0:01 Installation, noise and battery consumption 6:49 Controller settings, adjustments and controls 13:01 Startup 16:14 inside dB noise 17:00 Underneath installation 23:41 Diesel tank 25:06 Outside db noise 26:55 Shutdown 29:39 Final say and CO alarm
Best explanation I have found on these heaters. Very thorough, other people gloss over so much of the details that I wanted to know about the install and running procedure 👍
Great vid thanks! Only thing, apart from muffler orientation as others have mentioned, would be to use 6mm bolts or set screws for mounting , not wood screws which will eventually tear through the ply floor. This happened on my Jayco with the water pump. Use bolts with over size washers and lock nuts or thread lock.
I just bought a 2nd hand camper trailer with a diesel heater installed. I pulled the whole thing apart looking for the fuel tank, wasn't till your video I thought to check the 20L jerry on the drawbar. Yup, plumbed to the heater complete with an inline valve. Thanks for tip off!
Very nicely explained! Thanks for that. I am going to mount a diesel heater in my caravan, because we are gouing on tour through Europe in winter. To rely on gas and electrical only seems not a great idea. Good to see that the diesel tank can be mounted a longer distance away from the heater itself. By the way: I have never seen a caravan with expandable canvas here, we only have those white aluminium ones. :-)
Yeah for power conservation they are a winner in my opinion. They are a pretty cool design for a caravan which is smaller in footprint but expands for sleeping areas to allow massive internal floorspace for the size of the caravan. Once you get over the fact you bought a caravan to sleep under canvas it makes sense if your limited by size weight which we were.
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 ow yeah weight limits... that is a problem here as well. I am currently making an expansion of the hot air outlet to reach further than only underneath the seating area.
Nice video, however please move your muffler to vertical as it has a drain hole to allow water to escape, especially if your exhaust doesn't flow downwards, unless you have other drain holes on the exhaust
So is some air in the line unavoidable? My heater blew stacks of white smoke again but no errors and it came clean afterwards got me stuffed and stressed as we love the heater so much don’t want it to foul plug and be without it
Great Video. We got a cheap Diesel heater a bit ago and just haven't installed it in our DIY camper rebuild as of yet. Hope to do it so. Great informatio, Thanks for sharing 👍up my friend
Great video and the best I’ve seen to date. One question. Where you fitted the fuel line the the fuel pump using the 30mm rubber fuel line did you just butt the plastic fuel line to the pump?
Thanks Allan, that is correct mate. All joins using the rubber fuel line "joiners" I ensured the hard line was all the way to ensure no air gap between connections. Cheers
My arrows are on the left side. When entering password there is no paddlock icon and I can't get it to save settings when I replicated the settings. Do you have any insight into how I can save the settings?
Haha, my background is a Fitter Machinist which has taught me to understand the inner working of things. Although I am always looking to modify and "upgrade" things to suit my specific needs etc. The video stuff is new to me and it takes a few goes to get it right. Cheers for the support Shane, much appreciated
Hey mate nice vids. I’m thinking of getting a diesel heater but I’m just in a small van and don’t really have room to mount the fuel tank outside anywhere. I was just going to secure it in the van near by the heater, ( not too close) do you think this would be a problem safety or noise wise? Thanks
Small van as in car/van or small caravan? If its a diesel van these can be hooked into the vehicles fuel tank. If its a small caravan then you can install the tank inside, diesel is relatively safe, although the smell would be hard to solve, the tank will breathe under cold and hot conditions due to the breather and also filling will be tricky. Id look at fitting a smaller tank outside as these heaters are very efficient a 5ltr tank might help? either that or look into the All in 1 diesel heaters that are portable so the unit and tank can be sitting outside and just have the ducting connected to the van? Cheers, Tim
Great video but I believe your muffler should be mounted at 90 degrees to what you have it with the drain hole at the bottom to allow condensation in the muffler to drain away to prevent corrosion
No, this is not advised. Air for the combustion should be drawn from outside, if there as any blow back it would be inside potentially creating a hazardous atmosphere. The fan will pull air from the cabin and heat it over the unit and to where you direct the ducting.
@@mattsmith2051 Sorry I thought you were asking about intake combustion from the cabin air. I cut those vents into the cabinet to allow the unit to draw air in efficiently, once the lid and cushions for the couch are on its pretty air tight so I wanted it to draw air from the van easily. Id recommend doing this on an install.
@@mattsmith2051 just to clarify the combustion is all external, bottom of the unit that the hole in floor is made to connect exhaust and air intake to externally. The unit will draw air around the casing from the computer style fan which draws cooler air from the cabin over the hot heater body and out the vent tubing to where you position the vent for warm air circulation.
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 I have mine under the bed but have not yet ventilated the intake vent on back of unit due to there being a bit of cool ventilation under the bed via mattress. I have a mate running his the same but I’m still considering adding the vent so the fan can draw from the cabin
My heater has been running fine last two days but it smoked up white cloud today on startup. I have been running it on manual lower settings so fingers crossed it just hasn’t conducted a good burn like it should at higher temps so I’ll run it on auto from now to see if that helps running flat out to start. The pump is approx 3m away from the tank I did that arse about but it didn’t present as an issue first two days after priming etc. I re mounted the filter vertical instead of parallel as recommended due to perhaps excessive air entering. Pump in on a 30 degrees as yours is, have you had any issues with smoke? Do you have practices like turning it up to burn off before OFF? Thanks for help 👍🏻
white cloud is a sign of unburnt diesel, unit is mounted bottom of unit to floor and not on a wall? I do try and run it on high before shutting off, depending on how long it was run on low etc. Another thing to check is glow plug cycle is running on startup and battery has sufficient voltage during glow cycle
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 yes floor mounted. I’ve recently been trying run hot if I have the voltage before shut off and this has helped. Last two nights I’ve shut off the heater from low and there has been only a small amount of smoke but very little. I think my main issue was air in the line as I mounted filter parallel instead of vertical as instructed.
Thanks for the gr8 video. I think your battery might be on its way out the heat plug usually draws about 10 amps. If your voltage drops that far down, it won't be long before you will need to replace them. Btw, do you Have a link to the heater pls?
I don't think the voltage is all that accurate on the screen. Whilst the unit is starting up I have tested with my multimeter at the battery and battery voltage is consistent, I ran 25amp cable to the unit also to reduce voltage drop. I purchased is off eBay 18months ago and the listing is no longer current.
Hi Tinkering Timmy! Thanks for taking the time to produce this video... well done! I've installed a very similar unit in our van as well and love it. I was admiring your wall clock and was wondering where you got it? It would make a nice addition to our van. Thanks.
Cheers David! It does take a bit of effort to get it all sorted. That clock came with our van, but a search online and I have found a similar unit at Jaycar this may suit your needs www.jaycar.com.au/multi-function-lcd-wall-clock/p/XC0225 Cheers
The white unit seen at 3:40 in video? That is my Hot Water System, suburban 20ltr, commonly fitted to caravans before instant hot water systems were fitted. These diesel heaters can be installed in the same space as a battery, ensuring the battery is an AGM or lithium type that doesn't vent and is a fully sealed type. As stated in video you might have to put some vents in the cabinet to ensure good airflow as initially mine was poor and did get hot. Once I added the two vents it is no warmer than the rest of the van so I cant see it being an issue at all
Hope I replied in time, apologies. I just used some high temp silicone that can be used on engines and exhausts. Bunnings may have something or an auto store. Cheers and enjoy the heater.
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 thanks for the reply. I will go to supercheap tomorrow. The turret was in Bunnings like you said isle 58. I have it sitting in place now I just have to mess round with the fuel tank (the bus doesn’t move it is on our block while we build. ) and the fuel pump. The fuse holder supplied fell off today so while at Bunnings bought a new one. Very eager to get thing runnings as it is only 3 degrees outside and not much warmer in bus. Thanks again for the informative video.
When priming the pump will it stop itself after a certain amount of time or do you have to turn off the priming manually? Where my heater is located I can't access the fuel connection as you did and drain into a bucket.
It will stop priming automatically and you can stop it manually (I think by pressing OK) just be shore not to over prime if your not disconnecting the fuel line so you don't flood the unit and make it hard to start/ very smokey on startup.
@@chapter4travels from memory I done 2 cycles of prime. My fuel line is about 3m from tank to unit. Better to under prime than over prime, if the diesel isn't at the unit it will just flame fail so you can try again.
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 I ended up having to replace my ECU & Controller. The dosing pump would come on, make -4- pulses, then shut off. causing a E-06 fault. You couldn't even use the prime circuit either So. I'm off to learn a newer ECU, which has even less control
ebay seller is oneness_top. Although they don't have any listed at the moment. Most when I was looking to purchase had the same/similar stuff included, I bought mine as it had the fuel hose and controller I wanted.
Not from what I have found. There are lots of controllers similar so maybe the others do. What you can do is run the unit in pulse mode where you change the rate of the pump using the up and down arrows. Its a little more user controlled and you can go up and down with more control rater than the temp setting which seems to run full speed or idle. The pump hz mode you can do up and down with little increments. Hope that helps, cheers
0:01 Installation, noise and battery consumption
6:49 Controller settings, adjustments and controls
13:01 Startup
16:14 inside dB noise
17:00 Underneath installation
23:41 Diesel tank
25:06 Outside db noise
26:55 Shutdown
29:39 Final say and CO alarm
Best explanation I have found on these heaters. Very thorough, other people gloss over so much of the details that I wanted to know about the install and running procedure 👍
appreciate that James! Cheers
That was great. Many thanks - just finishing my installation now. The hardest part was finding the sweet spot to put it!!
This has been the best clearest video ever. Great comprehensive work. Congrats.
The PF setting is the heat of the glow plug🙂. Great video btw👍.
Nice one! thanks for the info
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 Power input in watts to glow plug. Setting 1=35W, 2=40W, 3=45W, 4=80W, 5=85W & 6=90W etc. I believe Setting 5 is the default.
Great vid thanks! Only thing, apart from muffler orientation as others have mentioned, would be to use 6mm bolts or set screws for mounting , not wood screws which will eventually tear through the ply floor. This happened on my Jayco with the water pump. Use bolts with over size washers and lock nuts or thread lock.
Hi Tim, very precise and informative video, great tips as well, thank you so much 😊
Very important information thanks, greetings from ireland.
I just bought a 2nd hand camper trailer with a diesel heater installed. I pulled the whole thing apart looking for the fuel tank, wasn't till your video I thought to check the 20L jerry on the drawbar. Yup, plumbed to the heater complete with an inline valve.
Thanks for tip off!
Haha nice, glad the video helped. Cheers
Great video! I have one on order and this video will really help me during the install. Thanks!
Very nicely explained! Thanks for that. I am going to mount a diesel heater in my caravan, because we are gouing on tour through Europe in winter. To rely on gas and electrical only seems not a great idea. Good to see that the diesel tank can be mounted a longer distance away from the heater itself. By the way: I have never seen a caravan with expandable canvas here, we only have those white aluminium ones. :-)
Yeah for power conservation they are a winner in my opinion. They are a pretty cool design for a caravan which is smaller in footprint but expands for sleeping areas to allow massive internal floorspace for the size of the caravan. Once you get over the fact you bought a caravan to sleep under canvas it makes sense if your limited by size weight which we were.
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 ow yeah weight limits... that is a problem here as well. I am currently making an expansion of the hot air outlet to reach further than only underneath the seating area.
Great set of descriptions and help info
Nice video, however please move your muffler to vertical as it has a drain hole to allow water to escape, especially if your exhaust doesn't flow downwards, unless you have other drain holes on the exhaust
Thanks mate, great tip!
Great work and very informative.
Thanks!! I'm about to install mine in the bus and am nervous about it.
No worries, pretty simple install just follow the basic steps common to most the install vids on TH-cam and you should be good. Cheers
So is some air in the line unavoidable? My heater blew stacks of white smoke again but no errors and it came clean afterwards got me stuffed and stressed as we love the heater so much don’t want it to foul plug and be without it
Great Video. We got a cheap Diesel heater a bit ago and just haven't installed it in our DIY camper rebuild as of yet. Hope to do it so. Great informatio, Thanks for sharing 👍up my friend
Thanks heaps for watching
Great video. Thank you
No worries, thanks for the feedback
Excellent video. Thanks.
Cheers Liam
Great video and the best I’ve seen to date. One question. Where you fitted the fuel line the the fuel pump using the 30mm rubber fuel line did you just butt the plastic fuel line to the pump?
Thanks Allan, that is correct mate. All joins using the rubber fuel line "joiners" I ensured the hard line was all the way to ensure no air gap between connections. Cheers
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 sweet👌
Great video very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
My arrows are on the left side. When entering password there is no paddlock icon and I can't get it to save settings when I replicated the settings. Do you have any insight into how I can save the settings?
Email me a photo of the controller
Thanks very much for your informative video. Do you have a background with this stuff because your terminology was very precise?
Haha, my background is a Fitter Machinist which has taught me to understand the inner working of things. Although I am always looking to modify and "upgrade" things to suit my specific needs etc. The video stuff is new to me and it takes a few goes to get it right. Cheers for the support Shane, much appreciated
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 thanks for that response. Your background explains your why your explanations are so insightful. Keep up the good work.
Great content mate valuable info 👍 subbed 👍
Cheers Stephen
your exhaust silencer should be mounted with the condens/moisture hole down.
Great video mate.
Hey mate nice vids. I’m thinking of getting a diesel heater but I’m just in a small van and don’t really have room to
mount the fuel tank outside anywhere. I was just going to secure it in the van near by the heater, ( not too close) do you think this would be a problem safety or noise wise? Thanks
Small van as in car/van or small caravan? If its a diesel van these can be hooked into the vehicles fuel tank. If its a small caravan then you can install the tank inside, diesel is relatively safe, although the smell would be hard to solve, the tank will breathe under cold and hot conditions due to the breather and also filling will be tricky. Id look at fitting a smaller tank outside as these heaters are very efficient a 5ltr tank might help? either that or look into the All in 1 diesel heaters that are portable so the unit and tank can be sitting outside and just have the ducting connected to the van? Cheers, Tim
Great video but I believe your muffler should be mounted at 90 degrees to what you have it with the drain hole at the bottom to allow condensation in the muffler to drain away to prevent corrosion
Cheers
Did you find it necessary to add the intake vent for the heater to suck air into the unit from the van cabin pressure?
No, this is not advised. Air for the combustion should be drawn from outside, if there as any blow back it would be inside potentially creating a hazardous atmosphere. The fan will pull air from the cabin and heat it over the unit and to where you direct the ducting.
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 why did you ad a vent on the side of the seat then?
@@mattsmith2051 Sorry I thought you were asking about intake combustion from the cabin air. I cut those vents into the cabinet to allow the unit to draw air in efficiently, once the lid and cushions for the couch are on its pretty air tight so I wanted it to draw air from the van easily. Id recommend doing this on an install.
@@mattsmith2051 just to clarify the combustion is all external, bottom of the unit that the hole in floor is made to connect exhaust and air intake to externally. The unit will draw air around the casing from the computer style fan which draws cooler air from the cabin over the hot heater body and out the vent tubing to where you position the vent for warm air circulation.
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 I have mine under the bed but have not yet ventilated the intake vent on back of unit due to there being a bit of cool ventilation under the bed via mattress. I have a mate running his the same but I’m still considering adding the vent so the fan can draw from the cabin
Great ,well explained video Tim 👍
Thanks heaps Daryl!
Have you had any one say anything to you regarding use of them
In caravan parks ??
Nothing has ever been said to us, although at parks which are small we are mindful of usage.
My heater has been running fine last two days but it smoked up white cloud today on startup. I have been running it on manual lower settings so fingers crossed it just hasn’t conducted a good burn like it should at higher temps so I’ll run it on auto from now to see if that helps running flat out to start. The pump is approx 3m away from the tank I did that arse about but it didn’t present as an issue first two days after priming etc. I re mounted the filter vertical instead of parallel as recommended due to perhaps excessive air entering. Pump in on a 30 degrees as yours is, have you had any issues with smoke? Do you have practices like turning it up to burn off before OFF? Thanks for help 👍🏻
white cloud is a sign of unburnt diesel, unit is mounted bottom of unit to floor and not on a wall? I do try and run it on high before shutting off, depending on how long it was run on low etc. Another thing to check is glow plug cycle is running on startup and battery has sufficient voltage during glow cycle
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 yes floor mounted. I’ve recently been trying run hot if I have the voltage before shut off and this has helped. Last two nights I’ve shut off the heater from low and there has been only a small amount of smoke but very little. I think my main issue was air in the line as I mounted filter parallel instead of vertical as instructed.
Great tube Timmy
Thanks Jed!
Thanks for the gr8 video. I think your battery might be on its way out the heat plug usually draws about 10 amps. If your voltage drops that far down, it won't be long before you will need to replace them. Btw, do you Have a link to the heater pls?
I don't think the voltage is all that accurate on the screen. Whilst the unit is starting up I have tested with my multimeter at the battery and battery voltage is consistent, I ran 25amp cable to the unit also to reduce voltage drop. I purchased is off eBay 18months ago and the listing is no longer current.
Hi Tinkering Timmy!
Thanks for taking the time to produce this video... well done!
I've installed a very similar unit in our van as well and love it.
I was admiring your wall clock and was wondering where you got it?
It would make a nice addition to our van.
Thanks.
Cheers David! It does take a bit of effort to get it all sorted. That clock came with our van, but a search online and I have found a similar unit at Jaycar this may suit your needs www.jaycar.com.au/multi-function-lcd-wall-clock/p/XC0225
Cheers
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 Yes, the clock is very similar. I'll get one today.
Thanks for taking the time to help. Very much appreciated!
@@davidprice7552 Not a problem. Enjoy
Is it critical the exhaust clears from underneath the van?
Yeah I would recommend it. You wouldn't want any combustion gases or even the smell entering through any gaps in the underbody etc.
What is the white box next to it? Can this heater be installed in the same space as the battery?
The white unit seen at 3:40 in video? That is my Hot Water System, suburban 20ltr, commonly fitted to caravans before instant hot water systems were fitted. These diesel heaters can be installed in the same space as a battery, ensuring the battery is an AGM or lithium type that doesn't vent and is a fully sealed type. As stated in video you might have to put some vents in the cabinet to ensure good airflow as initially mine was poor and did get hot. Once I added the two vents it is no warmer than the rest of the van so I cant see it being an issue at all
great video. I am putting mine in tomorrow but not before i go to bunnings to pick up downpipe pop. What did you seal it with. Thanks
Hope I replied in time, apologies. I just used some high temp silicone that can be used on engines and exhausts. Bunnings may have something or an auto store. Cheers and enjoy the heater.
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 thanks for the reply. I will go to supercheap tomorrow. The turret was in Bunnings like you said isle 58. I have it sitting in place now I just have to mess round with the fuel tank (the bus doesn’t move it is on our block while we build. ) and the fuel pump. The fuse holder supplied fell off today so while at Bunnings bought a new one. Very eager to get thing runnings as it is only 3 degrees outside and not much warmer in bus. Thanks again for the informative video.
@@gibo1971 good stuff! Good thing you noticed it before install and fixed it, that could cause all sorts of dramas later on!
Does your flat plate get quite hot?
Warm to touch quickly and not get burnt. But not hot enough to concern me about burning the floor of caravan
When priming the pump will it stop itself after a certain amount of time or do you have to turn off the priming manually? Where my heater is located I can't access the fuel connection as you did and drain into a bucket.
It will stop priming automatically and you can stop it manually (I think by pressing OK) just be shore not to over prime if your not disconnecting the fuel line so you don't flood the unit and make it hard to start/ very smokey on startup.
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 Thanks for the reply, I have about 8 feet total of fuel line, so can I assume a full automatic priming cycle?
@@chapter4travels from memory I done 2 cycles of prime. My fuel line is about 3m from tank to unit. Better to under prime than over prime, if the diesel isn't at the unit it will just flame fail so you can try again.
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 I just did one prime and it started up just fine. Thanks for your video, it helped me a lot!
@@chapter4travels nice work!
SCREEN CODES:
PF-5 = Power to the Glow Plug
Ah nice, thanks Kelly
@@tinkeringtimmy4061 I ended up having to replace my ECU & Controller. The dosing pump would come on, make -4- pulses, then shut off. causing a E-06 fault. You couldn't even use the prime circuit either
So. I'm off to learn a newer ECU, which has even less control
@@kellygb9278 bugger!
nice video mate
can you put a link to where you got this heater from please
thanks
ebay seller is oneness_top. Although they don't have any listed at the moment. Most when I was looking to purchase had the same/similar stuff included, I bought mine as it had the fuel hose and controller I wanted.
How long is your fuel line?
approx 1.5mtrs to pump 1mtr to heater. Pump is mounted lower than the tank
Good on ya
Thanks 👍
But can it do Fahrenheit for those of us that don’t do C?
Not from what I have found. There are lots of controllers similar so maybe the others do. What you can do is run the unit in pulse mode where you change the rate of the pump using the up and down arrows. Its a little more user controlled and you can go up and down with more control rater than the temp setting which seems to run full speed or idle. The pump hz mode you can do up and down with little increments. Hope that helps, cheers
Hi , on the yellow diesel container ! Where did you get the fuel line connection on the yellow jerry
That setup came with the kit I purchased. I originally had it fitted to the tank supplied but it was of poor quality.
I brought the German fuel pump $24 EBay
your muffler should not be set on its side. hole should be pointing down