Im trying kof15 its better than sfv at least. However i hate the auto-combos it kills identity and combo creativity. Sf4 had that in spades so many people like "only poongko can do that with seth." Honestly making games easier doesn't make the fgc bigger only temporarily inflates it. Then those same people that wanted FG easier are gone bc they will get bored quick. So making Hardcore fighting games easy for a wider audience is basically pointless. Also i noticed some of these new generation of players are the most condescending know it all smartasses i ever seen. Them being good in these watered down FG like sfv with meta inflates they're egos to the max. The moment they try sf4 they cant even do one fadc combo with ryu. Im gonna try kof 13 and more of the old school FG i love games that push me to be better as player. Also can you give me a list of recommend hardcore FG you like so i can try some.
sf4 and kof13 should always remain the main course in every serious players diet forever(lets hope we get a rollback re-release in the future). if you wanna go "mid school" go for third strike and kof2002um (kofxi is also an amazingly deep and often overlooked game.) snk vs capcom, neo geo battle colliseum (ps2 era guilty gears are very hardcore and technical but in a different way. same for blazblue).i mean...to be honest, at this point almost EVERY game that came out before the ps4 generation is more "hardcore" than kof15 and sf5
"only poongko can do that with seth." That is why SFV will never be considered as great as SF4. You wanted to see "smug's Dudley" "Justin's Rufus" "Snakeyes Gief". There are simply no more Character Specialist When I saw SFV didn't have FADC I knew it would never be better than SF4 tbh. FADC was one hell of a Mechanic. It's funny. I was watching Panda Channel and the 1st thing Kizzie wishlisted for SF6 was Focus attack. I never felt more validated. SFV at it's core is a poorly done Arcsys game. All of the offense but none of the defensive nuances that make Rushdown fighter work(like Burst and Shield). It's getting a KD and then guessing if they are prepared to be thrown or not. I will not buy SF6 if it has the lame ass Shimmy based fighting system of 5. And for the love of god bring back chip. I hate how chip kills have become this demon.
theyre pushing a lot of old school tournaments too(ff2s, gmotw). theyre testing the waters and trying to see which direction would be more lucrative going forward (casual kiddy stuff or hardcore)
Agree wholeheartedly The main reason i got this is honestly the DJ station feature to enjoy some old tracks . The combos system isn’t that great and honestly disappointing , i want those drive cancels that link specials together , HD mode that divided skill in the playerbase . and that True trial mode that felt so great to finish
Btw,KOF 02um tutorials would be great,it would be nice if someone could explain how to max mode run more consistently since most people just breeze thru it
I’ve really been enjoying KOF XV, I think it’s one of the better fighting games I’ve played, but I respect your opinion, and I hope you get the game you’re looking for very soon. Love the accent by the way
I really dig the legacy characters getting added + most of the base roster. That auto-combo mashing weak punch really needs to go. There should be an option to shut it off, at least. Other than that, it's much better than SF5, for me. Capcom dislikes their old fans alot worse than SNK. When was the last Dark Stalkers entry? Last 2 seasons of SF5 dlc was too weeby & gay.... No Sodom (ha ha), Rolento, Adon, Gouken, Abel.... we got Poison, Rose, Akira, Kage, Dan 👎. Only one super but 2 V-triggers was a strange choice.
I don’t hear you talking about the actual scrub stuff but you seem to only talk about combos. I mean which is fine but fighting games take a lot more than combos to win like footsies, positioning, knowing your character, knowing frame data, matchups and a lot more.
thats a given (and its been there since the very first fighting game ever released). footsies, spacing, frame data are nothing but a means to an end (the "end" being "getting in"). you take timing and complexity of execution out of the equation and you remove the stakes! which is what keeps the adrenaline pumping! whats my motivation for "getting in" if once i get in i will just do the same, brain dead, autopilot combo that took 2 minutes to master, does 700 damage and gives zero satisfaction?(not to mention anyone who just started playing fighting games a week ago can do the same combo. so there goes my individualism ,pride, motivation and showmanship...) its all about the risk/reward dynamic. "footsies, positioning, knowing your character, knowing frame data, matchups" alone is what i been doing up till the alpha1 and kof98 days...i dont need a slower,looser,easy mode version of barebones concepts like that 25 years later in 2022. been there/DONE THAT!
@@devinnelson5371 no, i want "hard to execute combos" and "timing based links" because thats what kof and sf have been gradually evolving toward over the course of 25 years! (and we have been evolving with it)until one day they decided to devolve backwards! i signed up to play CHESS! you wanna play checkers? go play the 100s of other fighting games that offer checkers , and everybody wins, and we are all happy.(instead of turning chess into checkers). do you see my point? or do i have to keep explaining why "a video game company selling out their principles and fans of 30 years in order to get away with putting as little effort as possible into their work and selling it to a bunch of clueless kids who dont know any better" is bad? i dont know how old you are but in MY generation there was nothing worse than a sellout! jesus christ, rappers used to get shot in 94 for wearing a polo shirt!!! and now theyre walking around in literal skirts and dancing with katy perry in candy land with cgi gummy bears and nobody bats an eye! you celebrate sellouts now, so why do i bother wasting my breath ! you won! happy? you had 99% of the market giving you exactly what you wanted. and now you have 100%! congratulations!
> these people are selfish *whole video is basically just crying over the game not being KOF13 and how "true fans" are getting screwed over* huh if you think KOFXV is simplified jesus wonder how you feel about BBTAG
@@ShortFuseFighting The full video actually, you relentlessly compared it to 13 and how 13 looks better and plays better, as much as i actually agree with you its incredibly unfair since SNK literally nearly went bankrupt after 13 and comparing a game with sprites to models is already messy. Im just saying, you call others selfish but have the "im an older player and i deserve x y z" mentality which is quite literally riddled in selfishness and entitlement lol, if the game was a heaping shit storm id understand that mentality but this goes beyond "i dont like the game" and into "im going to bitch and moan its not this game for 13 minutes". The game isnt even over simplified, the combos are actually MORE interesting and varied than games like 98, auto combos arent even that good either and arent encouraged since on block its literally death. You go HEAVY on casual audience and try to blame them for what "happened" simply because you just didnt like the game. Also i find it fucking hilarious you played the game for 10 hours yet claimed to have scoured the game for depth and couldnt find it, obviously you wont find depth when youre practically day 1 into the game
@@freefromdesire9 I been doing this for 27 years now!I dismantled entire engines from top to bottom and discovered some of the most obscure, counterintuitive and convoluted combos, glitches and exploits imaginable. I could tell the game had zero depth after 2 minutes (the other 10 hours were just a courtesy out of fairness)...you clearly managed to both "miss my point entirely" as well as "make my point for me"... TWO franchises!!!! That's ALL we were asking for.... TWO Games to remain hard,unapologetically technical, complex and precise.... OUT OF 100s and 100s! But nope... Has to be ALL casual ALL the time(no exception allowed). 50% of the community simply does not deserve to get 2 games. Not enough to have 100s of easy mode games to choose from (if that's your thing)... HAVE to take THE ONLY TWO NON EASY MODE GAMES WE HAD and make them easy mode too... Because... FAIRNESS!!! snk could have been a a legend this year and had THE ONLY hardcore game on the market this Gen. And every hardcore player would have played it exclusively.(but they didn't have the balls to do that... Ironically) Instead they are now in a piss context with the upcoming sf6 (which they will Lose BIG TIME). Enjoy your empty shell of a game! Lol I remember how shills like you came at me on day one of strive beta (now strive being a brain dead joke is common knowledge and the biggest meme in the fgc). Same when I ragged on xiv from even before the first trailer came out. Look at the prevailing opinion now! I could list a 100 other occurrences ... Time always ends up proving me right against those with zero foresight... So yeah, I don't like xv cause it's not xiii (aka the gold standard of modern fighting games). You got a problem with that? lol how DARE I demand a 2022 game to be up to the standards (I don't mean visually btw) of a game from 12 years ago??? What a loon eh? That's crazy talk... Strap me in a straitjacket immediately! lol I feel like Oliver Twist asking for more soup (and you degenerates still somehow find it "unreasonable")
@@ShortFuseFighting i boiled down your point into shorter shit, maybe bad on my point but lets not act like your point was anything really deep in the first place, to be honest you enjoy what you enjoy and i enjoy what i enjoy, KOFXV isnt the hardest fighter in existence but its a damn fun one and is certainly not a degrade from KOF and what KOF stood for. I do not know what you expected either of course SNK are going to try to appeal to casuals if it worked so well for strive BUT what i think youre missing is XV actually did it correctly without stripping XV of what made its predecessors so good. I find it fucking hilarious youre saying SF6 is going to kill XV or something even though we have seen 0 gameplay 0 ANYTHING other than the teaser. Its also funny how you call me a shill, i play KOF and its my main series so frankly, fuck off. I dont like strive either infact i hate most of strive and dropped the game when i realised how bored i was. If your standard is KOF13 you are going to wait YEARS for anything close lol. SNK literally revamped the system like they always do for this saga and now max mode is different, drive meter and EX moves arent too different from eachother sure but youre blatantly ignoring what makes EX moves so good. They made max mode in XV feel purposeful which in other KOF barring 02UM and 13. Ill for sure enjoy XV its a game i fuck with whilst i can also dabble more w 98UMFE/02UM. Is what it is i just found your blatant hypocrisy fucking hilarious LOL
@@freefromdesire9 oh wow,you hate and have dropped strive because you were "bored" because its a stripped down version of ITS PREDECESSOR? boy, that sounds AN AWFUL LOT like what i just said about xv, doesnt it?talk about HYPOCRISY. and yes MY POINT was deep! cause its not just about fighting games...look around you! donald friggin trump was president of the united states! qanon was a thing!!!! barely intelligible morons mumbling 20 words a minute into a microphone are best selling musical artists! keeping up with the kardashians is the hottest show on tv and jake paul is the biggest youtuber on the planet! EVERYTHING is getting dumbed down and oversimplified into oblivion! and it happened gradually...little by little! one principle forwent here, some pride let go there, today is all links in kofxv are 3 frame, tomorrow is gonna be "all links are chains". and then f+LP is gonna serve as a special...and then universal block by holding backward without switching stances. i drew MY line 10 years ago (when there was still a chance to do something about it) you drew YOURS at strive! if you listened to me when sf5 came out THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO "STRIVE" FOR YOU TO DROP! just like youre not listening to me NOW! see you next gen when every fighting game is gonna be snk heroines!
Fun game that gets stale fast. Quickmode activation into 80% damage with no execution requirements has made anchor rounds play out the same. Players all using the same strategies. Game will be a ghost town online in the coming months. Casual players/casual gameplay = easy come, easy go. The sad part is people are right about this game. It's one of the better fighters of this generation.
@Zold Tekken's current problem is movement, which was nerfed forcing players into 50/50 situations more often. Back dash especially, one launcher combo may lead to wall carry, the player needs to guess oki (which isn't as bad as older Tekkens), but with your back against the wall it could lead to death. As two combos is almost enough to take the round. Tekken is still a heavy knowledge check game which prevents it from being casual trash. As it can sometimes feel almost like a full time job to play at high level. If you haven't played or seen a character for 2 weeks to 3 weeks, and are of similar skill that's all it takes for a player to beat the other. Tekken was never really about execution difficulty outside of KBD, and character specific things like Taunt upper, or EWGF, or specialty movement like Nina.
I remember disagreeing with your previous video but after playing 15, it feels better than 14 and that's where the positives end lol. I think SNK just doesn't understand that KoF will never appeal to the mainstream, so there's no point in removing what veterans enjoyed to appeal to newcomers who still get filtered by some of the super inputs. If someone enjoys this I dont mind and I still play it but I'm waiting for kof 13 rollback and I wont care about any future fighting games. DNF duel looks fucking boring and that game is considered hype by the FGC
While I do see your point and agree to some extent, I, as an Ash main, gotta ask. Do you really miss his old Sans-Culottes combos? Do you reeeaaaaalllyyy miss them?
Great Channel and videos my issue with SNK since KOFXIII Was every combo (and mixups) were tailor-made you rarely can come up with new combo routes or mixups KOFXIII still feels incomplete for me as its missing many moves and 70% of characters are never seen in serious matches I have been playing KOF02UM for the past 11 years every other fighting game got boring so quick however KOFXV is on the right track to be good game after the recent balance patches still everything is tailor-made but the game is intense and requires great refluxes since punishable attacks are so few maybe you shall give it another try as it gets better in 2023 (if kofxv is not dead by then lol)
let me ask you...is there something in YOUR life that you are truly passionate about? and you have invested 27 years of blood sweat and tears into honing that particular skill? something you are proud of? something that gives you a sense of well earned and deserved satisfaction? do you play the piano? draw? play baseball? rock climbing? or any other thing? dealers choice...now imagine being forced to regress back to playing twinkle twinkle little star, drawing basic stick figures, swinging a bat at a ball sitting on a peewee pedestal or climbing a jungle gym intended for children. all the finger dexterity and speed, the spatial awareness of perspective light and shadow, the strength precision and physical fitness...all meaningless...all useless now! EVERYTHING worth doing in life is hard! we dont go around changing sports, art etc just so everybody can feel like they can do it! you wanna do it, put some effort into it! what the hell is so wrong with THAT? this isnt a controversial view. its only logical...you cant do something? well, you can either keep trying until you learn or go do something else that doesnt require effort...not CHANGE THE WHOLE ENTIRE INDUSTRY IN ORDER FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO AVOID DOING THE WORK! and thats whats wrong with fighting games becoming more simplified (especially you already have 100s of simplified fighting games out there...you REALLY couldnt leave us 2????is that SO unreasonable?)
@@ShortFuseFighting OK you see this crap right here dude it's a video game stop taking this so seriously and just learn to have fun. Not everything needs to be a challenge this is why I don't know if I agree on this review like you seriously can't find anything good about it, just because they made it more simple man that's some bull crap
I agree with what you said in your video . And i love your mafia like voice...so damn cool lol. You just got yourself a new sub. Loving your rants because most of them are truth.
That's your opinion tho and sadly you and all those that agree with you are a small part of this community, that isn't enough to keep this genre alive. FG's aren't just about complex combo's, poking is often most of your damage so complexity isn't all that, FG's are also about finding solutions to situations and conditioning/figuring out your opponent, it's a puzzle in a way. Puzzles take time and dedication but they aren't necessarily complexe or hard. Tbh has we grow older, responsibilities stack up (family, work, etc) and I speak mostly for myself, I don't necessarily have has much time to put in "dedication, time, patience, will for complexe fighter's" but I still enjoy them and a bit of loose isn't bad imo. Companies wanna survive so they evolve with the player base and the newer generations don't like to struggle or put in has much work because it's so easy to share information now, and they are used to getting all the info from the start and they expect to be good from the start otherwise they lose interest. They see fg's has what they are "games" and thus they don't see the point of struggling for somethings that is supposed to give them enjoyment or a shot of dopamine. I roam the discords and XV is still considered a hard fighter, imagine. I don't mind the toned down difficulty if it means more ppl get to play and enjoy the game, without putting in crazy amount of time. I started with 03, XI and XIII are personal favorites, i think XV is in a good in-between but like I said some think it's still hard and others the opposite, you can't make everyone happy.
sorry bro...but thats corporate shill mentality. its that defeatist -"shrug/ehh what can you do?" attitude that normalized things like "patrons being deputized into paying servants wages by tipping them while the employer gets to pay them peanuts".and if you dont tip they look at you like YOURE the A$$HOLE...so the "patricians" not only win again, but effectively weaponize your own fellow peasants against you (and their own best self interest). i dont play that SHlT, and i never will! we live in a world where i cant even use "no-no words" in MY OWN comment, in MY OWN comment section, on MY OWN video (without getting shadowbanned into oblivion). we have crossed the line into idiocracy and theres no going back! im not gonna be doing the "if you cant beat them, join them"...i would die for my principles (whether its fighting games OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD. MY principles havent changed since the early 90s and they never will...thats why theyre PRINCIPLES! ). you dont have time to put the work in? perfectly understandable...go play one of the HUNDREDS of other fighting games on the market designed ESPECIALLY for that...
I wish The King Of Fighters XV has unreal engine 5, open world, character creation, arcade mode, survival mode, english voices, 16 new characters, story trailer, customization, supported languages, japanese announcer, female announcer, new modes, interactions, and story mode chapters I wish The King Of Fighters XV was announced as a first trailer at State Of Play 2022 I wish The King Of Fighters XV was released in Late 2023, or Early 2024
7:30 thats a hard to swallow pill quote. 10:18 what is the first game before snk heroine? And also, does this mean that Under Night and Blazblue remained intact in terms of technicalities?
I love kof 98 its my fave but this feels easier and alot more floaty like you said. I was hoping for something like 13. At this point if they updated 2002um to look like 13 id be playing that alot more.
let me make this clear. i absolutely LOVE 98' (in fact its one of the best fighters of all time) ...FOR ITS TIME! now we evolved from that. when i wanna play 98(and i DO...often) i GO PLAY 98!(i dont need a 2022 game to play like a lame easy mode, training wheels version of 98)
@@ShortFuseFighting i agree. But not only are games getting easier they are coming out incomplete too(maybe not fighting games) but i havnt been able to pick up anything new without it being easy and not complete for another 8 months to year. Love your content and cant wait to see what you put out.
@@ShortFuseFighting I have been telling People on Steam that this game is just 98 and 2002um with a new Bar Gimmick. It's the same strings for most legacy characters. My issue with KOF XV is it doesn't seem to Evolve the gameplay that much. If you knew how to play Iori in 98 you know how to play him in this version. Say what you will about SF but Ken and Ryu are different in each version and Capcom is perfectly fine with them sucking if they suck. What I want from KOF are fundamental changes. Basically, a KOF where it feels like we are all learning. That's what SF does well. You can take your past knowledge of Character motions with you but that's typically it(sometimes they will even change those).
And I'm genuinely happy for you and I hope you have fun. I have enjoyed fighting games far more simplistic than xv (our main gripe is that this is all there is available now. No variety in the offerings. Nothing to really sink our teeth in. Remember, for some of us a big event like a main entry kof game is supposed to be relevant and last us for a decade). Xv will fizzle out in a few months....
@Short Fuse Well I can't fully agree with that personally. I doubt it will fizzle out in a few months but to each their own. Not trying to change your mind or anything. I can only speak for myself and no one else.
hes back.and not holding back lol but yup thats just this generation of fighting games. sex appeal and making them easy and annoying as possible. its all about the money. i will say i have the game. its fun for now but i kno a month later its going to be a terrible annoying kof game. its why i stop playing fighters much and focus on other games now and days
The only fighting games i play till this day is kof 98 , 2002 and 2002 um. Sf2 turbo and 3rd strike. Other modern fighting games just dont appeal to me. I feel that the fighting games nowadays lost its appeal and becoming lustre.
I gave XV so many chances and holy hell, I cannot for the life of me vibe with it. Outside of the terrible matchmaking & netcode is a game where literally nothing feels right at all. Stiff movements, crappy buffers, and an extremely bipolar combo system. People who are saying that this is the smoothest and the best balanced KOF in history are nothing short of DELUSIONAL. On God. It blows my fucking mind that this game gets so much worship when it's just an inferior KOF 98/02um... standards for fighting games are nonexistent at this point.
I literally broke one of my physical games, because I tried again. Sometimes I just need to learn to realize that people will hype up and play anything no matter how shit it is when it comes to AAA gaming. Call of Duty is still a hyper popular franchise, despite the games being garbage for years.
@@HiyaImGeo we need to accept when something is dead and gone. took me 10 years of hope and disappointment until i finally gave up. didnt even watch the new trailer for garou (cause i already know without shadow of the doubt what its gonna be)
I blame the influencers a little bit too. They do have some form of power to say something but they never do. If they actually said what they really felt without worry of there button line. im sure many of there followers would simply follow but instead no they brown nose and if you say anything about that said easy mode game you're a boomer.
i wouldnt say a little...its A LOT! and none of them actually enjoy these games (i know that for a fact). every big youtuber that was into fighting games at least pre 09 was FORCING himself to play sf5. they just go where the money is. truth =/= youtube money. i guarantee you if maximilianguy or whatever started calling it easy mode garbage you'd have a bunch of 10 year old kids parroting the same thing and they would all be "all about dat hardcore yo!".
@@ShortFuseFighting How hard is it to remember the name Maximilian dood, If Max did complain about some of these easy modes and games he would probably do it in a way people would understand and agree with him stop looking in the bad of people just because they are popular. Once you can't really say all these big name gamers Hate some of these games just because you do.
I fucking love you, brother. If gabagool could talk, it would sound like you. When you speak, I can smell the cannoli in your breath. You sound like you live in the back of some restaurant called Tony's Pizzeria and your parents are named Luigi and Valentina. Please never stop making content.
Kof 16 will suck when they go back to 3D and use similar mechanics from doa I know the day is near I hated kof impact series because it not like the classic kof games I grew up with
I know I am late but while I can honestly say I enjoy some of these more modern games, I cannot deny the truth in these statements. Some of which I have caught myself echoing about SFV over the years of playing it. But yeah it is a shame you cannot find enjoyment in these. At least we still have the old school jams.
I agree in all but KOF and SNK were dying bro. Instead CAPCOM and sf5 were thriving. SNK drop their best with XIII and we failed them. The game didn't sell well so they play dirty now and I don't blame them I don't want SNK to die. Stay alive to fight another day...
i'd rather see them bow out gracefully and leave behind a respect worthy legacy...then to be reduced to THIS! (and limp on in disgrace...like a castrated eunuch). you either die a legend or you live long enough to become a JOKE
"to be fair"...yes it IS, but....thats not saying much. we are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find a semblance of a redeeming quality (and it shouldnt be like that)
KOF was never my strong suit as far as fighting games go but I refuse to believe that KOF XV is the braindead easy game you make it out to be. I'm just saying. I will have a hard time landing combos in this game just like its predecessors. I played KOF 94 through XI on emulators back in the day but not online just arcade mode.
if you did combos in 94 through xi you will not drop a single combo in this...believe me, its not gonna happen. if neo geo/atomis era KOFs are your only frame of reference, this will blow your mind. you dont jump/hit with heavy on the way down on one of the last frames possible/link into a string of lights on the ground using TIMING/and quickly cancel into special here. ... you just press the buttons whenever you feel like it and everything will link regardless . its so loose that its basically "chains".even the corner juggles require no timing .in real kof games, each juggle had like 3-5 different timings/heights when you could catch the opponent and would give different outcomes and proprieties to the juggle and what you could or couldnt subsequently do with it. a lot of the juggles were practically one frame links if you wanted to continue the hardest combo. theres none of that here. (and yes, kof 13 was much looser with the normal links than the predecessors...but it more than made up for it in other departments. this on the other hand strips away ALL technical difficulty and gives nothing back. like a swarm of locusts devouring everything of substance in their path, leaving only bare bones behind as they pass)
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Fuse , i honestly wish people would focus on the mechanics of Maximum Impact RA and how great and advanced it was .
that games needs a revival ASAP
Im trying kof15 its better than sfv at least. However i hate the auto-combos it kills identity and combo creativity. Sf4 had that in spades so many people like "only poongko can do that with seth."
Honestly making games easier doesn't make the fgc bigger only temporarily inflates it. Then those same people that wanted FG easier are gone bc they will get bored quick. So making Hardcore fighting games easy for a wider audience is basically pointless.
Also i noticed some of these new generation of players are the most condescending know it all smartasses i ever seen. Them being good in these watered down FG like sfv with meta inflates they're egos to the max. The moment they try sf4 they cant even do one fadc combo with ryu.
Im gonna try kof 13 and more of the old school FG i love games that push me to be better as player.
Also can you give me a list of recommend hardcore FG you like so i can try some.
sf4 and kof13 should always remain the main course in every serious players diet forever(lets hope we get a rollback re-release in the future). if you wanna go "mid school" go for third strike and kof2002um (kofxi is also an amazingly deep and often overlooked game.) snk vs capcom, neo geo battle colliseum (ps2 era guilty gears are very hardcore and technical but in a different way. same for blazblue).i mean...to be honest, at this point almost EVERY game that came out before the ps4 generation is more "hardcore" than kof15 and sf5
@@ShortFuseFighting you aint bout that but ill try these games out for sure thanks for the list. Also gave you a sub man you funny asf
"only poongko can do that with seth."
That is why SFV will never be considered as great as SF4. You wanted to see "smug's Dudley" "Justin's Rufus" "Snakeyes Gief". There are simply no more Character Specialist
When I saw SFV didn't have FADC I knew it would never be better than SF4 tbh. FADC was one hell of a Mechanic. It's funny. I was watching Panda Channel and the 1st thing Kizzie wishlisted for SF6 was Focus attack. I never felt more validated.
SFV at it's core is a poorly done Arcsys game. All of the offense but none of the defensive nuances that make Rushdown fighter work(like Burst and Shield). It's getting a KD and then guessing if they are prepared to be thrown or not. I will not buy SF6 if it has the lame ass Shimmy based fighting system of 5.
And for the love of god bring back chip. I hate how chip kills have become this demon.
@Zold i couldnt tell you. i dont play 3d fighters . i respect tekken players tho' (just isnt my cup of tea, thats all)
I wish The King Of Fighters XV has open world, new character designs, english voice actors, & new modes
Our wish has been granted...
Get ready for KOF XIII rollback
theyre pushing a lot of old school tournaments too(ff2s, gmotw). theyre testing the waters and trying to see which direction would be more lucrative going forward (casual kiddy stuff or hardcore)
Agree wholeheartedly
The main reason i got this is honestly the DJ station feature to enjoy some old tracks .
The combos system isn’t that great and honestly disappointing , i want those drive cancels that link specials together , HD mode that divided skill in the playerbase .
and that True trial mode that felt so great to finish
Facts
Was just watching your xiii trial guide. Nice
the days of difficult fighting games are over. well said, we need more content creators not cucking out.
No!! We need more cuq-out people
Btw,KOF 02um tutorials would be great,it would be nice if someone could explain how to max mode run more consistently since most people just breeze thru it
I’ve really been enjoying KOF XV, I think it’s one of the better fighting games I’ve played, but I respect your opinion, and I hope you get the game you’re looking for very soon. Love the accent by the way
And I respect YOURS. and I'm glad you're enjoying it
I really dig the legacy characters getting added + most of the base roster. That auto-combo mashing weak punch really needs to go. There should be an option to shut it off, at least. Other than that, it's much better than SF5, for me. Capcom dislikes their old fans alot worse than SNK. When was the last Dark Stalkers entry? Last 2 seasons of SF5 dlc was too weeby & gay.... No Sodom (ha ha), Rolento, Adon, Gouken, Abel.... we got Poison, Rose, Akira, Kage, Dan 👎. Only one super but 2 V-triggers was a strange choice.
I don’t hear you talking about the actual scrub stuff but you seem to only talk about combos. I mean which is fine but fighting games take a lot more than combos to win like footsies, positioning, knowing your character, knowing frame data, matchups and a lot more.
thats a given (and its been there since the very first fighting game ever released). footsies, spacing, frame data are nothing but a means to an end (the "end" being "getting in"). you take timing and complexity of execution out of the equation and you remove the stakes! which is what keeps the adrenaline pumping! whats my motivation for "getting in" if once i get in i will just do the same, brain dead, autopilot combo that took 2 minutes to master, does 700 damage and gives zero satisfaction?(not to mention anyone who just started playing fighting games a week ago can do the same combo. so there goes my individualism ,pride, motivation and showmanship...) its all about the risk/reward dynamic. "footsies, positioning, knowing your character, knowing frame data, matchups" alone is what i been doing up till the alpha1 and kof98 days...i dont need a slower,looser,easy mode version of barebones concepts like that 25 years later in 2022. been there/DONE THAT!
@@ShortFuseFighting um ok I understand so you want hard to execute combos because you get your fix off of that.
@@devinnelson5371 no, i want "hard to execute combos" and "timing based links" because thats what kof and sf have been gradually evolving toward over the course of 25 years! (and we have been evolving with it)until one day they decided to devolve backwards! i signed up to play CHESS! you wanna play checkers? go play the 100s of other fighting games that offer checkers , and everybody wins, and we are all happy.(instead of turning chess into checkers). do you see my point? or do i have to keep explaining why "a video game company selling out their principles and fans of 30 years in order to get away with putting as little effort as possible into their work and selling it to a bunch of clueless kids who dont know any better" is bad? i dont know how old you are but in MY generation there was nothing worse than a sellout! jesus christ, rappers used to get shot in 94 for wearing a polo shirt!!! and now theyre walking around in literal skirts and dancing with katy perry in candy land with cgi gummy bears and nobody bats an eye! you celebrate sellouts now, so why do i bother wasting my breath ! you won! happy? you had 99% of the market giving you exactly what you wanted. and now you have 100%! congratulations!
@@ShortFuseFighting I’m 16.
@@ShortFuseFighting You lowkey funny af
Dude sound like a 30 year old New Yorker from the 70s
> these people are selfish
*whole video is basically just crying over the game not being KOF13 and how "true fans" are getting screwed over*
huh
if you think KOFXV is simplified jesus wonder how you feel about BBTAG
did you even WATCH the video?
@@ShortFuseFighting The full video actually, you relentlessly compared it to 13 and how 13 looks better and plays better, as much as i actually agree with you its incredibly unfair since SNK literally nearly went bankrupt after 13 and comparing a game with sprites to models is already messy. Im just saying, you call others selfish but have the "im an older player and i deserve x y z" mentality which is quite literally riddled in selfishness and entitlement lol, if the game was a heaping shit storm id understand that mentality but this goes beyond "i dont like the game" and into "im going to bitch and moan its not this game for 13 minutes". The game isnt even over simplified, the combos are actually MORE interesting and varied than games like 98, auto combos arent even that good either and arent encouraged since on block its literally death. You go HEAVY on casual audience and try to blame them for what "happened" simply because you just didnt like the game.
Also i find it fucking hilarious you played the game for 10 hours yet claimed to have scoured the game for depth and couldnt find it, obviously you wont find depth when youre practically day 1 into the game
@@freefromdesire9 I been doing this for 27 years now!I dismantled entire engines from top to bottom and discovered some of the most obscure, counterintuitive and convoluted combos, glitches and exploits imaginable. I could tell the game had zero depth after 2 minutes (the other 10 hours were just a courtesy out of fairness)...you clearly managed to both "miss my point entirely" as well as "make my point for me"... TWO franchises!!!! That's ALL we were asking for.... TWO Games to remain hard,unapologetically technical, complex and precise.... OUT OF 100s and 100s! But nope... Has to be ALL casual ALL the time(no exception allowed). 50% of the community simply does not deserve to get 2 games. Not enough to have 100s of easy mode games to choose from (if that's your thing)... HAVE to take THE ONLY TWO NON EASY MODE GAMES WE HAD and make them easy mode too... Because... FAIRNESS!!! snk could have been a a legend this year and had THE ONLY hardcore game on the market this Gen. And every hardcore player would have played it exclusively.(but they didn't have the balls to do that... Ironically) Instead they are now in a piss context with the upcoming sf6 (which they will Lose BIG TIME). Enjoy your empty shell of a game! Lol I remember how shills like you came at me on day one of strive beta (now strive being a brain dead joke is common knowledge and the biggest meme in the fgc). Same when I ragged on xiv from even before the first trailer came out. Look at the prevailing opinion now! I could list a 100 other occurrences ... Time always ends up proving me right against those with zero foresight... So yeah, I don't like xv cause it's not xiii (aka the gold standard of modern fighting games). You got a problem with that? lol how DARE I demand a 2022 game to be up to the standards (I don't mean visually btw) of a game from 12 years ago??? What a loon eh? That's crazy talk... Strap me in a straitjacket immediately! lol I feel like Oliver Twist asking for more soup (and you degenerates still somehow find it "unreasonable")
@@ShortFuseFighting i boiled down your point into shorter shit, maybe bad on my point but lets not act like your point was anything really deep in the first place, to be honest you enjoy what you enjoy and i enjoy what i enjoy, KOFXV isnt the hardest fighter in existence but its a damn fun one and is certainly not a degrade from KOF and what KOF stood for. I do not know what you expected either of course SNK are going to try to appeal to casuals if it worked so well for strive BUT what i think youre missing is XV actually did it correctly without stripping XV of what made its predecessors so good. I find it fucking hilarious youre saying SF6 is going to kill XV or something even though we have seen 0 gameplay 0 ANYTHING other than the teaser. Its also funny how you call me a shill, i play KOF and its my main series so frankly, fuck off. I dont like strive either infact i hate most of strive and dropped the game when i realised how bored i was. If your standard is KOF13 you are going to wait YEARS for anything close lol. SNK literally revamped the system like they always do for this saga and now max mode is different, drive meter and EX moves arent too different from eachother sure but youre blatantly ignoring what makes EX moves so good. They made max mode in XV feel purposeful which in other KOF barring 02UM and 13.
Ill for sure enjoy XV its a game i fuck with whilst i can also dabble more w 98UMFE/02UM. Is what it is i just found your blatant hypocrisy fucking hilarious LOL
@@freefromdesire9 oh wow,you hate and have dropped strive because you were "bored" because its a stripped down version of ITS PREDECESSOR? boy, that sounds AN AWFUL LOT like what i just said about xv, doesnt it?talk about HYPOCRISY. and yes MY POINT was deep! cause its not just about fighting games...look around you! donald friggin trump was president of the united states! qanon was a thing!!!! barely intelligible morons mumbling 20 words a minute into a microphone are best selling musical artists! keeping up with the kardashians is the hottest show on tv and jake paul is the biggest youtuber on the planet! EVERYTHING is getting dumbed down and oversimplified into oblivion! and it happened gradually...little by little! one principle forwent here, some pride let go there, today is all links in kofxv are 3 frame, tomorrow is gonna be "all links are chains". and then f+LP is gonna serve as a special...and then universal block by holding backward without switching stances. i drew MY line 10 years ago (when there was still a chance to do something about it) you drew YOURS at strive! if you listened to me when sf5 came out THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO "STRIVE" FOR YOU TO DROP! just like youre not listening to me NOW! see you next gen when every fighting game is gonna be snk heroines!
Fun game that gets stale fast. Quickmode activation into 80% damage with no execution requirements has made anchor rounds play out the same. Players all using the same strategies. Game will be a ghost town online in the coming months. Casual players/casual gameplay = easy come, easy go.
The sad part is people are right about this game. It's one of the better fighters of this generation.
@Zold Tekken's current problem is movement, which was nerfed forcing players into 50/50 situations more often.
Back dash especially, one launcher combo may lead to wall carry, the player needs to guess oki (which isn't as bad as older Tekkens), but with your back against the wall it could lead to death.
As two combos is almost enough to take the round. Tekken is still a heavy knowledge check game which prevents it from being casual trash. As it can sometimes feel almost like a full time job to play at high level.
If you haven't played or seen a character for 2 weeks to 3 weeks, and are of similar skill that's all it takes for a player to beat the other. Tekken was never really about execution difficulty outside of KBD, and character specific things like Taunt upper, or EWGF, or specialty movement like Nina.
I remember disagreeing with your previous video but after playing 15, it feels better than 14 and that's where the positives end lol. I think SNK just doesn't understand that KoF will never appeal to the mainstream, so there's no point in removing what veterans enjoyed to appeal to newcomers who still get filtered by some of the super inputs. If someone enjoys this I dont mind and I still play it but I'm waiting for kof 13 rollback and I wont care about any future fighting games. DNF duel looks fucking boring and that game is considered hype by the FGC
Anime is hype to these nimrods.
@@ArcticKomodo You do know most fighting games have an anime esthetic.
Yeah and why is that a problem just because you don't like DNF duel doesn't mean everyone has bad taste it just means it's just not for you.
While I do see your point and agree to some extent, I, as an Ash main, gotta ask.
Do you really miss his old Sans-Culottes combos? Do you reeeaaaaalllyyy miss them?
Huh? That's THE BEST part
@@ShortFuseFighting Yes. Head empty, only Ash
Great Channel and videos
my issue with SNK since KOFXIII
Was every combo (and mixups) were tailor-made you rarely can come up with new combo routes or mixups
KOFXIII still feels incomplete for me as its missing many moves and 70% of characters are never seen in serious matches
I have been playing KOF02UM for the past 11 years
every other fighting game got boring so quick
however KOFXV is on the right track to be good game after the recent balance patches
still everything is tailor-made but the game is intense and requires great refluxes since punishable attacks are so few
maybe you shall give it another try as it gets better in 2023 (if kofxv is not dead by then lol)
What’s the problem with fighting games becoming more simplified
let me ask you...is there something in YOUR life that you are truly passionate about? and you have invested 27 years of blood sweat and tears into honing that particular skill? something you are proud of? something that gives you a sense of well earned and deserved satisfaction? do you play the piano? draw? play baseball? rock climbing? or any other thing? dealers choice...now imagine being forced to regress back to playing twinkle twinkle little star, drawing basic stick figures, swinging a bat at a ball sitting on a peewee pedestal or climbing a jungle gym intended for children. all the finger dexterity and speed, the spatial awareness of perspective light and shadow, the strength precision and physical fitness...all meaningless...all useless now! EVERYTHING worth doing in life is hard! we dont go around changing sports, art etc just so everybody can feel like they can do it! you wanna do it, put some effort into it! what the hell is so wrong with THAT? this isnt a controversial view. its only logical...you cant do something? well, you can either keep trying until you learn or go do something else that doesnt require effort...not CHANGE THE WHOLE ENTIRE INDUSTRY IN ORDER FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO AVOID DOING THE WORK! and thats whats wrong with fighting games becoming more simplified (especially you already have 100s of simplified fighting games out there...you REALLY couldnt leave us 2????is that SO unreasonable?)
@@ShortFuseFighting OK you see this crap right here dude it's a video game stop taking this so seriously and just learn to have fun. Not everything needs to be a challenge this is why I don't know if I agree on this review like you seriously can't find anything good about it, just because they made it more simple man that's some bull crap
@@kingj9664 the fun IS THE CHALLENGE.
I agree with what you said in your video . And i love your mafia like voice...so damn cool lol. You just got yourself a new sub. Loving your rants because most of them are truth.
Thank you
That's your opinion tho and sadly you and all those that agree with you are a small part of this community, that isn't enough to keep this genre alive. FG's aren't just about complex combo's, poking is often most of your damage so complexity isn't all that, FG's are also about finding solutions to situations and conditioning/figuring out your opponent, it's a puzzle in a way. Puzzles take time and dedication but they aren't necessarily complexe or hard.
Tbh has we grow older, responsibilities stack up (family, work, etc) and I speak mostly for myself, I don't necessarily have has much time to put in "dedication, time, patience, will for complexe fighter's" but I still enjoy them and a bit of loose isn't bad imo.
Companies wanna survive so they evolve with the player base and the newer generations don't like to struggle or put in has much work because it's so easy to share information now, and they are used to getting all the info from the start and they expect to be good from the start otherwise they lose interest. They see fg's has what they are "games" and thus they don't see the point of struggling for somethings that is supposed to give them enjoyment or a shot of dopamine.
I roam the discords and XV is still considered a hard fighter, imagine. I don't mind the toned down difficulty if it means more ppl get to play and enjoy the game, without putting in crazy amount of time.
I started with 03, XI and XIII are personal favorites, i think XV is in a good in-between but like I said some think it's still hard and others the opposite, you can't make everyone happy.
sorry bro...but thats corporate shill mentality. its that defeatist -"shrug/ehh what can you do?" attitude that normalized things like "patrons being deputized into paying servants wages by tipping them while the employer gets to pay them peanuts".and if you dont tip they look at you like YOURE the A$$HOLE...so the "patricians" not only win again, but effectively weaponize your own fellow peasants against you (and their own best self interest). i dont play that SHlT, and i never will! we live in a world where i cant even use "no-no words" in MY OWN comment, in MY OWN comment section, on MY OWN video (without getting shadowbanned into oblivion). we have crossed the line into idiocracy and theres no going back! im not gonna be doing the "if you cant beat them, join them"...i would die for my principles (whether its fighting games OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD. MY principles havent changed since the early 90s and they never will...thats why theyre PRINCIPLES! ). you dont have time to put the work in? perfectly understandable...go play one of the HUNDREDS of other fighting games on the market designed ESPECIALLY for that...
I wish The King Of Fighters XV has unreal engine 5, open world, character creation, arcade mode, survival mode, english voices, 16 new characters, story trailer, customization, supported languages, japanese announcer, female announcer, new modes, interactions, and story mode chapters
I wish The King Of Fighters XV was announced as a first trailer at State Of Play 2022
I wish The King Of Fighters XV was released in Late 2023, or Early 2024
7:30 thats a hard to swallow pill quote.
10:18 what is the first game before snk heroine? And also, does this mean that Under Night and Blazblue remained intact in terms of technicalities?
the game before heroines was kof14. blazblue cross tag battle wasnt hardcore but its ok cause its a spin off.
I agree with all you said but it still has more depth than Strive.
KoF15 may be dead but I still hope that you will upload more KOF13 tutorial
I love kof 98 its my fave but this feels easier and alot more floaty like you said. I was hoping for something like 13. At this point if they updated 2002um to look like 13 id be playing that alot more.
let me make this clear. i absolutely LOVE 98' (in fact its one of the best fighters of all time) ...FOR ITS TIME! now we evolved from that. when i wanna play 98(and i DO...often) i GO PLAY 98!(i dont need a 2022 game to play like a lame easy mode, training wheels version of 98)
@@ShortFuseFighting i agree. But not only are games getting easier they are coming out incomplete too(maybe not fighting games) but i havnt been able to pick up anything new without it being easy and not complete for another 8 months to year. Love your content and cant wait to see what you put out.
@@ShortFuseFighting I have been telling People on Steam that this game is just 98 and 2002um with a new Bar Gimmick. It's the same strings for most legacy characters. My issue with KOF XV is it doesn't seem to Evolve the gameplay that much. If you knew how to play Iori in 98 you know how to play him in this version. Say what you will about SF but Ken and Ryu are different in each version and Capcom is perfectly fine with them sucking if they suck. What I want from KOF are fundamental changes. Basically, a KOF where it feels like we are all learning. That's what SF does well. You can take your past knowledge of Character motions with you but that's typically it(sometimes they will even change those).
I mean I still genuinely enjoy the game. But that's just me.
And I'm genuinely happy for you and I hope you have fun. I have enjoyed fighting games far more simplistic than xv (our main gripe is that this is all there is available now. No variety in the offerings. Nothing to really sink our teeth in. Remember, for some of us a big event like a main entry kof game is supposed to be relevant and last us for a decade). Xv will fizzle out in a few months....
@Short Fuse Well I can't fully agree with that personally. I doubt it will fizzle out in a few months but to each their own. Not trying to change your mind or anything. I can only speak for myself and no one else.
Thankgod someone came forward and truly exposed this game for what it actually is.
Refunded immediatly.
By which you mean you found someone that agrees with your opinion
@@kingj9664 Go play your easy straight forward game and have fun
@@SalimOfShadow Was that's supposed to be some kind of insult because if it was that's pretty weak dude.
@@kingj9664 No need to insult,i am more than 12...I mean that, genuinely
@@SalimOfShadow If you say so kid
With simplicity comes complexity
You ever play tic tac toe? With simplicity comes mindlessness.
hes back.and not holding back lol but yup thats just this generation of fighting games. sex appeal and making them easy and annoying as possible. its all about the money. i will say i have the game. its fun for now but i kno a month later its going to be a terrible annoying kof game. its why i stop playing fighters much and focus on other games now and days
Wasn't sex appeal always a part of fighting games in some way
Amen
Kof 13 gettin rollback on ps4 and switch if you haven't checked congrats
(No steam so i can get fucked 😅)
The only fighting games i play till this day is kof 98 , 2002 and 2002 um. Sf2 turbo and 3rd strike. Other modern fighting games just dont appeal to me. I feel that the fighting games nowadays lost its appeal and becoming lustre.
I gave XV so many chances and holy hell, I cannot for the life of me vibe with it. Outside of the terrible matchmaking & netcode is a game where literally nothing feels right at all. Stiff movements, crappy buffers, and an extremely bipolar combo system. People who are saying that this is the smoothest and the best balanced KOF in history are nothing short of DELUSIONAL. On God. It blows my fucking mind that this game gets so much worship when it's just an inferior KOF 98/02um... standards for fighting games are nonexistent at this point.
I literally broke one of my physical games, because I tried again. Sometimes I just need to learn to realize that people will hype up and play anything no matter how shit it is when it comes to AAA gaming. Call of Duty is still a hyper popular franchise, despite the games being garbage for years.
@@HiyaImGeo we need to accept when something is dead and gone. took me 10 years of hope and disappointment until i finally gave up. didnt even watch the new trailer for garou (cause i already know without shadow of the doubt what its gonna be)
You're right
I'm no longer friends with modern fighting games .
Fightcade 2 is my new best friend
I've woken
thats real nice to hear!
I blame the influencers a little bit too. They do have some form of power to say something but they never do. If they actually said what they really felt without worry of there button line. im sure many of there followers would simply follow but instead no they brown nose and if you say anything about that said easy mode game you're a boomer.
i wouldnt say a little...its A LOT! and none of them actually enjoy these games (i know that for a fact). every big youtuber that was into fighting games at least pre 09 was FORCING himself to play sf5. they just go where the money is.
truth =/= youtube money. i guarantee you if maximilianguy or whatever started calling it easy mode garbage you'd have a bunch of 10 year old kids parroting the same thing and they would all be "all about dat hardcore yo!".
@@ShortFuseFighting yea you're right. They seriously just dick ride everything
@@noway1910 You guys aren't special just because you don't like anything mainstream just I let you know
@@ShortFuseFighting How hard is it to remember the name Maximilian dood, If Max did complain about some of these easy modes and games he would probably do it in a way people would understand and agree with him stop looking in the bad of people just because they are popular. Once you can't really say all these big name gamers Hate some of these games just because you do.
@@kingj9664 Cool
I fucking love you, brother.
If gabagool could talk, it would sound like you. When you speak, I can smell the cannoli in your breath. You sound like you live in the back of some restaurant called Tony's Pizzeria and your parents are named Luigi and Valentina.
Please never stop making content.
Kof 16 will suck when they go back to 3D and use similar mechanics from doa I know the day is near I hated kof impact series because it not like the classic kof games I grew up with
I know I am late but while I can honestly say I enjoy some of these more modern games, I cannot deny the truth in these statements. Some of which I have caught myself echoing about SFV over the years of playing it. But yeah it is a shame you cannot find enjoyment in these. At least we still have the old school jams.
blazblue central fiction got rollback and to me that was basically the only relevant fighting game news of the year.
KOF15 already dead on PS4.
Surprise, surprise....
@@ShortFuseFighting facts
Mobile game garbage. Game dies after the summer.
Subbed! just played kof15 and it was so braindead compared to kof 13
Yeah, it's pure garbage. A fighting game for 3 year Olds. Absolutely ridiculous
I agree in all but KOF and SNK were dying bro. Instead CAPCOM and sf5 were thriving. SNK drop their best with XIII and we failed them. The game didn't sell well so they play dirty now and I don't blame them I don't want SNK to die. Stay alive to fight another day...
i'd rather see them bow out gracefully and leave behind a respect worthy legacy...then to be reduced to THIS! (and limp on in disgrace...like a castrated eunuch). you either die a legend or you live long enough to become a JOKE
To be fair, KOF XV is better than KOF XIV.
"to be fair"...yes it IS, but....thats not saying much. we are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find a semblance of a redeeming quality (and it shouldnt be like that)
KOF was never my strong suit as far as fighting games go but I refuse to believe that KOF XV is the braindead easy game you make it out to be.
I'm just saying. I will have a hard time landing combos in this game just like its predecessors. I played KOF 94 through XI on emulators back in the day but not online just arcade mode.
if you did combos in 94 through xi you will not drop a single combo in this...believe me, its not gonna happen. if neo geo/atomis era KOFs are your only frame of reference, this will blow your mind. you dont jump/hit with heavy on the way down on one of the last frames possible/link into a string of lights on the ground using TIMING/and quickly cancel into special here. ... you just press the buttons whenever you feel like it and everything will link regardless . its so loose that its basically "chains".even the corner juggles require no timing .in real kof games, each juggle had like 3-5 different timings/heights when you could catch the opponent and would give different outcomes and proprieties to the juggle and what you could or couldnt subsequently do with it. a lot of the juggles were practically one frame links if you wanted to continue the hardest combo. theres none of that here. (and yes, kof 13 was much looser with the normal links than the predecessors...but it more than made up for it in other departments. this on the other hand strips away ALL technical difficulty and gives nothing back. like a swarm of locusts devouring everything of substance in their path, leaving only bare bones behind as they pass)