Just installed the ROX anti-vibe 2" riser on a 2018 GS Rallye. After several back-and-forth, decided that the cables do not need to be moved...there is some stress at full angle (on the side turning into the angle) but not critical. No pinch spots as shown on your bike, just 'pulling' tension but again not much. To tighten the lower base pinch bolts, you have to tighten the ones closest to the instrument panel first (but not all the way down), set the tilt of the riser (tho not too far in the direction of the rider) and tighten the other bolts closest to the rider. If the riser is tilted too far towards the rider, then you cannot access the lower pinch bolts. You can see this as you are making the adjustments. Thanx for the video...was a real help in sorting thru several of the issues.
I have these risers and the MAIN problem I have is the inaccessibility to lower pinch bolts for tightening and adjusting. They are obstructed by the upper Rox mount. It limits the adjustability. All the videos I have watched have excluded this (tightening/adjusting) part. I guess because its a mf'er. Other than that theyre pretty good. The cable reroute is simple and solves the problem and hasn't caused any wear after 3 years.
Great idea! And you're right, it REALLY should be included with the risers. Even if they charged another $2-$3, it would save a ton of time & aggravation.
Great video! I just wish you didn’t skip the tightening of the bottom bolts. How do you accès them fir the final tightening once the bar is right above them?
You tighten front pretty tight then pull the bars forward then do the rear. It takes some finesse but it's possible. I think specification is only 18NM so you don't have to over tighten.
I have the 2018 GSA with the same risers. When I take the bike back for service, I am going to have them change out the OEM brake lines for the longer Spiegler custom lines.
Very helpful for my install of the same risers. Where do you go to find the manufacturer torque specs for bolts? I’m having a really hard time finding the specs and my dealer is not helpful. Thanks again for the vid!
Hi, obviously this page does not include torque specs - cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0735/5123/t/2/assets/bmw-reroute.pdf but this one does - www.jvbproductions.com/Wethead%20Torques%204.pdf which has handlebar @ 19NM
Do you still have them installed? I picked up a 2019 1250 GSA last Fall and it had these risers on. I'm not sure if I like them, lol. I need to pull them and check it out...
These are great and the adjustability is nice but then most people find what they like and stop adjusting them. If you do hard off roading I’d recommend fixed risers that are non adjustable. They won’t shift when you’re really pulling on the bars if that’s your technique for something like a hill climb.
What a great video! Super useful! I have a set of Rox Risers on order for my 2017 GSA. I'll install them this weekend and refer to your detailed video. Thank you!
It looks like there is no enough room for the tool to tight the bottom bolts (riser to forks). How did you manage that? I want to buy a riser like this, but im not going to do so before i make sure i can tight those bolts safely.
It's not really a vibrating bike so yes it's noticeable especially with Grip Puppies installed. But for off-roading, if you are off-roading, these could pose an issue if you rely on the handlebars like me who is an amateur. Basically I use the handlebars a lot on hill climbs and I bent the rod that these uses in between the rubber damper and they were replaced under warranty as a courtesy. the solid risers are probably going to hold up to more abuse. These are fantastic if your GS is just for touring.
Fire roads at best. I have been riding for a long time and single track with a bike this big wouldn’t be my choice. Maybe a YZ250 for that. Mine does not vibrate much but after 8 to 10 hours on the road it is felt. Thanks for the response.
Hi Jonas, I did. You only have to do one side if you want but it's very easy. Use a pick to remove the black plastic at the top which reveals a socket and you can just un screw and it drops right down.
It definitely changes the geometry of turning. The long term road comfort is worth it and overwhelmingly positive compared to the steering changes. It doesn't take too much away.
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Just installed the ROX anti-vibe 2" riser on a 2018 GS Rallye. After several back-and-forth, decided that the cables do not need to be moved...there is some stress at full angle (on the side turning into the angle) but not critical. No pinch spots as shown on your bike, just 'pulling' tension but again not much. To tighten the lower base pinch bolts, you have to tighten the ones closest to the instrument panel first (but not all the way down), set the tilt of the riser (tho not too far in the direction of the rider) and tighten the other bolts closest to the rider. If the riser is tilted too far towards the rider, then you cannot access the lower pinch bolts. You can see this as you are making the adjustments. Thanx for the video...was a real help in sorting thru several of the issues.
So I installed the riser bars with the anti vibration and didn’t notice and difference so I’d save your money on those and just install these.
Fair comment. I recommend the non-anti-vibe now when people ask for a recommendation.
Right on, man. I just got these in the mail today. Can't wait to put them on my bike.
Enjoy and safe riding in 2020!
Cool video! I don't know the language but understood everything! Good luck on the road! Greetings from Russia!
I have these risers and the MAIN problem I have is the inaccessibility to lower pinch bolts for tightening and adjusting. They are obstructed by the upper Rox mount. It limits the adjustability. All the videos I have watched have excluded this (tightening/adjusting) part. I guess because its a mf'er. Other than that theyre pretty good. The cable reroute is simple and solves the problem and hasn't caused any wear after 3 years.
FWIW I ended up cutting down an allen key making it low profile so I could access the lower bolts.
Great idea! And you're right, it REALLY should be included with the risers. Even if they charged another $2-$3, it would save a ton of time & aggravation.
I am with you!! All videos skip that part!! It is driving me insane.
Thanks for the video. Good info
Great video! I just wish you didn’t skip the tightening of the bottom bolts. How do you accès them fir the final tightening once the bar is right above them?
You tighten front pretty tight then pull the bars forward then do the rear. It takes some finesse but it's possible. I think specification is only 18NM so you don't have to over tighten.
@@AdamChandler86 THx. Ill try!
I have the 2018 GSA with the same risers. When I take the bike back for service, I am going to have them change out the OEM brake lines for the longer Spiegler custom lines.
Good idea! I'll inquire about this.
Very helpful for my install of the same risers. Where do you go to find the manufacturer torque specs for bolts? I’m having a really hard time finding the specs and my dealer is not helpful. Thanks again for the vid!
Hi, obviously this page does not include torque specs - cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0735/5123/t/2/assets/bmw-reroute.pdf but this one does - www.jvbproductions.com/Wethead%20Torques%204.pdf which has handlebar @ 19NM
@@AdamChandler86 Thank you. And, congrats on the new MOA BOD position.
Oh, thank you very much! See you out on the road.
Do you still have them installed? I picked up a 2019 1250 GSA last Fall and it had these risers on. I'm not sure if I like them, lol. I need to pull them and check it out...
These are great and the adjustability is nice but then most people find what they like and stop adjusting them. If you do hard off roading I’d recommend fixed risers that are non adjustable. They won’t shift when you’re really pulling on the bars if that’s your technique for something like a hill climb.
What a great video! Super useful! I have a set of Rox Risers on order for my 2017 GSA. I'll install them this weekend and refer to your detailed video. Thank you!
Good luck!!
It looks like there is no enough room for the tool to tight the bottom bolts (riser to forks). How did you manage that?
I want to buy a riser like this, but im not going to do so before i make sure i can tight those bolts safely.
I am having the same issue!
I know you got the anti vibe risers later....did they make much difference in the vibration on your GS? Thanks
It's not really a vibrating bike so yes it's noticeable especially with Grip Puppies installed. But for off-roading, if you are off-roading, these could pose an issue if you rely on the handlebars like me who is an amateur. Basically I use the handlebars a lot on hill climbs and I bent the rod that these uses in between the rubber damper and they were replaced under warranty as a courtesy. the solid risers are probably going to hold up to more abuse. These are fantastic if your GS is just for touring.
Fire roads at best. I have been riding for a long time and single track with a bike this big wouldn’t be my choice. Maybe a YZ250 for that. Mine does not vibrate much but after 8 to 10 hours on the road it is felt. Thanks for the response.
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Does it fits the F850 GS BMW
Did you have to remove the fork to re-route the clutch side cables? Thanks! BMW R1200R 2011
Hi Jonas, I did. You only have to do one side if you want but it's very easy. Use a pick to remove the black plastic at the top which reveals a socket and you can just un screw and it drops right down.
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HAve you noticed any real changes in road riding? Does it affect the steering when cornering? Good or bad??
It definitely changes the geometry of turning. The long term road comfort is worth it and overwhelmingly positive compared to the steering changes. It doesn't take too much away.
Hi Adam, do you know what is torque value for fork tube nut?
It appears to be 130nm. This guide is very helpful. Print it out for quick access - www.jimvonbaden.com/Wethead%20Torques%204.pdf
I believe it is 40 nm