of most serie a teams (even us and inter ) because they will always have a better self sustainability within the organization and its structures.
I feel a lot of people here are over hating on zlatan and really defending the likes furlani ,Moncada who are really involved with who comes in out of the club
Current players in Milan doesn't want to run transition from one box to other is so slow that they always caught on counters, camaraderie btw them also missing, Fonseca should opt for safety first rather on pressing high
Points after 4-5 matches don't affect me as I don't have high hopes of scudetto during the manager's 1st season. But, the problems are the same- RB is a ? proper DM is a ? The playstyle seems unchanged although admittedly it will take time to change this.
Camarda integration alongside liberalli and zeroli seems like a good project for the future, but see what's happened chaka and simic. Also I hope I'm wrong but kalulu can't be worse than Emerson given his defensive versatility. God forbid we're one theo injury away from the whole formation change.
As for revenue we simply aren't Milan of old, spending too much didn't help at all in the banter era but we also are the worst at selling players. Most managements are there for money and don't want to take risks if their assets(our club) are sailing smoothly(top4), so they just want to ensure we get UCL consistently. Winning the scudetto has set an example to win without spending big but they need to understand that those were special circumstances
Give the coach some time and renew key contracts.
Our revenues amount to 457 millions.
I think Red Bird's goal is focused on... Building a special stadium in the San Duanto area so that Milan can achieve sustainable profits like Juventus. The positive part that they did was the opening of Milan Futaro. ❤❤❤
How do you not have 50k subs
I will be patient with Fonseca and management as well, but Fonseca needs to start getting wins. I agree with Rohit about the Saudi rumors because with the Italian press they will tend to throw out these rumors into the public domain with no substance or evidence whatsoever for clicks and views. The only way that we will know about a possible new ownership, whether it’s the Saudis or someone else, is if an offer is placed on the table.
They gave Fonseca a two-year deal with an option for a third. If they had a plan or project, it would have been a 4-year deal with an option for a 5th year.
Alex dropping factos
Great discussion Kush. Alex and Rohit compliment each other in this video perfectly. Alex is the heart, Rohit the head.
As a fan of course I want to win but my head says at what cost. It is not possible for a team earning 150m to consistently compete with clubs that earn +500m. There are so many issues that block this gain. The stadium story is one, the league structure another.
Redbird is a good owner for our current situation. I think RB saw the potential for big gains when they bought the club. They think there is potential to flip the club if they do the work to make it attractive to very rich potential buyers.
- If they get the books in order year after year
- If they set up a solid player path (to the first team or to sell young players)
- Get the stadium up and running
- Continue to make CL and thus be one of the top clubs in the country
If this is all done the club would be much more attractive to buy.
Milan’s revenues amount to 457 milions. The thing is that we can spend like a club with revenues at 200 because the ownership is probably siphoning money out of the club
Great video, imo redbird need luck for milan to win another scudetto like the one under eliott management.
If Paulo Fonseca doesn't get us good results for Milan after the next couple of games, I believe that the duration of him as manager should be called into question.
#forzamilan
Sarri on milan: "“They can have a positive evolution, the squad is strong .” When asked about the appeal of some Rossoneri fans to see him on the bench of their club, he replies: “It seems bad to talk about it at this time, it requires respect . Fonseca is a good coach and a high-level man . I met him in person: he is at the beginning of a journey and it is right that he stays calm .”"
I think what we've learned is that to succeed with moneyball... You need to have a better understanding of the sport than your competition
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I always think it’s strange that people want to “go back” to how Milan was. I get the sentiment. But when you look at the facts of the situation then I don’t really see how you want to repeat that. Berlusconi won titles at the expense of the club’s future. It’s undoubtedly true that the decade of mediocrity we saw up until Elliot was a direct result of Berlusconi’s investments. If we “go back” we will surely find ourselves in a deep hole in the future. And we have to remember that Berlusconi came in during a time where Milan were in and out of the Serie B. Berlusconi came to Milan because he saw it as an investment opportunity to build his own power in Italy. When the club wasn’t serving him anymore he dumped Milan with a ton of debt. Thats my suspicion anyways.
Milan is much different than that of the past due to its position within the league, Italy and Europe in general. Italian football isn’t what it used to be. Italy isn’t what it used to be. I can understand that people don’t look that deep and don’t understand the context the club sits in but I feel if someone is willing to step in front of a camera and vent about their ideas on the club then they should do some more homework to better contextualize their views. It is what it is, and perhaps that even with all the same data they might still come to their original conclusions. One of your guests was fantastic with his historical analysis.
I’m an American and the whole maga crowd gives the same vibes with the “going back.” “Make America great again” is a longing to “go back” but I find that view also lacks the historical contextualizing that makes that idea impossible and nonsensical. That comparison is just sort of a side note.
To me, I don’t focus so much on the past. It’s a sort of implicit notion I have that the past has passed and there’s no going back. What exists is repetition and how things come back into our lives while simultaneously being different. So as a fan of Milan I want the repetition of glory and winning and star players and all this. But I know that those repetitions have to come back into being differently than they had to last time. The future never repeats the past perfectly, it’s always a little different. And I want that difference because we saw how the results of the past created the period of mediocrity we are still battling.
Redbird has definitely made some mistakes but I think things are still going in a good direction. And either way, if they want to increase the value of the club to sell it then one of the best ways to do that is to sign good players and win titles. The player values increase, the revenue increases from prize winnings, there’s more sponsors, etc etc. So there’s not much conflict in the idea of wanting to make profits from selling the club and a winning mentality. As long as the investors aren’t making dividends from the club then I’m fine with the idea.
Conte, De Zerbi, even Sarri. What’re y’all doing
Hopefully redbird sell the club sooner then later. They dont know what they're doing. Moncada and Furlani are 2 inept clowns.
16:16 Spot on! Cardinale and Furlani especially don’t care about AC Milan at all, they just want money
You can't look good and be broke... Which I understand from the management view.... But to be a marketable product you have to be competitive.... So not only coming in top four but at least look competitive...
If Alex is so smart, then what is he doing on TH-cam and commenting on people who have been in the football and management space for so long and have a proper successful career there? He is too negative for me. It's too early to comment on anything. Kush and Rohit have more valid points and take a broader view of the situation. I like them more. Great video.
Believe 🖤♥️
Milan will never succeed under Red Bird
I think we should’ve gone all in for Gyökeres this season just to match the Striker quality of Inter.
I think you could’ve got him for around 60 mil. since no other club seemed to really be interested in him. Next summer you will surely have to pay around a 80-90 mil. and the competition of signing him will be too big.
You know we had a sustainable structure under Elliot right? Maldini had little to nothing to spend relying on Loan + Option to buy for the most part. It's the organisation. Red Bird is an inferior organisation to Elliot and it shows.
I wish y’all had gotten Reuben Amorim. That’s system would go crazy
They will build the stadium or buy san siro and they will sell. They won’t spend too much, but just enough to still be competitive in series a. Simply as that
Bro let me tell you something, the issue is that this coach is pushing for a 4321 formation even if he doesn’t have the right players for that formation- if you want to play it you need a remarkable AM and two holding midfielders with a lot of work rate .. just play a 343 - Gabbia was our best cb last year; yet his on the bench: just play tomori gabbia Pavlovic
Rwb Tijani fofana theo
Puli. St. RAF.
Three games not too early because the team is disorganized. If he doesn't understand why thats bad we're going to have a long year. There has been enough time for him to get the defense organized.
Can already tell AC Milan's defense is going to suck. The team is going to be passive. If we can finish in fourth we'll be lucky. We weren't the top team last year but were fun to watch at least
The reason why we conseiled 6 goals from the right back is because our defenders were playing too high.. it was almost like they were playing as a midfielder 😂😅
edit: we need to play 442 or 433
At least even though he can't win yet, Fonseca should be able to convince us through a better game system progression from week 1 to 2 to 3. And he didn't deliver that. It's what makes us lose faith in fonseca! This downfall performance is come too early!
Milan always can succeed with RedBird or other ownership but they must stop the idea of the data analysis and money ball idea and bring more Italian players and must definitely bring back to us our king Maldini
Can they play okafor on the right
It may work if they want to play 433 and play with an alternative play with him and pulisic interchanging wing. But the most important thing is to put Reijnders higher up the field
Pioli was very reliable better than average. If he had the right team he could compete for the title.
I kinda preferred when you did these videos alone
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I would give Fonseca more time but Redbird has to go. Those guys offer nothing and they don't know what they're doing.
Prolly yes
I have to say few things....will be put serially...
1. Fonseca is a good choice for me, because we have lot of young players, yes he is kind of yes sir coach, but he have desire to bench any player who is not serious.
2. We have Moncada problem, apart Mbappe, he did nothing.
3. Market was a mass, Chiesa was available for less expensive thn Emerson Royal, and could do better thn Royal in RB positions.
4. FFP have nothing to do with Milan, it's just a scam, where do Milan spends??
5. RedBird is wasting money on Hollywood project, though I like thm, but to me you should put Analyst as Head of everything, Jack Ryan is a myth, Moncada is not Jack Ryan.
6. Milan put 22 players in UCL list, me in Bangladesh knows UCL squad needs 4 Youth & 4 Homegrown players to be listed, still Moncada doesn't care...so blame the coach
Lmfao redbird has done nothing for our finances. Elliot and maldini got us out of debt…. Not red bird
I agree with Alex. Even if this MGMT focuses on sustainability, why do they hire mediocre coaches like Fonseca? Why do they need a yes man? Elliot did much better, their budget situation was even worse, but at least they got the right team, DS etc behind the team. And that got us our first schudetto after a decade. Why did we let go of Tonali and get such BS players like musah, RLC? We have no leadership in the team. We are buying bets and most of them are flops besides a few. This team at least deserves a proper DS. And yes you can be ambitious and still fight for trophies
I recognize Redbird just want to sell the club for a profit, if winning comes with it nice, if not at least play UCL is ok to not devalue the club, so as fan that's no necessarily the kind of owner we want, but claiming that Maldini is our savior it's a little too much, he let expensive players go away for free, because he just believed them, that shows lack of awareness of the business side of the team and he also went fot underwhelming signings as the good ones, not a home run like people now is trying to make us believe.
Maldini position would be great as a bridge between the management and the players and also as an asser to convince players to come, nor being the only person in charge of football operation
Emerson has no defensive awareness Milan did no scouting on this player we all want to see players good enough for overtaking the starters in the first team good thing there is a few youngsters who can break into the squad in the near future this ownership is here for sorting Milan's finances and to sell club for profit I knew this from early signs in Redbirds reign
I wanted Sarri for the vibes 😂👍
Forza Milan 🔴⚫️🔴♾️ , i think our management is confused in every field
Whaaaaat firing the coach that placed second last season and won a scudetto might have been a bad idea? You don’t say. Joke of a club keep watching the coach you fired rack up titles at Real Madrid and your biggest rival rack up league titles over you because they don’t toss out the baby with the bath water every season.
Probably, Redbird will be successful financially but on field, they'll struggle.
We want Legend Paolo Maldini back home,,For better performance than this Discouraging performance and so called Management team Coach...w're infore previous AC MILAN ❤
It was a huge mistake to let go Maldini and Massara.Cardinale just made big mistake.
Who is the assistant coach?
Unfortunately, we became a brand and not a football team… Gerry needs to sell
Pioli should have stayed forever WTF is everyone smoking
Maldini wasn't here last year and the team did fine enough. 2nd place. Maldini was here two years ago and we ended up 5th, saved by Juventus' Uefa penalty. Maldini's effect on player motivation is greatly exaggerated.
Exactly Oli, we can’t forget that Maldini made his share of bad signings like Ballo-Toure, Origi, Sergino Dest, Origi, De Ketelare and he’s also the same technical director who along with Massara hired Giampaolo.
You know so many people criticize Cardinale. All the time, all we ever hear is America this America that. Brass tax bare facts. America has the best businessmen in the world period. No other country comes close in the last 100 years.
What we fail to do is give Cardinale respect. He is the equivalent of a top 10 player in any league in the business realm. He is an unsung hero.
Rohits point is exactly what Cardinale touched on in all his interviews. Serie A is behind La Liga and the Premiere League and it is literally because of poor policies for business operations in Italy. There is so much red tape that it is difficult to get the league where it needs to be on the international market.
Cardinale is a business sports entertainment guru. He called it, we need to have a service that offers serie in a format to the rest of the world like the prem leauge does and la liga does. Because if we really look at it pound for pound the Italian league is more competitive than the prem and definitely is more competitive than La Liga. However our streaming services, the technology, the advertising and marketing. On a whole it has not advanced in the way the prem has into different spaces in the larger football business ecosystem.
Cardinale is right what economic model do you know that is sustainable in which you just spend and spend and spend even when you are in a deficit. That will upend the whole game as we know it in terms of the platform for competition. The saudi model as I like to call it, where you have so much oil and gas money that you can just throw money at your problems unfortunately does not last forever. NUFC, PSG, Man City. What they have is not sustainable. It is attractive right now but the foundation is missing. I believe that AC Milan dug itself into such a deep hole that we are now as of this year at ground 0 and to move up Cardinale and his team need time. We may not win this year or the next but for us to be like Liverpool we need to trust in what Cardinale is doing because it took them yearsssss before they even won a champions league and the prem. So thank you Rohit for bringing a balanced take to this chaos that is going on.
Also Fonseca may just surprise us, its 3 games. Given all the factors give the man 2 seasons. Don’t be foolish, it shows that most of you have never played a competitive team sport in your life. Yet you comment like you know how exactly how to address these complex issues.
red bird isnt a good ownership buy bad manager like fonseca buys bad player like emerson royal havent talk about calabria about a new contract meanwhile rlc and origi earns more and th useless rb emerson while calabria only wants like 3 million
Bring Maldini back!
Easy answer: No!
Bro I told you months ago that by November, Fonseca will be sacked. The second Cardinale fired Maldini (for asking in public for a larger budget), I knew these guys are clowns.I’ve been writing the last year and a half that Cardinale and all Yankees have no idea what European football is all about. You CANT treat ACM as if they are a funny baseball team…The sooner people realise, the better for ACM. I’ve been watching Milan since 1988, THIS IS NOT MILAN #redbirdout #cardinaleout
Could somebody explain what a club like atletico Madrid are doing that Milan can’t compete. I just don’t like the overall vision of the club needs to be more excitement at the club giroud and morata are not exciting players.
Can Milan succeed ❌
Can milan survive ✅
If your going with history how Ancelotti got a slow start how Pioli got a slow start how Allegri got a slow start..how about the history that we haven't won with a foreign cosach in 40 years..that's the disturbing part. Carindale the loser out
Short answer, no.
Milan need a strong manager who will bench Leao for his poor work ethic.
The problem is definelty redbird, from scudetto to 5th place, from gadzidis to furlani, from maldini to ibra, from massara to moncada and we still missing a DS, from end of pioli era directly back to Giampaolo era pre pioli, basically a downgrade in every single thing, the only good thing redbird did is Milan futuro but even there 1 good thing out of 100 wrong so can't be an excuse for the bad job, all the experience gained until scudetto they did throw it away becouse they prefer money, finances are already good the only thing that redbird is building is the profit out of the money that cardinale have to give back to elliot