Victory Vegas vs. Harley-Davidson Dyna Wide Glide Motorcycle Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2010
- Victory Motorcycles has started a pilot program where the manufacturer is providing Harley-Davidson motorcycles to be test ridden back to back with various Victory Motorcycles.
In this video, DSJR70 from TheVOG.net gives his opinions after riding both a 2010 Harley-Davidson Dyna Wide Glide and a 2011 Victory Vegas. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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It cracks me up when people always bring up the resale value of HDs. Some of us buy our bikes to ride the hell out of them, not to sell them..
Admittedly, I have owned 2 Vics and love them. I think that Victory overall make better cycles than just about anyone.
That being said, this video is a bit biased, and is purely subjective on most points.
Ride what ever you want, they make a lot of bikes, choose one and ride.
RoadHunter72 I agree! I never purchased a motorcycle as an investment! Hell ride the nuts off of it, that is what motorcycling is all about!
This Indian rider agrees 100%
Anyone who doesnt see good resale value as a positive doesn’t have a brain.
I’m 5.2 high is victory bobber fits for me
Everything he says sounds like Harley is better...
My thoughts exactly...lol.
IamDarkStar2012 that's cause Harley is better.
HD sounds better, better transmission, more stable at speed, better start up, better fit and finish, he liked the black paint on the engine better, better key position, has fork locks, etc. The only thing he liked better on the Vegas was the position of the kickstand and the design of the swing arm. “I still prefer the Vegas.” You’d think an editor would have caught that and made him come back in for adr to explain himself.
once you get a victory you will NEVER get a lawn mower harley again ....lol
Actions speak lowder than words his owned 4 vegas not 4 harleys.... Harleys are like having grand kids you have fun with em but at the end of the day you dont have to take care of them
I love my 2008 Victory Vegas 8 Ball...super easy to maintain myself and ultra reliable.
Thats a nice bike, enjoy and ride safe.
Dude, you have the same bike I do! That's awesome! I love my bike as well.
Maybe the video isn't doing the bikes any justice, but mine sounds way better than both of them.
What a joke! Let's find some guy that owns three Ford trucks and ask him to take a Chevy for a drive and give us a fair unbiased opinion. Gimme a break!
I agree. I thought Polaris stopped making the Victory and just made the Indian line?
I thought this was a Victory push but based on the conversation the Harley gets the nod over the Victory, even though he said he'd buy the Vegas, I guess he forgot that he actually preferred the Harley, lol. I considered the Victory but bought a slightly modified 2009 Harley Davidson Night Train and don't regret it, it's a keeper. Ride safe.
Funny how the only complaints he has about the Harley are the signature Harley things. The shake, wide bike.
This video is so funny. Thank you Victory for the free Harley ad! He spends the entire video saying he likes this and that better on the Harley. I'm not biased I like most bikes for one reason or another, but this is just not a well thought out video by the victory group. He basically said he likes the Harley better but would still buy a victory........? Brand loyalty is dumb, if you like one bike better than another........ride it and smile!
+canecorsodaddio I was thinking the same thing. What exactly besides the kickstand and lesser shake at below 40 did he like about the Harley. I basically heard the Harley performs better on the highway and is more comfortable etc etc.
The only thing he didn't talk about was handling so I assume they were comparable. Sooo yea. What exactly was better on the Victory for him to choose it.. Like you said, brand loyalty??
He obviously loves his victories, cheaper, better build, better engine, not a hardly tractor, just look at that horn wobble😂
No one actually thought he was going to pick the Harley, right? It's a Victory commercial and he says in the beginning this will be his 4th Vegas. Even though he says he likes the transmission, braking, sound, and finishing touches better on the Harley. He should just tell us he's getting a discount for doing the video. Hahaha!
Didn't matter to me what bike they liked, this was by far the best "talk" i've ever seen about 2 bikes. Most comparo vids are less than 3 minutes long and give you no clue as to which bike would be better. Engine heat, cable mounting,speedo mount....... thumbs up to reviewing stuff that really matters.
Harley, I hop on it and it turns heads, I stop in the bar for a pint it brings people to my table. Harley Davidson the best pantie remover in the world.. No matter what your riding ride safe all.
Watching the video with a smile thank you for the review
I have a victory highball an I shit on Harley’s I’m just like yeah I hear ya back there bud😂
Great review. Makes me want to buy a Harley Wide Glide!
Bobber16 i love my wide glide the only negative thing i agreed with was the kickstand it can be a pain.
This guy is surprisingly honest. Does not totally side with the bikes that he currently owns. Subscribed.
It's crazy, the sound difference, but a friend of mine has a vegas that sounds like hells bells at open throttle. I prefer harleys, but it's a shame that Victory is shutting down. I think the vegas is a good looking bike.
the victory doesn't need fork lock. nobody in their right mind would want to steal it.
Kevin Williamson I see a guy on my route every day with a victory Vegas parked in his driveway with the key in the ignition. For the past three years and guess what? You’re right! Nobody want to steal a victory!🤣🤣🤣
your village called their idiot is missing...lol
I have that same Wide Glide... I LOVE IT!!!!!!! I sit on it in the garage at night. Just chillin.
You've just sold me on a Harley. Except the fact the guy says he prefers victory at the end, it really sounds like the victory sucks and he likes the Harley.
Ha, that's kinda what I thought. The review seemed to be leaning toward the Harley, then the overall goes to the Vegas.
But, on a different note, 8 years ago when I reached a point in my life when it was 'time to buy a Harley', I came home two weeks later with a Vegas. Tried again 6 months ago for a bagger/tour bike and came home with a Vision. Not many people set out to buy a Victory and come home with a Harley, but a lot of folks the past 15 years have set out to buy a Harley or other big V-twin and come home with a Victory. Their slogan 'ride one you'll own one' rings very true for me.
Enjoy the motor issues that come with HD
+orckiller91 I've got a 06 Dyna ,2011 Ultra,as a 2013 street bob *same as dyna, no engine problems on any, 65,000 miles combined mileage on all three,with the ultra leading at 25,000+,the '13 at 18,000+,the 06 slightly less. NO problems.
I have owned both the Harley Dyna and the Victory Vegas.
The major appeal for the Harley is the look, sound, and tradition. The major drawback on my Harley Dyna is the vibration of the engine.
The major appeal for me on my Victory was the smooth engine and ride but the looks are lacking. I just find myself drawn to the classic Harley look.
Both are nice bikes but I found myself using my Dyna more especially when riding with a group...The Harley is just more of a head turner and the sound is unmatched. The Harley with its thunderous sound just beckons you to ride it. It touches your soul in a way that the Victory just can't.
Try the softail slim. 103b engine, no vibration on the soft ails.
Im about to buy the Dyna 2011. First bike (beginner) hopefully the rattling
Doesn't disappoint me.
Agree with you, Ive owned Victory's, Ive owned Harley's and Ive owned Indian. The Indian and the Victory's are long gone, I still have my 2009 Rocker C, 2014 Dyna Wide Glide and a 2021 Street Glide.
SUPRISE! Choosing Victory in a Victory commercial from the Victory Owners group! Who isn't that Suprised???
VICTORY,My Harley stays in shop more than on the road!My Victory never had a problem!!!
So, final words he says he likes the Victory Vegas more, but throughout the video he's pointing out whats better on the Harley Wide Glide except for the swing arm and kick stand... I think he's confused...
Really liked how this review was less biased... both companies have they're pros and cons.
no fork locks cuz no one will try and steal it
Kawasaki 1700 Vulcan Vequero is a total motorcycle.......Its water-cooled, shaft drive is excellent......Not as pretty as a Harley (IMHO) but going across the country I think its a better choice....Many have gotten 150,000 trouble free miles on them!
The Vaquero has serious issues not experienced by Harley owners. Check the Kawasaki forums and you will see for yourself.
I totally agree. No matters what you ride, the most important is that you ride, period.
Love the HD! I'd pick a Harley over any Victory anyday. I don't care about their shortcomings. HD has been around for 109 years so therefore must be doing something right. I don't know any other brand that has such a loyal brand following as HD does. I have ridden other brands as well but nothing compares to an HD ( in a very positive way ).HD's have indeed been copied but never duplicated. I think they're truly unique bikes a real household name.
Owner of .HD Fat & Road King . .. . .
Agree with you. Ive owned Victory's, Ive owned Harley's and Ive owned Indian. The Indian and the Victory's are long gone, I still have my 2009 Rocker C, 2014 Dyna Wide Glide and a 2021 Street Glide.
They're gettin there. Fit and finish has improved over the last couple of years.
I'm a Victory fan, but these videos really make the Harleys look better...I'd fire this guy
As a Victory owner I'm glad they're not trying to compare themselves to Harley anymore. Many of us wanted a big American cruiser that WASN'T a Harley. Nothing wrong with Harley's bikes, in fact many of them are awesome, but it seems like they have lost their focus. To me the Victory is more of a rider's bike where a Harley is a name first, much like a BMW or Mercedes. So you have your die hard HD guys and also a lot of poseur yuppie types just looking to show off how bad ass they are on the weekend. We Victory riders are the gearhead nerds trying to show how fast we can go (or how many miles we can go). In stock form the Victory does sound very much like a lawn mower as the HD sounds pretty awesome. I can see how some people could easily be persuaded. With pipes the Victory sounds like the hounds of hell as it should. Now that Polaris owns the Indian name and pretty much manufactures the same bikes with that name, I'm wondering if my Vic is going to be thrown to the scrap pile (as far as a name goes). I wonder if there will be a recall program to paint the Indian name on my Highball. Let's hope not.
Whatever bro
So you are saying anyone buying a Harley is a poser and the Victory buyer is not. Man grow up. You just refuse to admit that the majority of cruiser buyers buy Harley, consumer reports 48% of cruiser sales are Harley Davidsons. The rest of all the manufacturers make up the remainder. But if you cant do math then keep thinking the way you do. At any rate enjoy your bike but it makes you look foolish to trash talk other brands, that to me is the real poser, anyone that thinks their choice is the only choice. ride safe.
Seriously? Do you not have a fucking life? You have trolled EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON on this thread that doesn't think HD is awesome. EVERY FUCKING ONE! If they're so incredible, why do you constantly go back into the same threads, month after month after month, just trolling people that don't like HD? Talk about a fucking loser! LOL
solomyngrundy1968 how is that any different than what you are doing? hahaha. you're just upset that I'm cutting into your action hahahaha.
You're the nimrod that keeps coming back in months later to sneak a reply in to my comments. And there is no way in heaven or hell that I would let a weasle-faced fucktard like you get the last word. Then I see that you do it to everyone.
The rider didn't seem biased. He pointed out what he likes about both bikes
Forget all the verbal effluence. Thumb the START button and ROOOOAAAAAAR! The Victory slinks off with tail between its legs. If Victory can replicate that roar, then let 'em come back and try again!
Too bad the Victory would hand the Harley it's ass though, huh?
solomyngrundy1968 😂😂
Harley is a harley. U cant beat that.
He is buying a Harley soon!!! Welcome to the family!!
Just listen to the motorcycles. The Victory sounds like a sewing machine and the Harley sounds like what I think a motorcycle should sound like.
It may sound like a sewing machine, but at least it performs like a motorcycle should.
Hahaha. Hey Troll I see youre still at it........loser.
Jeff Krueger fucked it does they should have called it Bernina victory lol
sewing machine lol
Maybe because the mic is exhaust side on the Harley and opposite side on the Vic.
This sounded more like a advertisement for Harley than a victory owners group video. All the things he pointed out about the Harley made me want it more than a Victory. I like the vibration personally makes me feel like I'm on a motorcycle not an electric scooter.
Based on what was said in the video the HD was the better bike but why does Victory alway use an older model Harley for comparison? Check out the other Victory comparison videos and you will see what I mean. A new bike and the Victory still lost based on what the Victory guy said. Ride safe.
Well Polaris bought out the Indian name and look at those bikes!
Free kin awesome!
I have owned both Harley and victory.
Currently riding a triumph Rocket 3.
next bike for sure will be a victory hands down.
@MrClanCularius Exactly. I used to ride a Vulcan VN800A. Beautiful bike, great handling (for a cruiser), brakes that actually work and great performance for 800cc. I always ran rings around my buddies on their Fat Boys. Still: Every time I rode with those Harleys, I always envied them their engines' character. Start-up/idle-sound, the "clonk" from the gearbox .. The Kawa's V2 just seemed soul-less in comparison. That's why if I get another (cruiser)-bike, I'd always go with the Harley.
Sweet sounding Harley!
I'm diggin my new WG, can't wait to get some pipes on it though.
Why all the dislikes? Seemed like a really honest review
Interesting comparison. The Victory has a modern sweeping look to it. Cool but not for everyone. I love the Wide Glide, but it has the 103 A Motor in it. If they put the 103 B motor in, it would be a better bike IMHO. The A motors bounce on the rubber mounts shaking the hell out of the bike. That is why the gauges are on the tank, you would never be able to read them on the bars. But I guess that is what most HD people want.
I just purchased my 5th Harley and plan to add another before the end of the year. To me nothing with an engine looks better, sounds better, or feels better than a air cooled Harley v-twin. I wouldn't mind owning a victory cross roads as my third or fourth bike but I would never trade my Harley for one. Victory, triumph, and Kawasaki all make really nice bikes and I wouldn't mind owning one of each.
I have a Wide Glide. Love everything about it. Not a single complaint, but I'm not one of those Harley guys that automatically hates any other brand of bike. Ride what you like and get in the wind!
I agree with BloodTar . He said he would buy the Victory but had a lot of good things to say about the Harley .
Good job at finding a non biased rider (sarcasm).
If I wanted to ride snowmobiles I'd buy the Polaris. But I'm riding a motorcycle so keep your victory and I'll enjoy my Harley.
I think both of these bikes are freaking awesome. I think the victory in black looks bad ass just like the hd. Can't go wrong either way.
He's owned 4 victory's to find one good one.
thanks for the comparison. I am trying to decide which would be better for me. now all have to do is find time to drive 4 hours to the two dealer ships to sit on them.
So did you get a chance to ride a Victory and a Harley? You should compare Indian and Harley both are better than the Victory. I tried all three and the Indian and Harley were comparable, but the Victory was nice also but a noticeable vibration that the Indian and Harley didnt have. Buy what you like and by the way, pricing is close.
Dragan M while I was riding the victory I also felt a little extra vibration so I rode a harlydavison fatboy S and a indian chef vintage. I found both the harley davidson and indian to be more to my liking. I think I am going to pick the Fatboy S because it felt like I could move it around easier and also I like the gloss black look it has.
Madcatdave good choice, the S has more power. it's always best to be your own judge because these Victory videos are crappie and biased. I mean this in a nice way....told you so. I bought an 09 Night Train with a stage 1 kit, and was problem free. both the Indian and Harley are a good choice, in my opinion the Indian is for older folks lol. another good option is the Harley Breakout. I drove one this summer with the 103 ci and liked it but I felt it needed a little more power. I'm 5'7" and I loved the riding position better than any other cruiser except maybe for the V Rod that is a close 2nd for riding position.good luck with whatever you choose.
they talked me into a zx14
I have had a lot of bikes an currently own a Harley,... But this guy is clearly trying to sell a victory but gave all positives to the Harley an very minute ones to the victory.. Now I love the look of the victory but damn you whooped your own butt guys!!
I've owned a dozen H-Ds (including two FXRs). This is the 21st century. It's time for a change. My new machine for around town will be a Victory Vegas. For touring, I'll take my Beemer.
I am a Harley Biker but i liked the Victory bikes as well. Victory went out of business but what happend to all the bikes at the dealers? Did they all evaporate ?
sounds like even VOG members prefer the Harley
Não existe comparação!!! Harley é única e exclusiva.
A minha sportster é dura, treme tudo e eu gosto assim.
I will just have to get both, Harley for Harley group rides and Victory for every other day.
harley wins for me just because of the sound
Harley-Davidson wins because Victory suck!!! Oh and I guess they're going out of business too. LOL
you dumb ass victory is a hands down better bike and is more American then a fucking dick twisting HD going out of business because they now make the Indian and are in the progress of trying to make HD all american (witch they are not ) again your just another dumb fuck thinks because he pays on a HD rest of there life no's what there talking about my Vegas will turn more heads then your junk ass HD will ever
well at the end of day you want reliability...victory is way more reliable, just keep searching about the transmission system and step motor and other stuff and you'd get what I'm saying, man
would be one dangerous blindfold test
:)
I would say whichever one speaks to your heart and soul is the right choice, just like everything else in life. You can make a list of pros and cons, rationalize, etc.., but which choice, if any, stirs your soul?
What bike will hold its value better?
Man the sound comparison really made the Harleys case......I really didnt see anything from this video that would make me choose a Victory over a Harley.
@HellsAngelsForever
Nothing has been deleted. If it has, it was flagged by TH-cam or the original poster. I don't filter the comments.
Did anyone notice how much he stared at the HD at the end of the video, after he said he liked the Victory more?
if you push a button will the Polaris turn back into a snowmobile ?
+jojojeep1 No, but with Victory's forward thinking (as oppossed to the 80+ year old technology of a Harley), I wouldn't be surprised if they did!
victory is a better running bike, but I'm true to my bike, it's never let me down, I'm sure if it were a shovel head I'd be fixing on it all the time. with me I love the shovel, and I love the pan and the knuckle the older the better, if I was to do some long mile runs, maybe just maybe I would get something with more technology . safe riding brother.
I love Harley, to be honest. Always have. I've test drove pretty much all the Dynas, Softails and even a couple of Touring bikes in the last 6 weeks. I'm going to be deciding and purchasing a new bike in January.
There is no denying it... Harley has soul. Their technology has improved greatly, and of course their styling is (IMO) the best.
I've just starting to look at the Victory's lately... but haven't test drove one though. This all is going to make my final decision all the harder.
There's one thing that I do know. My next bike is going to be American.
Ride safe bro.
good luck , look it's the man on the bike , not the bike under the man, I just let go of my warrior 1700 with a lot of custom touches on it, I have all types of bikes I just like my trouble child so I kind of stick with the older Harleys, no computers no wires no sensors, just two pistons and a carb.
+solomyngrundy1968 . Harley Davidson is a piece of crap too bad . Did you see how the Harley was vibrating like crazy . Imagine you ride 500 miles when you go to bed tuck under the cover you still feel your hands vibrating like a hammer on a construction site . I don't want arthritis oh no .
Well of course, if it's a "HONEST" video comparison from Victory Owners Group, between a Victory and a Harley, WELL, surprise of course the guy is going to take the money and say that he would pick the Vic over the Harley. That victory is hideous in my opinion, as far as I'm concerned the only VTWIN in this video is that of a Harley.
Harley is a great choice for anyone that is a motorcycle mechanic.
Well I can say that I own a 08 HD Dyna Street Bob and it's for sale. I am considering a Victory for my next bike mainly because Victory has just come out with the Hi-Ball and that's the look I really want! In order to get that old school bobber look from Harley I would have to downgrade a bit from a Dyna to the Sportster Forty-Eight and then spend thousands to modify it to look like I want. It's going to be a tough decision as I love HD.
If I wanted a Honda, I would by a Victory. I LOVE my Harley.
Would love to see a video with someone who is not a short stack. I realise that dsjr is a VOG.net regular, but man. I'm 8 inches taller than him, and trying to find a review for a taller rider seems to be pretty hard to come by.
Victory did make some excellent bikes...but all vic owners would be sick right now! That dyna can still go to any Harley dealer and get serviced...u may be able to get the Vic serviced at an Indian dealer...but if not, good luck finding sm1 to work on it if, and when it breaks down!
The Harley looks and sounds Better! And most importantly the Harley will be there long after the Victory cycles will be gone.
Agreed
He said in the beginning he preferred the Vegas. It wasn't as lopsided as you made it out to be. Some items just get weighted differently. For instance, the freedom 106 for me spanks the annoying big twin hands down. The wide glide also has an annoying kickstand and the tank gages are also not preferred and also noted in the video. It's all preference and opinion. I'd ride a 1200 custom long before an ultra. My preference. YMMV
I loved my Victory Jackpot Premium. Then they killed Victory. I, in turn, pulled the plug on Polaris. I now drive a brand new Softail. The hell with Polaris.
oh and I ride with boots and can work a kickstand - nice job for the kickstand challenged Victory - you win that one!!!
Just styleing alone is the biggest plus for the Harley.
Well I had a 2011 Wide Glide with the same paint as this one, it got stolen within my first year of owning it (even with the fork lock locked) I guess crooks found the Wide Glides desirable. I replaced it with a 2012 Wide Glide that I still own and ride today. I obviously prefer the WG and took it touring a few times. Found I really like to tour, so I ended up adding a 2017 StreetGlide Special. People who rag on Harleys just because... are exactly like Harley owners who rag on other bike makes just because... If you are on two wheels and we pass while out an about, I'll wave to you no matter what bike you are riding. Its all motorcycles to me.
I guess it depends on where you live. I live in Phoenix, Az. and a radiator is a very nice addition.
I have a softail custom decked out but im looking for a victory as i type this lol
Looking at these two bikes together, there's no question which is the coolest bike. The Harley wins hands down.
I judge a motorcycle on FUN factor, not which one has the most technology. Not a brand loyalist but so far I find Harley Davidson the most FUN. Of course I have a 2002 dyna wide glide with a carburetor so it still has the " old harley" soul.
Steering locks, the Victory has two holes that line up on full left lock to put a big ass padlock in it. Yeah you have to carry the padlock but that is way stronger than a steering lock.
went to a motorcycle expo. checked out the victory and liked them. went home to look for a dealership. there were no dealerships that dealt purely victory. they sold snowmobiles, jetskis, sportbikes, quads, and victory. i have a harley and am not a slave to the brand (don't own a single piece of harley clothing), but the dealership gave me pause. i like that the guys who on my harley do nothing but harleys, that the dealer sells nothing but harleys? any victory riders have any thoughts?
Can't get an unbiased opinion from a dude that owns three Vegas model Victory bikes. Go figure. I rode two models of Vegas (8 ball and Judge) before deciding to buy my Super Glide. The one factor that swayed my decision most was the "not sounding like a industrial floor polisher" factor. I love my Harley. 'Nuff said.
I'm a little biased... I have a wide glide and it's awesome. I also have two shovels and a 74 ironhead.
Wait hold on !!! You ask a guy who tells you at the start he owns three Victory motorcycles for an unbiased opinion ??????? Is it just me ???
Seems they recorded the sound of the pipes wrong. On the Victory they were on the opposite side of the pipes, the Harley, same side. Also, my Victory does have fork locks... it is the Kingpin Deluxe though.
So Timmy if I am a brand new bike maker my motors must be 6 valve, ice cream cooled, inline 5 cylinders right? Because 2,3,4 and 5 valves per cylinder; air,oil, and water cooling and single cylinder, v-twin, inline 2,3,4 and 6 cylinders have all been done on bikes before. This is what I MUST DO, if I don't want to copy anyone elses hard work that is...right?
@steve k. Right on! Lol. Ride safe bro
So all they talked about was why and how the Harley stood out yet picked the Vegas? I didn’t hear one point that made the Vegas better... enlighten me
that sound is so worth it, ;its like thunder!'
Hi don , I'm gonna ask you a few questions and I need you to answer them as we discussed earlier!
Little unsure there, the H-D has the lokka and sound. But i kinda like the Vic to, but always loved H-D so when the time and money comes, i think of a Dyna Super Glide or the FatBoy
Pretty good real world comparison video. The Victory owner liked the H-D in almost all respects better than the Vic, yet he would buy the Victory - huh??? Because he can operate the kickstand easier and likes the fork mounted speedo? That just doesn't add up.
Harley all the way
Good review of the bikes, but the verdict is a little biased since he currently owns three Victory Vegas bikes...do you really think he was going to pick the Harley? Even though it sounded like he found a few things about the Victory that he would like changed and a few things about the Harley that he definately prefered??
Later.
8 balls aren't bad looking, highball is really cool looking. I've ridden pretty much everything, Victory included, rode all the Harley models, never a wide glide but a street bob. Ill say this...for me personally, I like when a bike has a character and personality, the only bikes that I have ever ridden that have "spoke" to me, were BMW Airheads, and Harley Dynas and Road Kings. I rode the Vics, and I really really wanted to like them, but...they felt very robotic to me. souless.
the only problem I have with buying a Victory is that they do not have a dealership/shop in New York City.
Realistically though fit wise would probably be more appropriate to compare the fxdl that also includes adjustable seat and risers. Not a harley that's more built for larger people, by that I mean above 5"8.