Denise Richards Talks Toxic Divorce, Custody & How To Handle It All
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don't forget the grandparents in a divorce. as a child of divorce both sets of my grandparents were the only stable influences in my chaotic life when my parents were living their toxic relationship and their divorce. luckily my 4 grandparents got along as grandparents and showed me consistancy/tradition
That's great but when grandparents are toxic too, it can create more chaos.
Hoppys parents were not nice to bethany from day 1 I thought they were hard work.
Bethany went through an awful with their son I never liked him . I was scared for her
Bryn is lovely and bethany is a wonderful mum. Margaret
@@saltycat662 I hear you. If you divorced a nacissist, the grandparents most of the time aren't great as well!
Oh I needed this! I have been married for 10 years. I have young children and yet I have filed for divorce. I am leaving with nothing (having been a stay at home mom forever). My husband is hiding all his assets. But the hardest is the kids manipulation from the other parent. I hope I will get to see the light at the end of the tunnel! Sometimes I wonder if I should just stay with him
I was in the same situation. Married 14 years, stay at home mom as my ex was a financial advisor. He sold off things and hid the money and I left with nothing. All I wanted was my kids. For me, nothing else mattered but them. You can always rebuild, and your peace of mind is so important when you have little ones that depend on you. I hope your future is blessed❤️
I'm sorry girly ... Keep your head up and remember you got this!!!!
You need to be good, to be good for your kids. Praying for your strength💞
Me too. Married 25 yrs and so much parental alienation on my exes part. Thank God both my kids see the truth now.
Choosing the children over the money is the most rewarding road you could imagine. Dealing with a mind f*****er is soul destroying and getting away is the best option for you and your children. Financially it will be stressful and incredibly unfair and your life will feel like it's been put hold but you will have some incredible humans who will know what you did for them ❤
I love Denise Richards. She's been thru hell and back , definitely a survivor
I’m pre-divorce, and I was really trying to make cohabitation and coparenting work. He makes living with him impossible, and his behavior is cold and insidious. I can’t be the mom I need to be for my boys if I’m always on edge. As awful as divorce is, staying together can be far worse.
parental alienation and narcissism are rife in broken relationships. Sending prayers.
Oh my Lord-reading your post felt like I was reading my life.
I’m in the Same Exact situation. Right before I turned this video on, I was praying to God saying I know now-no more denial how I can’t be the mom my boys need in this environment.
Good luck & I’ll say a prayer 🙏 for you & your family
Bethenny looks Xtra beautiful today❤️😍!
Yes, she does. I’ve always liked B, even when she’s at her worst on RHNY. ❤
Totally ❤
Wow I can so relate to this. After 25 yrs of marriage my ex went onto tinder and got himself a girlfriend (who moved in with him immediately following our divorce five years ago). At that time my daughter was in college but my son still and still does live with both of us as we share custody and I do the exact same thing on holidays. We split them and are the ones that I don’t have with him I just do it on another day when he’s with me. It’s sad. I did everything in my power to try not to disrupt my children’s life, and he had this woman move right in with him and both my kids despise her. She actually had the nerve to tell my son when she moved in that he could start calling her mom now. His response was I already have a mom. At the time he was nine years old. I still have a hard time and I’m not currently dating anyone because I don’t know if I could ever trust anybody again to be honest I I’m not an unattractive person but I just don’t know if I could put myself out there again
Have faith things will get better.
Best conversation ever. Thanks for shining light on this, so helpful to so many ❤ B
What a great chat! As a divorced parent from 20 years ago, when it’s a toxic situation, children in WILL realize what went on! People please listen to this! The Guardian at Litem was a God send, in my case
I'm based in the UK and have no knowledge about the Guardian system but it sounds so important for others to know about. Is it expensive? Also I'm pleased your the other side of it.
@@missj.d9187 it’s paid for, most times, by the courts but if I had to pay, I can’t remember, it was well worth it. Full sole custody & he only got supervised visitation!
Great show Bethany Love Denise also
God bless you both
You are both and inspiration for wemon going threw this
Hi B,I just listened to your podcast with Denise,as a divorced survivor,but your advice about early or a bit later for holidays,is perfect,kids don’t really care what damn day it is,they’re kids,be happy,such great advise,sooooo helpful,thank you both so much. Strong women being strong,go ladies😊🙏💐
Incredible podcast, Bethenny & Denise, you handled this delicate topic impeccably. 👌❤️
Thanks for following along!
Great topic. Great conversation.
Love Denise.
One of the best things I learned in divorce class.
They said that you shouldn't call them our exes, we are Mother and Father and will be all their life.
Do not call other parent's names or criticize them. Do not talk mean or rude while children can here you on the phone.
Most lasting one I took to heart was they said everytime you talk mean and rudely or yell at either parent, you might as well go take your biggest chef's knife and plunge it between your child's ribs as far as you can. That is what you are doing, you are tearing them apart by making them choose and or letting them hear parent's yelling and arguing and they think it's their fault. That statement hurt me so deeply, I never spoke bad about her dad. Unfortunately her dad did not do the same and I can say that my daughter would ask me why dad talked bad about me. I reinforced that we both loved her and by age 15 she had choosen to limit her time with her dad. She didn't want him to talk bad about me. I didn't cover for him if he didn't show up once she was 14 or so. I told her I didn't know what happened but that we can use the time doing our thing. I would let him make up time, if he was responsible about contacting me. I am blessed we are close.
Thanks for discussing this, it is so very important and can hurt our children so much.🌷
Bethenny, this might be my favorite makeup look on you! You look so youthful ❤ and glowing
🌼 Great interview, it’s always soo nice to see Denise🌟 Denise is 80”s to current royalty ! You both look fantastic , love the make up reviews Bethany would love if you could extend the video time a bit because love to tune in and set while cleaning or getting ready, but when it cuts and ends in 20 min I have to stop and find another video if auto play doesn’t follow up with one of your videos🤷♀️ all in all fantastic interviews 🙂🌼
Glad you enjoyed it xoxo
My current husband and I both came from horrendous, toxic marriages. I buried mine. Very verbally abusive. My husband of 24 yrs now, just handed over all of his money. His children, my step children are the most wonderful, amazing people, and I love them so much. Their mother was, and is still very toxic. Sometimes the men are treated terribly, no matter how hard they try to make a divorce amicable.
Thank you Bethenny and Denise, this was a big eye opener when divorcing with young children.....much love to you both 💖
Thanks for watching!
I always admired you women on how you handled parenting with these men
Another excellent interview/podcast Bethenny! Your personal slogan birthday sweater is the best! ~Love&Light♥️Carli
Love that you watched!
Great interview! What Bethany does best is use her Brain!🙏🙏🙏Blessing’s
This was such a great podcast , I wish I would of had this advice available during my divorce with a young child . It’s so heart wrenching and difficult . Thanks for sharing ladies
Thanks for watching!
Great interview/discussion. I was always so impressed by Denise’s dad. Solid guy.
I loved this chat!!! ❤❤
Thank you needed this today
Divorce lawyer Sue-- learned a lot from the Christmas discussion. Thank you.
LOVE Bethenny always!!!❤❤❤
LOVE WHAT YOUR DOING , GREAT INTERVIEW ❗❗❗
Aww, YAY!!
I’m glad Denise pointed out that most people don’t have the resources to have two of everything. So on that point…the vindictive ex has a fake Christmas and gifts the kid all the big gifts that you were so excited to see them open on Christmas morning! They pretend to “work” with you to give the child special gifts so you DON’T duplicate each other but then refuse to allow the gift to leave their house. Eventually the kid figures this all out but it’s a nightmare when they are too young to understand. It takes a level of maturity to put the kids first.
I was married 20 years and it was toxic for the last few years. Once we split up i struggled but we both wanted to put the children first. A few years later we are good friends but we will never reunite. The childen like us better like this. Were still a family and were proud of how weve put our kids first and built a friendship. I always say i could never hate anyone more than i love my children, saying that to myself definitely helped keep things in track especially when emotions were high at first.
Unfortunately my other ex had a toxic new wife so that was almost impossible for years
How brilliant to have your own holiday with your child/children! This makes perfect sense. 👍🏽✨💯💝
The custody prenup is also brilliant. ✨
My parents’ toxic marriage & divorce still affects my brothers & me & we’re in our 50’s & 60’s. My mom still bashes my dad & he’s been dead 22 years
so sorry to hear that . Thanks for reminding me of the damage that can be done
Bethenny and Denise 🎸🥁💯 🙌TY ladies ❤
Love Denise and Bethany
It's sad when 2 adults cannot put children first instead of the middle. Sometimes love just hurts way more than it loves.
I always did fake holidays.. and now as my kids are older and have lives and partners with their family's we will continue to do it as needed. It makes for stress free holidays, no guilt it's fabulous ✨️
Great interview! I can so relate!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bethany going for changes,yes,change is good,scary but so needed
I don't have children and have never been through a divorce, but this was still a very interesting conversation to listen to. Plus, I'm noisy and wondered what B went through with her daughter's father. 🤭 Thanks for sharing, ladies.
Watching Bethenny choke up and get the quiver lip when she was talking about missing Brynn at Christmas some years and how terrible that was hit me so hard. I don’t know how you got through your divorce and the toxic way your ex treated you, but I’m so happy for Brynn that you always put her first. She’s the winner in this situation, but it makes me so empathetic for her to see her recall the memory of those hard times.
I had my son full time so EVERY holiday......I mean EVERY holiday, my son spent it with his dad. How many tears I cried.....I can't count. But, I felt it was in my son's best interest to do that. I just didn't count. I have spent every holiday alone for 8 years.
I REALLY pray you go as public with this case as you have done with the reality show reckoning. It is SUCH a huge topic and in canada a group of "feminists' are working to get parental alienation REMOVED from our legal systems as a valid threat to. the children. Its INSANE. I know someone who is currently going through a brutal custody battle with what can be assumed is a serious narcissistic personality disorder, where parental alienation is happening, and it is the most traumatic and brutal form of abuse for everyone involved, that any human can be put through, to the adults but most importantly to the CHILDREN. please share more on this topic. Ivehad my fair share of narc Abus ever the years and this exemplifies it perfectly. please keep sharing and getting involved in getting the courts and the lawyers to recognize and educate themselves thoroughly on NPD (the DSM-5 is a joke) , DIVORCE POISON and PARENTAL ALIENATION. Thank you Bethany xo
I like the idea of the “fake” Christmas or Thanksgiving or whatever holiday is at hand. The child also benefits from two experiences ☺️ Absolutely in the child’s best interest
It’s hell and lonely thank you for this topic ❤
This is such a real conversation and I love you both! My judge almost gave the marital home to my daughter and made us go back and forth until she was 18. I actually was good with that but my ex said no. The first year she went back and forth and then she turned 13 and she's with me most of the time. My ex and I get a long now so we can do holidays together so I get that Denise. It's hard sometimes but I make it work for my daughter.
Thanks for watching ❤
@@bethennyfrankel Thank you and now I need help with her teenage acne and teenager girl/boy drama.
I very much appreciate this subject and talk. But it would be super helpful if The images were split screen. Because it would be helpful to see Denise's reactions to Bethenny. I love Bethany but it's mostly just her on camera.
I LOVED, Scratch that - I ADORED the first interview you did with Denise because I’m 55 & I remember Denise & Charlie breaking up when she was pregnant w/ their 2nd babe and Denise is a STRONGer woman than I with how she handled stuff w/ all that….and she was a Youngun!!! So you two come from different sides of the same ‘Divorce’ coin and each found a way to ultimately do the very best for the kids! I commend you both for doing an EXCELLENT job at the HARDest job around: PARENTING!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻♥️♥️♥️ @DeniseRichards
@BethennyFrankel 🙌🏼🫶🏻👍🏻
Denise looks amazing ❤❤
I wish I could get a visitation schedule to be able to see my own grandchild. My daughter passed away, and her daughter is being raised by her dad, with the help of his mother. He will not allow me to help, and grudgingly lets me see my granddaughter every 6 weeks. It's heartbreaking when a troubled parent will not put the best interest of their own child first, and not use their child in the games they play. Emotional maturity is required and some people never grow up. They hate another adult more than they love their own child. It's so sad.
Stay strong for now… she WILL come to you even if when older as she will want to know everything about her mum and you are the only person who can give her all your memories of her mum and she will want to be close to you as that piece of her is missing. That bond will come x
Bethenny and Denise❤❤
Thanks for watching!
Excellent live
Thanks for watching!
Love your sweater B!!!!!💕Annie
This is why I had my son by myself lol! As a child of divorce, and hearing sooo many messed up custody cases, I knew I wanted kids but not court issues!
Therapist here. Denise is right, many therapists will not treat without both signatures for their own liability if custody is 50/50 or you are in the middle of divorce. Especially if they are in private practice or a solo practitioner. Your best option is what Bethenny stated - use the school resources. Schools not only have school counselors many districts have contracts with county mental health clinics and have licensed therapists come in during school hours to treat and during the summer months. Now with a licensed therapist you will still need both signatures however if your child goes to the school counselor and the school counselor says “holy buckets this is over my pay grade this child needs an actually therapist,” but your soon to be ex says no - now that is documented that you were attempting to get your child proper support and the other parent was preventing care. This sucks to say but I as a solo practitioner require both signatures for the liability but also to ensure the child has both parents on board from the get go so that one isn’t undermining the work in the background. That can also be damaging. The school resources are under used and many parents do not realize such arrangements with actual mental health professional organizations are available with in their school system. Insurance is accepted, sliding scales are available, lots of options when you go through the school. ❤
Bethany you look awesome girl! Glow up for sure 🤍
Love Bethany
Wish m daughter had had such good advice ! Thank you?❤️
We love our relatable, comforting, queen Denise Richards
I love her on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills I wish she'd come back and tell her story. My parents got divorced after i turned 18, 35 years of marriage .It was such a nightmare. I agree my mom did that too. She waited until we where if age because of custody.She didnt want my father to have any given she had the to do ao longer story on that . But its tough but also its tough as kids because i knew my parents shouldn't have been together now both remarried and happy
Wow, both you ladies are looking magnificent. I keep wishing you guys would break into a skin care and makeup tutorial.💋💋
Everything about it sucks. Just went to court again because my ex told my 16 yo daughter she couldnt work at her job on "his time". Of course the judge sided with him.
Speaking for regular people, not Hollywood Superstar wealth, it’s very easy for parents to set up the children at both of their homes (lip gloss, clothes, whatever) to make the transition between homes easier. My friend and her ex-husband made it work, and their child accepted “at Daddy’s I have X, Y, Z” and at Mummy’s I have “A, B, C”…. It avoided all of the issues with packing, who was not washing what properly or ironing etc… plus the power struggles another one of my friends had with her ex-husband (where the child would forget things and have a meltdown but he’d be “too busy” to pick it up… and she’d be running around having to drop things off and interact with him, which she hated/he was a total AH),… Another example I’ve seen - amicable divorce (within reason/they still hated each other, but were willing to remain civil for the kids), was an ex-boss of mine…. She and her ex-husband shared a downsized home (I think she bought it with the divorce settlement, and let him use it/they shared utilities), and they moved the kids permanently to the ex-husband’s parents home….. the ex-husband’s parents moved to a studio or granny flat attached to the home… which they were happy with, as meant they didn’t have to sell the property amd move to retirement living, plus they got to see their grandkids. So, instead of the children moving weekly, she and her ex-husband were the ones who switched homes weekly, so the kids could have the stability for education, their hobbies/sports etc. She was very lucky to have such great in-laws - she hated her ex-husband, but loved his parents (and they respected her as a mother/loved her, just knew she and their son weren’t suited anymore) - plus space and $$$… they weren’t loaded, but they were clearly comfortable, all on professional wages…. So it just worked. More people should consider it if their circumstances allows. The great thing about it too was that if she and her husband wanted to dispute or anything like that (or if they were dating someone + just wanted to keep it away from the kids), they did it all at the parents swapsies home. It protected their kids from a lot of the nastiness that some of my other friends have gone through etc etc. They thrived, and she continued to have a great relationship with her in-laws.
My mom never spoke poorly about my father in front of me because she knew I would realize what was what eventually. And I did. There are also parents who try the parental alienation when the other parent is actually a fabulous father or mother and it only ends up hurting the child in the long run.
Ive done Thanksgiving on Sunday for years than everyone can go where they want for Thanksgiving and i have everyone on Sunday, plus as a nurse i got double time an a half & my husband did his job too Really our coworkers loved us-whats the difference??
I love that Dennise feels so strongly about not bashing your child’s other parent. Best thing for the children, but not a lot of people understand that.
Such an important topic that affects so many people. It brings out the absolute worst is some people and adding in a sprinkle of money it's hell on earth. Trying to love your kids more than you hate your ex is so hard when an ex's actions is hurting your kids. This was an awful profile pic of Denise to choose . Good luck to anyone going through this !
This subject matter is not relatable for me. That said, these two women are lovely and a delight to listen to and watch.
My niece and her ex both rented small affordable studio apartments that they lived in.
During the time each did not have the kids. The parents would travel to the children at the family home during the weeks they had custody. I wish more parents had the emotional maturity to always put their child’s needs first.
Nothing to do with the topic but, you and Denise's makeup look great. ❤
I came up with why should babies leave the home so we the adults switched out. When it was his time i went to a friends house or hotel and vice versa. However that has to be 2 sane parents that put kids care first. Its an option
LOVE Denise Always.
It was the right thing to do Denise. You need to shelter the children as best that you can. ❤
Custody prenup is genius.
How difficult it can be when one gets divorced especially when there are children involved so sad.A MUST to communicate and work it out.
Not when you're married to a terrible person who's mentally and emotionally abusing you and putting your children in the middle. Work it out if you're both decent people and can actually salvage the marriage. Personally, I think most people end up marrying the wrong person because they see the red flags too late.
@@saltycat662 of course that is obvious!
This Denise is amazing, why was she so crazy on RHOBH recently.
Me and my daughters father did co parenting perfectly until he remarried. This woman was so insecure that I was not allowed to bring my daughter to their door. I had to drop her off curbside. I didn't even know that was a thing. And when it came down to my time he didn't go by the agreement. It was a nightmare more for my daughter than anyone else
Bethany remember before you had your money with all do respect. Can you imagine going thru this and working to survive?
I wish I could have heard this advice 15 years ago when I was navigating divorce with little girls.
I thought this was going to be a series. Part one and two videos disappeared??
Amazing- so hard, so real.🙂🙏👋
I would love to see more food and cooking from you. 😊
Nice informative show
Thanks for watching ❤
We split xmas day. My ex live 4 hours away. So he leave his new family xmas morning drives to get kids and then drive 4 hours back so kids get xmas dinner around 7. Its stressful and awful for the kids. All the kids. But he wont give up splitting that day, wont agree to year on/off either. And we live in a place with blizzards and shit highways in december. It sucks.
Love you both chatting together…..I’ve been divorced 3 times…I’m now an expert :(….
CUSTODY PRE-NUP HELL YES!
In essence what Bethenny is saying sounds great. However, the privilege it’s making a lot of her ideas inaccessible. I love that Denise is highlighting that they both live in a world of privilege. Legal fees, custodians, having multiple sets of things.
Love Denise
Love Denise, she fully understands life in the real world, she remembers what life with feck all is like.
As much as I adore Bethenny, she’s never lived in the actual world, with literally nothing.
Bethenny’s experience of being broke was living in Manhattan with “only” $7000 in the bank.
Most of us have never had “only” that much money!
Like her dollar store stuff, it’s great, I love her, but for instance the Charlotte Tilbury mascara she was loving, well, in England it costs £28! Which I realise is not a fortune, but who, in the real struggling world could buy that?
However, I do love her & will continue to do so, because she does get it on the most part…❤
Oh, & she’s truly so funny af & doesn’t give a shit about being glam-squadded all the time or being seen as her real self.
❤
Very nice, easy listening convo about real stuff...you ladies rock...❤❤❤ east coast/west coast vibes coming together as one. ❤❤
Wanted to hear a bit more from denise.
Thanks for watching ❤
Bethany, Why did your divorce take so long? What did Jason want?
I wish you’d go in detail about your divorce and your relationship with Jason now.
Why did your divorce take so long?
I mean that in the most sympathetic way. Only curious
Basically it was because he was a flaming a**hole who dragged out the divorce as long as it was causing her pain. He was all about inflicting pain.
What did he get in the divorce? A billion?
She did, it’s on her podcast, the episode is ‘Bethany on divorce’. She lays it all out..
Always 2 sides but never 2 right sides
@@karleet thank you!!!!’
The thumbnail does not do you service.
I LOVE DENISE BETHANY. WE SHOULD HOOKUP
Oh no, whoever picked the thumbnail did you guys dirty!!!
I was thinking the same thing! Even the Mary Fitzgerald episode thumbnail is so bad!
It should always be about the best interest of the children, they didn't chose to be in this situation.
This is the first video I have watched you interview a guest other than Rachel I love this conversation and your guest is such a wonderful woman. My heart breaks for her and the nonsense she endures.
Thanks for watching!
If I understood right, you and Jason still don't communicate? I'm so shocked and saddened to hear that. I mean, I'm sure you've done all you can. I remember what he put you through, though, so I guess maybe it's better. I hope Bryn has a good relationship with him, though ❤
Quien te hizo la carita Denise??
Bethany it sounds like Jason was crazy and I don’t mean crazy ha ha but scary crazy, I feel for your emotions but thankfully you had your own money because as crazy as Jason is he would have starved you
I’ve been separated from my daughter for over 3 years because of an abusive, vindictive, controlling covert narcissist and nasty, unethical judge. Never been in trouble with the law, never had a drug or drinking problem. He weaponized the court because he has to destroy me. I see her one hour a week at therapy. We have 3, 1-hour FaceTime calls with her father supervising - my abuser, her abuser… I ran out of money and can’t afford to go back to court. I missed her from age 10 to almost 14. I haven’t been able to have a private conversation with her all this time. In the meantime he moved and got married in Vegas and didn’t tell me. If he communicates to me at all it’s through our 13 yo daughter. But the judge loves him. And he has money. He plays the game like a pro. I ‘ll never have these years back with her. He is abusing her by keeping her from me for his own needs for control and domination. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone. And I can’t be vocal about it because it can affect my daughter and be held against me in court.
The parent that won’t take kids to their stuff is maddening- my friend divorced her husband and she went from being a submissive crunchy, homeschooling mom of 6 to a feminist-full-time working mom who’s ex would refuse to take the kids to their sports on his days. He was highly abusive and the kids would make excuses for him, then take out their true feelings on her. We always thought they were the perfect family- the only kids that were perfect in church. Sat still, HIGHLY obedient. No idea it was out of fear.
The fights over who bought what and it stays at one parents house, so much stress on a child, I’ve witnessed this with my grandchildren. I watched them stress and cry over this issue, father is 3 months late on child support but just bought a new Range Rover. And lives with the nanny and her child whom he had affair with during the marriage. He’s only 11 but one day he will have to get over this trauma. It’s a difficult train wreck to watch. I’ve never disliked a person more than her for damaging my grandson life. What kind of woman thinks this is ok? Ok I’ve said my anger, just wish this wasn’t the situation. Venting grandma
I can’t get over how well Denise has aged. She’s just as beautiful now as she was in the film when she walked out of the beach!!