Jaune's ability to Amplify Aura's is really underutilized in the show(along with semblances in general). It could be doing a lot more interesting things if the writers would let it, but this is the first time I'm seeing somebody suggest he can see ghosts by amplifying the spirits of the dead. Thats a really cool concept I think would be worth exploring.
It wouldn't work since this fictional universe has an established afterlife that all souls go to with only two literally god enforced exceptions (Salem/Ozma). Having ghosts or spirits of the dead wandering around Remnant doesn't work with the established lore of the show.
@@TheRealRightPrice If your going with a Western model afterlife, maybe. However, they just talk about the afterlife as a place. It could be that the Afterlife layers over the real world and spirits linger in a world beyond normal tangibility.
@@pwnyboy9714 I think that would defeat the stated purpose of the god's punishment for Salem. The god of darkness started that her immortality meant she couldn't be with the one she loved (Ozma). This works fine if the Remnant afterlife is a separate and distinct realm (god of lights word) and that only by death can a person reunite with someone else who's dead. If the Remnant afterlife is just an intangible and (usually but not always) unperceived layer of reality overlapping with the living world that can in the right circumstances be seen or interacted with by living people then the punishment falls apart, since the possibility world exist that Salem could have reunited with Ozma despite him being dead and her being alive.
@@pwnyboy9714 I would also argue that the living people of Remnant would be able to detect the souls of the dead if they remained rather than go to a distinct and separate realm. Everyone on Remnant with an unlocked Aura is able to interact with other people's souls (aura unlocking) and they have the technology to scan for, detect, and measure people's souls. Atlas even has technology that can interact with and manipulate souls (even their scrolls can do it). If souls stuck around on planet Remnant after death I think they would be able to detect them pretty easily. Also, the god of light specifically used the word "realms" to describe Remnant and the afterlife. I think that pretty well indicates that they are spatially separate places.
Since Jaune is based of of Joan of Arc and in the stories she heard the voice of god, it would make sense that Jaune hears a similar voice but it would be Phyrras.
i just noticed that the Flowers Pyrrha's Mom was holding was already at her statue, and that little interaction between Jaune and Pyrrha's Mom at the statue may not have actually been real, which is why i have always thought that Jaune was speaking to a ghost.
This could also bring light to Tyrian's "You do interest me." line back in Volume four. His semblance is cutting through aura so it'd make sense if he could maybe see aura too in a way. Maybe he could tell there was another soul protecting Jaune and was intrigued by this. Maybe that's why he kept staring at Jaune and attacking him first.
This actually would also fit into his inspiration of Joan of Arc, who claimed to be able to hear the voice of god or an angel or something. Jaune being able to hear souls or sense them in some way would be a small nod to that as he is essentially seeing someone that was perhaps permitted to hang around by the gods, providing superficial support that won't frustrate the gods but is still a morale boost that keeps the others motivated
Or alternatively maybe he just goes ham with this semblance later on and devotes himself to the mastery of it until maybe he can pull an Uncle Iroh and just see spirits, maybe getting to the point that he is between worlds, as his aura and soul become twice that of a mortal man. And it would all be thanks to Pyrrha who unlocked his aura for him at the start of it all
Not a sappy writer? Dude, that was beautiful! I really hope that either of those scenarios will come into fruition someday within the series proper. Excellent work!
Jaune hasnt gotten any closure. Hes made peace with phyras desision to act and to fight for what she believes in but there wont be closure until cinder, her killer, is dealt with. The next episode where we finally have cinder come face to face with jaune will for sure be a reminder. I know you may not like it but its unavoidable as long as these 2 characters exsist. Not brinning it up would be a huge mistake like "oh you killed my friend but im just gonna not bring it up at all hur dur who cares"
Awww 🥰 I'd prefer the 1st way with the window to her soul being his semblance, especially cause she was the one to recognize and unlock his aura, but the 2nd way sounded beautiful. Either way I think Pyrrha will be coming up again sooon I hope! And I do agree that she'll be satisfied or completely able to move on once Jaune fulfills her destiny! Can't wait
As a person whose actually lost her best friend (although to cancer and not a superpowered human being) I can say with confidence that there really is no "getting over it" or "closure". The pain of loss certainly gets easier to handle as time goes by sure, but it never actually goes away. It's been over 9 years now since she died and I still miss her and think of her a lot. So I say that RWBY is handling how characters deal with Pyrrah's death exactly as they should be, because it's not so much hammering it in as it is continueing to remember the character. Because that's how REAL loss works so it's relateable Also since Monty Oum's death happened around the time that the episode in which Pyrrah died aired I think the new writers are using Pyrrah to represent what Monty ment to everyone and the scenes where Pyrrah is being remembered are probablly tributes to Monty Also I like your endings. They're nice
Is there any significance to the fact that it was Pyrrha that unlocked Jaune's aura? In using her aura to unlock his, might that have bound then in a spiritual way?
I don't think unlocking another person's aura bounds you to that person in a spiritual way. If that really is people won't just casually unlock another person's aura left and right. I think by unlocking other person's aura it is somewhat similar to HunterXHunter wherein if a persons who has already mastered his/her own aura can easily unlocked another person's aura but due to their society keeping such powers a secret it is seldom done as to avoid any suspicion.
@@lowbridge4080 The prayer she recites while unlocking his aura is also very interesting. Although I don't know whether it means anything. Also I'm not sure but I think it was 'love at first sight' when Pyrrha met Jaune. Her affection for him seemed to start even before their initiation in the forest.
I’m a firm believer of this theory and always thought that. She could sense his massive aura and ability from the get. She was always the most perceptive and was the first to die. But I do believe she exists in some spiritual capacity outside of her previous human existence. It would make perfect sense that unlocking his aura bound them in that way or some other connective way!
I'll bet Jaune's father might assist his son and his friends in the end of V8. The he can explain his side of the story. Including his reunion with some old friends if he knows Qrow. After all, he is one of the original wielders of Crocea Mors.
Isn’t sensing auras already an ability one can train themselves to harness? That’s how Fox “sees”. He senses auras in the world and the absence of them, allowing him to pinpoint where things and people are.
There was a scene in volume four where piragua calling for John in a sound wave form. Before Ruby woke up and nothing else happened after that so you might be onto something.
What about Pyrrha semblance? It don't need body to work. Jaune can empower others so what if he empower Pyrrha ghost? She wouldn't become visible but there would be one time help from afterlife. Maybe he would be fighting Cinder and she would be on last legs but seconds from killing disarmed Jaune. Then Crocea Mors fly covered in black aura (the same of Pyrrha magnetism) either to his hand or mortality stab Cinder
If it would be Pyrrha guiding Jaune’s sword, would it be like how she guided Jaunes shield in the earlier seasons while fighting the bear Grimm? As in he boosts the auras so much that, for that brief moment, her semblance could be used and it was to guide his sword? Or would it be something else?
If you want a cinematic moment for Pyrrah to help Juane in combat, I think it would be good for him and Cinder to be swinging their swords down at one another, and Pyrrah to push up Juane's shield so it blocks Cinder's blow, as Juane finished the strike and breaks Cinder's aura knocking her to the ground. I don't say kill her, because I don't think they will. But knocking her down and out? Yeah, I could see that. If you wanted to be more subtle, you could even have Juane's shield glow with a black outline as it rises to block the blow. That would be unobtrusive enough to let the scene play out without major interruption, but obvious enough so that anyone watching the show will get what it means.
What if they did the first option, but with Jaune getting wreckless in fights leading him to get seriously injured, almost killed, then the scene from the second option happens, and then continue with the first option? More Pyrrah.
Going off of this, a good moment he could've had was at the Haven fight when Cinder stabbed Weiss. As Weiss is sitting there with the sword though her stomach, an image of Pyrrha when Cinder killed her appears, roughly the same position, but because of the situation and adrenalin, he brushes it off as his mind playing tricks. It then cuts to the conversation Jaune has with Ruby, telling her he saw Pyrrha helping them. He makes a off-hand remark how something similar happened at Haven, and Ruby upon hearing the image he saw, just freezes when she realizes its the same image she saw.
I like the idea of jaune´s semblance having an effect on the soul´s of others, having said that can he be hable to hurt salem not just physically but to her soul as well?
Love the theory, only thing I was thinking is that Ren already has his new tracking type semblance thing and I doubt they would give both of them such a similar power. Not saying it isn't possible as Fox can also see auras and track people, I just doubt they would give 2 people on the same team such similar semblances.
The way i would want her back is if cinder is having a mental health episode. She has the maiden powers but she is alone outside of salem. Cinder starts talking to the air but she sees Pyrrha. She telling cinder that the pain she has in that moment is on herself. She wanted power so bad that she hurt others to get it. Plus would love if jaune was the one to take off cinders legs forcing her to replace them with grimm
But aura sensing is already a thing, Ren has done this, though its more of an active ability that requires concentration, though it would make a lot of sense for Jaune to be able to more easily do these aura based things, or to amplify these abilities of himself or others
There was one that used the transfer of made powers at the fall of Beacon. It used the reverseed aura transfer to make her aura in cinder and Jaune boosts her aura and they do the 2 soul idea that ospin has with the reincarnation.
I think id really only be happy with one big moment, but one that phyrra doesnt physically appear. So, its the final battle, chaos everywhere and Cinder and Jaune have found each other and are locked in combat. And Cinder gets the upper hand. She's on the attack and pushing him and pushing him and she rakes her blade down the length of his shield arm, shredding his aura and making him drop the shield and making his arm go limp. Just impress on the viewer on how he cant use the shield anymore. (Or cut the arm off but thats the same arm as Yang so i dont really know about that) the shield falls and bounces off the ground once, but for a few frames before we cut away, we see that hazy black outline around the shield, the hum in the air as the shield doesnt clatter to the floor. As we cut its hung in the air. Cinder gloats for just a moment before going for the finishing blow before his shield rises to block the blow but not entirely. The blade goes clean through the metal, actually getting the point of it to pierce his armor but it didnt run him through. The shield crumples against Cinders arm, almost folding in on it as Juane takes the single moment of confusion to stab Cinder. Just right through the chest, his fist against her chest as the blade buries itself down to the hilt. And make it a clear moment that only the shield has that hazy polarity effect, Phyrra may have protected him, but he stopped Cinder. And then the shield slides off Cinders sword as she falls back, body and shield falling to the floor, the moment over. Its nothing romantic, nothing where ypu see phyrra, but its still very clear shes been there with him, and now shes gone, at peace
Their soul are technically intertwined, didn’t she unlock his semblance with hers? Remember how she was drained but she said how he uses his semblance is up to him. Maybe at that moment his spirits were lifted so it set a course to him empowering people “lifting up their spirit”?
I was hoping it would be kinda similar to a gurren Lagan thing, where at the end Salem shows them a reason to join her, but pyrrahs spirit shows up cause of our bois semblance, and goes “lmao no” and then epic fight ensues. Obviously very simplified, but still
I am of the opinion that the song "Forever Fall" is not Pyrrha to Jaune but rather the other way around. That she is his forever fall. While he could move on and that is natural... sometimes you can't. My father never moved on after Mom died. We told him he could and she would want him to... but he couldn't.
I think a good idea for the final culmination of Jaune's semblance would be some like like "Avatar," where Jaune fully connects with the remains of Pyrrha's soul through love or passion, and can channel her semblance in tandem with his own
I was thinking an army of the dead rallied to him by Pyrrha. In a battle, The ghosts amplified by Jaune's bubble allows the ghosts to USE their semblances WITHOUT disappearing at maybe the cost of expending Jaune's aura.
So an idea this video inspired was a form his evolved semblance could take. What if it evolves into a form that is something akin to the Schnee/Sun's summons? A physical manifestation of his aura that can act sem-independently to protect/fight/heal. While the Schnee's can manifest a summons of any Grimm they encounter/kill and Sun can make multiples, Jaune would be limited to just the one. Pros: Can remotely heal/reinforce others aura's, using the chunk of aura it has Fights along side him or others Limited interaction with other physical objects (open doors, push buttons, carry someone, etc) Cons: Takes a lot of his aura (50% or more of his max) and if destroyed or spends all its aura, its gone Might also cause his aura to regen slower than it normally does after the summons Somewhat limited range (needs to be within a certain line of Jaune) It can only harm Grimm or other Aura's, but cannot cause physical harm to others/objects Of course the form it'd take, at least initially, would be of Jaune's' ideal protector, Pyrrha. I figure it'd be made of a white/gold light and its face somewhat vague on detail, like the god of creation, but still clearly Pyrrha. It could be completely robotic, or perhaps manifest certain physical ticks of Pyrrha when fighting or interacting with others. If the latter, it is then left up in the air whether this is just Jaune's subconscious giving it a bit of life, or if its something more. It opens the door to the form changing later, but I like the idea of it being a way to sorta bring Pyrrha back to fight beside JNPR, but not actually be her exactly. This evolution wouldn't be beyond what we've seen in other aura's and would essentially be an extension of his base ability to protect and heal others.
At the time of season 5 I theorized how they could bring back Phyrra. It required staff of creation and 2 maidens. Plot is soul gets attached to person with personal connection. Phyrra attaches to Cinder through her death and because she started receiving this power. Only maiden souls can transfer between bodies. With staff 1 maiden could switch control of Cinder body over to Phyrra. Now imagine Phyrra drama living in mutilated body of Cinder, and Jaune having to deal with her in the body of most hated person.
as a person that only could watch up to season 3, & cannot aford to see the rest outside of "reaction videos/reviews", but sinse there is a lot of "after live implications" no matter what they do if they show it, how about jaune expandind his aura in a more "solid way" think "vine zeki´s semblace" as a guide, or just "aura armour" like "extra thick medieval style energy armour" and say somethhing like "while like this i get extra resistance/strength" maybe something like " i cannot heal other like this BUT i get ALMOST as strong as a Fully charged Nora/Yang" i mean , no requirements BUT he cannot help other this way,
I know this is a great theory but with the finishing blow on cinder there is a point that you might have missed. Would Pyra actually want Jaune to kill someone? Would Pyra actually want Jaune to act in anger and vengeance? Maybe Jaune would need to detain Cinder instead. Give her a chance to become better and teach her how to be better just like pyra did with Jaune.Just before the finishing blow Pyra just looks on from behind cinder and shakes her head after stopping Cinder would probably wish for death so that she can escape the consequences and her sorrow. Jaune will not become Cinders Killer but actually the protector of redemption.
@@yogibewear8617 Theirs a bit more to it then that... like the fact that john could boost his own aura making the powers he copies from an opponents aura even stringer then how it is for them.
Like some sort of extreme aura manipulation semblance. To manipulate his aura until it’s on the same wavelength as someone else’s when theirs activates and copy their semblance. Hell, try to memorize the pattern and be able to go into it later
I still think that some time before the end of RWBY one of the main cast will have to be tempted at least by at least one of the relics if not by Salem herself. Tempted to do something which would give them a love one back like Pyrrha or Summer Rose. Say the Staff of Creation and creature or recreate life not just be a power source....Jaune would be so tempted by that. I actually see Jaune and Pyrrha like I see Ozma and Salem, Salem went to the gods to get Ozma back after he died and that started her down that path, I wouldn't be surprised if seeing the power of the Relics Jaune wouldn't be tempted to see if he could bring back Pyrrha I don't think he would give in but he would be tempted at least.
Not bad, but when you brought up the epic, tragic, and closing moments, there was a 4th type that you forgot to mention: i call it the dramatic/genie moment, such as where Darth Vader is revealed to be Luke’s father, or where Yang’s mother was revealed saving her on the train, only to find she’s a complete dick in the next few volumes. The kind of thing where you get to see the character return or the thing happen, but it’s twisted in such a way, it contradicts everything the character wanted. spoilers* In this case, I think a good way for Pyrrha to return would be not as a human or a soul, but as a grim, or one of Salem’s other servants, and most importantly, one that contradicts everything we know and loved about Pyrrha in the first place. In the new volume, we’ve already seen people be used as a part of a living and thinking Grimm, so this kind of monster could push not just the white knight, but every member of team JNPR and RWBY to consider their own moralities and ideals, because at the end of the day, she’s a Grimm. She doesn’t have her soul anymore and therefore it may not be her anymore. But on the other hand, they still feel conflicted, hoping against hope that the red head is still in there somewhere.
...crazy idea: The Relic of Creation can make anything, right? But says that he cannot bring people back to life... but we saw what he did to Penny in the last episode, so... would it not be possible for him to create a new body for Pyrrha, and Jaune does something with his Semblance that bonds Pyrrha's soul into a new body?
I don't and probably never will understand the viewpoint of "Jaune and Pyrrha and never meaningfully reunite." Every reason or excuse just doesn't make any objective sense.
Unfortunately, Yang isn't the tank Jaune is Yang can increase her power by taking damage not fortify herself an explosion of that magnitude would kill her Jaune, on the other hand, can probably tank a lot of the dmg but I doubt even he would come out alive.
Best way for it all to go down something big happens and Jaune grips the cloth Pyrrha wore looks at it for a moment and does pulls an ultimate sacrifice moment. He’s laying down not doing great after they’ve won and everyone’s trying to keep him up while they get help and he just turns to oz and asks “will she be there,” everyone is telling him to stay awake and oz just nods as he smiles and drifts off. He appears in the same white realm and hears “hello Jaune,” he turns around and smiles as a tear falls from his eye and they cut it. Bam you want a good ending for Jaune you got it
I didn't know ppl were bothered by the like handful of times Pyrha is referenced. I'd say est shit. Shes a huge part of Jaunes character. Cry a river, I like all these ideas but I don't think the characters talking about stuff thats happen is bad. They basically talk about nothing the way it is now. Quick reminded. Its been like 2 seasons sense jaune saved weiss's life and she hasn't even said thank u. Barely even acknowledges his existence...
Ozpin had already been dead. When the God of light that humanity has perished, that's when he chose to return to the afterlife assuming Salem would have just arrived.
so hear me out could pyrraha's sister be a twin and she shares a mind with her sister. Not the same powers but with knowlege that neither she or her sister had before one twin had died. Both push to the same goal, knowing that an end must come. Pyrrha burst into golden dust as she died, so she might not have died completely, likely the same as Oz when he dies. Could the god of light have chosen another to push his point that you all can be the best but the best of you would die, AS THEY SHOULD, will be the best of humanity, if salem wasnt there to push the best of humanity into the burden of hate and regret.
Honestly, they shouldn't have offed Pyrrha and instead should have done something else. I was so hopeful that Pyrrha would have been returned as an antagonist, where she was sent to Salem and eventually completely warped mentally, turning her into the ultimate weapon Salem uses against the rest. This would have added more depth and made the story a lot more intense seeing them have to fight against someone they cared for.
Personally i think he will use rhe sword to kill cinder and in exchange for that power it kills him and as he closes his eyes surrounded by jnpr he hears pyras voice saying she is proud of him.
Jaune's ability to Amplify Aura's is really underutilized in the show(along with semblances in general). It could be doing a lot more interesting things if the writers would let it, but this is the first time I'm seeing somebody suggest he can see ghosts by amplifying the spirits of the dead. Thats a really cool concept I think would be worth exploring.
It wouldn't work since this fictional universe has an established afterlife that all souls go to with only two literally god enforced exceptions (Salem/Ozma). Having ghosts or spirits of the dead wandering around Remnant doesn't work with the established lore of the show.
@@TheRealRightPrice If your going with a Western model afterlife, maybe. However, they just talk about the afterlife as a place. It could be that the Afterlife layers over the real world and spirits linger in a world beyond normal tangibility.
@@pwnyboy9714 I think that would defeat the stated purpose of the god's punishment for Salem. The god of darkness started that her immortality meant she couldn't be with the one she loved (Ozma). This works fine if the Remnant afterlife is a separate and distinct realm (god of lights word) and that only by death can a person reunite with someone else who's dead. If the Remnant afterlife is just an intangible and (usually but not always) unperceived layer of reality overlapping with the living world that can in the right circumstances be seen or interacted with by living people then the punishment falls apart, since the possibility world exist that Salem could have reunited with Ozma despite him being dead and her being alive.
@@pwnyboy9714 I would also argue that the living people of Remnant would be able to detect the souls of the dead if they remained rather than go to a distinct and separate realm. Everyone on Remnant with an unlocked Aura is able to interact with other people's souls (aura unlocking) and they have the technology to scan for, detect, and measure people's souls. Atlas even has technology that can interact with and manipulate souls (even their scrolls can do it). If souls stuck around on planet Remnant after death I think they would be able to detect them pretty easily. Also, the god of light specifically used the word "realms" to describe Remnant and the afterlife. I think that pretty well indicates that they are spatially separate places.
Miles to Kerry: "Write that down, that's good!"
Shouldn't it be Eddie to Kerry now?
@@fernandogonzales9240 Probably, though Miles has said he'll still be doing some writing for RWBY, just freelance (if I remember correctly)
@@percivallavoie4415 I think I heard that too
As if they would ever implement such good ideas
Since Jaune is based of of Joan of Arc and in the stories she heard the voice of god, it would make sense that Jaune hears a similar voice but it would be Phyrras.
Jaune: Do you believe in destiny?
Cinder: I did...and it seems I was a fool.
**Jaune kills Cinder**
YOU ARE DED, NOT BIG SUPRISE!
Write that down that needs to be in the script
God I hope this happens.
This was neat and makes a lot of sense. Your theories are a reminder that the show has the potential to be very interesting.
i just noticed that the Flowers Pyrrha's Mom was holding was already at her statue, and that little interaction between Jaune and Pyrrha's Mom at the statue may not have actually been real, which is why i have always thought that Jaune was speaking to a ghost.
This could also bring light to Tyrian's "You do interest me." line back in Volume four. His semblance is cutting through aura so it'd make sense if he could maybe see aura too in a way. Maybe he could tell there was another soul protecting Jaune and was intrigued by this. Maybe that's why he kept staring at Jaune and attacking him first.
This actually would also fit into his inspiration of Joan of Arc, who claimed to be able to hear the voice of god or an angel or something. Jaune being able to hear souls or sense them in some way would be a small nod to that as he is essentially seeing someone that was perhaps permitted to hang around by the gods, providing superficial support that won't frustrate the gods but is still a morale boost that keeps the others motivated
Or alternatively maybe he just goes ham with this semblance later on and devotes himself to the mastery of it until maybe he can pull an Uncle Iroh and just see spirits, maybe getting to the point that he is between worlds, as his aura and soul become twice that of a mortal man. And it would all be thanks to Pyrrha who unlocked his aura for him at the start of it all
Not a sappy writer? Dude, that was beautiful! I really hope that either of those scenarios will come into fruition someday within the series proper. Excellent work!
Thanks so much, glad you liked it!
OOOH THE PYRRHA APPEARANCE (aPYRRHAnce) WAS SO FREAKY
“Goddammit, Yang (Barb)!” XD
Bro literally screamed "WOAAAAHHH!!" when I saw this video I don't see much Jaune theroy content here so I was happy to see it
Jaune hasnt gotten any closure. Hes made peace with phyras desision to act and to fight for what she believes in but there wont be closure until cinder, her killer, is dealt with. The next episode where we finally have cinder come face to face with jaune will for sure be a reminder. I know you may not like it but its unavoidable as long as these 2 characters exsist. Not brinning it up would be a huge mistake like "oh you killed my friend but im just gonna not bring it up at all hur dur who cares"
Awww 🥰 I'd prefer the 1st way with the window to her soul being his semblance, especially cause she was the one to recognize and unlock his aura, but the 2nd way sounded beautiful. Either way I think Pyrrha will be coming up again sooon I hope! And I do agree that she'll be satisfied or completely able to move on once Jaune fulfills her destiny! Can't wait
As a person whose actually lost her best friend (although to cancer and not a superpowered human being) I can say with confidence that there really is no "getting over it" or "closure". The pain of loss certainly gets easier to handle as time goes by sure, but it never actually goes away. It's been over 9 years now since she died and I still miss her and think of her a lot. So I say that RWBY is handling how characters deal with Pyrrah's death exactly as they should be, because it's not so much hammering it in as it is continueing to remember the character. Because that's how REAL loss works so it's relateable
Also since Monty Oum's death happened around the time that the episode in which Pyrrah died aired I think the new writers are using Pyrrah to represent what Monty ment to everyone and the scenes where Pyrrah is being remembered are probablly tributes to Monty
Also I like your endings. They're nice
Pyrrha:
I'll always be here for you Jaune
*Jaune after his wedding night*
19:20 Could be a nice little callback to V1 where Pyrrha guided Jaune’s shield against the Ursa.
Is there any significance to the fact that it was Pyrrha that unlocked Jaune's aura? In using her aura to unlock his, might that have bound then in a spiritual way?
I don't think unlocking another person's aura bounds you to that person in a spiritual way. If that really is people won't just casually unlock another person's aura left and right. I think by unlocking other person's aura it is somewhat similar to HunterXHunter wherein if a persons who has already mastered his/her own aura can easily unlocked another person's aura but due to their society keeping such powers a secret it is seldom done as to avoid any suspicion.
@@lowbridge4080 The prayer she recites while unlocking his aura is also very interesting. Although I don't know whether it means anything. Also I'm not sure but I think it was 'love at first sight' when Pyrrha met Jaune. Her affection for him seemed to start even before their initiation in the forest.
I’m a firm believer of this theory and always thought that. She could sense his massive aura and ability from the get. She was always the most perceptive and was the first to die. But I do believe she exists in some spiritual capacity outside of her previous human existence. It would make perfect sense that unlocking his aura bound them in that way or some other connective way!
I'll bet Jaune's father might assist his son and his friends in the end of V8. The he can explain his side of the story. Including his reunion with some old friends if he knows Qrow. After all, he is one of the original wielders of Crocea Mors.
8:06 ~ 8:17 I GOT GOOSEBUMPS HERE
Isn’t sensing auras already an ability one can train themselves to harness? That’s how Fox “sees”. He senses auras in the world and the absence of them, allowing him to pinpoint where things and people are.
She's probably in Cinder. let's just say Cinder and Oscar have an interesting reflection.
"She's probably in Cinder."
Emerald is undoubtedly very jealous right now. 😆
@@johannesseyfried7933 yes this is also true lol
@@johannesseyfried7933 Cause it's emerald job to get Fall Maiden powers
Jaune: I see dead people
There was a scene in volume four where piragua calling for John in a sound wave form. Before Ruby woke up and nothing else happened after that so you might be onto something.
What about Pyrrha semblance? It don't need body to work. Jaune can empower others so what if he empower Pyrrha ghost? She wouldn't become visible but there would be one time help from afterlife. Maybe he would be fighting Cinder and she would be on last legs but seconds from killing disarmed Jaune. Then Crocea Mors fly covered in black aura (the same of Pyrrha magnetism) either to his hand or mortality stab Cinder
If it would be Pyrrha guiding Jaune’s sword, would it be like how she guided Jaunes shield in the earlier seasons while fighting the bear Grimm? As in he boosts the auras so much that, for that brief moment, her semblance could be used and it was to guide his sword? Or would it be something else?
Ok. That’s it. WHO IS CUTTING ONIONS ?!?!
I would totally read this fanfic.
If you want a cinematic moment for Pyrrah to help Juane in combat, I think it would be good for him and Cinder to be swinging their swords down at one another, and Pyrrah to push up Juane's shield so it blocks Cinder's blow, as Juane finished the strike and breaks Cinder's aura knocking her to the ground. I don't say kill her, because I don't think they will. But knocking her down and out? Yeah, I could see that.
If you wanted to be more subtle, you could even have Juane's shield glow with a black outline as it rises to block the blow. That would be unobtrusive enough to let the scene play out without major interruption, but obvious enough so that anyone watching the show will get what it means.
What if they did the first option, but with Jaune getting wreckless in fights leading him to get seriously injured, almost killed, then the scene from the second option happens, and then continue with the first option? More Pyrrah.
Going off of this, a good moment he could've had was at the Haven fight when Cinder stabbed Weiss. As Weiss is sitting there with the sword though her stomach, an image of Pyrrha when Cinder killed her appears, roughly the same position, but because of the situation and adrenalin, he brushes it off as his mind playing tricks. It then cuts to the conversation Jaune has with Ruby, telling her he saw Pyrrha helping them. He makes a off-hand remark how something similar happened at Haven, and Ruby upon hearing the image he saw, just freezes when she realizes its the same image she saw.
I like the idea of jaune´s semblance having an effect on the soul´s of others, having said that can he be hable to hurt salem not just physically but to her soul as well?
Love the theory, only thing I was thinking is that Ren already has his new tracking type semblance thing and I doubt they would give both of them such a similar power. Not saying it isn't possible as Fox can also see auras and track people, I just doubt they would give 2 people on the same team such similar semblances.
The way i would want her back is if cinder is having a mental health episode. She has the maiden powers but she is alone outside of salem. Cinder starts talking to the air but she sees Pyrrha. She telling cinder that the pain she has in that moment is on herself. She wanted power so bad that she hurt others to get it. Plus would love if jaune was the one to take off cinders legs forcing her to replace them with grimm
Great idea, the. Ruby would teach her a lesson with silver eyes.
But aura sensing is already a thing, Ren has done this, though its more of an active ability that requires concentration, though it would make a lot of sense for Jaune to be able to more easily do these aura based things, or to amplify these abilities of himself or others
You know, you could say that this was foreshadowed in the Volume 4 training scene. "I will always be there for you..."
There was one that used the transfer of made powers at the fall of Beacon. It used the reverseed aura transfer to make her aura in cinder and Jaune boosts her aura and they do the 2 soul idea that ospin has with the reincarnation.
The way he said he look at yang and OMG ITS PYRRHA
Oi. Shush. Your not supposed to talk yet.
Salem: What did you do with the lamp? It's missing. Where is it?
>:0
U dare say I took the lamp 😌😏
What kind of ice cream girl do u think I am I'm a- IM TAKING THE LAMP ITS MINE NOW!>:) EMERALD DID SOMETHING
I think I'd want to see a father son kamehameha moment. Where Jaune is doing the final swing or something and shes there with him doing it
Does weed exist in the world of RWBY? Cause if it does, that would be very handy?
I really love this. It would make an amazing story.
Has anyone considered that the relic of choice could let someone make a different choice they made in the past
I think id really only be happy with one big moment, but one that phyrra doesnt physically appear.
So, its the final battle, chaos everywhere and Cinder and Jaune have found each other and are locked in combat. And Cinder gets the upper hand. She's on the attack and pushing him and pushing him and she rakes her blade down the length of his shield arm, shredding his aura and making him drop the shield and making his arm go limp. Just impress on the viewer on how he cant use the shield anymore. (Or cut the arm off but thats the same arm as Yang so i dont really know about that) the shield falls and bounces off the ground once, but for a few frames before we cut away, we see that hazy black outline around the shield, the hum in the air as the shield doesnt clatter to the floor. As we cut its hung in the air. Cinder gloats for just a moment before going for the finishing blow before his shield rises to block the blow but not entirely. The blade goes clean through the metal, actually getting the point of it to pierce his armor but it didnt run him through. The shield crumples against Cinders arm, almost folding in on it as Juane takes the single moment of confusion to stab Cinder. Just right through the chest, his fist against her chest as the blade buries itself down to the hilt. And make it a clear moment that only the shield has that hazy polarity effect, Phyrra may have protected him, but he stopped Cinder. And then the shield slides off Cinders sword as she falls back, body and shield falling to the floor, the moment over.
Its nothing romantic, nothing where ypu see phyrra, but its still very clear shes been there with him, and now shes gone, at peace
Get this man an animator.
Their soul are technically intertwined, didn’t she unlock his semblance with hers? Remember how she was drained but she said how he uses his semblance is up to him. Maybe at that moment his spirits were lifted so it set a course to him empowering people “lifting up their spirit”?
THE PYRRHA REVEAL IS AMAZING THIS IS MY FAVORITE THEORY
I was hoping it would be kinda similar to a gurren Lagan thing, where at the end Salem shows them a reason to join her, but pyrrahs spirit shows up cause of our bois semblance, and goes “lmao no” and then epic fight ensues. Obviously very simplified, but still
I am of the opinion that the song "Forever Fall" is not Pyrrha to Jaune but rather the other way around. That she is his forever fall.
While he could move on and that is natural... sometimes you can't. My father never moved on after Mom died. We told him he could and she would want him to... but he couldn't.
Damn you you made me cry
Not a sappy writer bro im crying.
So basically spiritual pressure from Bleach.
I think a good idea for the final culmination of Jaune's semblance would be some like like "Avatar," where Jaune fully connects with the remains of Pyrrha's soul through love or passion, and can channel her semblance in tandem with his own
I was thinking an army of the dead rallied to him by Pyrrha. In a battle, The ghosts amplified by Jaune's bubble allows the ghosts to USE their semblances WITHOUT disappearing at maybe the cost of expending Jaune's aura.
Kinda like in LOTR
So an idea this video inspired was a form his evolved semblance could take. What if it evolves into a form that is something akin to the Schnee/Sun's summons? A physical manifestation of his aura that can act sem-independently to protect/fight/heal. While the Schnee's can manifest a summons of any Grimm they encounter/kill and Sun can make multiples, Jaune would be limited to just the one.
Pros:
Can remotely heal/reinforce others aura's, using the chunk of aura it has
Fights along side him or others
Limited interaction with other physical objects (open doors, push buttons, carry someone, etc)
Cons:
Takes a lot of his aura (50% or more of his max) and if destroyed or spends all its aura, its gone
Might also cause his aura to regen slower than it normally does after the summons
Somewhat limited range (needs to be within a certain line of Jaune)
It can only harm Grimm or other Aura's, but cannot cause physical harm to others/objects
Of course the form it'd take, at least initially, would be of Jaune's' ideal protector, Pyrrha. I figure it'd be made of a white/gold light and its face somewhat vague on detail, like the god of creation, but still clearly Pyrrha. It could be completely robotic, or perhaps manifest certain physical ticks of Pyrrha when fighting or interacting with others. If the latter, it is then left up in the air whether this is just Jaune's subconscious giving it a bit of life, or if its something more. It opens the door to the form changing later, but I like the idea of it being a way to sorta bring Pyrrha back to fight beside JNPR, but not actually be her exactly.
This evolution wouldn't be beyond what we've seen in other aura's and would essentially be an extension of his base ability to protect and heal others.
At the time of season 5 I theorized how they could bring back Phyrra. It required staff of creation and 2 maidens. Plot is soul gets attached to person with personal connection. Phyrra attaches to Cinder through her death and because she started receiving this power. Only maiden souls can transfer between bodies. With staff 1 maiden could switch control of Cinder body over to Phyrra. Now imagine Phyrra drama living in mutilated body of Cinder, and Jaune having to deal with her in the body of most hated person.
Can Fiona put Salem in her semblance?
The leaving yellow spirits of jojo characters just dying , a tragic/epic moment
as a person that only could watch up to season 3, & cannot aford to see the rest outside of "reaction videos/reviews", but sinse there is a lot of "after live implications" no matter what they do if they show it,
how about jaune expandind his aura in a more "solid way" think "vine zeki´s semblace" as a guide, or just "aura armour" like "extra thick medieval style energy armour" and say somethhing like "while like this i get extra resistance/strength" maybe something like " i cannot heal other like this BUT i get ALMOST as strong as a Fully charged Nora/Yang" i mean , no requirements BUT he cannot help other this way,
"we can fight like she is here."
This made me cry 😭
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Personally, I think a nice bit of writing closure would be Jaune dying and reuniting with her in the in-between before they both fully pass on.
I know this is a great theory but with the finishing blow on cinder there is a point that you might have missed. Would Pyra actually want Jaune to kill someone? Would Pyra actually want Jaune to act in anger and vengeance? Maybe Jaune would need to detain Cinder instead. Give her a chance to become better and teach her how to be better just like pyra did with Jaune.Just before the finishing blow Pyra just looks on from behind cinder and shakes her head after stopping Cinder would probably wish for death so that she can escape the consequences and her sorrow. Jaune will not become Cinders Killer but actually the protector of redemption.
Imagine if Jaune arc basically became John doe from the webtoon Unordinary once he's mastered his aura fully
Oh... OH. OH shit.
Basically making a Copy of another semblance
@@yogibewear8617 Theirs a bit more to it then that... like the fact that john could boost his own aura making the powers he copies from an opponents aura even stringer then how it is for them.
Like some sort of extreme aura manipulation semblance. To manipulate his aura until it’s on the same wavelength as someone else’s when theirs activates and copy their semblance.
Hell, try to memorize the pattern and be able to go into it later
I am curious on if the god of light can bring people back from the dead or not
I still think that some time before the end of RWBY one of the main cast will have to be tempted at least by at least one of the relics if not by Salem herself. Tempted to do something which would give them a love one back like Pyrrha or Summer Rose. Say the Staff of Creation and creature or recreate life not just be a power source....Jaune would be so tempted by that. I actually see Jaune and Pyrrha like I see Ozma and Salem, Salem went to the gods to get Ozma back after he died and that started her down that path, I wouldn't be surprised if seeing the power of the Relics Jaune wouldn't be tempted to see if he could bring back Pyrrha I don't think he would give in but he would be tempted at least.
I wish this theory was right but pretty obvious CRWBY is going with Rose Garden.
nice theory
Why is yang burning? Lol
They should hire you lmao
Yeah seems legit. 👍
Not bad, but when you brought up the epic, tragic, and closing moments, there was a 4th type that you forgot to mention: i call it the dramatic/genie moment, such as where Darth Vader is revealed to be Luke’s father, or where Yang’s mother was revealed saving her on the train, only to find she’s a complete dick in the next few volumes. The kind of thing where you get to see the character return or the thing happen, but it’s twisted in such a way, it contradicts everything the character wanted.
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In this case, I think a good way for Pyrrha to return would be not as a human or a soul, but as a grim, or one of Salem’s other servants, and most importantly, one that contradicts everything we know and loved about Pyrrha in the first place. In the new volume, we’ve already seen people be used as a part of a living and thinking Grimm, so this kind of monster could push not just the white knight, but every member of team JNPR and RWBY to consider their own moralities and ideals, because at the end of the day, she’s a Grimm. She doesn’t have her soul anymore and therefore it may not be her anymore. But on the other hand, they still feel conflicted, hoping against hope that the red head is still in there somewhere.
Wow I've never seen so few comments
...crazy idea: The Relic of Creation can make anything, right? But says that he cannot bring people back to life... but we saw what he did to Penny in the last episode, so... would it not be possible for him to create a new body for Pyrrha, and Jaune does something with his Semblance that bonds Pyrrha's soul into a new body?
Penny was been hack--not dead well umm...yeah
I don't and probably never will understand the viewpoint of "Jaune and Pyrrha and never meaningfully reunite." Every reason or excuse just doesn't make any objective sense.
Fox from team cofy can see aura
Lol hope not if he ends up with Weiss.
just stick yang in the whale with the bomb, have Jaune amp up her aura a ton, yang absorbs the bomb and then obliterates the Grimm hoard and whale
Unfortunately, Yang isn't the tank Jaune is Yang can increase her power by taking damage not fortify herself an explosion of that magnitude would kill her Jaune, on the other hand, can probably tank a lot of the dmg but I doubt even he would come out alive.
You should write for the show lmao
Would this be cool to happen? Yes. Will it happen? Probably not. Us fans tend to be better writers than the actual writers of shows.
Best way for it all to go down something big happens and Jaune grips the cloth Pyrrha wore looks at it for a moment and does pulls an ultimate sacrifice moment. He’s laying down not doing great after they’ve won and everyone’s trying to keep him up while they get help and he just turns to oz and asks “will she be there,” everyone is telling him to stay awake and oz just nods as he smiles and drifts off. He appears in the same white realm and hears “hello Jaune,” he turns around and smiles as a tear falls from his eye and they cut it. Bam you want a good ending for Jaune you got it
I didn't know ppl were bothered by the like handful of times Pyrha is referenced. I'd say est shit. Shes a huge part of Jaunes character. Cry a river, I like all these ideas but I don't think the characters talking about stuff thats happen is bad. They basically talk about nothing the way it is now.
Quick reminded. Its been like 2 seasons sense jaune saved weiss's life and she hasn't even said thank u. Barely even acknowledges his existence...
Ozpin had already been dead. When the God of light that humanity has perished, that's when he chose to return to the afterlife assuming Salem would have just arrived.
My theory about Jaune is that his aura boosting is something anyone can do(Pyrrha did it to Jaune) and his actual semblance will come later
so hear me out could pyrraha's sister be a twin and she shares a mind with her sister. Not the same powers but with knowlege that neither she or her sister had before one twin had died. Both push to the same goal, knowing that an end must come. Pyrrha burst into golden dust as she died, so she might not have died completely, likely the same as Oz when he dies. Could the god of light have chosen another to push his point that you all can be the best but the best of you would die, AS THEY SHOULD, will be the best of humanity, if salem wasnt there to push the best of humanity into the burden of hate and regret.
Honestly, they shouldn't have offed Pyrrha and instead should have done something else. I was so hopeful that Pyrrha would have been returned as an antagonist, where she was sent to Salem and eventually completely warped mentally, turning her into the ultimate weapon Salem uses against the rest. This would have added more depth and made the story a lot more intense seeing them have to fight against someone they cared for.
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God damn whatever ending they come up with will be garbage because of this theory!!!!
Can they please make you a writer for this god forsaken show
Personally i think he will use rhe sword to kill cinder and in exchange for that power it kills him and as he closes his eyes surrounded by jnpr he hears pyras voice saying she is proud of him.
I ship Jaune and Nora
I'm not crying, you're crying