Only reason I can think of for groups that stay with them: they don't want to leave their staff team behind. They've worked with them for YEARS and developed good bonds, routines, connections with their stylists, hair/makeup team, manager, body guards, etc. It's not as easy as just leaving all that behind, and I doubt another company that wants to sign a group or single individual wants to go through the trouble of hiring an entire staff team. So they can feel stuck there. It's sad.
Actually it’s because being in a big company makes everything easier their staff treat them like kids to the point that Sooyoung learned to buy ticket planes by herself after leaving the company due to her new staff wouldn’t do it for her
Working with a big agency, you also use their connections. If theyve been good to you so far, I dont see why leave unless they are abusing you. Better the devil you know than the one you dont.
Artists fear to leave SM since they have seen what happened to the former three members of tvxq (jaejoong and the other 2) who sued SM.Despite winning the lawsuit,they have been blacklisted in the industry due to SM influence for 14 years now (since 2009).They couldn't promote on musics and variety shows, their songs are not played in radio or else.Nothing.They have been releasing great musics for more than 14 years but you will never find a single performance of them on musics shows,variety shows or end of the year awards. And for those arguing it's not the case , A LAW litterally was voted by the NATIONAL ASSEMBLY to prevent the blacklist and it's known as the ''JYJ law'' (google it,it's out there).
@@neomuneochicken4585 Is it any different now?? NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!! Neither the company's mistreatment towards them nor the fact that EXO is their biggest group of all time.
SM revenue is increased 180% than last year, bigger than other company growth. So what's now Exol? Wake up from your dream, EXO is in their own downfall.
One thing I've noticed is that these companies don't want their artists to be _too_ successful. It's the ones who have success who start getting ideas that they may be better off without their companies taking all their money and restricting their freedom. Regardless of my feelings on the JYJ case, it was not right of SM to basically blackmail other media companies by threatening to pull their artists from tv lineups and such if they ever promoted the members of JYJ. I don't think they could pull the same thing today because their influence is much less than it used to be and right now they're going through an internal power struggle.
Even if the artists do get too successful, treat them right and they'll still consider contract renewal. Look at BTS. All of them are soloists as well but also work loyal to their company.
You just don't have to put any drama toward company. SM still big and have big power in the industry. If your don't have bigger escape plan don't even dare to put on lawsuit. Lol.
@@devitadartias Indeed they do, but it doesn't compare to back then. Still, it is unwise to file a lawsuit unless you have airtight proof the company is in the wrong and are prepared for the strong possibility that your career will be over after doing so.
This is what happens when you get money hungry. It will never end well and you will be exposed for treating people like shit. If companies like SM prioritized artistry, promotion, and keeping their idols healthy in fair contracts, they could be thriving right now with idols happily renewing their contracts and making them more money. But instead they go the greedy route and end up with all their idols trying to run away for their own well being 🤦 truly pathetic.
A few years ago, SM was the most powerful entertainment company in Korea. It was home to powerful groups that led the entire second generation, such as Girls' Generation, SHINee, Super Junior, and FX. Even with the third generation, groups like EXO, Red Velvet, and NCT continued to achieve huge profits, but The fourth generation is completely different and it's all over. Especially with the development of Hype, groups such as leserafim new jeans enhypen txt are taking the lead and little by little SM is disappearing from the limelight... actually ...it is not just SM, but even YG and JYP, the same thing happens to them... at The third generation (2014 -2019) K-Pop has known fierce competition from the four major companies, but now the competition has become less
I don't think SM is disappearing just because new fans are interested in Hybe artists. Kpop has always been a competitive market, but from what I've seen so far, SM is not weak for it to last all those years at the top. Even now they're the top company in big 3. Regardless of Hybe, since it's newly established, but SM is deep rooted. Artists stayed because of LSM, but now since the company's goal has changed, and now they're blatantly sabotaging them, who would want to stay?
@@hara2009 No, that's a misunderstanding, I meant that even 3rd generation groups like EXO and others were very successful.....and SM's stumble happened with 4th generation...sorry, my English is not that perfect because it's not my first language.
It's a shame how SM went down to this. They were a powerful company in the 2.000's and early 2.010's, and most (if not all) of their artists were titans in the industry. Now, I barely hear about SM artist anymore. Aespa's management is HORRIBLE, Taeyeon's management is poor and she has to do most of the work herself, EXO members are having hard issues with SM lately, Red Velvet is basically forgotten and locked in SM's basement... Is a shame tbh. I used to stan SM as a whole, but now I can't just for the lack of comebacks and promotions, and I only stan artists I truly like (Taeyeon, aespa and Red Velvet mainly). Nowadays I stan JYP artist much more (Stray Kids and Twice mainly) since they have lots of comebacks and things going on.
It wouldn’t have done anything. Her is very niche so she wouldn’t have brought as many eyeballs on the collab, and her fanbase is not trying to hear anything kpop related and feel such collabs are forced
GOOD START! Keep refusing or terminate these big agency contracts until they learn to treat their idols better. Independent is the way to go. Own your own music rights, KNOW your financial status and actually GET paid, control your schedule and image, pick your own sound. Like to me the only reason why an idol is even apart of the company isn’t to make music but is to be an “idol”. Get famous and maybe sing some songs. But with the restrictions in placed in these big agencies contracts there no way majority are actual artists but instead puppets used to make money.
Exactly this! You’re absolutely right. The issue with it is that by taking the path to be an independent musician, for these big name artists, the industry they belong/belonged to prior, will not let it happen. It’s more than just signing a contract, anything you say or do that goes against what these major companies like or tolerate, can blacklist you. Not only that but blackmailing, manipulation and other can play into this. I honestly feel sorry for the idols that are trying to leave, they must have been through horrible things to want that.
@@honiismeanI will say yes this is something THAT can happen however it’s clear KPOP as an industry has shown it’s not the company that holds power but a fan base.
@@honiismeanand I only say this should be the route is because the American music market is showing that companies actually DO NOT hold as much power as they like to think. Yes they might be blacklisted from a show but will be greenlit for another. Depends on HOW you want to achieve that fame. Do you want to put in the work or take the mega label route?
People need to realize something. If an artist leaves it could be for various reasons, some don't want to be idols for the rest of their lives, some don't like the managment, some want to open their own company. It's just like any regular corporation worker. Newer generations are very unlikely to stay with a company for more than 5 years. Their are so many opportunties nowadays. Most of these artists have no hard feelings toward SME, both parties got what they wanted. Also SME had the lowest turnover rate out of any company so they must be doing something right.
Wow someone with common sense. this is the first comment Ive read so far with actual logic, everyone else thinks they know everything that happens behind closed doors and talk about how a company should be ran, but nobody that says that runs a billion dollar company.. The Irony
I honestly believe as a fan of neither that if SM had promoted EXO properly they would have stood at BTS's place as a worldwide group. That is completely on SM.
As an exol - please stop 😂 don’t even put these two groups next to each other. EXO would never be popular in the west coz their music is far from just one direction.
Sure keep telling yourself that, BTS didn't play the generic kpop game from the start and thats why they are at the top, they are self made artists not some company produced idols who get everything on a platter, in terms of sheer artistry and music BTS will always be relevant and on top.
I actually agree with you, as an older Kpop fan they were MAD popular a while ago, and I thought they were maybe heading that direction? But SM did them dirty.
For EXO it’s slave contract,heavy under promotion and mistreatment all in one. I’m so happy they’re leaving one by one from that shitty company. I’ll support any EXO member leaving SM.
No offense but other fandoms (newer) don't understand what EXO has gone through for a decade. Shitty treatment for members and fans for a decade, can you imagine? We even lost 3 members by lawsuit. I really really wish your faves wouldn't experience this, I really do. So please stop hating them, just understand and support them. D.O. is my ult bias, and I think this is not a sudden decision, and he's not going to leave EXO. Members still call him "Uri Kyungsoo" to this day. LSM teacher is no longer in charge of SM, and D.O.'s mentor Yoo Young Jin left SM this year too. So there's nothing to do with SM except EXO promotions. PLEASE SUPPORT ALL THE MEMBERS, WE ARE ONE, SARANGHAJA🥰
@@devitadartiassuju doesnt successfully negotiates too,they are lucky bcs siwon's father is chaebol they had profits in sm bcs suju fans bought the shares.Seem like you are news of suju case..
Any fan from a SM group or soloist knows all the frustations and stress we have to go because SM's mismanagement and incompetence. BUT exols...oh boy I swear we are trauma bonded with EXO after going through the most hardships ever, it's so unfair istg.
Also, the last NCT 127 album had a lot of problems, the smini of Doyoung was wrong printed again. The Albums was in sold Out before the album was came out, a lot of preorders were cancelled and SM didn't distribut the in the stores till the 5th day after the album came out.
I can't help but think about Onew from Shinee. The fact that he is not there for the latest promotions for the group has me wondering. I feel that they ran him into the ground with his promotions for his last solo album. And also key made a very interesting comment not long ago when asked about renewing their contracts with SM, saying that if they left they would all leave together . So I guess we shall see.
yaah. that's right. onew is taking a rest due to health issues. and i'm glad that they are giving him a proper vacation. because i recently discovered that NCT TAEIL was called for comeback promotions even if he was badly injured from the motorbike accident. @@catladycb814
I'll tell you whats happening. Kpop artists are finding out they're getting better deals and more freedom going solo and/or signing with western labels. Sony is about to corner the market!
I'm surprised SHINee renewed their contracts with SM this year. Sometimes I wonder if the true reason Onew has been on indefinite hiatus is because of contract reasons. I know he has health conditions but he isn't having any activities in 2024 either and the company hasn't updated about him. Maybe SHINee doesn't wanna break fans' hearts with any news of Onew leaving.
The biggest strength of SM is Lee Soo Man but their biggest weakness is also Lee Soo Man. We all can hate him for his money greed but ngl he is a really good producer. He is a genius in making and choosing the music for his idols, so that's probably one of the reasons why a lot of SM idols decided to stay despite how badly they were being treated by the company. They respect him a lot for this. That's why the rumour about SM artists leaving has been around since that whole power fight going on in the company. People already saw this coming when Lee Soo Man left the company. That's why I'm not surprised when there is news about SM artists leaving the company.
As you said, Lee Soo Man is indeed a very key figure in the development of SM Entertainment. His music selection and production style have become an important reason for the success of many artists who belong to SM Entertainment, which is one of the reasons why many artists choose to stay in SM Entertainment even if they are treated unfairly within the company. The artists' respect for Lee Soo Man's talent and professional ability in music is an important factor in their long-term cooperation with the company. However, with Lee Soo Man's departure, SM Entertainment has undergone some changes in the future music direction and management style, which no longer meet the expectations or career plans of some artists. Therefore, they finally decided to leave the company, and SM Entertainment also faced unprecedented challenges. Especially in the context of the power fight within the company, the issue of whether artists stay or go has aroused more attention. Although the current people who control SM Entertainment seem to be not doing a good job in maintaining the company culture, but I will still continue to pay attention to the future development trend of SM Entertainment. However, in a company like SM that relies on its soul figure, I really want to know how the company can maintain its core competitiveness and cultural heritage when this figure leaves? Especially in the entertainment industry, artists’ choice of whether to renew a contract is not only based on economic benefits, but also on trust in the company’s culture, future development direction, and the quality of music production. This is a question worth pondering.
For EXO, its mistreatment. Everyone got 2024 Season Greetings except EXO. Thats just one example. Now when their shares went down, they released a dumb excuse and said that it was because their greetings would be filmed in November due to solo schdeules. As if.
I had no idea. Last year they said Chamyeol wasn’t part of the Seasons Greeting because they were shot in spring or something. So I thought, maybe theres a chance Kai might be in next year‘s. Fuck SM. I think they did the same with Shinee as well
I entered kpop fandom thru JYJ and DBSK/TVXQ before they split. I'm glad it isn't forgotten, because JYJ went through such bs for decades, being kept off all the popular music shows. Jaejoong and Junsu have their own companies now, and i hope are the gateways toa new era of fair treatment of artists.
EXOLs had to buy ads for a comeback MV coz SM won't, the music videos are so minimalist, collab offers declined, big opportunities wasted. I don't know about your faves but if they had to sign an exclusive contract that means they might've been threatened coz that's what they did to Baekhyun. EXOLs put so much money in that company they could've treated the artists better, not as a. cash cow because soon it's gonna bite them in the ass.
SM did the same thing to NCT with their newest album "Fact Check". They didn't print enough copies and falsified the numbers to be very low. Also the misprints of the album - SM doesn't give a f
I also personally think it has a lot to do with Lee Soomin himself like love him or hate him. He was a real backbone for this company and people forget just how invested he was with these artist as people too. They have been numerous articles in interviews over the years for members of these groups have talked about how when they’ve had a hard time are they felt some type away just like with Jay YP they would go to him and talk to him about certain things and he’d help them through it or he try to do what he can to help them with whatever idea or Vision that he might have like this man to a certain degree definitely cared about the artistry in the artist, but like he was also a businessman at the end of the day. . So late getting rid of him was probably one of the stupidest things that the people at that company ever thought of doing. I genuinely believe there’s probably a handful idols who’s not going to leave because of the staff and the relationships that they’ve created with some of the people who work there, but there’s also quite a lot of them who have talked about. It have stated for years that he only reason why they stayed in. The company was because of Lee Soomin was because of the way that he did things and interacted with him, even after his step down as CEO, and he was just there is a producer and a creative mind and now that he’s gone I feel like we’re probably going to see quite a few of the OG idols, and probably even a couple of the newer ones leaving SM entertainment because there’s no reason for them to stay anymore. I remember seeing couple of people talking about this, but also Val why other companies don’t have idols leaving for this reason and I think we’re people tend to forget that music JYPE or HYBE while the original founders and creators of those companies have some down as CEO they’re still working and a part of those companies they did not get kicked out of the company by the people working for them. They just no longer have that CEO role they’re still the biggest shareholders in their company they still are considered producers in their company. They still are considered creative mines in their company so even though their companies might have changed in terms of who the CEO is and how it might be ran to a certain degree they still have those integrated people who, for a lot of those idols is a big factor on why they would want to stay with that company in the first place.
I’m sure leaving SM on bad terms (which is probably any time they leave) has more ramifications on the artists like being blacklisted from things, or losing ability to work with certain producers, songwriters, directors, etc. Unless they have huge connections and money/investments to start over from scratch, it might be simply too much for them to do it on their own without SMs backing. (Though, Key, I’m rooting for you to create your own empire one day! One day! 😂)
Yeah ... Remember what happened to Jessica back in 2014 ... She got blacklisted, suffered a lot and had to recreate her self in China .. I'm all for Exo leaving SM but history repeating itself is what scares me the most .... 💔💔💔
I don't know if you know... but 16 of 26 members of NCT have pas 7 years since their debut... but SM just says that their contracts won't end this year or the next one, their contract is for around 9-10 years contract...
Kyungsoo's case is different frome the other Exo members tho. It was clearly mentioned that he was the ONLY one who did not renew his contract. Which means all of his activities will be handled by his new established company. While the remaining members are required to Establish their own company if they wish to have somehow freedom to do what they want as a Soloists. But this condition is under the new Exclusive Contract that they signed. Which means they have no choice but to make their own company. The only member who has the freedom to do what he wants as a Soloists is kyungsoo Aka D.O...Everyone else is still under The NEW EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT.
D.O case is the same like Kyuhyun and Super Junior Donghae & Eunhyuk. Khyuhyun even join other agency Antenna to handle his solo activity, D&E established their own management. Even during their Fancon World Tour, D&E able to manage the transistion smoothly, between under SM Management then half of the tour manage by their own company. And so far they are doing good with SM even they still able to joking about non-SM member aka Half-blood. Luckily, Super Junior know the priority is their group, so they dont have any schedule problem. Still manage to join SM Town, Kcon and many group activity under SM. Let's hope all SM senior idol will follow this path, the blueprint already there. No need to backlash SM too much negativity if you are not ready to set up the path for your departure. Do it like this 4 legends, Kyuhyun, D&E dan D.O.
@@UlfaOmegI'm sorry, but I'm not really familiar with the people you have mentioned but if they were able to join different company after their contract ends (As you stated) then that means Kyungsoo probably has the same case as them (Kyuhyun and others). The thing is excluding kyungsoo the other exo members are not allowed to join the other establishments. Kyungsoo, on the other hand have the freedom whether to join other well established company or choose to just make his own Entertainment. But in this case, he chose the latter. The 7 remaining exo members are required to Established their company if they want to pursue their individual career more but still they're still under SM. This condition as I mentioned is under the New Exclusive Contract that they signed. But I think they really made a wrong decision about this one 😅 I mean if we are to think about it SM still have a say with their future activity as a Soloists and probably Sm can still earn their profit from the company that they will established in the future while kyungsoo can get all for himself and Sm is now out of his individual business (Except as an Exo member). I'm pointing this out b'coz I think a lot of people sort of misunderstood his current departure situation. If they really want to understand his case there's a recent released article. It was well explained and the choice of words are easy to understand. n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/469/0000767757
Well Kyuhyun is Super Junior member, he is well knows as one of well known solist in Korea/Kpop industry. As well with Super Junior D&E. If you are not familiar with them, I guess you are really new into Kpop and not watching much EXO content because Super Junior known babying EXO back then. They are in the same center with Exo too. If you still don't recognize them, I suggest you to read articles about the departured of Kyuhyun, Donghae and Eunhyuk for their solo activity, and how they manage the issue very smooth. I guess both them and SM come with a good term about this case. And hopefully EXO can learn something from their Sunbae. Ahh Donghae & Eunhyuk established their own company too. So I think SM is already open with every possible opportunity, probably it's just the matter about how the idols dealing with the conract.
@@UlfaOmeg Well it's really great that they chose to built their own company (Donghae & Eunhyuk). But as I mentioned, Sm might be open for any opportunity for the remaining Exo's members but that is still under their new exclusive contract. It's not like they have the entire freedom. SM's Condition for the new exclusive contract is to establish your own company and be somehow free to pursue your career as a soloist, if not you can't do whatever you want as an individual artist as well. Kyungsoo is the only one who has the freedom to do whatever he desire in the future without SM butting in his business. I'm proud of kyungsoo tho, he really stick to his decision despite all the pressure. SM did him dirty with his talents he can be much more bigger than he is already. So this news is really a good take for him. He really made a right decision of not renewing or else he will be stock more in that dungeon. Btw, I've heard of Kyuhyun and I know the he is one of the best vocalists in K-pop as well. I also like his voice I am just not really familiar with the remaining ones as I am very much focusing more on my fav 😅 I hope you don't take this in a negative way.
@Ms_Ella I still don't get it when you mention he can do whatever he wants as a soloist. If he still wants to work as an EXO, of course D.O., and the rest of EXO members have to agree with SM conditions. How they will make the group running if they don't set the rule about group project. It will just make the group more scramble. I don't think SM will let EXO leave either. I heard this a lot, that SM never disband any of their group. It's a tough battle here, but hopefully, EXO can find their way to satisfy their needs and the fandom.
Junsu and Jaejoong are the ultimate idols. But they have to go through the blacklist from entire industry after leaving SM. That's the big reason they aren't popular among new fans In future it won't happen because JYJ law is there to protect every artist from blacklisted by entertainment companies
SM contracts are fvcked up, especially with the military gap that they take advantage of. NCT is halfway there but I hope RIIZE members are free from this slave treatment.
The only one that I remember that’s LEFT LEFT was Sunny. But she’s LSM’s niece, so that seemed like a given. And the EXO members are techniquely still under them, except for solo stuff. They basically pulled a SJ, there but not there. I think you’re making this more sensational than it is.
They didn’t pull SJ, Exo don't have their own label or something. Tbh there is a possibility that gathering all the members together will be very hard, remember our Lay also said, he is not re signing but will be part of EXO, D.O. also didn’t resign, I think soon, we will hear all members left that group,gathering all the busy soloist, actors, ambassador from different companies and making them to comeback will be hard.
@@SadiaIslamShouki EXO don’t have their own label, but individual members DO. When I say left, I mean cut ties completely. As long as they’ll remain active as EXO under SM, they’re technically SM artists. The only they won’t be and still be EXO, is if they all just leave. Lay is a different situation all together. He was never going to re-sign under SM. And the reasoning has nothing to do with SM and it’s management. He’s a successful soloist, actor, and personality in China who has his own successful company. The second he went to China and then didn’t promote with EXO again… the writing was on the wall. He may be a member in perpetuity, but his presence is more spiritual than physical. Barring an appearance in China, you probably won’t see him with EXO again promoting. But you are right about it being difficult to see them promote as EXO with busy solo schedules. Some fans seem to think them leaving SM will get more group activities but it’s doubtful.
@@jessi5288 sadly I think EXO Won't have Comebacks anymore. Maybe when Kai and Sehun comeback, Suho can pull Lay somehow with lot of planning,setting everyone's schedule etc.And that would be kinda the last CB. And this is from a die hard Exo-l.Just practically I don’t find any way of getting freedom from SM.The only way to have 15 years/20 years anniversary special song/cb without drama is like this, " we will work under SM for group activities " but also it’s hard to set everyone's schedule, so it’s not possible to have comebacks every years.and slowly cut ties from SM.But if they manage to comeback often(like once a year) like that would be huge dedication and sacrifices from the members.
That clause that says if you don’t release enough albums, you have to extend your contract does not incentivize the company to actually promote the artist so that they can keep holding them for longer.
If they want to leave SM Entertainment, VERY GOOD, because they truly deserve much better. I recently learned that three Super Junior members are leaving, which are Kyuhyun, Donghae, and Eunhyuk. I'm glad they're still a part of Super Junior, but this shows that SM Entertainment is just terrible with their artists. I'm actually surprised only 3 Super Junior members left, and the remaining 6 resigned.
Quite a few of the super Junior members signed individual contracts with different agencies a while ago. These three were the last ones that had sm managing their individual schedules. As far as Ik all of them resigned the group contract
I also heard that out of the three main agencies that SM pays the lowest amount percentage to their artists which in my opinion is absurd I mean they make a lot of money but they only give I think it's like 5% to the artist and that's ridiculous And then on top of that how they treat their artists 🤷😕
What’s crazy is that law about the 7 year contract cause it’s been 7 years since half of nct debuted but sm stated that none of thier contracts were ending this year wich makes it so much more suspicious
I miss sm’s golden era i remember i got into kpop in 2011 when snsd suju f(x) and shinee were consistently promotin. When red velvet came out sm started to ghost f(x) not promoting them as they did it before, i’m not blaming anyone but Sm. That’s the first toxic/ghosting behavior i remember from sm. I remember f(x) hd to fight to get a tour but when they finally got it they disbanded. -- Look at Jessica’s case: after the departure sm started to give their idols the chance to end negotiations with the company but maintaining a place in the groups, that’s the way Sooyoung Seohyun Tiffany Donghae Kyu and Eunhyuk are not part of sm but are still allowed to promote with their groups. If this compatibility had been given to Jessica thing would have been so different.
She herself made a mistake, that's why it didn't work out with her the way it did for the other 3 SNSD members or other groups, she negotiated to leave her newly signed SM contract (that all members newly signed in 2014) to join coridel entertainment in 2015 when all of them where supposed to renew in 2017, because she thought maybe coridel entertainment (a nugu agency)would will continue to make her "big" but it only got worse, the Chinese promotional company sued Coridel entertainment, then she went into the dungeon like their other artists like 'playback their girl group where are they ' today? , Even Krystal whose group was mismanaged didn't dare try to leave before her contract ended, she waited patiently until 2019. other members played safe and stuck around SM until their contract ended in 2017, even though they all had complains against the company, like seohyun saying they rejected a drama role for her in 2016, once it was time to leave they were able to negotiate properly with SM bcos they upheld their contracts, even Sunny mentioned she can still have future activities with the group, despite how her uncle LSM was kicked out
@@habshi0974agreed, it was just a wrong timing decision what messed everything. No one will knows if she left or was kicked out. If she left could have been bad timing obviously, she should have waited a bit more. I hope she was never backstabbed by the other members. In krystal case no one knows if they have another projects that was worth the fight they stayed and were totally forgotten by sm.
@@Ban-nq2gy She had a shady bf at the time ofcourse the girls must have been cautious ,so many bad rumours flying around was already starting to taint their image and SM also wouldn't want that cuz it's business and could turn off sponsors and brand deals , and my point still stands she didn't sue SM so it must've been expected even though it was abrupt whatever it was I'm glad the girls still kept the group name so that they can produce more in future
JYJ really suffered a lot after that lawsuit. They really tried to make a difference but almost nobody supported them. Now other members are quitting for the same reason.
@@bisolaadebija1511 No problem. They were part of DBSK (Mirotic) from SM and they sued the company and split. 2 of the members remained in SM. They were the biggest before splitting.
Out of all mistreated groups under that company Exo still somehow the most mistreated one even though they brought the most money.🤷(not including f(x) because they are just gone)
Just saw 1.RedVelvet Yeri uploading hd pics of their teasers in her bubble, coz Sm uploaded low quality img🙄🙄 2. Wtf did they do to Nct 127 Fact check🤐🤐 it was a mess . No stock for albums, no pre order details, mv delayed at last min 3. Wayv's remix being delayed coz they were still editing after putting out date for release(kun seemed very angry) 4. RIIZE just debuted & after a month they had 1st cb with teasers being released 1 week before release THAT COMPANY IS A FRKN MESS, BOTH UNCLE & NEPHEW ruined it. I think RV too will leave after their new cb
I've been an SM stan since 2009 and I stan every single group in that company (From Super Junior to RIIZE). I've seen it all. The only thing SM is good at is selecting and training their artist. Their system is awful from the start. They are always pushing their artist to their limit. They don't care abt loyalty at all. The first cracks that I saw was in 2014 when Luhan and Kris left Exo due to SM disregarding their health issues just to keep up with their schedule. It was solidify when Jessica was kicked out of the group. That's when I realized that the company is really awful. Sure, being an SM Group will garantee a success since every single artist that they put out gets instant recognition, but the way they treat their artist is really really bad. The only reason why other artist stay in the company was because of either their sense of loyalty (since almost every trainee in SM was there since they were children) or they don't feel confident enough to break away since being in the bad side of SM is never good.
If only companies knew that the secret to making incredible profits and having loyal employees/idols and customers/fans is to treat everyone with actual love and respect. Too many go for the quick buck and exploit both employees/idols and customers/fans. But if you want something that will last a long time and only grow respect and admiration, begin with the basic premise that you do right by everyone.
As a fan,It feels like a dream to see your favourite artists stay active in the group and company for eternal. I did like it when i saw that sm is the type of entertainment agency to maintain their longevity. Sm is diverse when it comes to music or stage. They didn't even let exo's talent be judged by featuring them with western artists. But the thing is true that sm don't get much in views or streams despite trying their best with every project. Actually,Sm is the best entertainment agency we r failing to protect. Sm deserves better.
@@anistardi I am just a fan of lee soo man, bang shi yuk, park jin young, yang hyun suk. I personally think that we all have something to learn from them.
I feel so bad for the SM artists :( they sign these contracts thinking it’ll be an amazing company to work with due to SNSD etc…but the beast behind the curtains is far worse than anyone can imagine. #TEAMHYBE #TEAMJYP
Jyp keeps giving itzy bad Korean songs, they didn't promote got7 well, overworks twice, force their trainees to go on strict diets (Momo was forced to eat only ice cubes for a week and the other members only ate rice)
Lee Soo Man removed, SM fell. SM always treated artists poorly and had bad contracts but I feel if Lee Soo Man was there, he would agree to settle things with his artists more peacefully than the current CEO and try to make changes in the contracts if that meant retaining EXO, the breadwinner of the company.
Artists fear to leave SM since they have seen what happened to the former three members of tvxq (jaejoong,junsu,yc) who sued SM.Despite winning the lawsuit,they have been blacklisted in the industry due to SM influence for 14 years now (since 2009).They couldn't promote on musics and variety shows, their songs are not played in radio or else.Nothing.They have been releasing great musics for more than 14 years but you will never find a single performance of them on musics shows,variety shows or end of the year awards.
I just don't understand why SM would do that, what do they gain from not promoting their idols well enough like other companies? geniune question actually
Because that theory is nonsense. IMO they prioritize quality over quantity, they dont want to oversaturate the market and they dont have more capacity.
It’s because of money. Otherwise why would they decline when some of the EXO members wanted to see their financial statements? The members of EXO themselves even said they had unfair wages and slave contracts. Why else would the top (don’t remember whether it was LSM or his nephew) that did tax evasion? They are just greedy for even more money while not giving much to their actual artists. Even after it was revealed by some EXO members I’m surprised that the POLICE isn’t doing more to uncover any or look through all artists contracts that under SM.
@@aligensaLooks like a SM Stan. How’s it feel being a Stan for a company that treats their groups and idols as if they weren’t human? SM which blacklists idols that do leave them and do everything to sabotage them in order to make the artists feel bad and undervalued in order to make them stay?
SM is ruined now bcz of their poor management and not caring about artist I really hope artist should leave sm and join company that can treat them better sm is runing artist career
His career is done. If Sm could've disproven any of the allegations against him or watered down his scandals more they would've cuz he was a future cash cow. The fact they didn't tells me that quite a bit of them are true, and with how conservative Korean culture is no other brand or show is going to work with him
It’s an observation so please don’t get offended. I get everything you’re saying however please be mindful. The video at 0:58-59 showed a black man’s hand holding and discussing matters of a contract while saying the word slave at the same time is discriminatory. This small part automatically threw me off balance since I’ve worked in law/discrimination etc. SMs unfair treatment and greed will be their downfall. I hope you understand. Thank you.
I'm pretty sure it's just them looking for better opportunities they believe they deserve. SM can no longer offer these idols much besides a better contract and if they can't offer one that's good enough for them then the idol is going to leave. Exo's (and the member's names) are so marketable it would silly for them to agree to a contract that doesn't benefit them.
This has been going on forever! Like seriously so many idols were just dumped somewhere by SM and you wouldn’t even know what the heck happened. It just really hurts fans and they just brush it off.
Let’s not forget that SM has the worst profit distribution in the whole industry. One would think that they have more than enough budget to promote their artists properly. Sadly their tactic is to make them famous enough to make money, but not too much that the artists will have more power over them. I’m just basing this on their 3rd gen groups cause that’s when kpop went huge globally, but if they did their job correctly, EXO and Red Velvet would be at the same playing field as bts blackpink and twice. By that I mean performing at these huge stadiums all over the world, promoting officially in the western market, pushing thru with the collabs, performing at non kpop festivals. I don’t know about rv but EXO wasn’t even given a world tour! They mostly perform in Asia yet they’re still up there in the ranks. Could you just imagine if they both got that western debut.
NCT DREAM’s last album shows it all. How can a company us an opened cd box as an album image? How can they tease a video for Poison and never release it? You spent the money for production and marketing so why not use it? If you are going to hang on to these kids for years wouldn’t you want the revenue to keep them making you money for your company? I really don’t understand. It’s so sad for these kids who have given them their lives and talents only to be gaslighted.
Lol no, it's because HYBE is one of the richest labels in all of K-pop. As of April this year, they achieved 8.5 trillion South Korean won in stocks. JYP has improved to be honest, they weren't the strongest in the beginning (miss A, Got 7 etc.)
When BangPD of BigHit and HYBE wanted a share of SM because he wanted to promote in the west all Kpop artists after BTS basically open the door for Kpop artist. BangPD believe in the talented artists of SM but their stopped BangPD from doing so all because they thought he only wants money. BigHit is now the biggest music company in South Korea and the 4th biggest in the west alongside Universalcand Sony Music etc. But the SM management or top honchos only wanted money and look what's happening to them now. BangPD really wanted to promote KPop artists in the West not just HYBE. BTS is considered the world's biggest band whether you like it or not. They have positioned themselves at the top and BangPD that other Kpop artists to join BTS and make it big too. But SM honchos did everything to stop him. So BangPD is just promoting the BigHit and HYBE artists in the West. So TXT le sserafim Seventeen ENHYPEN is now making noise at gets all the attention. And ofcourse BTS members are doing their solo projects before enlisting in the ARMY. JKook is really making waves in the west now and even Suga after his successful world tour has his own TV talk show. BangPD gave his artists freedom to grow as artists and support. His artists go to him for guidance unlike SM management didn't really support their artists that's they are leaving.
Kyuhyun Donghae Eunhyuk Sunny Onew Taemin Kyungsoo Baekhyun Chen Xiumin All these artists left sm in last year or so . Also one should nkte that taemin and baekhyun were major money makers for sm considering how successful and well established they are as soloists .
Vids on vids and media exposing the industry is not surprising but I'm rather shocked. I'm gonna be honest training and debuting young people is 1 of the easiest ways any company can manipulate their idols just think about it, I would leave too
How come these groups didn’t hire the best lawyers to negotiate for them or look at the contracts? Is there cronyism and can’t trust anyone in the business? Really tragic.
KPOP works on a debt system, so you either owe tons of money to the company when you first start out, or they pay for all your training to the point that you feel obligated to take whatever deal the company gives you. Most of the groups when they first start out range from 15-early 20s, so the labels also prey on them being too young to realize they need lawyers
@@LP-ct9nk What about their guardians and parents? Do they have any say? These are minors…there should be better protections and regulations for them.😥
Also, SM is petty af. The idols who ever crossed with them all being blocked from their career especially in Korea Mainstream. Let alone that, don't even dream that they will give the copyrights to the artist if ever they left due to dispute.
Me personally can’t really decided which BIG company is better than other. I see this one and then they have the record on mistreatment. I look at another one, still the same issues. I just hope my fave artist can decided what the best for them and always be together.
It’s only a matter of time before the other companies have lawsuits that can’t get solved by settling out of court. They all have sueable issues. Sm just has more fed up people willing to do something about it
I am surprised that there isn't a company started by Kpop artists and made FOR Kpop artists yet. SM entertainment and YP entertainment are both wellknown for their great groups but more than terrible handeling of their groups
lol there are some, the most famous is TOP Media, still sucks handling their groups. unless the company is for themselves (not debuting new groups) like Shincom, Around Ent.
Tbh at this point I'm in favor of the artists under SM leaving because literally the CEO does nothing to defend their members during false rumors spread about the idol, he blackmails them in order for the artists to remain under the company longer only for his own benefit, and come on dude it's true some groups aren't promoted properly so SM deserves all this bull crap upon him and the company.
Artists always want to leave it’s just sm contract always reason they can’t and other reason sm still connection with big media house they make hard to work with tv shows and get other opportunities for artists who left
SM totally destroyed Aespa. Aespa was doing so well but literally sabotaged by their own company. At one point, EXO was equally popular as BTS. SM sabotaged them too. Now they are doing the same to the insanely talented NCT 127. So sad to see all these groups that has amazing potential to breakthroughs to Western market, just wasted. These stupid SM stans sabotaged themselves by gatekeeping HYBe from buying over SM. You killed your own artists future by doing that. Your hatred of Hybe clouded your judgement from saving them from SM.
There is a lot wrong with how SM and other companies treat idols, but that's for profit. The theory that SM reduces groups' activity to pressure them makes no sense whatsoever, because they would lose money in the process. Notice also how in another video YG idols say they envy SM idols because they get a lot more comebacks etc. I think the reasons are much simpler: They emphasize quality instead of quantity, they don't want to oversaturate the market, and they don't have more capacity.
Why don’t u just go ahead and say you Stan SM. It’s for profit? At least other major labels like HYBE, YG, JYP pay their artists more for the work they do. YG artists might say they envy SM artists but it’s because of what you just said it’s because they have more ‘comebacks’ which most groups under YG don’t have. Even so after everything that’s been unveiled about SM I doubt any other artists or groups from any of the other BIG 3 groups (apart from groups under SM) would actually want to be under SM. U saying that it’s because they value ‘quality over quantity’ is the same excuse as what YG does with their groups (eg Balckpink) they say the EXACTLY same thing. Except that everyone knows it’s the company’s strategy to only release 1 album a year because it keeps the fans wanting for more and buy it as soon as it’s released. The idols are pressured to stay under SM. Like you can even look up articles about how when Taeyeon (female soloist) was nearing the end of her contract with SM, there were no staff whatsoever escorting or protecting her. It’s highly suspicious and at this point it’s like SM aren’t even bothering to hide it. Like some EXO members themselves said it’s because in their contracts there is a condition where if they don’t meet certain sales or criteria then their contract AUTOMATICALLY renews and they HAVE to stay under SM. Here is a clip of some members of EXO themselves hinting to their unfair contracts: m.th-cam.com/users/shortsamoPfnrrZsk
Because YG does not have many song writers and producers. BP's songs are mostly from Teddy. And YG cannot handle many groups at one time. So, they must do it one by one. Stupid management. They should add more employees. They have money.
SM? Reputable company? They have a reputation alright. Why aren’t all of them leaving EARLIER is more of a question. SM is the father of slave contract, and LSM is the godfather of kpop.
My top 3 reasons as to why an artist won't leave could be that they still may have debt to pay down. So being employed with a company they owe money to that pays most if not all of their expenses is just easier to stay with than quitting and finding another company that pays less and or none of the artist expenses. Not to mention the previous company would still be owed the artists debt. 2 - They like the fame, credit, and benefit that comes with being under a big company even if said company they are with are sh*tty, and 3 - Not all artists are unhappy with their companies. They could very well have decent contracts that us fans are unaware of, even if it may look bad from the outside.
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EXO doesn't need SM, SM needs EXO
They needed each other as in any working relationship but at this point is like SM does not have much to offer in general.
Correction. Exo no longer needs SM.
SM doesn't need EXO. They already got 180% extra profit this year without any EXO participation 😂
@@devitadartias yeah that's why after Kyungsoo announcement about a new company and SM stocks went down hell🥰🥰🥰
@@devitadartiasand that's why when cbx sued them their stock went downhill😊
Only reason I can think of for groups that stay with them: they don't want to leave their staff team behind. They've worked with them for YEARS and developed good bonds, routines, connections with their stylists, hair/makeup team, manager, body guards, etc. It's not as easy as just leaving all that behind, and I doubt another company that wants to sign a group or single individual wants to go through the trouble of hiring an entire staff team. So they can feel stuck there. It's sad.
Actually it’s because being in a big company makes everything easier their staff treat them like kids to the point that Sooyoung learned to buy ticket planes by herself after leaving the company due to her new staff wouldn’t do it for her
Working with a big agency, you also use their connections. If theyve been good to you so far, I dont see why leave unless they are abusing you. Better the devil you know than the one you dont.
@@susiex6669저랑 같은생각이시네요!
Also music production.if they leave whos gonna acc make them gd albums
Artists fear to leave SM since they have seen what happened to the former three members of tvxq (jaejoong and the other 2) who sued SM.Despite winning the lawsuit,they have been blacklisted in the industry due to SM influence for 14 years now (since 2009).They couldn't promote on musics and variety shows, their songs are not played in radio or else.Nothing.They have been releasing great musics for more than 14 years but you will never find a single performance of them on musics shows,variety shows or end of the year awards. And for those arguing it's not the case , A LAW litterally was voted by the NATIONAL ASSEMBLY to prevent the blacklist and it's known as the ''JYJ law'' (google it,it's out there).
They dug their own grave.
As an exol, I want nothing but the worst of the worst for that shitty company.
I'm with you, Exo was reaching a new hype just when they had the rug pulled out from under them and EXO was their biggest group at the time.
@@angel_t3338 I guess you're talking about the years 2017-2019, right?
@@neomuneochicken4585 Is it any different now?? NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!!
Neither the company's mistreatment towards them nor the fact that EXO is their biggest group of all time.
Amen
SM revenue is increased 180% than last year, bigger than other company growth. So what's now Exol? Wake up from your dream, EXO is in their own downfall.
One thing I've noticed is that these companies don't want their artists to be _too_ successful. It's the ones who have success who start getting ideas that they may be better off without their companies taking all their money and restricting their freedom.
Regardless of my feelings on the JYJ case, it was not right of SM to basically blackmail other media companies by threatening to pull their artists from tv lineups and such if they ever promoted the members of JYJ. I don't think they could pull the same thing today because their influence is much less than it used to be and right now they're going through an internal power struggle.
Even if the artists do get too successful, treat them right and they'll still consider contract renewal. Look at BTS. All of them are soloists as well but also work loyal to their company.
@@ayakopudding5483hybe is good but SM entertainment is very bad company .
You just don't have to put any drama toward company. SM still big and have big power in the industry. If your don't have bigger escape plan don't even dare to put on lawsuit. Lol.
@@devitadartias Indeed they do, but it doesn't compare to back then. Still, it is unwise to file a lawsuit unless you have airtight proof the company is in the wrong and are prepared for the strong possibility that your career will be over after doing so.
Right, so companies don't want to make money so they purposely hold them back so they can lose money rather then profit.... Good thinking.
This is what happens when you get money hungry. It will never end well and you will be exposed for treating people like shit. If companies like SM prioritized artistry, promotion, and keeping their idols healthy in fair contracts, they could be thriving right now with idols happily renewing their contracts and making them more money. But instead they go the greedy route and end up with all their idols trying to run away for their own well being 🤦 truly pathetic.
Like every industry, it's all about making big money.
Sm is not failing
A few years ago, SM was the most powerful entertainment company in Korea. It was home to powerful groups that led the entire second generation, such as Girls' Generation, SHINee, Super Junior, and FX. Even with the third generation, groups like EXO, Red Velvet, and NCT continued to achieve huge profits, but The fourth generation is completely different and it's all over. Especially with the development of Hype, groups such as leserafim new jeans enhypen txt are taking the lead and little by little SM is disappearing from the limelight... actually ...it is not just SM, but even YG and JYP, the same thing happens to them... at The third generation (2014 -2019) K-Pop has known fierce competition from the four major companies, but now the competition has become less
u forgot TVXQ there were huge in this game with there Fandom Cassiopeia
@@dieMaron Yes, I'm sorry..... TVXQ, S.E.S, and Boa were always the most popular in the first generation with no other competitor♡
I don't think SM is disappearing just because new fans are interested in Hybe artists. Kpop has always been a competitive market, but from what I've seen so far, SM is not weak for it to last all those years at the top. Even now they're the top company in big 3. Regardless of Hybe, since it's newly established, but SM is deep rooted. Artists stayed because of LSM, but now since the company's goal has changed, and now they're blatantly sabotaging them, who would want to stay?
“Even EXO” lol wdym when EXO is their biggest group lol
@@hara2009 No, that's a misunderstanding, I meant that even 3rd generation groups like EXO and others were very successful.....and SM's stumble happened with 4th generation...sorry, my English is not that perfect because it's not my first language.
It's a shame how SM went down to this. They were a powerful company in the 2.000's and early 2.010's, and most (if not all) of their artists were titans in the industry.
Now, I barely hear about SM artist anymore.
Aespa's management is HORRIBLE, Taeyeon's management is poor and she has to do most of the work herself, EXO members are having hard issues with SM lately, Red Velvet is basically forgotten and locked in SM's basement...
Is a shame tbh.
I used to stan SM as a whole, but now I can't just for the lack of comebacks and promotions, and I only stan artists I truly like (Taeyeon, aespa and Red Velvet mainly).
Nowadays I stan JYP artist much more (Stray Kids and Twice mainly) since they have lots of comebacks and things going on.
Hold up, you're telling me SM could've had a song with H.E.R? Just imagine Beakhyun having an R&B song with her
It wouldn’t have done anything. Her is very niche so she wouldn’t have brought as many eyeballs on the collab, and her fanbase is not trying to hear anything kpop related and feel such collabs are forced
GOOD START! Keep refusing or terminate these big agency contracts until they learn to treat their idols better. Independent is the way to go. Own your own music rights, KNOW your financial status and actually GET paid, control your schedule and image, pick your own sound. Like to me the only reason why an idol is even apart of the company isn’t to make music but is to be an “idol”. Get famous and maybe sing some songs. But with the restrictions in placed in these big agencies contracts there no way majority are actual artists but instead puppets used to make money.
Like Got7 became an Independent group after leaving JYP? Are there any other examples of independent idols?
Exactly this!
You’re absolutely right.
The issue with it is that by taking the path to be an independent musician, for these big name artists, the industry they belong/belonged to prior, will not let it happen.
It’s more than just signing a contract, anything you say or do that goes against what these major companies like or tolerate, can blacklist you.
Not only that but blackmailing, manipulation and other can play into this.
I honestly feel sorry for the idols that are trying to leave, they must have been through horrible things to want that.
@@kendelaigarner2174Highlight, B.I, CL and Sunmi are other people I can name.
@@honiismeanI will say yes this is something THAT can happen however it’s clear KPOP as an industry has shown it’s not the company that holds power but a fan base.
@@honiismeanand I only say this should be the route is because the American music market is showing that companies actually DO NOT hold as much power as they like to think. Yes they might be blacklisted from a show but will be greenlit for another. Depends on HOW you want to achieve that fame. Do you want to put in the work or take the mega label route?
Most recent example, WayV didn’t have live subs today during their Comeback live. Taemin did yesterday
People need to realize something. If an artist leaves it could be for various reasons, some don't want to be idols for the rest of their lives, some don't like the managment, some want to open their own company. It's just like any regular corporation worker. Newer generations are very unlikely to stay with a company for more than 5 years. Their are so many opportunties nowadays. Most of these artists have no hard feelings toward SME, both parties got what they wanted. Also SME had the lowest turnover rate out of any company so they must be doing something right.
Wow someone with common sense. this is the first comment Ive read so far with actual logic, everyone else thinks they know everything that happens behind closed doors and talk about how a company should be ran, but nobody that says that runs a billion dollar company.. The Irony
I honestly believe as a fan of neither that if SM had promoted EXO properly they would have stood at BTS's place as a worldwide group. That is completely on SM.
They would have stood where😅😅 dont joke like this
As an exol - please stop 😂 don’t even put these two groups next to each other. EXO would never be popular in the west coz their music is far from just one direction.
@@swduc2836It is your taste. People have different tastes. The fact is BTS values are bigger than SM, not just EXO.
Sure keep telling yourself that, BTS didn't play the generic kpop game from the start and thats why they are at the top, they are self made artists not some company produced idols who get everything on a platter, in terms of sheer artistry and music BTS will always be relevant and on top.
I actually agree with you, as an older Kpop fan they were MAD popular a while ago, and I thought they were maybe heading that direction? But SM did them dirty.
For EXO it’s slave contract,heavy under promotion and mistreatment all in one. I’m so happy they’re leaving one by one from that shitty company. I’ll support any EXO member leaving SM.
The Chinese members have already all left and they are the most successful in China making millions of dollars
Exo lay for example.
No offense but other fandoms (newer) don't understand what EXO has gone through for a decade. Shitty treatment for members and fans for a decade, can you imagine? We even lost 3 members by lawsuit. I really really wish your faves wouldn't experience this, I really do. So please stop hating them, just understand and support them. D.O. is my ult bias, and I think this is not a sudden decision, and he's not going to leave EXO. Members still call him "Uri Kyungsoo" to this day. LSM teacher is no longer in charge of SM, and D.O.'s mentor Yoo Young Jin left SM this year too. So there's nothing to do with SM except EXO promotions. PLEASE SUPPORT ALL THE MEMBERS, WE ARE ONE, SARANGHAJA🥰
Of course we do. We love EXO.
6 of EXO members put lawsuits to SM. Have they win? They should learn to Suju how to negotiate the contract better. 😂😂
@@devitadartias congrats
@@devitadartiassuju doesnt successfully negotiates too,they are lucky bcs siwon's father is chaebol they had profits in sm bcs suju fans bought the shares.Seem like you are news of suju case..
Sm loves exploiting there talents and neglecting there stars fair paycut in every activities gigs etc
Any fan from a SM group or soloist knows all the frustations and stress we have to go because SM's mismanagement and incompetence. BUT exols...oh boy I swear we are trauma bonded with EXO after going through the most hardships ever, it's so unfair istg.
Also, the last NCT 127 album had a lot of problems, the smini of Doyoung was wrong printed again. The Albums was in sold Out before the album was came out, a lot of preorders were cancelled and SM didn't distribut the in the stores till the 5th day after the album came out.
I can't help but think about Onew from Shinee. The fact that he is not there for the latest promotions for the group has me wondering. I feel that they ran him into the ground with his promotions for his last solo album. And also key made a very interesting comment not long ago when asked about renewing their contracts with SM, saying that if they left they would all leave together . So I guess we shall see.
They already renewed and Onew was ill. Shinee isn’t going anywhere
yaah. that's right. onew is taking a rest due to health issues. and i'm glad that they are giving him a proper vacation. because i recently discovered that NCT TAEIL was called for comeback promotions even if he was badly injured from the motorbike accident. @@catladycb814
I'll tell you whats happening. Kpop artists are finding out they're getting better deals and more freedom going solo and/or signing with western labels. Sony is about to corner the market!
goddamn that thumbnail! EXO visuals really are unbeatable.
I'm surprised SHINee renewed their contracts with SM this year. Sometimes I wonder if the true reason Onew has been on indefinite hiatus is because of contract reasons. I know he has health conditions but he isn't having any activities in 2024 either and the company hasn't updated about him. Maybe SHINee doesn't wanna break fans' hearts with any news of Onew leaving.
he isnt having musicals?
The biggest strength of SM is Lee Soo Man but their biggest weakness is also Lee Soo Man. We all can hate him for his money greed but ngl he is a really good producer. He is a genius in making and choosing the music for his idols, so that's probably one of the reasons why a lot of SM idols decided to stay despite how badly they were being treated by the company. They respect him a lot for this. That's why the rumour about SM artists leaving has been around since that whole power fight going on in the company. People already saw this coming when Lee Soo Man left the company. That's why I'm not surprised when there is news about SM artists leaving the company.
As you said, Lee Soo Man is indeed a very key figure in the development of SM Entertainment. His music selection and production style have become an important reason for the success of many artists who belong to SM Entertainment, which is one of the reasons why many artists choose to stay in SM Entertainment even if they are treated unfairly within the company. The artists' respect for Lee Soo Man's talent and professional ability in music is an important factor in their long-term cooperation with the company.
However, with Lee Soo Man's departure, SM Entertainment has undergone some changes in the future music direction and management style, which no longer meet the expectations or career plans of some artists. Therefore, they finally decided to leave the company, and SM Entertainment also faced unprecedented challenges. Especially in the context of the power fight within the company, the issue of whether artists stay or go has aroused more attention.
Although the current people who control SM Entertainment seem to be not doing a good job in maintaining the company culture, but I will still continue to pay attention to the future development trend of SM Entertainment. However, in a company like SM that relies on its soul figure, I really want to know how the company can maintain its core competitiveness and cultural heritage when this figure leaves? Especially in the entertainment industry, artists’ choice of whether to renew a contract is not only based on economic benefits, but also on trust in the company’s culture, future development direction, and the quality of music production. This is a question worth pondering.
For EXO, its mistreatment. Everyone got 2024 Season Greetings except EXO. Thats just one example. Now when their shares went down, they released a dumb excuse and said that it was because their greetings would be filmed in November due to solo schdeules. As if.
I had no idea.
Last year they said Chamyeol wasn’t part of the Seasons Greeting because they were shot in spring or something. So I thought, maybe theres a chance Kai might be in next year‘s. Fuck SM. I think they did the same with Shinee as well
@@lovefan81 they are dumb honestly, fans are smart and will fight for their artist's.
@@Copper1010The Grace too
I entered kpop fandom thru JYJ and DBSK/TVXQ before they split. I'm glad it isn't forgotten, because JYJ went through such bs for decades, being kept off all the popular music shows. Jaejoong and Junsu have their own companies now, and i hope are the gateways toa new era of fair treatment of artists.
LSM left, SME r chinese company now. but why JJ &Junsu still blacklisted?? its not like Yunho/ Changmin has comeback anw??
EXOLs had to buy ads for a comeback MV coz SM won't, the music videos are so minimalist, collab offers declined, big opportunities wasted. I don't know about your faves but if they had to sign an exclusive contract that means they might've been threatened coz that's what they did to Baekhyun. EXOLs put so much money in that company they could've treated the artists better, not as a. cash cow because soon it's gonna bite them in the ass.
SM did the same thing to NCT with their newest album "Fact Check". They didn't print enough copies and falsified the numbers to be very low. Also the misprints of the album - SM doesn't give a f
I also personally think it has a lot to do with Lee Soomin himself like love him or hate him. He was a real backbone for this company and people forget just how invested he was with these artist as people too. They have been numerous articles in interviews over the years for members of these groups have talked about how when they’ve had a hard time are they felt some type away just like with Jay YP they would go to him and talk to him about certain things and he’d help them through it or he try to do what he can to help them with whatever idea or Vision that he might have like this man to a certain degree definitely cared about the artistry in the artist, but like he was also a businessman at the end of the day.
. So late getting rid of him was probably one of the stupidest things that the people at that company ever thought of doing. I genuinely believe there’s probably a handful idols who’s not going to leave because of the staff and the relationships that they’ve created with some of the people who work there, but there’s also quite a lot of them who have talked about. It have stated for years that he only reason why they stayed in. The company was because of Lee Soomin was because of the way that he did things and interacted with him, even after his step down as CEO, and he was just there is a producer and a creative mind and now that he’s gone I feel like we’re probably going to see quite a few of the OG idols, and probably even a couple of the newer ones leaving SM entertainment because there’s no reason for them to stay anymore.
I remember seeing couple of people talking about this, but also Val why other companies don’t have idols leaving for this reason and I think we’re people tend to forget that music JYPE or HYBE while the original founders and creators of those companies have some down as CEO they’re still working and a part of those companies they did not get kicked out of the company by the people working for them. They just no longer have that CEO role they’re still the biggest shareholders in their company they still are considered producers in their company. They still are considered creative mines in their company so even though their companies might have changed in terms of who the CEO is and how it might be ran to a certain degree they still have those integrated people who, for a lot of those idols is a big factor on why they would want to stay with that company in the first place.
I’m sure leaving SM on bad terms (which is probably any time they leave) has more ramifications on the artists like being blacklisted from things, or losing ability to work with certain producers, songwriters, directors, etc. Unless they have huge connections and money/investments to start over from scratch, it might be simply too much for them to do it on their own without SMs backing. (Though, Key, I’m rooting for you to create your own empire one day! One day! 😂)
omg i'd be such a stan of a Key company!
Your kinda right
Key said if his Good and Great single were successful, he can do anything he want in the future.
Yeah ... Remember what happened to Jessica back in 2014 ... She got blacklisted, suffered a lot and had to recreate her self in China .. I'm all for Exo leaving SM but history repeating itself is what scares me the most .... 💔💔💔
I don't know if you know... but 16 of 26 members of NCT have pas 7 years since their debut... but SM just says that their contracts won't end this year or the next one, their contract is for around 9-10 years contract...
SM had the best artists among the big agencies yet they manage to mistreat them all. amazing.
Justice for f(x)😢😢
The Grace too
Kyungsoo's case is different frome the other Exo members tho. It was clearly mentioned that he was the ONLY one who did not renew his contract. Which means all of his activities will be handled by his new established company. While the remaining members are required to Establish their own company if they wish to have somehow freedom to do what they want as a Soloists. But this condition is under the new Exclusive Contract that they signed. Which means they have no choice but to make their own company. The only member who has the freedom to do what he wants as a Soloists is kyungsoo Aka D.O...Everyone else is still under The NEW EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT.
D.O case is the same like Kyuhyun and Super Junior Donghae & Eunhyuk. Khyuhyun even join other agency Antenna to handle his solo activity, D&E established their own management. Even during their Fancon World Tour, D&E able to manage the transistion smoothly, between under SM Management then half of the tour manage by their own company. And so far they are doing good with SM even they still able to joking about non-SM member aka Half-blood. Luckily, Super Junior know the priority is their group, so they dont have any schedule problem. Still manage to join SM Town, Kcon and many group activity under SM.
Let's hope all SM senior idol will follow this path, the blueprint already there. No need to backlash SM too much negativity if you are not ready to set up the path for your departure. Do it like this 4 legends, Kyuhyun, D&E dan D.O.
@@UlfaOmegI'm sorry, but I'm not really familiar with the people you have mentioned but if they were able to join different company after their contract ends (As you stated) then that means Kyungsoo probably has the same case as them (Kyuhyun and others). The thing is excluding kyungsoo the other exo members are not allowed to join the other establishments. Kyungsoo, on the other hand have the freedom whether to join other well established company or choose to just make his own Entertainment. But in this case, he chose the latter. The 7 remaining exo members are required to Established their company if they want to pursue their individual career more but still they're still under SM. This condition as I mentioned is under the New Exclusive Contract that they signed. But I think they really made a wrong decision about this one 😅 I mean if we are to think about it SM still have a say with their future activity as a Soloists and probably Sm can still earn their profit from the company that they will established in the future while kyungsoo can get all for himself and Sm is now out of his individual business (Except as an Exo member). I'm pointing this out b'coz I think a lot of people sort of misunderstood his current departure situation.
If they really want to understand his case there's a recent released article. It was well explained and the choice of words are easy to understand.
n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/469/0000767757
Well Kyuhyun is Super Junior member, he is well knows as one of well known solist in Korea/Kpop industry. As well with Super Junior D&E. If you are not familiar with them, I guess you are really new into Kpop and not watching much EXO content because Super Junior known babying EXO back then. They are in the same center with Exo too.
If you still don't recognize them, I suggest you to read articles about the departured of Kyuhyun, Donghae and Eunhyuk for their solo activity, and how they manage the issue very smooth. I guess both them and SM come with a good term about this case. And hopefully EXO can learn something from their Sunbae.
Ahh Donghae & Eunhyuk established their own company too. So I think SM is already open with every possible opportunity, probably it's just the matter about how the idols dealing with the conract.
@@UlfaOmeg Well it's really great that they chose to built their own company (Donghae & Eunhyuk). But as I mentioned, Sm might be open for any opportunity for the remaining Exo's members but that is still under their new exclusive contract. It's not like they have the entire freedom. SM's Condition for the new exclusive contract is to establish your own company and be somehow free to pursue your career as a soloist, if not you can't do whatever you want as an individual artist as well. Kyungsoo is the only one who has the freedom to do whatever he desire in the future without SM butting in his business. I'm proud of kyungsoo tho, he really stick to his decision despite all the pressure. SM did him dirty with his talents he can be much more bigger than he is already. So this news is really a good take for him. He really made a right decision of not renewing or else he will be stock more in that dungeon.
Btw, I've heard of Kyuhyun and I know the he is one of the best vocalists in K-pop as well. I also like his voice I am just not really familiar with the remaining ones as I am very much focusing more on my fav 😅 I hope you don't take this in a negative way.
@Ms_Ella I still don't get it when you mention he can do whatever he wants as a soloist. If he still wants to work as an EXO, of course D.O., and the rest of EXO members have to agree with SM conditions. How they will make the group running if they don't set the rule about group project. It will just make the group more scramble. I don't think SM will let EXO leave either.
I heard this a lot, that SM never disband any of their group. It's a tough battle here, but hopefully, EXO can find their way to satisfy their needs and the fandom.
Junsu and Jaejoong are the ultimate idols. But they have to go through the blacklist from entire industry after leaving SM. That's the big reason they aren't popular among new fans
In future it won't happen because JYJ law is there to protect every artist from blacklisted by entertainment companies
So Tao and Luhan were never wrong? How the tables have turned huh 😏🥴
Literally everyone knows that the China line was right.
wrong. read comments, Satan Management have the scariest delulus. since 2010, they keep defending the Satan 😈
Ah that's remind Hangeng's case
Not surprised YG and SM they both something wrong in they company
SM contracts are fvcked up, especially with the military gap that they take advantage of. NCT is halfway there but I hope RIIZE members are free from this slave treatment.
Holy Spitballs. K-pop needs to Unionise. That is the only way to get true transparency & more equality in the industry.
The only one that I remember that’s LEFT LEFT was Sunny. But she’s LSM’s niece, so that seemed like a given. And the EXO members are techniquely still under them, except for solo stuff. They basically pulled a SJ, there but not there. I think you’re making this more sensational than it is.
Exactly legit barley anyone left at all .and suju is not a surprise theyve been in tht company for years and wanna do their own shit
They didn’t pull SJ, Exo don't have their own label or something. Tbh there is a possibility that gathering all the members together will be very hard, remember our Lay also said, he is not re signing but will be part of EXO, D.O. also didn’t resign, I think soon, we will hear all members left that group,gathering all the busy soloist, actors, ambassador from different companies and making them to comeback will be hard.
@@SadiaIslamShouki EXO don’t have their own label, but individual members DO. When I say left, I mean cut ties completely. As long as they’ll remain active as EXO under SM, they’re technically SM artists. The only they won’t be and still be EXO, is if they all just leave.
Lay is a different situation all together. He was never going to re-sign under SM. And the reasoning has nothing to do with SM and it’s management. He’s a successful soloist, actor, and personality in China who has his own successful company. The second he went to China and then didn’t promote with EXO again… the writing was on the wall. He may be a member in perpetuity, but his presence is more spiritual than physical. Barring an appearance in China, you probably won’t see him with EXO again promoting.
But you are right about it being difficult to see them promote as EXO with busy solo schedules. Some fans seem to think them leaving SM will get more group activities but it’s doubtful.
@@jessi5288 sadly I think EXO Won't have Comebacks anymore. Maybe when Kai and Sehun comeback, Suho can pull Lay somehow with lot of planning,setting everyone's schedule etc.And that would be kinda the last CB. And this is from a die hard Exo-l.Just practically I don’t find any way of getting freedom from SM.The only way to have 15 years/20 years anniversary special song/cb without drama is like this, " we will work under SM for group activities " but also it’s hard to set everyone's schedule, so it’s not possible to have comebacks every years.and slowly cut ties from SM.But if they manage to comeback often(like once a year) like that would be huge dedication and sacrifices from the members.
She's still part of SNSD according to her last statement tho
Minho and Key just renew their contracts with SM Entertainment. I hope both of them get treated right.
all of my favourite artists are from SM entertainment....and now Riize ...I don't want my boys to suffer because their company is bad
Even riize are suffering now because of sm 😭
@@exogen9428 yes, it's so sad
That clause that says if you don’t release enough albums, you have to extend your contract does not incentivize the company to actually promote the artist so that they can keep holding them for longer.
If they want to leave SM Entertainment, VERY GOOD, because they truly deserve much better. I recently learned that three Super Junior members are leaving, which are Kyuhyun, Donghae, and Eunhyuk. I'm glad they're still a part of Super Junior, but this shows that SM Entertainment is just terrible with their artists. I'm actually surprised only 3 Super Junior members left, and the remaining 6 resigned.
hangeng and kibum also left super junior
Quite a few of the super Junior members signed individual contracts with different agencies a while ago. These three were the last ones that had sm managing their individual schedules. As far as Ik all of them resigned the group contract
@@LP-ct9nk for real
What do you mean remaining 6 resigned
It’s like cube,SM, and YG are competing for the who can mistreat my artists more award
17-18 years is just BIZARRE
I also heard that out of the three main agencies that SM pays the lowest amount percentage to their artists which in my opinion is absurd I mean they make a lot of money but they only give I think it's like 5% to the artist and that's ridiculous And then on top of that how they treat their artists 🤷😕
It makes sense because more money is wasted in other things
What’s crazy is that law about the 7 year contract cause it’s been 7 years since half of nct debuted but sm stated that none of thier contracts were ending this year wich makes it so much more suspicious
I been saying this since the JYJ lawsuit. A lot of us knew SM would be their own demise.
I miss sm’s golden era i remember i got into kpop in 2011 when snsd suju f(x) and shinee were consistently promotin. When red velvet came out sm started to ghost f(x) not promoting them as they did it before, i’m not blaming anyone but Sm. That’s the first toxic/ghosting behavior i remember from sm. I remember f(x) hd to fight to get a tour but when they finally got it they disbanded.
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Look at Jessica’s case: after the departure sm started to give their idols the chance to end negotiations with the company but maintaining a place in the groups, that’s the way Sooyoung Seohyun Tiffany Donghae Kyu and Eunhyuk are not part of sm but are still allowed to promote with their groups. If this compatibility had been given to Jessica thing would have been so different.
She herself made a mistake, that's why it didn't work out with her the way it did for the other 3 SNSD members or other groups, she negotiated to leave her newly signed SM contract (that all members newly signed in 2014) to join coridel entertainment in 2015 when all of them where supposed to renew in 2017, because she thought maybe coridel entertainment (a nugu agency)would will continue to make her "big" but it only got worse, the Chinese promotional company sued Coridel entertainment, then she went into the dungeon like their other artists like 'playback their girl group where are they ' today? ,
Even Krystal whose group was mismanaged didn't dare try to leave before her contract ended, she waited patiently until 2019.
other members played safe and stuck around SM until their contract ended in 2017, even though they all had complains against the company, like seohyun saying they rejected a drama role for her in 2016, once it was time to leave they were able to negotiate properly with SM bcos they upheld their contracts, even Sunny mentioned she can still have future activities with the group, despite how her uncle LSM was kicked out
@@habshi0974agreed, it was just a wrong timing decision what messed everything. No one will knows if she left or was kicked out. If she left could have been bad timing obviously, she should have waited a bit more. I hope she was never backstabbed by the other members.
In krystal case no one knows if they have another projects that was worth the fight they stayed and were totally forgotten by sm.
@@Ban-nq2gy She had a shady bf at the time ofcourse the girls must have been cautious ,so many bad rumours flying around was already starting to taint their image and SM also wouldn't want that cuz it's business and could turn off sponsors and brand deals , and my point still stands she didn't sue SM so it must've been expected even though it was abrupt
whatever it was I'm glad the girls still kept the group name so that they can produce more in future
They are like rats leaving a sinking ship. SM will only have themselves to blame for their downfall
Kyungsoo / D.O. on the thumbnail but you barely talked about what mistreatments that company did to him.
JYJ really suffered a lot after that lawsuit. They really tried to make a difference but almost nobody supported them. Now other members are quitting for the same reason.
@@bisolaadebija1511 No. The band JYJ Jaejoong Yuchun Junsu
@@bisolaadebija1511 No problem. They were part of DBSK (Mirotic) from SM and they sued the company and split. 2 of the members remained in SM. They were the biggest before splitting.
Out of all mistreated groups under that company Exo still somehow the most mistreated one even though they brought the most money.🤷(not including f(x) because they are just gone)
Just saw
1.RedVelvet Yeri uploading hd pics of their teasers in her bubble, coz Sm uploaded low quality img🙄🙄
2. Wtf did they do to Nct 127 Fact check🤐🤐 it was a mess . No stock for albums, no pre order details, mv delayed at last min
3. Wayv's remix being delayed coz they were still editing after putting out date for release(kun seemed very angry)
4. RIIZE just debuted & after a month they had 1st cb with teasers being released 1 week before release
THAT COMPANY IS A FRKN MESS, BOTH UNCLE & NEPHEW ruined it. I think RV too will leave after their new cb
Plus Sm mistreatment Daeyoung from Nct New Team
I've been an SM stan since 2009 and I stan every single group in that company (From Super Junior to RIIZE). I've seen it all. The only thing SM is good at is selecting and training their artist. Their system is awful from the start. They are always pushing their artist to their limit. They don't care abt loyalty at all.
The first cracks that I saw was in 2014 when Luhan and Kris left Exo due to SM disregarding their health issues just to keep up with their schedule. It was solidify when Jessica was kicked out of the group. That's when I realized that the company is really awful.
Sure, being an SM Group will garantee a success since every single artist that they put out gets instant recognition, but the way they treat their artist is really really bad. The only reason why other artist stay in the company was because of either their sense of loyalty (since almost every trainee in SM was there since they were children) or they don't feel confident enough to break away since being in the bad side of SM is never good.
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If only companies knew that the secret to making incredible profits and having loyal employees/idols and customers/fans is to treat everyone with actual love and respect. Too many go for the quick buck and exploit both employees/idols and customers/fans. But if you want something that will last a long time and only grow respect and admiration, begin with the basic premise that you do right by everyone.
As a fan,It feels like a dream to see your favourite artists stay active in the group and company for eternal. I did like it when i saw that sm is the type of entertainment agency to maintain their longevity. Sm is diverse when it comes to music or stage. They didn't even let exo's talent be judged by featuring them with western artists. But the thing is true that sm don't get much in views or streams despite trying their best with every project. Actually,Sm is the best entertainment agency we r failing to protect. Sm deserves better.
It does but to be protected they should start treating their artists well
imo they don't invest in actual promotions and don't play their cards right like hybe does
SM doesn't deserve better they don't treat idols well. When did exo have a World Tour???!!
Are you SM's shareholder? You should sell your share 😂😂😂
@@anistardi I am just a fan of lee soo man, bang shi yuk, park jin young, yang hyun suk. I personally think that we all have something to learn from them.
AND HOW SM DID LUCAS! AND HOW SM SHUNNED YUTA!! BEING A RACIST COMPANY IN 2023 IS PLAYED OUT!
Fck we'll never forgot wht that fckn company did to lucas🙄🙄
I feel so bad for the SM artists :( they sign these contracts thinking it’ll be an amazing company to work with due to SNSD etc…but the beast behind the curtains is far worse than anyone can imagine. #TEAMHYBE #TEAMJYP
Jyp keeps giving itzy bad Korean songs, they didn't promote got7 well, overworks twice, force their trainees to go on strict diets (Momo was forced to eat only ice cubes for a week and the other members only ate rice)
But other idols are jealous of them Lol 😂
I personally think some of these has got to do with Lee Sooman leaving. A lot has changed since he left. SM has not been the same ever since.
Lee Soo Man removed, SM fell.
SM always treated artists poorly and had bad contracts but I feel if Lee Soo Man was there, he would agree to settle things with his artists more peacefully than the current CEO and try to make changes in the contracts if that meant retaining EXO, the breadwinner of the company.
Artists fear to leave SM since they have seen what happened to the former three members of tvxq (jaejoong,junsu,yc) who sued SM.Despite winning the lawsuit,they have been blacklisted in the industry due to SM influence for 14 years now (since 2009).They couldn't promote on musics and variety shows, their songs are not played in radio or else.Nothing.They have been releasing great musics for more than 14 years but you will never find a single performance of them on musics shows,variety shows or end of the year awards.
I just don't understand why SM would do that, what do they gain from not promoting their idols well enough like other companies? geniune question actually
Because that theory is nonsense. IMO they prioritize quality over quantity, they dont want to oversaturate the market and they dont have more capacity.
It’s because of money. Otherwise why would they decline when some of the EXO members wanted to see their financial statements? The members of EXO themselves even said they had unfair wages and slave contracts. Why else would the top (don’t remember whether it was LSM or his nephew) that did tax evasion? They are just greedy for even more money while not giving much to their actual artists. Even after it was revealed by some EXO members I’m surprised that the POLICE isn’t doing more to uncover any or look through all artists contracts that under SM.
@@aligensaLooks like a SM Stan. How’s it feel being a Stan for a company that treats their groups and idols as if they weren’t human? SM which blacklists idols that do leave them and do everything to sabotage them in order to make the artists feel bad and undervalued in order to make them stay?
@@patriciamezarina2496 Im not saying that its ok how SM or any other company treats their idols just that the explanation is wrong.
SM is ruined now bcz of their poor management and not caring about artist I really hope artist should leave sm and join company that can treat them better sm is runing artist career
I am still waiting for an update on Lucas. It’s like he vanished from earth. Sm treated him wrong.
Lucas is basically getting F(x) and Jessica treatment.
His career is done. If Sm could've disproven any of the allegations against him or watered down his scandals more they would've cuz he was a future cash cow. The fact they didn't tells me that quite a bit of them are true, and with how conservative Korean culture is no other brand or show is going to work with him
It’s an observation so please don’t get offended. I get everything you’re saying however please be mindful. The video at 0:58-59 showed a black man’s hand holding and discussing matters of a contract while saying the word slave at the same time is discriminatory. This small part automatically threw me off balance since I’ve worked in law/discrimination etc. SMs unfair treatment and greed will be their downfall. I hope you understand. Thank you.
I'm pretty sure it's just them looking for better opportunities they believe they deserve. SM can no longer offer these idols much besides a better contract and if they can't offer one that's good enough for them then the idol is going to leave. Exo's (and the member's names) are so marketable it would silly for them to agree to a contract that doesn't benefit them.
That’s why it was a shock when BTS was nominated from a smaller company when SM is like the big brother. There were problems with Exo-L too
This has been going on forever! Like seriously so many idols were just dumped somewhere by SM and you wouldn’t even know what the heck happened. It just really hurts fans and they just brush it off.
Let’s not forget that SM has the worst profit distribution in the whole industry. One would think that they have more than enough budget to promote their artists properly. Sadly their tactic is to make them famous enough to make money, but not too much that the artists will have more power over them.
I’m just basing this on their 3rd gen groups cause that’s when kpop went huge globally, but if they did their job correctly, EXO and Red Velvet would be at the same playing field as bts blackpink and twice. By that I mean performing at these huge stadiums all over the world, promoting officially in the western market, pushing thru with the collabs, performing at non kpop festivals. I don’t know about rv but EXO wasn’t even given a world tour! They mostly perform in Asia yet they’re still up there in the ranks. Could you just imagine if they both got that western debut.
NCT DREAM’s last album shows it all. How can a company us an opened cd box as an album image? How can they tease a video for Poison and never release it? You spent the money for production and marketing so why not use it? If you are going to hang on to these kids for years wouldn’t you want the revenue to keep them making you money for your company? I really don’t understand. It’s so sad for these kids who have given them their lives and talents only to be gaslighted.
I remember hangeng the former member of super junior he did a lawsuit against sm entertainment and he won
Sm doesn't care what happens to the idols، it's important that their idols are famous، so it doesn't matter،it just get more money for the company.
Sm’s biggest mistake was the nct system. They made so many mistakes and failed those guys.
Not long ago SM, JYP and YG were the agency to sign with.
Now its HYBE.
Lol no, it's because HYBE is one of the richest labels in all of K-pop. As of April this year, they achieved 8.5 trillion South Korean won in stocks.
JYP has improved to be honest, they weren't the strongest in the beginning (miss A, Got 7 etc.)
For me SM become NCT and other group now… I miss old SM, feels sad but life goes on
things change and NCT is amazing ...no group is going to stay forever ...appreciate the change these new groups are amazinb
luckily g.o.d still doing concerts lol
When BangPD of BigHit and HYBE wanted a share of SM because he wanted to promote in the west all Kpop artists after BTS basically open the door for Kpop artist. BangPD believe in the talented artists of SM but their stopped BangPD from doing so all because they thought he only wants money. BigHit is now the biggest music company in South Korea and the 4th biggest in the west alongside Universalcand Sony Music etc. But the SM management or top honchos only wanted money and look what's happening to them now. BangPD really wanted to promote KPop artists in the West not just HYBE. BTS is considered the world's biggest band whether you like it or not. They have positioned themselves at the top and BangPD that other Kpop artists to join BTS and make it big too. But SM honchos did everything to stop him. So BangPD is just promoting the BigHit and HYBE artists in the West. So TXT le sserafim Seventeen ENHYPEN is now making noise at gets all the attention. And ofcourse BTS members are doing their solo projects before enlisting in the ARMY. JKook is really making waves in the west now and even Suga after his successful world tour has his own TV talk show. BangPD gave his artists freedom to grow as artists and support. His artists go to him for guidance unlike SM management didn't really support their artists that's they are leaving.
Kyuhyun
Donghae
Eunhyuk
Sunny
Onew
Taemin
Kyungsoo
Baekhyun
Chen
Xiumin
All these artists left sm in last year or so .
Also one should nkte that taemin and baekhyun were major money makers for sm considering how successful and well established they are as soloists .
Everyone? Seems like more high profile people are leaving YG.
Vids on vids and media exposing the industry is not surprising but I'm rather shocked. I'm gonna be honest training and debuting young people is 1 of the easiest ways any company can manipulate their idols just think about it, I would leave too
How come these groups didn’t hire the best lawyers to negotiate for them or look at the contracts? Is there cronyism and can’t trust anyone in the business? Really tragic.
KPOP works on a debt system, so you either owe tons of money to the company when you first start out, or they pay for all your training to the point that you feel obligated to take whatever deal the company gives you. Most of the groups when they first start out range from 15-early 20s, so the labels also prey on them being too young to realize they need lawyers
@@LP-ct9nk What about their guardians and parents? Do they have any say? These are minors…there should be better protections and regulations for them.😥
Also, SM is petty af. The idols who ever crossed with them all being blocked from their career especially in Korea Mainstream. Let alone that, don't even dream that they will give the copyrights to the artist if ever they left due to dispute.
They successfully build a lot of group and also earned money from them , they became more greedy and like to tied up their artists to much . ..
Our kids deserve more than this SM!!!!!!!! if you still continue doing such things and not taking any action, YOU ARE DONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
These poor guys and gals are indentured.
Me personally can’t really decided which BIG company is better than other. I see this one and then they have the record on mistreatment. I look at another one, still the same issues. I just hope my fave artist can decided what the best for them and always be together.
all companies have mistreatments but LAWSUITS?? only ONE company lol
It’s only a matter of time before the other companies have lawsuits that can’t get solved by settling out of court. They all have sueable issues. Sm just has more fed up people willing to do something about it
still hoping and wishing for Suho to take over SM. I'm manifesting this.
Me too if only
All artist would be treated better
I am surprised that there isn't a company started by Kpop artists and made FOR Kpop artists yet.
SM entertainment and YP entertainment are both wellknown for their great groups but more than terrible handeling of their groups
lol there are some, the most famous is TOP Media, still sucks handling their groups. unless the company is for themselves (not debuting new groups) like Shincom, Around Ent.
Tbh at this point I'm in favor of the artists under SM leaving because literally the CEO does nothing to defend their members during false rumors spread about the idol, he blackmails them in order for the artists to remain under the company longer only for his own benefit, and come on dude it's true some groups aren't promoted properly so SM deserves all this bull crap upon him and the company.
Artists always want to leave it’s just sm contract always reason they can’t and other reason sm still connection with big media house they make hard to work with tv shows and get other opportunities for artists who left
SM totally destroyed Aespa. Aespa was doing so well but literally sabotaged by their own company. At one point, EXO was equally popular as BTS. SM sabotaged them too. Now they are doing the same to the insanely talented NCT 127. So sad to see all these groups that has amazing potential to breakthroughs to Western market, just wasted. These stupid SM stans sabotaged themselves by gatekeeping HYBe from buying over SM. You killed your own artists future by doing that. Your hatred of Hybe clouded your judgement from saving them from SM.
They never looked like they were allowed to have fun at award shows
Typical corporate behavior.
I was hoping Onew would leave SM as well, but no.. he prolonged his contract
They're really good at finding talented artists but awful at managing them properly.
Since Lee Sooman stepdown as a CEO, SM became BORING. His nephews doesn't know what they're doing lol
There is a lot wrong with how SM and other companies treat idols, but that's for profit. The theory that SM reduces groups' activity to pressure them makes no sense whatsoever, because they would lose money in the process. Notice also how in another video YG idols say they envy SM idols because they get a lot more comebacks etc. I think the reasons are much simpler: They emphasize quality instead of quantity, they don't want to oversaturate the market, and they don't have more capacity.
Why don’t u just go ahead and say you Stan SM. It’s for profit? At least other major labels like HYBE, YG, JYP pay their artists more for the work they do. YG artists might say they envy SM artists but it’s because of what you just said it’s because they have more ‘comebacks’ which most groups under YG don’t have. Even so after everything that’s been unveiled about SM I doubt any other artists or groups from any of the other BIG 3 groups (apart from groups under SM) would actually want to be under SM. U saying that it’s because they value ‘quality over quantity’ is the same excuse as what YG does with their groups (eg Balckpink) they say the EXACTLY same thing. Except that everyone knows it’s the company’s strategy to only release 1 album a year because it keeps the fans wanting for more and buy it as soon as it’s released. The idols are pressured to stay under SM. Like you can even look up articles about how when Taeyeon (female soloist) was nearing the end of her contract with SM, there were no staff whatsoever escorting or protecting her. It’s highly suspicious and at this point it’s like SM aren’t even bothering to hide it. Like some EXO members themselves said it’s because in their contracts there is a condition where if they don’t meet certain sales or criteria then their contract AUTOMATICALLY renews and they HAVE to stay under SM.
Here is a clip of some members of EXO themselves hinting to their unfair contracts:
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@@patriciamezarina2496 You havent understood my comment.
@@aligensa I think the response was perfectly in line to what you said though?
Because YG does not have many song writers and producers. BP's songs are mostly from Teddy. And YG cannot handle many groups at one time. So, they must do it one by one. Stupid management. They should add more employees. They have money.
@@ayakopudding5483 No it was not. Im not going to bother anymore though.
SM? Reputable company? They have a reputation alright. Why aren’t all of them leaving EARLIER is more of a question. SM is the father of slave contract, and LSM is the godfather of kpop.
My top 3 reasons as to why an artist won't leave could be that they still may have debt to pay down. So being employed with a company they owe money to that pays most if not all of their expenses is just easier to stay with than quitting and finding another company that pays less and or none of the artist expenses. Not to mention the previous company would still be owed the artists debt. 2 - They like the fame, credit, and benefit that comes with being under a big company even if said company they are with are sh*tty, and 3 - Not all artists are unhappy with their companies. They could very well have decent contracts that us fans are unaware of, even if it may look bad from the outside.
There are no trainee debts in sm
@felinemonstrosity that's false, though. Red velvet paid off their debt after Russian roulette.
@@sowhat1674 who told you that? None of the groups under sm have trainee debt so I don't think red velvet would be singled out for it.
What's debts? Do you have their receipts or are you an accountant in the company?
@felinemonstrosity go and watch red velvet interview. They said they received their first paycheck during Russian roulette.
Is SM got its Karma? Maybe its for another better Entertainment to be open respectfully?
SM is definitely getting karma.