Carnage - Should We Drop This Engine In Our Torana?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- The Torana has been sitting there for a while now while we try and decide what to put in it. I wanted to use the 2JZ but we just used that for the Trolvo so maybe we should grab another engine that's been laying around the workshop.
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This is proper old school street machining! A huge engine in a little car. This would be the most exciting swap you’ve done so far
It would be the best car they've done to date, with that Hemi OR an LS in it
@@danielbrealey2924 hemi seams more fun😉🙂👍👍
@@steveveness3829 🤔 Yeah, although I think it's just brand pride- it's arguable whether it's a better motor than an LS. I think either would be awesome. I miss my old 383 LJ, man. Big engines in little cars are the best
@@danielbrealey2924 I get that, chuckle if I had a v8 back jn 2005 would of been a real laugh as a mid mount in a UC Sunbird I built with a guy who needed to stay out of trouble.
Mid mount 6 was fun regardless.
@@steveveness3829 Sounds like an interesting build mate 👍
Scotty just put the fear of quick death into the front shocks when he wheeled that beast over.😂
Before removing the 4cl get it going Dyno it then put the biggest turbo you have on it and nitros to see what number you can get before it turns into confetti.
That sounds cool man I like it get a bottle of some nos too lol
Waste of time! Straight to the hemi! Thunderbirds are GO!
Yeah!! blow it up with a blower!
Those 1.3 motors will blow up on a good day at standard power level… they only have three crank main journals instead of 5..so the crank ends up twisting at higher rpm and then it all comes to bits on its own anyhow…
@@mitchellspencer4726 . That would make for a bit of entertainment 🤣
I'd go a built 4cy turbo personally, but Scotty is so excited for the hemi, I can't go against that.
I see a major gear box tunnel mode in a future episode
Hemi TA Torana Gasser! That would solve the ground clearance issue. I'd go stock motor first as a base line then add bits and boost later😀
Huge yes to the Hemi going in the Torana. Would definitely be something different to see and would make great content for the channel.
Put that hemi in the lockdown valiant like we've been waiting for.😁
A hemi in a valiant.... how original 😂 a hemi in a little Torana is NOT common, where's your originality mate 😂
Wpuld love to but I don't have the budget to finish the car right now
I agree
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING to the nursing home for you lol
Then slap a nice 173 with triple u on it and xu1 head?🤔
Late to the party here but I think the look on your face when you measured the engine says it all, that was almost pure childlike joy. To the bosses, this HAS to happen!
I'm guessing it'd flex so much you'd crack the (non-existent-at-the-moment) windscreen the moment you hit the loud pedal with it in gear for the first time, and you still might have a height issue (may need to source another bonnet or make me cry and cut up that nice-looking original), but this can definitely be done and I'm totally here for it!
Definitely go the hemi. Everyone is either doing ls or barra swap these days. This would be a one of kind build that I would love to see
Yes +1 for the hemi torana build!!!! Been thinking that exact thing for ages, it's clearly meant to happen with those dimensions.
I'm all for this build. It's gonna be epic if this project gets the go ahead. LS everything's been done it's hemi time baby
*We've been GAGGING to do a Hemi powered Holden for donkeys ages!*
Let us live vicariously through you! And once she's a runner, see if Harrop need a test mule for a 2650 blower kit lol
If it all fits under the bonnet I think I'd sooner like to see a procharger providing the boost. Plus centrifugal blower is something different for Carnage - as if this little car really needs a blower full stop 🤣
@@kljperformance7372 mate, if some is good... then surely more is better!
Do it! Dry sump will fix clearance issues. Just worried about weight and strength of the chassis. May add to the $$$ a fair bit.
Would definitely be different...
Being a 4 pot Turdrunner I can't help thinking a 4 banger would be cool in it, K24 or something... and make it a drift car or hillclimb car?
But if you want it to be a drag car it'd be bloody unique with that in it.
And don't bother sticking an LS in it - might as well just sell it. So many LSs out there.
@@mahcooharper9577 hey if it goes fast who cares what powers it? Its not like anyone is casting an engine themselves or designing a new style of head.
@@boingkster not knocking LSs, they're popular for a reason - it's just that it's not that interesting to make a video series of an LS swap in to a Torana. It's been done so many times
@@mahcooharper9577 Fair call. A Mitsubishi 4G54 (SOHC 2.6L 4cyl) would be perfect I reckon.
Wow that's gonna be a big project. The engine is almost as big as the car. Lol. This will be mental. Get it done scotty!
Hemi gets my vote, would be a proper little weapon 😀
And don’t forget it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission 😂
Do it!! I think you're opening up a world of hurt trying but the end result will be well worth it.
Would be awesome to see but make sure that chassis is strong enough to handle the power but no doubt you’ve already worked that out. Make it happen Scotty🍻
No second guessing on this one Scotty!
DO IT....DO IT....DO IT....DO IT
From a little workshop in suburban Victoria comes
HEMRANA !!!
Do it !
Cheers from Sydney
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Prefer hemi over ls but being a 4 pot car the k swap sounds more appealing or 3rz something odd that likes the boost
“Am I crazy”? Yes, yes you are but I love it 😂😂😂
I think that you should go with the Hemi in this.
Much more interesting watching this build over an LS build.
But as someone else has mentioned in the comments if you don't go with the Hemi, then a rotary would be wicked in the little Torana.
You got the car, you got the engine.... Just do it!
I think it will be a fun project!
Fark Scotty way to get a bloke excited on a monday morn!!!! Be a mad concept 🤣👍🍻The main issue to start with would be regarding chassis twisting and tracking straight under 10-12 times the torque and horsepower. Being Street Machine somehow I reckon you would know a guy 😉
It would be getting some reinforcement
Scott: "Am I crazy?"
Us: "Sure as hell mate, but we're not gonna stop you!"
Love the idea ls swaps been done to death would be a snooze fest
Without a doubt, if you pull this off, will be one of the best TH-cam project done yet, in my opinion.
Great idea, back it up with a manual transmission and it’ll be awesome!
I think you are on a winner Scotty. But may I suggest this may be the perfect opportunity to have a Carnage/Skid Factory colab! You must invoke the spirit of the Turbo Yoda as he is a master of fitting square pegs into any shape hole and is a genuine top bloke like yourself. Also Yoda comes with a free Woody! Not only is he very handy on the tools and camera as well as being one of the nicest fellas ever, he can double as a human pull through for them impossible to get to jobs...! Love ya Woody!!
I thought you would have done something really different and gone with a K24 turbo Honda setup. Keep it 4 cylinder but modernised.
We looked at it but they're expensive to get real power out of.
This! Was just about to comment, k swap in aus would be cool to see, decent turbo maybe a power glide keep the weight down/ balanced. The hemi would be cool to see on something else Val coupe or something!
@@STREETMACHINETV Collab with Boosted Bois. You pay to fly them out and let them bring all the parts to build it. Both channels win and gain more subs.
Omg yes that’s crazy and you guys are the right people to do it 👍🏼
Do the Hemi Scotty!
Run it stock, then add the go-fast bits.
LS has been done to death.
As I’m the donator of the guard flutes, I reckon that counts for extra votes 👍
Not sure if it's been mentioned but how much clearance through the trans tunnel I think when you move the firewall back do the trans tunnel I would put a built and tubbed rear end or mini tub to fit fuel cell inside I would also recommend a roll cage and brake upgrade things look like they going to be hectic can't wait for the videos I think the sump suggestion is likely just to have a bit more clearance I also think if you need an inch or 2 out the Bonnet it will look tough you could go sleeper but meh if you're going to put it in I'd let everyone see also may have missed but another thing to keep in mind is what is it going to be used for and build it to suit I think it will be tough af judging by the rest or your builds. I'm putting a V6 with a 6v71 blower in my Torry racecar so yeah anyway I vote go the hemi
Should either do this or a rotary swap
Faaaark off lol
Rotary would be cool
Rotary would be kool
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Scotty, what a Classic combo I love it, laugh so hard if ya pull it off😂
Street Machine was built on unusual and one off builds, why change now? Put that Hemi in there 🔥👌
First thoughts,your off your head,but the more I see it I know you are,but I love it,yes.Cut the firewall .love the channel and jam that Hemi in there,cheers 👍👍🛞🔥
I think you should put a smaller turbo engine in there, this is unusable except for going in a straight line. Keep the video's coming! Greetings from the Netherlands 👍
I agree a 4cyl Opel engine or K swap it or something lol
Audi 1.8t manual quattro. 👍
100% Do it..Do it NOW!!
What an awesome combo that would be...
Build a car that's a hot streeter. Fully legal registered and a drag challenge weapon. Enough of the unregistered drag cars. More enjoyment to be had than just flogging it for a 1/4 mile. Love the channel Scotty.
Good to see a build on a street legal car that can go on a Powercruise and drag weeks
Not sure we could make it legal
Be a good series if fully engineered and streetable 👍🍻
@STREETMACHINETV work with an engineer. Anything is possible with the correct talent on board.
Yep this is where it's at. Something on the road and usable. For the average punter that's way more realistic than a trackday weapon.
Is that standard engine the 1256cc engine?
Looks the same as the engine in a vauxhall chevette I owned.
Car looks similar size too.
They made a chevette HSR for rallying with a 2.3 litre 16 valve engine.
The transmission used was the same as a Bedford van: dog leg 1st.
Go with the Hemi Scotty, certainly unique and I like I’m sure many others will be hanging out for updates - good luck with it
As a true torana lover and a hemi lover, this would be worth the wait.
I've always reckoned an Alloytec would be cool in it. Keeps it Holden, and if you put a decent timing chain and guides in it, they're a solid motor. I'm positive there was a 10 second LC/LJ with an NA Alloytec back in 2007?
lfx/lgx is a very capable engine.
Ewwww lol
Hell ya that 6.4 hemi will fit. My metal shop teacher in high school said you can do anything with a chop saw, grinder, and a welder. Cut your firewall out and go from there, just do it Scotty
What do you want to use it for Scotty ? ... Cruiser is easier but drag car as you know hell of a lot more work. I'dkswap and turbo it with BRZ 6 speed. Good luck with it anyway and can't wait how far it goes ....
Hemi stock to start with and then build it up take us viewer's on a journey. Just like trolvo and the vn the journey has been the best part.
Hell yeah do it, sounds interesting I’ll be watching for sure
The Austin Freeway, an Australian ceation, moved the radiator to in front of the radiator mount, directly behind the grille.
But a supercharged 3800 V6 may fit much better.
A power bulge on the bonnet may help too.
Another idea, add 3" to the front guards.
There you go.
Well Castlemaine Rod Shop shoehorned a V12 Fezza motor into a LC. Massive amount of work needed. But if you want to spend the time in modifying the bay etc, you will have a really unique vehicle!
I had a 4cyl then a 6cyl LC back in 76-79. The front chassis rails on the 4 cyl are match sticks. Definitely going to need a bit of beefing up somehow. The transmission tunnel on the 4 cyl is the same size as the 6 cyl so there is a moderate amount of room. But with all that weight up front it ain't gunna handle. One thing with the Hemi, the spark plugs being on top will be easy to get to. Also the starter is on the passenger side so it won't get in the way of the steering.
Great idea !! But I foresee many issues ! Chassis, cooling , firewall, and most probably trans tunnel, fitting the engine will be the least of your issues!!
UNIQUE. HEMI IN TORANA IS THE BEST IDEA.
LS HAS BEEN DONE. ITS JUST AN ORDINARY CONVERSION. YOU GUYS ARE KNOWN FOR DIFFERENT AND CRAZY. DONT TAKE A STEP BACK. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS.
LOVE TO SEE THE HEMI WORKED IN THE TORANA. ITS A NO BRAINER🙏🙏🙏🙏
NO BRAINER GUYS. TORRY THE HEMI!!
WHY ARE WE YELLING?!?
That's nuts enough to work. I love it!!
Stock, Glide, Diff sounds like a good start. Ya gunna need a chassis kit, otherwise ya gunna twist the crap out of it. Castlemaine Rod Shop has one I believe for the LC/LJ. I believe they're the same chassis as your TA?
Looking forward to hearing what's gunna be the go.
I like the idea 😊 Will take a lot of supporting mods to make it safe though with RnP steering, brakes, suspension, at least a 4 bar link in the rear, tubs for bigger rubber out back and gotta hide it all under the standard bonnet for ultimate sleeper 😉
Definitely a good idea putting the Hemi engine in the Torana. Keeps the current Carnage tradition of swapping larger engines into smaller cars, such as the Barra/ LS powered MX5.
Yes yes yes, do it. Back to the old school when we fitted the biggest conversion we could find in our little shit boxes. Make it happen, this will be epic.
They do say that with enough Vaseline, anything will fit 🤣🤣. But let's be honest, this is one of the best pastime that we as Australian's love to do, take the biggest engine lying around stuff it into the small Car we can find. Normally it involves a bit of liquid encouragement first, but hey. If Telfo approves, then SEND IT!!!
I'd love to see the hemi in it, Scotty's excitement says it all. You could just entertain the idea for another episode at least, pull the old motor and try fitting the hemi in and see what needs to be done
G’Day mate how are you? You could also put spaces between the front crossmember and the chassis to raise the body up off the crossmember so that gives you a higher clearance. I once had an LC Tirana, and did this to mine.
Height is not a problem. Cut an opening in the bonnet and build an intake cover for the hole.
Other considerations, as you know, are transmission and tunnel modification. Bigger diff and entire rear end beefed up. The wheel arches enlarged to take bigger tyres. The front end suspension likewise. Then there is the interior. It would be a beast though.
Hey Scotty, mate 1x gas axe, 1x hammer, and 1x 10" shifter, and any motor will fit in the Head Butt. Just clear the space and shove it in baby, but it can't go in stock. A performance cam of some description must be installed
Would love to see a Hemi powered something on an Aussie TH-cam channel, I'm over 1J this & 2J that or Barra or LS powered everything, finally something different on TH-cam, will be definitely be watching if this goes ahead 🤩
Scott: am I crazy?
Audience: shakes heads vigorously 😂 hell no, Blasphemi .02 😍
Great idea Scotty but the wagon is gonna cry if you give it's heart to another patient, besides, the Torrie is only going to be a straight line or burnout car if you do.
Originally I suggested an Alloytec but now you've got me thinking how to freak the punters out, and I have a new suggestion, the turbo 4 out of an FG/FG-X or better still the Mustang, they could have stump pulling power in the Torrie and they're factory turboed so you could use the harness out of the donor car along with the ECU to get it going asap.
As a bonus with some suspension work it would go around corners and be the Barina replacement for circuit work along side strip/burnout duties.
Scott what ever you and the SM guys decide we're all going to watch anyway, keep enjoying yourselves and so will we.
I think you should do something a little different with the torana. Swap in a vortec 2200 and turbo it. It's a 2.2 4cyl ohv engine that came in the chevy s-10 compact utes in the states.
Dude!!! This needs to happen! That will be insane!
TA Hemi NA on the 1/4 oh HELL YES.
Scotty, you are definitely different. There is no argument from this crowd mate.
Whatever the power's choices are, we will still watch the build,
I wanted to see the L67 in the TA, but the Hemi sounds a lot better.
Great video. My vote - stock hemi......, however,.....
Would be so great to see a couple of videos of:
a) get the little 4 pot working go for a drive
b) dyno the 4 pot
c) whip out the 4 pot and strip it down, work out what could be done to max out its performance and do it, then put it back in and dyno it again, qnd go for another drive. How much tech and knowledge could you apply to that thing and how far could you get it?
Then do the hemi swap!
If the powers to be approve it go for it, but if they say no would it be possible to look at throwing a turbo charged V6 ecotec in it? Or if worst comes to worse a turbo alloytec?
Definitely do the Hemi, personally I think it would be an awesome not only for us viewer’s but also for you guys as a project!
hi Scotty mate, like that old shoe ad , just do it 😁👍👍. put a strange diff and tub the wheel arch for bigger tyres and disc brakes all round, some tuff gear box with lockup and 2 stage . a cam and lifter package isn't that much, run 5w40 oil. get rid of the piston deactivation and don't increase the riv limit past stock and you can run it as is. 400hp in that will be crazy as . love it do it . hell yeah.
Would definitely be an interesting build, you don’t see many people putting hemi’s in Australian built vehicles, but meaning that, it could be a lot of work in the scope of things but my vote is a Hemi powered Torana 👌🏻
YES love it stick the Hemi in there but add rods, pistons, cam etc, if your going to go big GO BIG
Hell yeah, 6.4 hemI is a Go ahead in my view 🎉do the stock 1st more viewing potential to watch the longer build progress.
Get it in there Scotty, This car will never be engineered etc, so realistically, you can do what you want.. This is automotive art at it's finest.. Leave it stock, get the suspension and grip right. Won't need huge ridiculous power
I’m very keen for this content with the hemi - especially as a 1/4 mile development style build series possibly with some nitrous which would be very interesting content and newer territory for the channel. So much forced induction drag racing going on, this would be refreshing
Nitrous is forced induction
@@STREETMACHINETV Haha yes true (thanks mate) the bottle is pressurised I hadn’t thought of it that way, I guess I meant having a break from blowers and turbos 👍🏻
6.4 hemi, straight axle, headers out the fenders, nose in the air, Gasserana!
Sort of like the old cortina.... lead tipped arrow with marginal brakes thrown in. Love the idea but would only be good for one thing, the drags. What do you think about something smaller and lighter, not sure of what but with huge suspension development to make an insanely capable all-rounder? Maybe 1000hp sr20 or something? Damn quick down the quarter but just as quick through the bends. Big block barina on steroids.
Love the material being published, keep doing a stellar job!
Hemi swap would be awesome! Got my vote. Big engine chrome bumper is what street machine is all about.
I say go for the Hemi build mate. Good choice for power over the usual LS options, plus you have the car and you have the engine as you said.
I'd love to see the Lexcen finished first! But the stock Hemi in the little Torana would be a huge giggle.
I reckon a turbo 202 with a manual would go well in there, the 6.4 may technically fit, but good lucky servicing it, and the tunnel mods to fit the box would be excessive.
You could go a dry sump set up, mount the radiators and coolers in the backseat/boot with air ducts coming up from the bottom, probably the best way to do it
Like Brocks rally cross Torana.
6.4L hemi going in the torana is a brilliant idea, a dangerous engine going into an even more dangerous car......that is Aussie AF and needs to happen and it is that case that you can always make an engine fit, just shoehorn it in there because every man and his dog has done an LS engine.
I think it would be work building it to take boost at a later stage, test and adjust after it is running to make sure you don't get kicked out of the drag strip before you can really get it working well. May also be worth looking into a built Turbo 400 with a transbrake.
The number one question when doing an engine swap is " What is the intended purpose of the car? " ( based on past vids I'm betting a burnout car to generate some content for the magazine. ) The number two question is " How much $ do we have to build the car ? " ( RE sponsors that want to showcase their products )
Not knowing these cars but being aware of the factory engine options, the front suspension isn't going to be happy with the hemi let alone the brakes. Do not pass go, do not collect $ 200, proceed directly to doing a replacement front half. This way you get a sturdy suspension / real brakes and lots of under hood room. That increased under hood room is the key point.
Doing a rear half is pretty much a given as the rear axle / suspension are not likely to tolerate much power.
What would I build if this car wandered into my shop? It would be a road race track day car with a front / rear half and cage. Power train would be an off the shelf engine / trans. The 2014 - 19 Cadillac CTS twin turbo V6 that makes 420 HP or the 2016-19 ATS-V at 464 HP. look interesting. Small package, all aluminum for light weight, great power as is.
We'd probably drag race it. But do it seriously
@@STREETMACHINETV In that case, run what you brung ( Hemi )
Scotty, I may be a ford man but this would be the greatest thing to gift my eyes
Personally i would do a lj fibreglass front end and make either a tilt up or a pin set up to remove the front end easily. You will gain some more room up front and will make working/servicing that monster block so much easier. But hey just my 2 cents
Interesting thought
Scotty will you fit if you cut that much out of the firewall? Like the idea of the hemi. What about the new half an ls from blueprint engines. 300hp na more with turbo ??
It'll all tucked up under the dash
That’d be an awesome build to watch, definitely chuck that hemi in!
Go the Hemi in the Torana!!!
Drop it in as is. Use any additional funds on the extensive fab work and driveline that’s going to be required to back it.
I was hoping on the Torana getting the Doritos but the Hemi is better 👍🏼
Go for it, what a rad build this would be
Definitely cutting out that firewall, and I reckon the steering rack is not safe either, but I reckon the hemi and lockdown wagon are destined for one another 👌
CRS have a V12 Ferrari engine in their LJ.. lots of chopping. what's the end use for the Torana? surely an LS would be lighter and have room for activities in the engine bay.
Looks mint. But you won't need a turbo/super on that Hemi. Burnouts for days with that stock motor, in that tiny chassis. It'll be a right handful.
OMG y'all gotta give the hemi a shot, will need some internals on the hemi if you want to push it. That little car is just so god dam cute. That vid series will go viral here in the US, mopar fans alone will jump on board and there's a million subs.
Putting the HEMI in is a unique as you can get. I am sure there will be a few people around happy to lend a hand with the conversion.
Hemirana or Torahemi. Just a thought.
I think it is a great idea. It is the true meaning of Hot Roding. Take the smallest car and put your biggest engine in it. I grew up in the 70's very poor. I built cars that I could afford. I was using all of the early 70's GM 455"s out of the full size cars, Oldsmobile, Buick, Pontiac and even some Cadillac 472's and 500's. I also used the turbo 400's and just shortened the driveshafts. Vega's and all of the Monza type cars worked well. Then all of the G-body cars that came with the V6's and the extra small v8's were very cheap and available. I was knocking one out every week.
Hemi all the way.. soon as you said that combo it made me instantly smile..
IZUZU 4JJ1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will fit it, is definitely different, there is a GM connection and capable of a lot of power.
add compound turbos
Hemi all the way Scotty!!!! Can see it will make you happy and I think everyone else and yeah is a little different for a change.