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Beautiful argument. Love your videos as always. God bless you, bishop Robert Barron!
"We are in such a pickle," made me laugh. Amidst this deep, highly rational mini-lecture Father Barron is giving, he drops a light-hearted phrase like that. Just had to point that out.
Thank you Bishop Barron.
Another great video and commentary. Perfectly clear.
And all your talks. Thank God for you!!!!!!
Very good video bishop Barron. God is good
Well there's the dividing line between redemption and condemnation. May the protests continue.
"Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life." - John 5: 24
I really enjoyed how you mentioned that faith grants us access to God's "house". This imagery recalls, in my mind, the great teachings of St. Teresa of Avila. She spoke of the "Mansions" or the great crystal house or globe into which we must first enter to even begin to participate in God's life; however, we must not stay in that first room but move further and further into the center of that house or as you've put forth here, that God wants us to participate more fully in this life and to "live in that house." Such a beautiful image and thank you for your work, Father!
Thank you, Bishop Barron, for continuing to find time in your schedule to make videos which are theologically penetrating, pastorally sensitive, and culturally relevant. Having formerly been a committed, evangelical Protestant, I appreciated your drawing out the similarities and contrasting distinctives of the Church's teaching of the 'euangelion' and justification by grace through faith 'alone'. In retrospect, I recognize the "Protestant" kerygma is long on what we are saved from, but short on what we are saved to (i. e. the 'graced exchange' of I Corinthians 8: 9 - God became human, that humanity might be made sharers in the divine (cf. John 10: 34-36; II Peter 1: 3, 4; Colossians 2: 9, 10).
*_For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves:_** it is the **_gift_** of God:*
*not of works, lest any man should boast.*
*For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.*
Ephesians 2:8-10 KJV
Notice that the passage speaks of salvation in the past tense-”you have been saved.” In Greek this is the perfect tense, which denotes a past, completed action. We know from other passages in Paul that salvation also has present and future aspects, so the kind of salvation Paul is discussing in Ephesians 2:8-9 is initial salvation. It is the kind which we received when we first came to God and were justified, not the kind of salvation we are now receiving (cf. 1 Peter 1:8-9, Phil. 2:12) or the kind we will one day receive (cf. Rom. 13:11, 1 Cor. 3:15, 5:5).
St. Joan of Arc please intercede for me and put me in a state of grace if i am not in a state of grace. St. Joan of arc pray for us.
I’m a cradle catholic whose life of faith was radically renewed and transformed when I finally heard the other part of the gospel - the part you don’t mention here - that Jesus died as a sacrifice for us, that when we are washed in his blood and made one with his body we are no longer ourselves who live but Christ who (metaphysically, by his Spirit) lives in us. That I don’t have to keep doing what I did for the first 36 years of my life as a daily massgoing, weekly confessing catholic: I don’t have to keep trying to earn grace. I don’t have to wait until I’m sanctified enough to live in the presence of God, because through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit of the living God I live in his presence now. And I don’t have to wait to achieve a certain degree of ascetic “holiness” before I can rely on God to want good for me, Jesus gifted me HIS righteousness on the cross as a gift, by pure undeserved GRACE, so that I may never boast except in the cross of Christ who loved me and gave himself up for me. Hallelujah, thank you Jesus.
Was anything I just said heretical? I don’t think so - but until the Catholic Church that I love and call home starts preaching a gospel of grace (rather than the grace-is-earned message I grew up with) we will keep waiting for the Eucharistic revival we need to happen. Because before people can love the Eucharist as an “outward sign of an inward reality” we need to know what that reality is! And it’s undeserved grace, the Blood of Christ that cleanses us from all unrighteousness, Hallelujah!
The Church has always taught that we do not “earn salvation”. Growing up reformed Protestant, The Church was always misrepresented to me and lied about. Even by lapsed cradle Catholics who were swayed by reformed theology. “They don’t read the Bible!” “They teach salvation by works!” “They worship Mary!”. I was then taught about their god. A god who is disgusted by humanity, but “covers us up “ with his Son’s righteousness, lest he sees us as we are and pours out his wrath. That’s a schizophrenic, fearsome god that can be feared, but never loved. A cold, distant father whose expectations we could never live up to.
I became an Atheist. If that’s who god was, I wanted nothing to do with him. According to the no true Scotsman fallacy that reformed Christianity engages in, well that must mean I was really damned from the start, and never “saved” to begin with, right? It was only after a years long struggle I came to The Church. I experienced Jesus, Body, Blood, Soul and divinity in The Eucharist. I finally met His Blessed Mother. I was taught about the true God. Whose love and mercy is inexhaustible and endures forever, who sees clearly who I am. A God I could never see in the hateful theology of the reformation.
I’m sorry your parents and clergy failed you in your catechesis. You love Jesus, and He will be here when you come home.
@@BigJayBrownTown I appreciate your story too. Just to reiterate what was there but maybe not clear in my first post, I am still Catholic and have never left. I am “home.” Peace and all good!!
Wonderful! I took lots of notes!
me too!
A very nice Aquinas approach to the challenge! Repeat their argument and make it sound as good as you can, but your response is even better!
simply put, faith without action is dead.
I was drawn to this title looking for the answer to a question, but ended up with the answer to an even more pressing question. Now I know what to say to my born-again friend who is against me becoming a Catholic. Perfect, thank you Bishop! ❤️✝️
Did you become a Catholic?
Are you saved?
I was saved, I am being saved and I will be saved.
Meaning I was justified, I'm being sanctified and I will be glorified.
Bishop Barron's answer is perfect. It is exactly correct. If anyone wants to know why Jesus was Incarnated and what it means for our lives, Bishop Barron provided the answer - God became man that man might become God. Through faith in Christ, we receive the Holy Spirit who with our cooperation in responding to grace transforms us into new entities.
I love it. Thank you for this podcast. Charmaigne
thanks
"God became one of us, so that we may become one with Him."
Well said. :D Yours summarised the entire thing nicely. The "standard" Protestant one is also good but more specific I'd say on the means of that salvation than the nature of the salvation itself.
you cant have faith without the works .
Very good
In fairness, I a know a good number of charismatic evangelicals who would completely agree with that.
It seems to me that Catholicism correctly understands the distinction between justification and sanctification.
David Alexander
Which is which?
As the Bible says, I am already saved ( Eph. 2:8),
but I’m also being saved (Acts 2:47)
and I have the hope that I will be saved (Mat 24:13).
Like the apostle Paul, I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Php. 2:12),
and I remain with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (2 Tim. 2:11-13).Rom 8:24 - For in this hope we were saved.
Eph 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith;
Acts 15:11 On the contrary (peter says), we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they (the gentiles).”
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Acts 2:47 praising God and enjoying favor with all the people. And every day the Lord added to their number those who were being saved.
1Cor 1:18 The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.k
2Cor 2:15 - For we are the aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved
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1Co 3:15 - If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
Mat 24:13-But he who endures to the end, he will be saved.
Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
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Php 2:12 - work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
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Rom 5:2 - and we rejoice in our hope of sharing the glory of God.
2Ti 2:11 - The saying is sure: If we have died with him, we shall also live with him;
AMEN!!! Whenever a Protestant asks me are you saved, I say...I AM saved, I am BEING saved, and I HOPE to be saved. GOD bless.
Thanks for doing the leg work on this.
we could easly life with thin but not with erearnal death and jesus christ made us his brother god gave our life back
I was with hipothetic Heart attack now i'm better
nice one bishop
This is why the catholic faith is no different from any other faith system, all they can do is hope if they do what their told they might enter heaven or nirvana or whatever, the people in cults hope so too. By the grace of God through faith in Christ, we have the Holy Spirit, we have Christ inside of us. He is our confidence. How can Christ be condemned? It is not presumptuous, we have an Almighty God and He cannot lie. John 3:16.
AMEN
This is plastic theology. Exactly during of hope there will be salvation. Hope is salvation. It is a man made and erroneous construct to simply claim you are saved because you feel a certain way.
@@johannjohannes8265 I'm sorry you feel that way but the Word is confirmation from Jesus own lips: 1 John 5:13
@@amartinez589 Yes but what is salvation? This is all so flat. Where is the depth and beauty that comes with truthful theology? There is nothing to it.
Great video and I appreciate the perspective discussion. The Gospel to me is simply put by the Lord Himself: John 11:25-26. It's not filled with complications or even any need for profession of the faith. It's the individual and their faith in who Jesus said He was. The rest is window dressing that men have put on it.
so the pornstars that believe in Jesus are saved?
@@kenechukwuaniagboso4583 you can say they are not?
I always thought of the gospel as "the good news that we don't have to end at death our soul can live on for eternity we just has to follow in jesus's footsteps and use the saints as achievable goals"
First time ever I'm in disagreement with one of your messages. I feel you contradict yourself a little bit and I feel the bible and Jesus are both clear on how to achieve salvation but I am a protestant so what do I know. Lol! Still love your videos Bishop Barron! :)
Hi. Can you tell me what Ezekiel 1:5-14 means? The four figures (man, ox, eagle, lion) represent the 4 evangelists/gospels, which are signifying the 4 characteristics of Christ. Im doing an assignment on different representations of God and we had to pick an image from the stimulus given and find the accompanying scripture, which is Ezekiel 1:5-14. My image is of the tetramorph of the 4 evangelists standing side by side. I was wondering how this particular scripture depicts God in this sense.
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the regeneration of dead bodies is nonsical. his triumph was in his life and teachings, easier to believe in myths and superstition than to put the sermon on the mount into practice. check out tolstoy's 'the kingdom of God is within you'
without reseraction of christ christianatie was nothing
I think this is pretty good, but I'd like to see you interact with N. T. Wright's discussions of this topic. He has several videos on youtube called "What Is the Gospel" as well as a fine book on the subject, Simply Good News. He brings out the political implications of the Gospel, and also shows how the evangelical version is too individualistic, with its claim that the Gospel is primarily about MY act of faith rather than GOD'S act of salvation. And Wright brilliantly shows how the Gospel grows out of the soil of what Christians call the Old Testament; too much discussion of the subject, including this video, leaves open the possibility that the OT is not essential.
But Jesus and the Apostles were preaching "The Gospel" before the Crucifixion, so what were they preaching?
Whats the painting at 3:22?
That was good, but a bit long and complicated. Here is the short version, from St. Paul himself:
1Cor.15: 1-5:Now I would remind you, brethren, in what terms I preached to you the gospel, which you received, in which you stand, by which you are saved, if you hold it fast -- unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you AS OF FIRST IMPORTANCE WHAT I ALSO RECEIVED, that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.
As a resident bothersome Protestant, there was very little I would disagree with in this video... Except, of course, the attempt to socially position the Catholic view as richer and deeper. I can understand the natural impulse to want to say that one's own view is the deeper and richer one. After all, you're a Catholic because you think it is right just like I am a Protestant because I think that is right. I think we can both agree that having Evangelicals jump down our throats about when we were saved is annoying at any rate (my go-to reply is "2000 years ago on a cross on a hill just outside Jerusalem").
There is a lot I agree with the Catholic Church on, or at least find insightful (which is why I subscribe to your videos). I even agree that, being saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone on the cross alone, we are called and empowered to living ever more deeply in Christ. What I find bothersome about Catholic views of the Gospel, salvation, justification, etc. is that it always comes with a set of "ands" and "buts"... Human rules and organizational protocols and so forth that attempt to circumscribe God's grace. The famous one that cheesed Luther off so much was the act of extorting money from German peasants to build the Sistine Chapel, via the sale of indulgences which have nothing whatsoever to do with living more deeply in Christ and being empowered to serve Him more fully. I get that Catholics view their ecclesial community as the continuation of the Incarnation and therefore authorized to lay out these rules and rites and such, which to me is just awfully convenient.
+CoryTheRaven As a former Lutheran, I find it sad that Lutherans keep bringing up the misdeeds of Johann Tetzel as if it happened last week. Please make the proper distinction between evil men within the church who have come and gone from the Holy Roman Catholic Church itself. If you can't make a distinction then go learn about it.
sshealy1 I merely brought it up an example of the core issue, which is the presumption of the Roman Church to make arbitrary rules that have nothing to do with being deepened in our relationship with Christ and empowered to serve him more fully. The exploitation of Germany by Rome was only the proximate issue that started the German Reformation.
If I wanted to go more current, I would bring up something like the sex abuse scandal, which is deeply rooted in the Roman Catholic attitude that man is made to serve the Church. When actual real living people mean nothing and the institution means everything, then picking the pockets of Germans or didling kids and then lying to cover it up are just natural extensions.
Or if I really wanted to go archaic, I would go back to Jesus, who regularly fought against the religious authorities of His day for the benefit of real living human beings. Or Paul, who went to bat for the Gentiles against the Jerusalem See and the circumcision party. Fighting against institutional authority that seeks to exploit others in the name of God is one of Christianity's BEST traditions.
+CoryTheRaven What I find disturbing from many people outwith the Catholic Church is when they take a scandal and point the finger as though no such scandals have taken place outside the Church or within their own communities.
Of course I understand this - if the Church sees itself as a moral authority then any wrongdoing is magnified x 1000 times. I get that. The higher you climb, the harder you fall.
Perhaps this is the best thing that can happen to the Church - we need to feel the pain in order to be purified. The overwhelming majority of people in the Church are just ordinary guys going about their ordinary business but unfortunately we all get tarred with the same brush as the few. So maybe this is the paid we need to endure on behalf of the Lord and only by the recognition that evil has taken place, can we ensure it will never happen again.
On the other hand, many on the outside who point the finger in only one direction, still have a long way to go in their own lives and communities for they haven't even begun yet to accept that many of these scandals exist there too.
When you say *fighting against institutional authority that seeks to exploit others in the name of God is one of Christianity's BEST traditions* can you please explain what exactly the Church is exploiting me for?
Many Protestant Church's, using the Old Testament as their authority, condoned slavery in America over many many years.
Who should I point my finger at?
+Peter McCluskey I'm typically loathe to bring up the sex abuse scandal, but if someone is going to get in my face about a 500 year old scandal, then I can go for one more current. Both have their genesis in the same problem, and both had the same outcome, insofar as the Catholic Church sought to punish those who brought abuse to light rather than punish the abusers. The Catholic Church is overwhelmingly concerned with its power and its reputation, and every time it tries to enforce and protect those things, that's exactly what it ends up losing. It's almost like God rigged the game so that those are the things the Catholic Church should not be concerning itself with.
I actually agree with you about the flaws in other churches as well. Hell, I could give you grueling accounts of my own conflicts with the hierarchy of my denomination. One's seminary career gets cut very short when they get in a verbal sparring match with a bishop. Unfortunately much of Protestantism is still Catholic-Lite, still obsessed with the same worldly obsessions, still succumbing to the same illusions of temporal power and reputation, still imposing alien rule on people with no concern for the reality of their lives.
To be honest, I don't disagree with you entirely but I don't agree with you entirely either.
If you see the Church purely as an entity that seeks to control others with no other care than its own reputation then you see only what you want to see. You don't see the Church at the grass roots level, where many wonderful things happen by ordinary people in their commitment to serve The Lord through good works and charity towards others.
Nor do you see the fact that the Church is the biggest private healthcare provider for AIDS patients. 25% of the worlds AIDS hospitals are funded by the Catholic Church.
Throughout the centuries the Church ran hospitals and missionaries in many parts of the world, many people are alive today thanks to the Church (and others outside the Church too of course) but you know, it's almost like it doesn't matter. People don't see it because they don't want to see it.
And I genuinely do not accept that the Church imposes alien rule on anyone, never mind the fact they are doing it with no concern for their lives.
The Church promotes the word of God as proclaimed by the Lord Jesus himself and people are free to accept or reject without any comeback whatsoever.
The new atheists influenced by the likes of Dawkins kick the Church on a daily basis. Many who were once part of the Church have fled for whatever reasons but this isn't Islam you know. There's no quote in the Bible that says "Death to the apostate". If you leave, sorry to see you go but the door will always be left open if you want to return.
If the Church was as powerful as some make out, there would be no gay marriage or abortion in the world. The fact that there is only demonstrates the view people have towards the Church is quite flawed.
Many Protestants who openly attack the Church will at the same time inwardly pray that the Pope is able to influence matters such as abortion or gay marriage or euthanasia because many of us believe in the same beliefs.
It's a funny old world.
The gospel is easy to understand. There is one God the Father almighty who is Lord over all and who sent his only begotten son Jesus Christ who was born of the virgin Mary who taught the truth to Israel and suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried. He rose from the dead on the third day and was witnessed by the apostles among others then ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of God and will judge the living and the dead in accordance with God's Word. All who put there faith in Jesus and live according to his words abiding in His Spirit, the Holy Spirit, will recieve His life which is eternal. That is the gospel, believe and repent unto the salvation of your souls. All to the Glory of God the Father and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.
What is the meaning of the Gospel? Well the Gospel itself means good news. And the good news means that God has sent his divine and only son, Jesus Christ for various reasons.
I. To preach the good news of God's eternal kingdom.
II. To heal the sick, the blind, the mute, the deaf, those who are under demonic attack.
III. To give out the bread and wine as his body and blood as a memorial at Catholic mass.
IV. To suffer for the sins of humanity and to die for us on the cross.
V. To resurrect from the dead and ascend into Heaven. Jesus says that he'll remain with us until the end of time.
Thanks for the video. So, what are the implications for those who live by the Protestant view of salvation?
Melvin Shuster I know this is a month-old comment, but I’ll try to shed some light. I think what’s he’s getting at is that yes, we are all saved, but by not following the traditions and teachings and participating in the physical continuation of Jesus’ church, we are not as whole as we could be. The church essentially “focuses” us on what is true and right and good, letting us live in tune with Jesus in the best way
@@sethgarries3219 Thanks for taking the time to respond to my comment. I totally agree.
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I love your videos bishop. The only thing I am tripped up here is lack of scriptural evidence for such a claim of uncertainty in salvation. Couldn't that be dangerous for us believers to be uncertain about our standing with Father God, the Son, and Holy Spirit? I dunno I'm not convinced, Jesus is Savior shouldn't we just trust him? And didn't Jesus already save man? Would love to hear your feedback! Cheers
+Zion Ofriel Hey; first let me give you a few verses to consider:
“For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” (1 Cor. 1:18) (Note
the progressive tense; being saved, perishing)
“I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth.” (Rev. 3:15-17)
“Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.” Phill. 3:13
“Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.”
(Rev. 2:10-11)
“But my righteous one will live by faith.
And I take no pleasure in the one who shrinks back.”
But we do not belong to those who shrink back and are
destroyed, but to those who have faith and are saved." (Hebrews 10:38-39)
“If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment
and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.” (Hebrews 10:26-27)
I do want to comment on one more thing. You said, ”Jesus is savior, shouldn’t we just trust him?” I know what you mean, and we certainly ought to trust Him, but “trust” carries a couple of different meanings.
In the first case, “trusting in Christ” means kicking back and letting him do everything, giving you the freedom to relax and watch him work. In the second, “trusting in Christ” means following him into the darkness, taking up your cross, and following Him even unto death. It means trusting Him as a soldier trusts his commanding officer; by following him into battle. We pursue him relentlessly and throw off every hindrance in order to become more and more like him, all so that we may find eternal life in knowing His Father.
If we are honest with ourselves, the second of the two meanings of “trusting in Christ” is the more scriptural option, though we, of course, rely on his infinite mercy to help us in our stumbling efforts.
+Hunter Smith... Paul implied in 2Cor. 5:8 that he was saved and would surely be in Heaven with God if and when he died , so why can't you if you feel the forgiveness and loving care of God and become obedient son of Him ? Read also 1 John 5:13
Knowing that you have eternal life isn't the same thing as entering heaven when you die. "Eternal" means a fullness of life, and we can experience fullness of life in the present, in having fellowship with God. We can examine ourselves in the present using the standards prescribed in 1 John and other places to determine whether or not we have eternal life in us at the present; we can be "sure" that we are cooperating with the Spirit of Christ and experiencing eternal life in the present. When Paul and others are talking strictly about Heaven they usually use the phrase the "hope of the resurrection"; emphasis on the word hope. We can hope confidently in the resurrection, but we should always keep in mind that we will fall out of the state of fellowship with him in the present if we sin willfully. That isn't me talking, it's the clear witness of scripture. It's also true to experience. You love God and rejoice in his forgiveness more when you are obedient to Him. You mention 2 Cor. 5:8; read 5:9-10.
Hunter Smith May be you study philosophy , logic and theology , but they cannot save you . And If you are not sure of your final destination that means you are in doubt of everything , Pity yourself because you are like a brainless fisherman who is spearing in the dark
BLUEBIRD Brother, if you mean that theology (study of scripture) has no place in the Christian life, you'll find yourself in scarce company. "Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me." If that sounds like a pitiable life to you, I suppose we'll just have to disagree on this one.
New font is kinda hokey...
As a Protestant, I agree with this more so than the oversimplified evangelical view of the "gospel". The only thing I'd really disagree with is the part at the end, cuz I think assurance of salvation is important.
No one can be absolutely sure unless he received a special revelation from God like a vision.
"and yet man knoweth not whether he be worthy of love, or hatred" (Ecclesiastes 9:1, Douay).
So at the root of it Catholics believe it is the sacraments that wash away their sins that they might enter heaven in the end. Sounds to me like Paul would say the similar things to the Catholic church as he said to the Colossians. Who were turning back to the law and not continuing to trust fully in the blood of Jesus.
The grace of the cross is channeled through sacraments. That's how we view it. The bible says, "baptism saves us now" (1 Peter 3:21).
*The Lord Jesus Christ didn't contradict the Law (Torah). He contradicted the TRADITIONS OF MEN, the TALMUD.*
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How ignorant would it be to state that the theology of Martin Luther, his justification by faith alone comes from a man terrified of losing his own salvation? That his rampant fear caused him to pine for such a solution and has become a seed for protestants to adopt the attitude of, anything goes.
+Dave Jacobson I'm sure that's not that ignorant to state. I believe it was Tim Staples who said that Luther suffered from "Scrupulosity", a spiritual disorder where one obsesses over their sins to the detriment of their service to God. I admit, I had that mildly as well, doubting that God could have mercy on me (which I know is a terrible sin...)
+Dave Jacobson Maybe to an extent, but he was reacting against a Catholic Church that did nothing whatsoever to assuage it. On the contrary, the real temporal, political problem underlining the Reformation was how the Roman Catholic Church was using its power to withhold the Gospel from the people of German so as to extort money from them. The Romans were exploiting people's fear of damnation and selling back the artifice of piety in a mercantile exchange.
The Five Solas - salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone on the cross alone as told in Scripture alone - is a credo of liberation from anyone who would seek to ferment your insecurities about God's Love and your relationship with God in order to exploit you. Our fight as Lutherans isn't even really with the Catholic Church anymore. It's with the relentless secular messaging that if we don't buy this or do that or say the right thing or identify ourselves in the right way, then we are worthless. It is against Evangelicals who say that you're not REALLY saved if you haven't had an adult conversion experience, and against Social Justice Warriors who say that if you don't voice the right opinion then you're a racist and a bigot and a sexist. It's against atheists who say that if you're not an atheist then you are by definition an ignorant moron, and Muslims who say that if you don't have your whole body covered you're a slut, and feminists who say that if you don't have your whole body uncovered then you're a misogynist, and the unending stream of advertising saying that you have to buy this or that or the other thing to be fulfilled. THAT is the proper context through which to understand Luther's beef.
+Lightsoutlightson1 Think about the phrase,"I have faith in God". We have grown accustomed to hearing it, so we don't see the difficulty in it. To have complete, absolute faith in God would imply that you know Him completely and absolutely, which cannot be accomplished in this life. Even if you have absolute faith, the object of your faith is mostly shrouded in mystery, for you still see him "through a glass dimly".
Also, to be completely saved is to be completely and utterly free from sin, and beyond that, to participate in the divine life more and more until the absolute consummation of your faith in the age to come. Most of us continue to struggle with sin until we die, and none of us participate completely in the divine life until the death of our flesh, though we do begin to participate in eternal life as we grow in our relationship with God.
Faith in this life is always a journey. We must "take up our cross daily and follow him". Faith, in this life, is the journey down the path in the direction of the one who calls us. It is the nature of this faith that it isn't certain, though it can be more and more confident, more and more hopeful, and more and more joyful.
"Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus." Phill. 3:13-14
+Hunter Smith I, too, agree.
The gospel is the gospel of the kingdom!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah died for his people! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people at his coming! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Matt 24
14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Thomas: Directly calls Jesus God
Jesus: Directly affirms the belief of Thomas and calls him blessed
You: Jesus didn't think He was God
Stop being disingenuous
@@michaal105
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Because Jesus said if you’ve seen him you’ve seen the Father
God raising Jesus from the dead is the ultimate stamp of approval from God on Jesus
So to me, Thomas can say my Lord (Jesus) and my God (the Father)
Thomas sees the Father at work in Jesus
Literally verses earlier Jesus says tell my brothers I’m ascending to my God and their God (the Father)
So Jesus has a God, and the God of Jesus is the God of the disciples also
Be really strange that Jesus just said they have the same God but somehow Thomas has a different God?
John 20
17 Jesus said to her, “Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.”
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Jesus has a God
Who is Jesus’s God?
Who is Paul referring to as “the God of our Lord Jesus Christ”?
Who is Peter referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”?
Who is Jesus referring to when he says “my God”?
Rom 15
6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Cor 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
2 Cor 11
31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
Eph 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
Eph 1
17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,
Col 1
3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,
1 Pet 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Rev 1
6 and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev 3
12 He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.
@@mitchellc4 You say that but Paul literally calls Jesus the "great God and Saviour" Jesus. And the Greek text makes it clear that there's not a conma before "And". Both "God" and "Saviour" have the same object - Jesus. Titus 2:13
Who is allowed worship?
Deuteronomy 6:13 - You shall fear only the Lord your God; and you shall WORSHIP HIM AND SWEAR BY HIS NAME.
Matthew 28:9 - And behold, Jesus met them and greeted them. And they came up and took hold of His feet and WORSHIPED Him.
Matthew 14:33 - And those who were in the boat WORSHIPED HIM, saying, “You are certainly God’s Son!”
Luke 24:50-52 - And He led them out as far as Bethany, and He lifted up His hands and blessed them. While He was blessing them, He parted from them and was carried up into heaven. And they, after WORSHIPING Him, returned to Jerusalem with great joy
@@michaal105
Hi
Paul never refers to Jesus as God
I highly doubt one verse in Titus is the giant exception and varies depends on translation
It’s talking about two people
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Are you able to answer the question??
Jesus has a God
Who is Jesus’s God?
Who is Paul referring to as “the God of our Lord Jesus Christ”?
Who is Peter referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”?
Who is Jesus referring to when he says “my God”?
Rom 15
6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Cor 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
2 Cor 11
31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie.
Eph 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
Eph 1
17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,
Col 1
3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,
1 Pet 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Rev 1
6 and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev 3
12 He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.
@@mitchellc4 The Greek says "Great God and Saviour" not "Great God and our Saviour"
And in the Greek, both "God" and "Saviour" refer to ONE object (i.e. Jesus). The Greek also doesn't allow for a comma between "God" and "And".
Paul also isn't the only one who records Him as "God and Saviour". Peter does too in his second letter.
I'll repeat - worship is reserved for God ALONE, and yet Jesus receives it.
Considering 1 John 5:13, “These things I write to you, that you may know that you have eternal life, you who believe in the name of the Son of God.” How then is it presumption to claim to know FOR SURE that we are saved?
+beutner "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." Jn. 17:3 In knowing God we receive fullness of life/eternal life; not just meaning life everlasting, but the "fruits of the spirit". Now, we don't know God completely, and won't in this life; therefore, though we can and should experience eternal life here if we are Christians, we never experience it completely, as we will when we see Him face to face. John was making sure they had some basis to judge whether the joys that they were experiencing were of Christ, or whether they were from pleasures or other worldly things.
+beutner .. True and saved Christians who truly feels the forgiveness & loving care of God and who have been serving Him & living according to the written Word of God can know for sure , can claim for sure , and can say for sure that they are the inheritors of Kingdom of Heaven being the children of the living God , so who is this Hunter Smith to say otherwise ?
+beutner It's something called humbleness
I agree humbleness. Humbleness has a component to it that means we see ourselves accurately. Scripture says, "you may know that you have eternal life". Something to praise God for. We can celebrate the promise that grace through faith provides salvation. Praise Jesus!!! Gospel fundamentals. Deity of Jesus, Atonement of His death on the cross, His bodily resurrection, and saying "I do" to Him. This is the good news/gospel that Jesus and Paul, etc. came to share.
Beautiful argument. Love your videos as always. God bless you, bishop Robert Barron!
+Dinh Hoang Tu God bless you!
I would go with what the Holy Spirit inspired Paul the apostle to write in the Scriptures, in the epistles to the church in Corinth about what is the gospel...
Christ died for our sins, He was buried, and He rose again the third day.
Without these core elements, we do NOT have the gospel. Before we talk about the multiple effects and blessings of the gospel on the believer, be extremely clear about the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,
- I Corinthians 15:1-4