[4k] XXXL RC ETA 50% 1:2 IN BIG TROUBLE - flying without ELEVATOR, FLAPS & Rudder Function!
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- The 6th gliding fair in Schwabmünchen 2017 took place at Augsburg from 21. to 23. Juli. Modellpilot.EU visited the exceptional fair and gives you now a detailed report with many Full-HD videos, 4k videos and a picture gallery with over 170 pictures in the new online magazine.
On an area of 10.000m² showed more than 60 exhibitors their highlights and new hits.
(Release date: Juli 2017) - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Dem Gernot gelingt einfach alles. Ein wahrer Held :D
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I am so impressed! To come back from a catastrophic failure and make such a good landing is amazing! Well done, sir!
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That's amazing. Terrific job of staying cool and flying the airplane with what he had available! I love Jeti radios, but I thought they were more reliable than this would suggest. It'd be interesting to see a follow-up on this event to know the root cause of the failure. Thanks as always for the amazing videos!
the fact that this scale models wingspan is similar to the wingspan of actual 15m class gliders is absolutely bonkers
That was an incredible save! Nice landing too, and I’m happy it’s in one piece.
That was pretty intense. I mean it, that was quite exciting. All that from a remote control model aircraft. Thank you for the insight. I never knew.
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Unglaublich. Gratulation !!!
Awesome flying! Great save!
Well done !! So good to see such a great outcome!!
never stop flying the airplane, it is the secret. I was flying a Bruckmann 42%Swift, lost all aileron due to flutter. in that case it was easier to fly with rudder and elevator. but no picnic to get on the ground in one pc. never give up
By the way I met gernards dad at a meeting in harsewinkel. Gernard was about 10 years old at the time and flying patterns with a small electric plane.
This one sailplane pilot was telling of a true story that his friend had happen to him while soaring. The Stick literally broke off in its socket leaving only the rudder pedals and flaps and spoilers for control.. he survived it .. landed it safe like that.
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No explanation as to what went wrong ?? all of those failures on a single flight,was it receiver break down or transmitter issues ? at least the airbrakes worked.
Da kann man von Glück sagen, dass das Modell gut austariert war und das Höhenruder in Neutralstellung stehen blieb. Sonst wärs ganz übel...
Amazing! I,am Happy you able to safe the plane!
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those pilots inside the glider were no dummies
Mega Leistung alle Achtung, da gehört einiges zu so was zu Schaffen Mege Hammer
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Danke. Ich bleib bei Futaba. Aber souverän gemeistert.
is einfach so mit futaba hast keine probleme
Did the pilot do his preflight checks? check that all surfaces were moving correctly before it took off?
I lost my Cirrus back in the '76. I launched it without switching the battery on and no receiver or servos were working. It was launched by bungee line, quite high. The model was soaring perfectly flat in an open country until it vanished over a forest. I thought, that's it, it's gonna crash, but no, it just soared beautifully. Instead of going home, two hours later, we walked towards the forest where we last saw it and came to an open land about two kilometres out and there it is, on a grass field some 500 meters further away (just saw the color at first and thought that's my Cirrus). And, lo and behold there it was, unscathed, unscratched, as if it was put there. The marks on the crass had clearly shown a perfect landing. How is it possible? I thought. Well, that day I thanked the Lord. At least this feeling that I would find the model intact came from God. It could have been worse. Since the incident, I never forgot to switch the transmitter first then the model. Nowadays, you can hear a beeping sound when you switch both on. If you don't hear a sound, then one or the other is still switched off.
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Lots of money involved here. He did a marvelous job getting the bird down and to land it in the runway area was a thing to behold. Speaks a lot for his skill and craftsmanship of the aircraft. Now we need to invent a way to bind another controller while in flight. Controllers are cheap compared to that airplane. Then you only need to bring along a spare.
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TX failure?? Holy shinoly! How does that even happen? I have used Hitec Tx and RX for the last 4 years and they are perfectly reliable.
And how come a model of this size is allowed to fly on just a single TX with no back up?
I thought I was the only one who had forgotten to switch the receiver on the glider. It launched up high and then it glided fairly straight. But then I started to worry about the lack of response. I was 100% sure I did not switch the receiver on. So it drifted away and we had to follow it by car for a fair distance in open country. Luck there was little wind and the glider started to lose height as it was going over a large patch of trees, almost touching the tops, but we couldn't drive through, so we continued of foot, thinking that by now the glider might have crashed and it's time to look for it. We passed the treed area and saw no glider on the tree tops, or the ground, so we kept walking in the open paddocks within Asparagus fields. And there in the fields we saw this while silhouette, hoping it would be the glider. Upon reaching it, there was the glider, masterfully landed on it's own on the soft Asparagus plants. When we picked it up and inspected it, we were absolutely dumbfounded when we found it without a scratch. We thanked God, it could have been worse. So, happy as were, we returned to the Club's ground and continued flying for the day. However, we then had a meeting with members on discussion of Transmitter on, Receiver on, Receiver off, Transmitter off, double sure and triple sure. We didn't want another incident. And we never had another such incident since the compulsory triple checking of switches and functionality of controls before attempt to launch the gliders.
If you have spoilers and ailerons, that all you need. all others are a luxury.
so,basicaly a nice & very sophisticated free flight model,lol!!!!
Wow...amazing save!!
Gernot...DER MEISTER WOOOW.
Did you have a 900Mhz backup receiver ? How did you setup your antennas ? Did you make a full radio calibration before first flight ? What receiver and box are you using ?
Ich Frage mich warum ist zeitweise der ton ausgefallen, womöglich mit dem höhenruder und dem Seitenruder zusammen.wenn das mal keine Absicht war.
Die Lücke entsteht, wenn geschützte Musik durch die Lautsprecher aufgenommen wird , dann streicht TH-cam die Passage zum Ton.
What a great save that was!
What a beautiful airplane! I have a vintage raptor 2.6 meter, very similar, very hard to see in the sky!
Ganz schön große Spannweite! :)
DoubleDee ́s Rc Channel joa damit darfst bestimmt in der mantragenden 15 Meter klasse mit fliegen 😂
Wie kann man so einen Segler ohne HR fiegen? Gernold ist halt Gernold, da kann keiner mit !!
Never came close to stalling... Never got 'Nose down'. There was never any 'Trouble' except he couldn't land whenever he wanted to. Keep it in the neighborhood until it decides to come down.
exactly - you got ailerons, brakes and plenty of height - what's the problem??
aber sehr werbewirksam in Szene gesetzt , und dann auch noch eine Punktlandung , Respekt
Was für ein Sender war das denn?
Ich weiss nicht, schaumal ob man diesen beim Gernot im Video sieht.
Arg.....:( I can not read German !! But did you find out what happened? what was the cause ? Thank's
The transmitter had a right side failure including the right stick (for elevator and rudder) and right switches
Ist die Ursache des Ausfalls bekannt?
Untertitel einschalten!
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I had a recently a similar problem and investigating, can you tell us which hardware configuration you had on board, firmware release in your transmitter and if you found the reason of this problem ?
Jean-Claude Sotto it is a firmware Problem. You have to update the firmware to the newest release. It was caused by to much telemetry and channel data for the processor (as far as I know)
interesting information, did you get that explanation from Jeti can you tell us more. Do you think safe to continue using CB200 box using latest firmware ?
Thanks for your feedback
The problem was solved with the update in summer 2017.
... ♫Du schaffst das schon♫ ab 10:00 - der richtige Titel :-)
Good job
i think the guy next to him lost sight of his plane after this glider came down he looked like he was looking for it a few times
Yes, i could be in this moment, but he only want to land his glider in a free landing aerea. Top interpretation :-)
Habt ihr schon gesehen,dass modellpilot EU einen instergramm Account hat
Den nutzen wir bloß nicht.
Leider keine gute Werbung für Jeti......
Where I can buy a radio controller like that please tell me.
Jetti RC
was für ne Sendermarke fliegt er?
Ich vermute Jeti
Pucker Factor!!!!!
nice!
I would love to read the whole details to this amazing story.
I think you could read it in your language, go to the settings.
By the way, apart from guiding it, no one was flying it. Then again, thousands of free flight airmodellers do that all the time.
How much was it?
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좋아요
고맙습니다
Übersetzung / Text (Norwegish) ist absolute Scheisse - gut, dass mein Deutsch mir noch nicht ganz verlassen hat. Gut gemacht mit dem Fliegen - so fliegt ein Meister!
Danke für den Hinweis lieber Storm Hansen, ist absolut klar warum. Es ist eine automatische Google-Übersetzung aus dem deutschen Text in die norwegische Sprache, welche Du in den Settings eingestellt hast und daher kein übersetzter Text.
Du/Sie haben die Möglichkeit diesen Text als Übersetzung einzureichen, siehe Settings. Danke für den Hinweis.
Indian voodoo dance in the background must have helped...
I am like can see remote control your airplant in the Air, hecker computer
we flew for years without elevator. singke channel.
YES, indeed, but this wingspan is to hughe and risky to fly without rudder, flaps and elevator.
great job getting her down.
But.........it's so big!!
Jeti dc 24 :-o
Naja wenn das irgendwer schafft dann wohl Gernot.
Did you do a preflight check? This seem like a big ohhhhh shit!
Tray radio... Well, there's your problem!
buy better kit
У меня аппаратура за 150 долларов не глючит накупят хуйни
Fly sky i6
Esto es falso.
10000 eur model and a wonky radio
thats why on big stuff you have a failsafe radio
henry dumor haha this model is more than 15.000€ and his remote control was really not the cheap one! But anyway...almost every rc system has its own problems! His jeti rc is about 2200€ and your "failsafe mode" idea had surely killed this model.
If Jim Drake says so it has to be true ;)
Wing's flection on this kind of large scale Is awful and ridicolous
Like the original Eta, ... perfect scale build.
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Sad but true
more luck than common sense - how can one fly a 15 meter rc plane using consumer electronics? rc flying is a great thing to do but some people get us all in trouble by doing stupid things. By the way 15 meter is the wing span of a standard gilder in manned fligth. Their weight is a +200kg roughly. There is a reason for this - a glider of this size needs a certain minimal stability. Weighing just 35kg the rc glieder will fall apart mid air one day. I do hope no one gets killed or insured by this stupid glider...
I think Mr. Gernot Bruckmann knows a bit more about rc planes than you.
And the model is so much lighter than a real glider because there is not enough stability for a human and therefore much less structure needed.
the ETA fula scale and the reproduction as a model flyes due to the same aerodinamic rules and science, stability follows the same considerations. You choose your preferred CG and set the angle of attack with the elevator rig and trim. The elevator trim is programmed to change for any camber setting, I am sure this sound familiar. In Germany, a model of this characteristic, wingspan and weight, must be submitted to the approval of aviation authorities that assist to a full structuraral and load test before to release permission to fly,. The vast difference in weight between a full scale and a model is due to the different payload, the model does not have to carry some 130-150 Kgs of pilot and avionics. The reduced dimension, not just the weight, also are extremely favourable in obtaining the required structural integrity. Some knowledge of composites, aeronautic engineering and calculations can easily demonstrate the point. It is not a linear scale. Do not expect the model is fragile in flight, it is the opposite. Probably the model can take many more G than the fuIl scale. Certainly is the case with the aerobatic gliders. Full scale an their reduce scale models do not compare. A 3,5 meter wingspan Fox or Swift do have VNE three times the original, or much more, and take many more G in aggressive manouvres that are not permissible with the full scale, not only because the pilot would get killed. A model can be, and usually is , immensely more robust in flight than it's full scale counterpart. Your consideration of the 15mt winspan of the ETA model are not comparable to a full scale manned 15m glider. ETA is 30m with small wingchord, its 1:2 model winchord is a toy. The mass of the wings and fudelage are orders of magnitudo apart. I share with you the consideration about consumer electronic, in aeromodelling we use thin wires, small connectors that are not anymore acceptable in today's evolution, where composites permitt the fabbrication of aerodines that are a planet away from the traditional concept of balsa wood of the early days. However, electronic components are the same no matter were you use them, those in your altimeter or whatever full scale avionics, are the same you can find in a model radio or in a cell phone or in a weapon system. The radio system used in this model may be equipped with two different redundant TX and and receivers, which is 100% redundancy that you do not have on your full scale glider in anyone of your apparatus. In addition, it can be added a third TX RX set on a completely different band, as added safety. What is happened in this video, loss of rudder and elevator control, is probably due to a different reason, however I do not have any information about the cause. Probably wires. those connecting the receivers and associated electronics, which are positioned in the cockpit area, to the respective servos in the tail area. Where rudder and elevator are. Which is not an excuse, this should not happen. Fortunately, an excellent pilot and a wonderful aircraft, capable to fly by itself with hight stability, have allowed a "normal flight" and a good controlled landing, right back on the runway. Those are NOT toy drones in the hands of a kid.
Consumer electronics? What a moron.
Bill Burr fan I take it.
Dayum Bro, go an learn more about rc planes, before you start bashing it.
Every single line shows more about your unknown
So how did he land perfectly fine "without ELEVATOR, FLAPS & RUDDER FUNCTION!" .... fucking click bait.
NOT "f'ing click bait," Ben. He used his ailerons to affect the turns and made the turns just tight enough to decrease altitude in small increments all while applying his brakes when the wings were level to kill lift so the sailplane would slowly descend. By putting the sailplane over the runway at the right moment and at optimum altitude, and applying the brakes (which can be seen deploying in the video) he was able to drop it in for an perfect landing. That's how he "did land perfectly fine." Not an easy thing to do but he kept his cool and used his skills and knowledge of aerodynamics and his sailplane to save the bird. Any questions?