The Druzhinnik Champion actually can spawn with two horses, one is a bit slower but has more maneuverability, charge damage & hp. The Druzhinnik Champ spawned with the faster horse in the 400 meter dash. This was an oversight, glad someone caught it in the comments.
At this point I strongly believe that Aserai are a S tier faction. Best all-round infantry, best cavalry, good archers, economic powerhouse, superior geographic position. They deserve more love and recognition imo. I love your way of testing, you're simulating game scenarios which actually do happen, instead of simply throwing 2 specific units against each other in a straight match up. Yeah, some units might be better against units from the same tier in a straight fight, but they might not be as effective against lower tiers as others. So they should be tested against all unit tiers so that we have complete results.
They've been fantastic for years to the point that their archers kept getting nerfed. But their units tend to be more generalist and as a result don't always perform well 1v1 against their direct equivalents, which makes them perform below average in most comparison videos. But against mixed enemies like in this video and some recent Strat Gaming videos the Aserai troops really shine.
@@ShummaAwilum I think their main weakness is the low armor stats on lower tier troops, but if you can protect them the faction is very powerful overall. The Faris is one of my most feared enemies, they can kill swathes of top tier troops with jereeds.
Lol Aserai Vanguard Faris are literally based on the Mamluks who the heavy Muslim cavalry in many dynasties who mopped the floor with Mongols and Crusaders alike, so how is it that you wouldn't have expected this?
I've been playing Aserai for years to the point I have to force myself to play other areas. These results do not surprise me at all. Jav cav are terrifying, and the Aserai have fast horses. Their only really downsides are slightly lighter armor than average for t6 cav and a short lance.
@@ShummaAwilum Even then in real time situations on the campaign map,there is almost no way for them to lose. They field some seriously large armies, they have the best shielded infantry, the best cavalry, the second best archers in the game and even the 2 handed infantry, the Mamluk palace guard are brutish to say the least. Ofcourse they would easy eat away half of the campaign map.
@@eldeebcampeador no bro Faris is based on Arab Faris Faris is a title for a horseman Mamluks are deferent, mamluks are slave-warriors brought by Emirs and trained from childhood
They're great at killing other cavaliers and breaking infantry formations, so there are still great uses for them. They're also better than the Vanguard Faris in dismounted melee
Oh man, I thought I was going nuts when I switched my Elite Cataphracts for Aserai Faris and were getting almost 1.5 or so times the kills on average they really are just better cav in my case if i'm not dismounting them lol. Thanks for this video. My sanity is restored for another day :)
Yes ,I use them they are the best because Counch Lance+ javelin+good melee+ shield+ strongest armour For charge first hold fire them For close Fire at will
Ive been telling that the Aserai has the best army composition for a long time. Their cav and skirm-infantry is so damn scary and nobody really aware of it.
Everybody is aware of it, they just don't want to admit it. In almost any campaign I ever played that wasn't Aserai, Aserai dominated more than half the map.
1. no cav vs cav test? Faris and druzhinniks are no match for cataphracts or banner knights. Cav vs cav strength matters alot in field battle since you won't have chance to throw all your javs if you can't beat your enemy's cav. 2. Druzhinniks have two kinds of horse, Omor Trotter (speed 53 iirc) and Revyl Chaser(speed 57), which means itsrank in race should be downgraded. Nevertheless, appreciate the hardwork.
One thing I've noticed is how focused on charge are vlandian banner knights Their horses are just for that According to tests I've seen the speed of the horse doesn't change too much the damage ratio (TW maths anyway) That's why the damage is already shown in the horse stats I guess I've noticed every time banner knights go into charge they stomp everyone like ants, sometimes they even fail the stab but is so much damage they make in the first charge only with their horses that literally everything that hits them afterwards is gonna be deadly That's why I like so much vlandian knights, not just their style I love how charge centered their way to kill actually is I even adopted the same strategy buying the tyals horse Like 31 charge damage if I can recall With decent enough riding skills and the 10% riding banner you can easily destroy ANY bulk of infantry, at least half their hp just by going through them trying to reach the arrow boys This game has A LOT of little details you never see until you're really into the game I'm only 3 months in and it feels like a whole enciclopedia into another everytime Love this game, played the first 500mb version, fire and sword, warband And like 10 years later I get home sick and download this masterpiece I only play vanilla, still not getting bored, too much to do Love u guys
Ye the banner knights have the highest charge damage, but are also the slowest noble unit. As charge is calculated with charge damage and horse speed at the time of the charge, they don't actually do that much more charge damage as the other noble cav, but they still do more charge damage. In the tests, they overall failed to get more kills than other noble cavalry, as they never purposefully use their charge damage, it's always an accident as the AI can only target a specific enemy at a time, and that is with their weapon. But as infantry is grouped together, they do end up being somewhat run-over. Nevertheless, the banner knights increased charge damage isn't enough to make them better than other noble cavalry in most instances. Charge damage is OP if the player uses it as the player is FASTER than the ai given the same horse and riding skill and the player can purposefully use this charge damage.
Could you test highwayman and harami? Know theyre not as good as top tier cavalry but theyre very easy to get and with the right perks their wages can be lower than even same tier troops so knowing hiw they do could be good
Just a recommendation could you do something like the cavalry only but with only mercury troops it to me seems a lot harder and you can be a war profiteer but obviously just a suggestion
Surprised at the Khan's Guard losing with their glaives, but it's still no contest with mounted Khan's Guard using their bows, right? I assume they're still OP since they were left out of most tests.
what is the value of khan's guards? are they still s tier in all around or not worth the trouble to raise them. i used to see them as good as fians. is it not the case anymore?
They are def still s tier as they are the most versatile unit. They are good at playing all 4 roles. They will also decimate other cavalry when attacking them because the cav will get stuck and swing to their short one handed weapons while the Khan's guards have a two handed swingable polearm.
Heavy axemen/spearmen are p good, legionaries are still good, aserai vet infantry most versatile shield infantry unit. For shock infantry (two handed) imperial elite menavliaton are def my top choice). Fian champ is still the best archer.
Does this mean that your unit tier lists need an update? Is the Aserai Vanguard Faris now an S tier unit? I suspect that this is because of the outstanding mount the Aserai have, the Wadar Hotblood.
Vlandia has advantage at autoresolve, i believe. But in manual play they get obliterated by battanian hobos easily. Personally, i prefer a good shield wall. It will break any cav or noncav. Devs didn't make cav good yet. They just made infantry go in line more often it seems, so cav could do something. But dudes will poke even looters for ages to kill them, smh. Still, good job. Faris are really good as far as cav go.
The best cavalry without a shadow of a doubt. Always dominated the idiotic Khuzaits and the overrated Vlandian scum. The Aserai reign supreme over all.
The Druzhinnik Champion actually can spawn with two horses, one is a bit slower but has more maneuverability, charge damage & hp. The Druzhinnik Champ spawned with the faster horse in the 400 meter dash. This was an oversight, glad someone caught it in the comments.
finally, someone who actually tests them in battle instead of comparing stats
leave my boy Stat Gaming out of this:(
Just when I thought I was bored of bannerlord you inspired me to do an Aserai only campaign
When playing as Aserai character, i Imagine that Nimr guy being caught red handed seducing a random Banu Qild Lady by Aserai Executioner😂
Thank you, I wish the heavy Cav factions would get a balance change to help them compete more.
At this point I strongly believe that Aserai are a S tier faction. Best all-round infantry, best cavalry, good archers, economic powerhouse, superior geographic position. They deserve more love and recognition imo.
I love your way of testing, you're simulating game scenarios which actually do happen, instead of simply throwing 2 specific units against each other in a straight match up. Yeah, some units might be better against units from the same tier in a straight fight, but they might not be as effective against lower tiers as others. So they should be tested against all unit tiers so that we have complete results.
Fighting Aserai is just as Profitable, even more so than fighting the Empire😂. I am talking about post battle loot of course
Aserai OP. Honestly I love them but I also get bored of them because I need only to F1+F3 to win all...
Only because of recent updates.
They've been fantastic for years to the point that their archers kept getting nerfed. But their units tend to be more generalist and as a result don't always perform well 1v1 against their direct equivalents, which makes them perform below average in most comparison videos. But against mixed enemies like in this video and some recent Strat Gaming videos the Aserai troops really shine.
@@ShummaAwilum I think their main weakness is the low armor stats on lower tier troops, but if you can protect them the faction is very powerful overall. The Faris is one of my most feared enemies, they can kill swathes of top tier troops with jereeds.
i admit I bought Vlandian's Banner knights propaganda for my cav only run. gonna switch for the golden boys
I always knew the Sturgian Druzhinnik Champions are very strong but didn't expect that from the Aserai Vanguard Faris.
Lol Aserai Vanguard Faris are literally based on the Mamluks who the heavy Muslim cavalry in many dynasties who mopped the floor with Mongols and Crusaders alike, so how is it that you wouldn't have expected this?
I've been playing Aserai for years to the point I have to force myself to play other areas. These results do not surprise me at all. Jav cav are terrifying, and the Aserai have fast horses. Their only really downsides are slightly lighter armor than average for t6 cav and a short lance.
@@ShummaAwilum Even then in real time situations on the campaign map,there is almost no way for them to lose. They field some seriously large armies, they have the best shielded infantry, the best cavalry, the second best archers in the game and even the 2 handed infantry, the Mamluk palace guard are brutish to say the least. Ofcourse they would easy eat away half of the campaign map.
@@eldeebcampeador Not every bannerlord player is a history nerd like you and I my friend hahaha
@@eldeebcampeador no bro
Faris is based on Arab Faris
Faris is a title for a horseman
Mamluks are deferent, mamluks are slave-warriors brought by Emirs and trained from childhood
Cataphracts look coolest tho and thats all that matters
Style > Stats !
I agree too. Feel like medieval Mandalorians.
They're great at killing other cavaliers and breaking infantry formations, so there are still great uses for them. They're also better than the Vanguard Faris in dismounted melee
@@Aulvikdngr true
@@Aulvikdngr well you aren't going to use dismounted cavalry except for siege battles, in which the vanguard faris performed the best
Nice video! Finally some good testing, would love to see you make a video where you'd explain all the ups and downs of the factions and their units
Oh man, I thought I was going nuts when I switched my Elite Cataphracts for Aserai Faris and were getting almost 1.5 or so times the kills on average they really are just better cav in my case if i'm not dismounting them lol. Thanks for this video. My sanity is restored for another day :)
Quality work mate , good to have you back
Amazing find man. Thank you for doing this and settling the debate!
I can't belive that faris are the best. Will need to actually test them myself. Great job
Yes ,I use them they are the best because
Counch Lance+ javelin+good melee+ shield+ strongest armour
For charge
first hold fire them
For close
Fire at will
They were the best in real life, so they sure as hell would be the best in a videogame.
Awesome work, loved the editing and pacing!
Ive been telling that the Aserai has the best army composition for a long time. Their cav and skirm-infantry is so damn scary and nobody really aware of it.
Everybody is aware of it, they just don't want to admit it. In almost any campaign I ever played that wasn't Aserai, Aserai dominated more than half the map.
Thanks for so great testing
We need a cav vs cav test bacth
I feel like a test vs other cav is missing for a full picture
It seems the throw precision is improved making faris the new king of heavy cav.
1. no cav vs cav test? Faris and druzhinniks are no match for cataphracts or banner knights. Cav vs cav strength matters alot in field battle since you won't have chance to throw all your javs if you can't beat your enemy's cav.
2. Druzhinniks have two kinds of horse, Omor Trotter (speed 53 iirc) and Revyl Chaser(speed 57), which means itsrank in race should be downgraded.
Nevertheless, appreciate the hardwork.
Like always, amazing.
This surprised me, but then again I just had my entire cav line of Vlandians get absolutely shrecked by some random Battanian noble.
And here i was doing javelin only run with battanian units and losing a lot
Time to do aserai run
One thing I've noticed is how focused on charge are vlandian banner knights
Their horses are just for that
According to tests I've seen the speed of the horse doesn't change too much the damage ratio (TW maths anyway)
That's why the damage is already shown in the horse stats I guess
I've noticed every time banner knights go into charge they stomp everyone like ants, sometimes they even fail the stab but is so much damage they make in the first charge only with their horses that literally everything that hits them afterwards is gonna be deadly
That's why I like so much vlandian knights, not just their style
I love how charge centered their way to kill actually is
I even adopted the same strategy buying the tyals horse
Like 31 charge damage if I can recall
With decent enough riding skills and the 10% riding banner you can easily destroy ANY bulk of infantry, at least half their hp just by going through them trying to reach the arrow boys
This game has A LOT of little details you never see until you're really into the game
I'm only 3 months in and it feels like a whole enciclopedia into another everytime
Love this game, played the first 500mb version, fire and sword, warband
And like 10 years later I get home sick and download this masterpiece
I only play vanilla, still not getting bored, too much to do
Love u guys
Ye the banner knights have the highest charge damage, but are also the slowest noble unit. As charge is calculated with charge damage and horse speed at the time of the charge, they don't actually do that much more charge damage as the other noble cav, but they still do more charge damage.
In the tests, they overall failed to get more kills than other noble cavalry, as they never purposefully use their charge damage, it's always an accident as the AI can only target a specific enemy at a time, and that is with their weapon. But as infantry is grouped together, they do end up being somewhat run-over. Nevertheless, the banner knights increased charge damage isn't enough to make them better than other noble cavalry in most instances.
Charge damage is OP if the player uses it as the player is FASTER than the ai given the same horse and riding skill and the player can purposefully use this charge damage.
How tf does the cavalry faction have the worst cavalry bruh
When we needed him most, he came back
Finally glad to see the druzhinnik get the respect they deserve
Great video. I was only curious which cavalry did better against other cavalry shame Is the only test not performed
Could you test highwayman and harami? Know theyre not as good as top tier cavalry but theyre very easy to get and with the right perks their wages can be lower than even same tier troops so knowing hiw they do could be good
Unpopular opinion
Top 3 : Aserai, Sturgian and Khuzait... and are they my favorite factions (especially the Khuzaits) ❤
It's more that half the player base are vlandian/empire fans and everyone else into one of the other factions or doesn't care.
Just a recommendation could you do something like the cavalry only but with only mercury troops it to me seems a lot harder and you can be a war profiteer but obviously just a suggestion
I wonder if Battanian Cav would fare better if player micro-manages instead of F1 + F3 in these tests
If you include Khan's guard in the test. What is the rank?
I tell people not to sleep on the faris but they be simping for banner knights hardcore
Banner Knights aren't even worth what they cost. I'd prefer to use crossbows playing as Vlandia.
Surprised at the Khan's Guard losing with their glaives, but it's still no contest with mounted Khan's Guard using their bows, right? I assume they're still OP since they were left out of most tests.
Khans are the best at mounted melee combat
funny that the cavalry faction has suprisingly bad cavalry and the supposed infantry faction has suprisingly good cavalry :D
Will there be other classes? Waiting
what is the value of khan's guards? are they still s tier in all around or not worth the trouble to raise them. i used to see them as good as fians. is it not the case anymore?
They are def still s tier as they are the most versatile unit. They are good at playing all 4 roles. They will also decimate other cavalry when attacking them because the cav will get stuck and swing to their short one handed weapons while the Khan's guards have a two handed swingable polearm.
Tough g💪🏾 what’s the best infantry now? I’m new to this game and also is the fians still the best archer?
Heavy axemen/spearmen are p good, legionaries are still good, aserai vet infantry most versatile shield infantry unit. For shock infantry (two handed) imperial elite menavliaton are def my top choice). Fian champ is still the best archer.
Do a siege attack instead of siege defense since cavalry are more likely to be in an attack party and not in a garrison
Umm, I did both
I see. It appears they suck at attack @@Mr.Chicken
do a best 'cavalry vs cavalry' mounted and dismounted
Khans guard will destroy everyone, mounted or dismounted.
Do the same with Infantry, I bet the Imperial Legionary will redeem the nerfed-to-hell failure of the Elite Cataphract
No cav vs cav?
cool video
God bless the aserai
Khan's guards are still the best cavalry. If you test all the cavaliers against eachother you will understand how
Do you use any mods?
Does this mean that your unit tier lists need an update? Is the Aserai Vanguard Faris now an S tier unit?
I suspect that this is because of the outstanding mount the Aserai have, the Wadar Hotblood.
Yes the tier list is somewhat outdated. The vanguard faris is S Tier now.
Vlandia has advantage at autoresolve, i believe. But in manual play they get obliterated by battanian hobos easily.
Personally, i prefer a good shield wall. It will break any cav or noncav. Devs didn't make cav good yet. They just made infantry go in line more often it seems, so cav could do something. But dudes will poke even looters for ages to kill them, smh.
Still, good job. Faris are really good as far as cav go.
Quite surprised with Khan's poor performance there. Kinda wonder how this happened.
Banner Knights are the best looking so meh, still using as primary cav
Khan's guard dominate all cav in the game
You'd think the Faris would take the day off being N1...... ill see myself out
so using elite cataphracts is no longer worth 😢?
dismount them, they will destroy cavalry that's on full charge. They are the best pikemen in the game and pretty good at dismounted melee combat.
Video idea. Women troops only ? Now that would be interestingly difficult. Good luck
Damn, vlandia kinda fallen
Not too worry!
Sharpshooters and Seargeants still dominate
@@sethanpayne6324 rhodoks carry the legacy
My boys battanians😂
All that just for Fian Champions to solo.
My face when I learn about the stats of cavalry and realise I’ve wasted thousands on useless cav. :,)
You’re god
This is so fucked, Vlandians literally have nothing now.
Never knew battanian cav sucked this much lol
*promosm*
First
Vlandian cavalry is overrated
The best cavalry without a shadow of a doubt. Always dominated the idiotic Khuzaits and the overrated Vlandian scum. The Aserai reign supreme over all.