Full interview: Boris Johnson on Brexit, immigration and UK labour shortages

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  • Political Editor Gary Gibbon talks to Prime Minister Boris Johnson and asks him about his words during the 2016 Brexit referendum, immigration and labour shortages currently affecting the UK.
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  • @miras2222
    @miras2222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +511

    his plan is always the same: ignore problems until they become to obvious to ignore, then offer twisted explanation out from parallel reality of manufactured delusion, combined with 3 words empty slogan and thumbs up.

    • @lindaobasohan414
      @lindaobasohan414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @pamg4174
      @pamg4174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
      Facts 💯

    • @dlilwon
      @dlilwon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Don’t forget the clapping 👏🏾

    • @HS-fm9kv
      @HS-fm9kv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      That's 1/2 the equation. The other half of the equation is the idiots that still believe him and his government

    • @patmcgee3061
      @patmcgee3061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perfect description from you, Mira S

  • @tonyb9735
    @tonyb9735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    Seriously, what's the point in talking with somebody you know is just going to lie in your face? More importantly how can anybody vote for somebody they know is just going to lie in their face?

    • @IavenderSyndrome
      @IavenderSyndrome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It doesn't even matter who we vote in at this point. They all just lie in our face! The people need to take back their power and take back their freedom.

    • @pierre976
      @pierre976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I think it’s actually useful to watch a liar. Boris is pathetic. The journalist doesn’t believe a word of what Boris is saying and it shows. And we see that Boris doesn’t believe a word of what he is saying. Again, he is pathetic. And he is toast. And he knows it.

    • @jamieaxbox
      @jamieaxbox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Just shows you what a mess the labour party is... all these tory lies and nobody still trusts labour

    • @englishsteve1465
      @englishsteve1465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Because they think the "Leopards eating peoples faces Party" isn't going to eat THEIR face.

    • @cbs577
      @cbs577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@IavenderSyndrome oh yea? And how do they do that?

  • @dellhell8842
    @dellhell8842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +355

    As someone who isn't British I find it both incredible and sad that this guy has got away with trolling his whole country his whole life.

    • @afinecity1830
      @afinecity1830 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't get all your news from Channel 4 then. It is a bit like thinking Twitter reflects majority opinion.

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@afinecity1830 c4 news is about the most impartial news around.

    • @duckythegamer7263
      @duckythegamer7263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      “We do a little trolling, it’s called we do a little trolling”
      British Version
      “We partake in a minuscule amount of tomfoolery “

    • @leanne8493
      @leanne8493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He puts the UK people last, everyone else first.

    • @tombowen6430
      @tombowen6430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fishandchips9033 they voted for the t*sser because the alternatives were even f@cking worse. That’s the state of Brit politics.

  • @MrSzwarz
    @MrSzwarz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    Bogio is talking to himself, he is NOT interested in any conversation with anybody. Plan?! What plan? Aaaa! Plan! Fantastic Plan! Bogiostic! People voted for change, and have changed... For much worse. Great change!

    • @fuckfannyfiddlefart
      @fuckfannyfiddlefart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Boris is a sociopath
      The killer clown
      #BorisViralManslaughter

    • @englishsteve1465
      @englishsteve1465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fuckfannyfiddlefart "Duping delight" that's the clinical name for those quick little grins.

    • @patmcgee3061
      @patmcgee3061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He forgot to mention the vaccine.

    • @samhartford8388
      @samhartford8388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@englishsteve1465 I still consider it a part of his sociopathy.

    • @manuelromeroarcos1639
      @manuelromeroarcos1639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fuckfannyfiddlefart boris solo?

  • @grantmck9659
    @grantmck9659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Gas lighting in full effect. At least the interviewer isn't letting Johnson shout him down with his alternative facts and buzz word redirects. A few more interviews like this would give a clearer picture of who is running the country and how capable he actually is.

    • @FuriousImp
      @FuriousImp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You misspelled the word incapable.

    • @jintarokensei3308
      @jintarokensei3308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dunno but this guy be stuttering like an engine with a broken clutch

    • @dfcvda
      @dfcvda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ed i like his version better

  • @davidbewick2978
    @davidbewick2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Even when Boris is lying, he believes his telling the truth !!

    • @nickhamil8980
      @nickhamil8980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm afraid Boris has no clue what the truth is, he just says what he thinks you want to hear.
      As long as what he's saying puts him in a good light that is ....

    • @albertzingue
      @albertzingue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Is there anyone who actually still believe anything Bojo says?

    • @englishsteve1465
      @englishsteve1465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think he's just very good at it. "World Beating" you might say. Now, if you asked me was he proud of his deceptions, I'd say definitely, that's what the sly little grins are about. yuk.

    • @patmcgee3061
      @patmcgee3061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even the lies he tells are not true.

    • @davidbewick2978
      @davidbewick2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As I said before even when he is lying he believes he is telling the truth!!

  • @minimax9452
    @minimax9452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    „ fantastic logistics“ but no fuel and empty shelves. the man you voted should be in a asylum!

    • @viper_fan
      @viper_fan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be fair: no sane person would want to be PM right now.

    • @Englishman_and_mountains
      @Englishman_and_mountains 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I went in my local supermarket yesterday and the shelves were full which they hadn't been for a week so i asked the manager if they'd just got an order in, he replied "panic buying morons"
      The problems aren't labour shortage it's panic buying and labour shortages.
      Also there's 40,000 people awaiting licenses and only 17,000 EU drivers left. The backlog was caused by the DVLA going on strike but no one is reporting this on our national TV news channels.

    • @SimonPeters
      @SimonPeters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or even an ‘asylum’.

    • @minimax9452
      @minimax9452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SimonPeters In German "(Irren)Anstalt" - you can speak German?

    • @hugogreen4916
      @hugogreen4916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is. And if your are on mainland uk , so are you.
      You and he are now on the other side of the wall

  • @russelledwards001
    @russelledwards001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    So they’ve been in power 10 years done nothing to support hgv driver conditions. And now they want to invest. Jokers.

    • @digantdalal
      @digantdalal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Until 2020, It was EU’s fault, and then came global pandemic with lockdowns. Don’t you just get it? 😂😂

    • @johnhayes1635
      @johnhayes1635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Marlboro Light yeah employment and full time employment is a massive difference. There an actual joke im glad everyone is seeing there true colours now

  • @thatguysteely
    @thatguysteely 2 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    When Boris talks he always looks like he's about to start laughing, akin to someone telling a joke - maybe he's a comedian and its all an act, he has certainly made a joke of the UK

    • @classicartfoundation639
      @classicartfoundation639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dupers delight

    • @patmcgee3061
      @patmcgee3061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      People may have been laughing when they voted this comedian into power but I bet they’re not laughing now.

    • @ageoflove1980
      @ageoflove1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its a trick, by doing that he lets the listener "in on it" making them complicit so he can gets away with the lies. Almost like you smile to a small child when you are secretly getting a cookie just before dinner.

    • @manuelromeroarcos1639
      @manuelromeroarcos1639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patmcgee3061 huuumoooo para los británicos jajajajajajaha

    • @rockj5093
      @rockj5093 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neil, the English like comedians, now they've got one as PM

  • @rossleeson8626
    @rossleeson8626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Boris Johnson actually sat down for a discussion with Channel 4 lol Was not expecting that.

    • @genesis1765
      @genesis1765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He did in the US also a few weeks ago but his press secretary told c4 what to ask him Gary even said it on tv.

    • @bobcoffee11
      @bobcoffee11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ye I'm very surprised too

    • @patmcgee3061
      @patmcgee3061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What interview, he was allowed to rant from start to finish.

  • @debugstore
    @debugstore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Garry is one of very few journalists taking this incompetent government to task. Well done Garry!

    • @samhartford8388
      @samhartford8388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Indeed, I think he understood at one point that the PM had no clue. BoJo's fantasy economics are baffling to anybody with a clue. He's wrecking the country.

    • @cjstubejackofalltrade1551
      @cjstubejackofalltrade1551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Gary was the PM he would do exactly the same thing and Borris would ask him for better answers😂

    • @debugstore
      @debugstore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cjstubejackofalltrade1551 There are an awful lot of assumptions there

    • @cjstubejackofalltrade1551
      @cjstubejackofalltrade1551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@debugstore can you name one honest perfect politician in the world? 😂

    • @samhartford8388
      @samhartford8388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cjstubejackofalltrade1551 I think we don't need to search for a perfect politician, just one whose personality disorder would not be as debilitating would do.

  • @bristolfashion4421
    @bristolfashion4421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    How *on earth* can the geezer sit there and "explain" the lack of HGV drivers as being due to low pay and de-skilling, when the Conservatives have presided over exactly those sort of consequences from their own policies for *decades* !! (For goodness sake, no-one get near him with a hat-pin - he'll explode in a great big puff of hot air & waffle...)

    • @user-sf7kl9uh7k
      @user-sf7kl9uh7k 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Boris Johnson is one of the products of Clown Corbyn's leadership.

  • @davidfryer6509
    @davidfryer6509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Anyone would have thought that Boris and his chums had not been in power for the last ten years or so.

    • @siversurfer3541
      @siversurfer3541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      David Fryer
      The government can always blame Labour.
      Then of course as always, blame the EU.

    • @davidfryer6509
      @davidfryer6509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@siversurfer3541 we see how much responsibility the prime minister takes for his own children. what else can we expect

    • @siversurfer3541
      @siversurfer3541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidfryer6509
      True David.

    • @smellslikethinice1107
      @smellslikethinice1107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doris has set it up in Manchester, private capitalism (mates) and bankers will continue to make huge profits, low taxes.

    • @jasonarnold7897
      @jasonarnold7897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      only because labour are rubbish and theres no altermative

  • @luismiguelcorreia971
    @luismiguelcorreia971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Brilliant work from Gary Gibbon! Finally someones tells him to his face, he never had any plans! Boris has no clue

    • @PurityVendetta
      @PurityVendetta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh, he has a plan, just not the one he fed to the willfully thick reactionary gammon and pensioners who happily swallowed his xenophobic, bigoted and jingoistic dog whistles.
      His orders are to reduce the UK to a Singapore by the Thames tax free free for all his dodgy friends. The thick pawns are just a means to an end. Follow the money.

    • @manuelromeroarcos1639
      @manuelromeroarcos1639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PurityVendetta huuumoooo para los británicos jajajajajajaha

  • @thedirtyfecker
    @thedirtyfecker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    He clearly just wings it by the seam of his pants. He has no idea what he is doing from day to day. Waffle, waffle, waffle. Lies, lies, lies.

    • @safeenachoud1903
      @safeenachoud1903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏿‍♂️

    • @geraldinetobin3878
      @geraldinetobin3878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      8 in

    • @briumphbimbles
      @briumphbimbles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What did he lie about specifically?

    • @thedirtyfecker
      @thedirtyfecker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@briumphbimbles His lips moved. That's how you can tell.

    • @thedirtyfecker
      @thedirtyfecker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@briumphbimbles From the very first sentences of the interview he starts lying and it just builds from there. He is interfacing with business? All the way up to the 'Oven Ready Deal' he left business in the dark with how they were supposed to prepare for Brexit. Now the current Tory stance is it is their own fault for not being ready. He is someone who has "always championed immigration"? This is a joke right? He says that with a straight face? He has barely opened his gob and already told two lies already. The rest is more of the same... The UK is suffering from the pandemic putting pressure of all kinds on the system? Why are all the crisies not being seen everywhere else? No petrol shortage here. No crops rotting in fields here. No vet shortages here. No empty shelves in supermarkets here. No pigs with nobody to slaughter them here. No CO2 shortage here. No HGV driver crisis here. No energy crisis here. No wave through border control here. No issues with import or export here. Just to name a few of the new crisies that seem to be emerging by the day. But of course, he tells you it is happening everywhere else and you still need me to explain this to you. To the rest of the World watching on, the UK has started looking like '1984'. It is almost too strange to believe. If it were a science fiction novel, the editors would advise you to tone it down as it is too unbelievable to be accepted by your audience. You need to take a step back and look at all of this objectively. None of this is going to end well for Britain.

  • @bigpants6121
    @bigpants6121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Johnson looks so out of his depth. What a buffoon he makes of himself trying to answer these questions. Last time Johnson's aides told GG to be quiet when interviewing him!

    • @jazzwebster9851
      @jazzwebster9851 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone who wanted to be PM but couldn't handle the job.

    • @Kelly_Kapowski
      @Kelly_Kapowski 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s not very bright he’s just cunning

    • @bigpants6121
      @bigpants6121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kelly_Kapowski That's one word I'd use for him!

  • @mydayis5
    @mydayis5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Boris seems to be blaming business for shortages. Surely he’s therefore arguing that capitalism doesn’t work!

    • @FuriousImp
      @FuriousImp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @angrykulla Oven-ready deal? Don't think so. The bendy bananas lies were objectively funny, this is ruining many people's lives. He used to shout people down when they were projecting all the issues we see now - he told them it was Project Fear, but back in reality - this was Project Reality, and not it's Project Here. He's a bumbling liar, cheating on his former wife whilst she was undergoing cancer treatment, and is now married to the woman he cheated on his former wife with. He's a despicable liar, a bumbling fool, and I can't think of one good reason you support him. Maybe it was your fear of foreigners that made you rally behind such a despicable populist? Well, the UK is now getting a crash course in what it means to throw out those people doing the hard work. Ask Tim Martin how his business is doing.

    • @mydayis5
      @mydayis5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FuriousImp ….and yet he’s still ahead in the polls. Populism works. It’s so tragic.

    • @FuriousImp
      @FuriousImp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mydayis5 Yes it's sad

    • @fishandchips9033
      @fishandchips9033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mydayis5 Due to the thick people with their brain missing.

    • @johannesnicolaas
      @johannesnicolaas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fishandchips9033 Maarten van Rossum, a famous Dutch history professor said: the average voter has the brain of a scrimp. Quite so...

  • @minimax9452
    @minimax9452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    no shortages in germany 🇩🇪👍

    • @paulies5407
      @paulies5407 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a lie because you're short of 60,000 HGV drivers.

    • @minimax9452
      @minimax9452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@paulies5407 no - yours found work here -thx a lot. 🙏 at least we have a brexit-dividend 😂

    • @domturnbull2399
      @domturnbull2399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@paulies5407 every country are short of drivers. None other has food shortages as a result.

    • @emm_arr
      @emm_arr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@domturnbull2399 Seager is a Russian state troll.

    • @fitzstv8506
      @fitzstv8506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No shortages in Ireland and no shortages in Northern Ireland either for that matter! I wonder why?.

  • @nicksimmons7234
    @nicksimmons7234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Sounds like nearly 12 years of a Tory government has been the problem.

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      they have been in power for 80 of the last 110 years but its never their fault things are shite

    • @jgtemperton
      @jgtemperton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @dylan murphy how can you be more Right Wing, than very Right Wing?

    • @Bob-uh6gf
      @Bob-uh6gf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @dylan murphy More right wing? Fascist?

    • @oneeyedgirl617
      @oneeyedgirl617 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mrs.Thatcher yeah, let’s get Brexiteer Dyson back from Singapore...

    • @oneeyedgirl617
      @oneeyedgirl617 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mrs.Thatcher what Dyson the brexiteer who moved his headquarters to Singapore. What Branson who was whining about Government bailouts during the pandemic and still finds the money to try to be an astronaut. Do you honestly believe they will change things for the better for ordinary folk, and not for themselves....

  • @SimonPeters
    @SimonPeters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Brilliant to see a well briefed interviewer doing his job. Stirling performance by Gary Gibbon and the usual response of rubbish and lies from Johnson.

    • @manuelromeroarcos1639
      @manuelromeroarcos1639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Huuumoooo para los británicos jajajajajajaha

    • @adamlee3772
      @adamlee3772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      C4 News are the only ones even threatening to hold the charlatans in charge to account.

    • @SimonPeters
      @SimonPeters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@adamlee3772 well I hope they keep it up. The country can’t cope with any more of the incompetence of this Cabinet of the Second-rate.

    • @adamlee3772
      @adamlee3772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @simon Peter’s I agree mate.

    • @smellslikethinice1107
      @smellslikethinice1107 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed

  • @marcusbjernerup7187
    @marcusbjernerup7187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    That this man is the PM of Great Britain still puzzles me. Guys - seriously - you can do so much better!

    • @DomFurlong
      @DomFurlong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Suggestions? I bet the residents of Uxbridge and South Ruislip thought that too but look at the opposition!

    • @marcusbjernerup7187
      @marcusbjernerup7187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@DomFurlong From over here - the continent - with the specifics of British party-politics aside, Keir Starmer, without any doubt whatsoever, comes across as the adult in the room. Looking for perfection? Might find it in outer space. We don't have perfection over here, that's for sure, but that's OK. Point being - and it is a very serious one - you can do so much better than Boris Johnson. I'll let you in on a little secret - outside of the UK (which I personally, and most of the people around me hold in very high regard (Brexit aside)) Boris Johnson is a populist joke. We shake our heads and can't quite believe it. That's it.

    • @DomFurlong
      @DomFurlong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@marcusbjernerup7187 Excellent point

    • @catherinemontgomery7130
      @catherinemontgomery7130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@marcusbjernerup7187 he is here as well

  • @lyxnick
    @lyxnick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Also, Gary's facial expressions are gold 🤣

  • @Curlytwins890
    @Curlytwins890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Such an amazing ability to deny the obvious facts😀

  • @stephanieking4444
    @stephanieking4444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Well done Gary Gibbon! Proper journalism is making a comeback. At long last. Journalistic complacency or apathy enabled vote leave.

    • @markgarwood8477
      @markgarwood8477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ditto that!

    • @shamanahaboolist
      @shamanahaboolist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gibbon isn't a proper journalist. He's just another stooge for the trans-national elite.

    • @geraldhewing2076
      @geraldhewing2076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@shamanahaboolist Do you believe that Johnson is one of those saving you from the"Elite?"

    • @shamanahaboolist
      @shamanahaboolist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geraldhewing2076 lol nope he is an elite. But I think he's an elite that wants people to like him and leave a "Churchill" like legacy and in order to do that he's having to come to terms with the fact he needs to correct serious long term problems left by neo-liberalism.
      He's a lying Bullingdon boy. But he's soft and has a sniff of humanity left in him unlike his peers.

    • @manuelromeroarcos1639
      @manuelromeroarcos1639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shamanahaboolist huuuumoooooo pasa los británicos jajajajajajaha

  • @gdwlaw5549
    @gdwlaw5549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    France, Germany better productivity and their still members of the EU!

  • @jonathanlee7384
    @jonathanlee7384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    There is NO plan. Period.

  • @carpog
    @carpog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    One of the two men in this interview has a good understanding of the mounting supply chain and workforce problems besetting the UK. The other just ruffles his blond hair and spouts out meaningless rhetoric.

  • @goodreputationtv4235
    @goodreputationtv4235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Great to see "Boris the Butcher" being pulled up on his lies

  • @user-tl4fi6oy8d
    @user-tl4fi6oy8d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Did you ever think the Tories would have to resort to "pay is too low!" and "working conditions are poor!" as a talking point/excuse for predicted Brexit fallout?

    • @lateknight4754
      @lateknight4754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @1996freddie haha, touché. But the NHS is getting an extra £350million a year though right?!.....

    • @lateknight4754
      @lateknight4754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@dellboy4375 I'll take cpt hindsight over this muppet in chief any day. At least every word out of his mouth isn't a lie.

    • @lorenzwiedemar1837
      @lorenzwiedemar1837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This (GB needs to improve wages + working conditions) is going to be the next unicorn the Tories will put in front of British public when the next elections are due.

    • @lateknight4754
      @lateknight4754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lorenzwiedemar1837 yup more brexit smoke screen. In the same way that its apparently the EU who are making the Northern Ireland protocol bad. Even though its exactly what they signed up for and they could have avoided it all together with regulatory alignment. But chose not to.

    • @clearlake3492
      @clearlake3492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dellboy4375 Thank god I left your rain-swept shores and crisis economy 12 years ago. I now have permanent residency in Malta. Brexit? You're very welcome to it.

  • @cgrady4255
    @cgrady4255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Wonderful interview. After being muzzled in the PR sessions during the Pandemic, chickens are coming home to roost. Brilliant watching the PM squirm.

  • @M0o
    @M0o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Out with this clown 🤡

  • @Spacey7
    @Spacey7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Who in their right mind would want to come in from Europe to benefit a non EU broken country!! Investment in skills takes time!!!

  • @pierre976
    @pierre976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Business confidence has dropped like a rock. Enough said.

  • @astralxing988
    @astralxing988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This is "Get brexit done , again "

  • @Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer
    @Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    To summarize: _I've always wanted rising wages and the only way i could come up with was by creating an unmitigated labour shortage._

    • @petertaylor1447
      @petertaylor1447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The labour shortage is a problem. I know, thinks BJ, I will say that this is a short term consequence of our planned strategy for upskilling in different sectors of the economy. (Its a lie, of course, but then people expect me to lie and I can't let them down).

    • @johnhayes1635
      @johnhayes1635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wage increases 🤣🤣 inflation 4.1 percent if u consider what wages where at before pandemic to now 4.4 percent actual increase difference 0.3 percent we are winning wahoo 🤣🤣.

    • @nickhamil8980
      @nickhamil8980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@petertaylor1447 you should go into politics, you have that natural gift !!

  • @larslarsen5414
    @larslarsen5414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No shortages in Denmark.

    • @larslarsen5414
      @larslarsen5414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Leroy Jenkins Alpha You are correct. One month ago, when I posted my comment, there where no shortages in Denmark. Now there are very minor shortages (printer ink is the only thing I have noticed...).

  • @d.o.m.e.n.i.c.o_d.e.n.t.i.c.e
    @d.o.m.e.n.i.c.o_d.e.n.t.i.c.e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    It is sad to hear Johnson saying that UK low productivity is caused by what was the EU immigration! I am glad to have left!!!

    • @g0801215
      @g0801215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      German productivity is much higher and they still rely on EU immigration.

    • @illegitiminoncarborundum1423
      @illegitiminoncarborundum1423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, it is; I cannot understand how anybody can buy this nonsense.
      The argument makes no sense - the productivity in Germany, France and Italy is better than in the UK, because the UK has (used ot have) all these German, French and Italian immigrants... Huh?

    • @martinvickers7349
      @martinvickers7349 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed
      An absolutely untrue LIE

    • @edwardbernthal160
      @edwardbernthal160 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are glad Domenico, why? has productivity increased in the UK now that you have left the EU or has it fallen. Are you now more productive than you were?

    • @d.o.m.e.n.i.c.o_d.e.n.t.i.c.e
      @d.o.m.e.n.i.c.o_d.e.n.t.i.c.e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@edwardbernthal160 I was referring to the fact that I am pleased for not being part of the system as it does not represent me.

  • @minimax9452
    @minimax9452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    a tory is fighting low wages - is he in the wrong party? he should apply as labour leader 😅

    • @KillkingTime
      @KillkingTime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Doris just lies and lies.. fighting low wages Haha!.. What he does is confuses the ignorant.

  • @philipberthiaume2314
    @philipberthiaume2314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    In Canada and the US, all of our petrol stations are open and functioning and our supermarkets are fully stocked. Make no mistake, if one quarter of all gas stations closed in the North America for a lack of supply, there would be an emergency declared and a lot of resources dedicated to fixing the issue, including an awful lot of accountability for those responsible. It is a crises, no where else is this happening at such a significant level.

    • @tfking10
      @tfking10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That energy crisis in Texas was/is terrible. A cacophony or errors, under-investment, neglect and free market ideology. Bodger is not the answer, free market ideology is not the answer. Asia will eat our lunch.

    • @philipberthiaume2314
      @philipberthiaume2314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tfking10 I agree with you, but it's not relevant to the point that the UK is trying to suggest that this is a global problem, that everyone is running out of gas and that there are empty supermarkets everywhere. It's simply not true. Brexit is devastating the UK economy right now and no one wants to reverse it.

    • @derekyuen4773
      @derekyuen4773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      …this aged well

    • @kilianhufgard1035
      @kilianhufgard1035 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derekyuen4773 indeed it did

  • @JRattheranch
    @JRattheranch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    They have had 10 years to remedy this situation! Nothing changed! Now they wasn't to increase pay dramatically which will cause massive inflation which they as a party have been against for the ten years! We'll be back in the 1970's at this rate, except one could survive on unemployment benefits then.

    • @algamaboba167
      @algamaboba167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It honestly looks like it's heading that way everyday!

    • @hans6500
      @hans6500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Tories would really like to take Britain back to Victorian times, but I’m afraid they won’t manage to draw the country further back than the 1970s indeed.

  • @stevenhoward3358
    @stevenhoward3358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    We need to vote for change... to get rid of this muppet. Well done GG, best interviewer on TV right now.

  • @jellybean8167
    @jellybean8167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Well done Channel 4, at last a REAL interview with the clown, all down without a safety net!

  • @seandonaghy2473
    @seandonaghy2473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    BoJo's greatest statement/quote: "ah, well, um, um, ah, I'm - I'm - I'm, uh, duh, da, da, ah, yes, well, um, ah, ah, yes, well . . . um"

    • @safeenachoud1903
      @safeenachoud1903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @crazyforcoffee5950
      @crazyforcoffee5950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well thing is uh, uh, uh, well, well, um, um, we defeated covid, uh, um, um, um, uh, ah, well, yes.

  • @d15ude
    @d15ude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You voted out of the EU in order to give this clown full control??? 🤔

  • @didierlemoine6771
    @didierlemoine6771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    £ down again, poor Britain becoming even poorer again and again !

  • @miabartini6056
    @miabartini6056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    🍿🍿🍿🍿🤣🤣🤣🤣 watching from EU!!!!

    • @MaximDL1410
      @MaximDL1410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👏😂👍😎

  • @PianoandKeysStudio
    @PianoandKeysStudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This morning, I watched Boris being interviewed by LBC - or at least they were trying to interview him. His strategy it seems was to bluster as long as possible, while frequently looking over his shoulder (possibly to check how much time was left) because the longer he draws out the answers, the fewer questions that can be asked and the less chance he's likely to be asked anything challenging.
    Pleased that didn't happen here.

    • @lindaobasohan414
      @lindaobasohan414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Totally agree even Beth Rigby of sky news during her interview had to say “ we need to move on, I have more questions”
      He’s ridiculous.

  • @edonist_ldn
    @edonist_ldn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    They did not make a plan.

  • @mrchainanimal3637
    @mrchainanimal3637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Best British comedy since Mr Bean! This country is entertaining for the whole world...

  • @tyrone5066
    @tyrone5066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Why has this guy still have a job 🤬

    • @Christinebanks11
      @Christinebanks11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you kidding me? Garry is on fire ! 😆

  • @Conservator.
    @Conservator. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It’s very obvious: he doesn’t have a plan, none whatsoever, to fix the short or medium time problems.
    And when I think of it, he doesn’t have a long term plan either, just long term wishful thinking.

  • @roton2005
    @roton2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My 2 years old nephew speaks same kind of English as boris

    • @suyona7578
      @suyona7578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi friend. I think I know you.

  • @matthewbloom276
    @matthewbloom276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    France and Germany ahead of us in terms of productivity. Both of them have unfettered access to labour, I’m starting to think this brexit thing wasn’t about economic factors at all….

    • @benghiskahn3673
      @benghiskahn3673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. Looks at Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands, Finland, Norway, all either in the EU, the SM or the CU and all with much higher productivity than the UK.

    • @davidshort6586
      @davidshort6586 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh it's economic alright, for some. Simply put, the British tax haven network. For me Brexit serves only one purpose, to protect that network for the British ruling class. The amount of wealth we are talking about is truly staggering. Check it out

  • @bigtastyforlife9367
    @bigtastyforlife9367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    psychopaths are classified as people with little or no conscience.

  • @sidonio123
    @sidonio123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Garry Gibbon one of the best out there

  • @patrickmccutcheon9361
    @patrickmccutcheon9361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Astounding that BJ refers to the Uk being left behind by France, Germany and Italy. Was Brexit not supposed to be about unleashing the UK, aka ‘global Britain’ from a sclerotic EU. Interesting contrast between rhetoric and reality.

  • @jeremiahpoole6526
    @jeremiahpoole6526 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Charlatan on so many levels. God help us.

  • @classicartfoundation639
    @classicartfoundation639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Basically he's alright Jack, sod the rest.

    • @steveosborne2297
      @steveosborne2297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m afraid that appears to apply to the entire cabinet

  • @theresenydahl9531
    @theresenydahl9531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The PM thought this was going to be a cosy get together and frankly - so did I😁 Well done, Channel 4✌
    The PM is suddenly a Socialdemocrat, says that the companies now has to pay higher wages - how do the Tory voter base feel about that?🙄

  • @lizadowning4389
    @lizadowning4389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    With, "fantastic", BoJo is using it in the alternative meaning: "imaginary".
    So he isn't really lying; we are just ignorant to his eloquence and brilliant mind. :)
    Basically we're too stupid to understand how "fantastic" things are going right now. :)

  • @ianholden7
    @ianholden7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Boris Johnson is Chancer in life pulled the wool over the eye's of the British people

    • @PurityVendetta
      @PurityVendetta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Although a lot of the willfully thick electorate wanted a shister like Johnson to pander to their xenophobia, racism, misogyny and jingoism with a bit of dog whistle bullshit... and it worked.

  • @jjtighe8628
    @jjtighe8628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any country that has a population that elects a leader like that deserves everything it gets and more

  • @stevebrown5430
    @stevebrown5430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Waffle, waffle and more waffle. The Office for National Statistics (Govt Dept) has stated that the average real weekly wage (after inflation) was £491 p.w. at the end of April 2021. At the end of July 2021 it was £488 p.w. The Tories are comparing wage figures now to when they were at their lowest in the middle of the pandemic. Increasing wages are suddenly very important. However, when the triple lock on pensions was taken away the Tories told us to ignore wage increases as these were artificially high due to the pandemic and furlough. Double standards run right through this government. All of the things he wants to fix are the result of 11 years of Tory government.

    • @felipelorenzo6757
      @felipelorenzo6757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What about the dodgy assertion of fastest of G7 recovery ........how low and dishonest can you go

  • @peterkevintaylor
    @peterkevintaylor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No issues in rest of Europe compared to UK. No tax hikes. No food or fuel problems. Just blame covid even it's not all covid.

  • @davidslattery6750
    @davidslattery6750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I have to admire boris in one way for showing up yet again to be interviewed by gary gibbon, boris always comes away looking like a cretin who has little to no understanding of his job in the teeth of a crisis. mayb this interview is just another famous johnson troll operation but whatever the case may be it reiterates what Benjamin Disraeli one said that "in politics nothing is contemptible"

    • @tonyb9735
      @tonyb9735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Benjamin Disraeli was wrong. Boris Johnson is contemptible.

    • @bigpants6121
      @bigpants6121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he had to turn up.

    • @smellslikethinice1107
      @smellslikethinice1107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes Doris is noble for doing his job. You know answering questions that affect us all.
      Geez no wonder we are where we are... with a mad PM and his circus

  • @scotishjohn
    @scotishjohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fantastic liar

  • @nettcologne9186
    @nettcologne9186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who has ruled the UK for over 10 years?

  • @shooglies
    @shooglies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gary Gibbon, you should be really proud. You exposed a liar and a scoundrel and absolutely kicked the s**t out of him. Well done

  • @ArendJanV
    @ArendJanV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At least we’ve got 350 million a week for the NHS since Brexit. What a mess.

    • @patrickmccutcheon9361
      @patrickmccutcheon9361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did the NHS get that 350m per week?

    • @martinvickers7349
      @martinvickers7349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course we actually got 800 million a week loss and rising

  • @airingcupboard
    @airingcupboard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So, the most productive countries in the world are either in the EEA or on the EU, with Ireland at number 2 with Denmark, France and Germany ahead of the UK. Pretty much tells you this stuff about the EU being to blame is pure BS. What the UK has is a culture of cheapness and not paying people for their work. Effectively the ideology pushed by their party for the last 30 years, which New Labour adopted. They also washed their hands of any form of production for services - it all turns out this was all a huge mistake. It's amazing how the Brexit slight of hand works and what it's mean to hide.

  • @jeant763
    @jeant763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If he is fighting low wages, he could increase the wages of skilled NHS workers.
    But who is going to do the low skilled jobs? No mention of that, or are all jobs now highly skilled? Who would have thought!

    • @cyclist3969
      @cyclist3969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      who will do the low-skilled jobs? University graduates with underwater basket weaving degrees, ( Sociology/Media Studies/ Gender Studies / International Tourism).

  • @benghiskahn3673
    @benghiskahn3673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So the conclusion of Johnson's interview is that many of our main competitors, most of whom are in the EU, are roughly 20%+ more productive than us, therefore we didn't actually need to leave the EU in order to address our problems and Brexit was just a huge waste of time and money which is creating more problems than solutions.

    • @cyclist3969
      @cyclist3969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is UK 20% down on our main competitors, (GDP/ capita), because we admitted far too much deadwood into our country.

  • @hazelhatswell4268
    @hazelhatswell4268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Total bumkum 😡 Kudos Garry Gibbon for making this charlatan squirm and holding up a bright light on the Tory incapacity to achieve anything … all blah blah blah …. asleep on the job since at least 2016 …. more interviews like this please! 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @mrobammamalcomx7643
    @mrobammamalcomx7643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stay at home save petrol protect the fuel station from BORIS JOHNSON

  • @thelk2k
    @thelk2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Boris is clearly laughing inside about the whole situation. He is smirking

  • @mattwilliams9758
    @mattwilliams9758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a reminder: we are a decade and more into Conservative rule, and 5 years passed the referendum… the shortages should tell you this Oaf has no plan!

  • @MrBlue-dm5li
    @MrBlue-dm5li 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You didn’t make a plan did you? Priceless🤣

  • @RisiCheshire
    @RisiCheshire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    High inequality results in low productivity. Tax the rich and increase minimum wage.

    • @shamanahaboolist
      @shamanahaboolist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No don't increase minimum wage. Put a maximum wage in and cap the greedy executives based on how much they're prepared to pay the people that work for them. Make it so they can't take more than 20x their lowest paid worker and watch as wages rise and inflation doesn't.

    • @RisiCheshire
      @RisiCheshire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shamanahaboolist I think that is also an option, though it does seem like it's potentially a bit messy. There's no reason they can't simply outsource all low paying jobs to an 'unaffiliated' but essentially subsidiary company to avoid such restrictions.

    • @shamanahaboolist
      @shamanahaboolist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RisiCheshire Then just make the law to include sub-contractors. Employment contract or any other kind of work contract. Minimum hourly rate that anyone can be paid is 20x lower than the CEO's pro-rata hourly rate determined by their full remuneration package divided by their contracted annual work time.

    • @shamanahaboolist
      @shamanahaboolist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @kira good. No more market for them then. Someone else can take it.

    • @shamanahaboolist
      @shamanahaboolist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @kira Nah. I know loads of people who would happily take a 20x pay rise to do a CEO's job.

  • @Spacey7
    @Spacey7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Johnson wouldn't know the truth if it ran into him at 100mph!! Wishful thinking there.

    • @polgara4624
      @polgara4624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He wouldn't believe it either, he only believes in unicorns :)

  • @mikeenwright333
    @mikeenwright333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Johnson loves to talk about how bad the "old" models are, without the slightest acknowledgement that his party has been in power for the past 10 years. WTF????

  • @minimax9452
    @minimax9452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    at least you have good journalists👍

  • @donfzic7471
    @donfzic7471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since the Brexit vote, the life is wonderful in UK. Excepted that we need a lot of lorry drivers, employees on farms, employees on factories, doctors, nurses, business men, entrepreneurs, IT engineers, students and so on.
    Even the EU tourists are no longer in UK !

  • @dan8031
    @dan8031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Even if wages increase, which I doubt they will. The cost of living will increase in reflection of this. It’s all relative, you’ll always have the poor, and you’ll always have the rich. Boris and lies are starting to catch up on him.

  • @starvinmarvin84
    @starvinmarvin84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Meanwhile in the EU: Popcorn shortage 🍿

    • @suyona7578
      @suyona7578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi friend. I think I know you.

  • @colincosimini9421
    @colincosimini9421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    how stipid does he think we are , boris just go please

    • @DomFurlong
      @DomFurlong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be fair he does not need to think, he KNOWS 52% of us are stupid!

  • @p.ellet.1314
    @p.ellet.1314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He'll be rich no matter how the population suffers

  • @LR-sy6wy
    @LR-sy6wy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He's like a record going round round round right round....

  • @adascott994
    @adascott994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I prefer the Spitting Image version of this cabinet. They make more sense

  • @Keyboardnut99
    @Keyboardnut99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This guy is totally out of his depth!

  • @morsmagne
    @morsmagne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After this interview, Boris went away and gave the thumbs-up to 504,000 net immigration. He did the exact opposite of what he said he'd do in this interview.

  • @raahauge
    @raahauge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "We need to invest in X" is the new BS-line from politicians, who have never been involved in investment decisions in a private company or private business. [Replace X with some fluffy feel-good idea the voters like]. You hear it in the UK (apparently), in my country, and probably in all countries with politicians with no management experience from outside politics.
    Usually, "we need to spend more taxpayers money on X" would be a more precise description.

  • @ince55ant
    @ince55ant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    covid-19 started 2 years ago, brexit 5 years ago. this government does not and never did have a handle on these things.

  • @jon780249
    @jon780249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I presume they had to call the fire brigade at the end to put his pants out?

  • @benghiskahn3673
    @benghiskahn3673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My partner works in logistics for one of the big four supermarkets. She says that every day has been chaos since January and it's gradually getting worse.

  • @bustedfender
    @bustedfender 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    D’you think he’s ever had to worry about paying the rent or leccy? Most of us can’t just knock out a few hundred words for five figures when we need to.

    • @LucasChaser1
      @LucasChaser1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is a VERY good point which cuts straight to the heart of the problem. There's far too much easy money floating about for these scroungers, they auction off tennis matches to party donors for tens of thousands and all sorts of other underhand ways of giving away respect and integrity in return for corrupt influence and bribes that nobody realises, but which if it were more widely known about, surely people would object. What a sad state of affairs. Sorry for the long reply, you just got me thinking....

    • @martinvickers7349
      @martinvickers7349 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially when those words are LIES

  • @JJ-zo8sh
    @JJ-zo8sh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have they not been in charge for over a decade? He’s finally admitting they’ve been a shambles

  • @jerryorange6983
    @jerryorange6983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Come on Farmers voted to stop immigrants and Boris delivered. What is wrong about it?
    Farmers can go and drive lorries, and bring Turkeys and porc from the EU.

  • @TheChiefEng
    @TheChiefEng 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This interview definitely makes UK appear definitively 3rd world.
    UK is the global laughingstock at this point but a majority of Brits still vote conservative so nobody feels sorry for UK.
    The current situation will only get worse and if BoJo losses his mind and try to cancel the NI Protocol, then UK will be in the receiving end of tariffs from EU which will destroy the UK economy very quickly.
    Another outcome is that UK will be unable to secure any trade agreement with any other nation since UK has then proven that it is ready to violate international law if an agreement suddenly does not work in their favor.
    Boris Johnson is an utter joke.

  • @brianduguid6721
    @brianduguid6721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I despair listening to Mr Johnson and his childish reactions when he is challenged on some of the misguided answers that he gives often not related to the question. Also can he think before engaging his mouth.!

  • @danielpetit2186
    @danielpetit2186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The answer is simple, and should have always been the way for the UK… Do what Switzerland has always done, and offer work visas only for specified periods of time, to specific trades, with no provision of permanent residency. The ‘Schengen Treaty’ was a capitalist hayday and really f***ed up the UK, with greedy employers getting very cosy with unlimited supplies of cheap labour... The British working class were then shat-upon for 35 years from a very great height indeed, whilst the middle-class grew and grew and grew… What is happening at the moment is only the beginning of a reckoning for this.