Really like that you review budget firearms. I'm not broke, but the reason is, I tend to pirchase budget friendly guns. Ruger, Canik, Heritage, and such. I may take a look at this one too. Thanks again!
The "branded" pistols are, generally speaking, overpriced. Especially in markets OUTSIDE the USA. In Europe, handguns are 20-50% more expensive; even the Turkish ones are more costly too! I'm a mechanical engineer (small arms major), and the price of a polymer is pretty much the same for Glocks, H&K's, S&W... Yeah, there are different versions of polymers, but the price difference is negligible. The polymer chassis production costs are under $5. I believe that the whole production cost of a striker-fired polymer pistol should be under 80 USD. In Turkey, due to the low hourly wage, it is probably even under 50 USD. The most important parts of the pistol are the barrel, firing pin, and magazines. Yes, slides (bolts) are important too, but if you'll experience any material problems, it's going to be on those parts that are exposed to blasts, mechanical shocks, and magazines. I have heard that Turks are buying barrels from Germany, so if true, the barrels are as good as the ones on Glock. The Turks have one GREAT flaw: poor quality control and, thus, a poor brand image. Canik, in my opinion, has managed to improve even the brand-image part...
I don't think Ruger has been in the budget category in a very long time...if ever. With that said, back in the early '80s I remember their bolt-action rifles running about $80-$100 less than similar (comparable?) models from Winchester & Remington.
Exactly, you can find LE trade in Glock 22's and 23's for $250 to $300 and then buy a 9mm conversion barrel and a couple of mags and be able to shoot both calibers for about $350 to $375 total. Or just pay $300 for the Glock 19 or 17 if 9mm is your thing.
The issue I have with ALL Glocks is the grip angle actually forces my hand to twist to the wrist in the direction of the small finger that I lose sensation in the hand. True from a G19 through a G41. Most of the 'clones' don't have that sharp angle on the grip, so work far better for me. I kept several Glocks for range days, but got rid of several because I honestly can't use them for carry if after 10 to 15 minutes I can't feel my hand.
I’m with you on that. But I did trade in my Glock 19 for an Sig P320 M17, which I carry… I just like having a manual safety. I’ll probably get a Glock 21 for the nightstand.
Great video! Saying it is a G19 clone and then presenting a side by side comparison was excellent - and then you swapped the slide and confirmed fit, which did answer the question in my mind as you anticipated. Now the question for me is will I add one to my collection? Probably, especially at that price. Oh, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing your son's photographic work - it was a nice change of pace.
I always like your shooting videos, but honestly, I didn't think there were frogs living in that area. That kinda surprised me. Seems your son knows something about photography also.
@@fokkerd3red618 I was informed by several viewers that the little critters are actually red spotted toads and not frogs. My son and I found toads in an old mine several years ago and maybe we will go back and see if they are still in there. Should make for an interesting video.
"Not so bad, eh?" Are you kidding? Your shooting was amazing, and the pistol performance was equally impressive! Very cool that you let your son post the photos. Those were very unusual looking frogs. Thanks for what you do!
Hello Sir!! Man that first target you popped was magic; that 2 inch group mag dump.....you're good! Anyways, I'm kinda scratching my bald head on the Glock mag slide lock issue. But that said, Now I want to go get me one of those pistols. :) Good to see you two today!! Blessins to yas
My experience with the RPX-9 has been frustrating. Accurate, yes. Reliable, heck no. Slide locks just like this video shows. Add to this GForce's customer service is non-existent. Magpul mags do a bit better, but this is still not a reliable platform.
Thank you for these videos. I absolutely decided to buy Rock Island M206 snubby after watching your videos on it. Best $200 bucks I ever spent. I usually don't buy the budget brand firearms but watching your videos and Hickock45 and Big Daddy Hoffman's videos has changed my mind on certain budget guns on more than one occasion. So thanks to you and your son and that was some amazing photography.
It's easy to sell a cheap gun when you have no R&D department, said the Clone CEO. Another enjoyable video and great photography by your son. He shoots well with a camera and a firearm 👍
Well I just bought the GForce Exodus... I've been wanting a Glock because of the redundancy it offers with my Ruger PC Carbine ammo and magazines... but haven't been able save up for one with the way the world is... I thought this over the PSA Dagger because of various reasons... $250 is worth a shot. Thanks again for your top notch review, and as always God bless you, your son and entire family.
@@JRNY87 I'm not 100% sure on the compatibility with this one. If I had to guess, I'd look for a trigger that fits a Gen 3 Glock since that's what most of these clones are copying.
I like a good bargain! I have a Beretta APX (Brazilian LE surplus NIB unissued) coming - $299 from AIM Surplus. If we lived close, I'd bring it to you to try out. All of the reviews are great for this pistol and like you, I just find it hard to pass up a bargain like that. Thanks for another great vid! I always like to see your son in these with you. I enjoy the bug and frog stills too. He needs to do his own YT channel with bugs and frogs and the like - dessert critters.
Wow, a Beretta APX new in the box for $299......I'm jealous! My son takes beautiful photos and he has won several photo contests. Maybe he should do a few instructional videos here on youtube but in the meantime I will keep showing his photos in my video reviews. 👍😎
Just wanted to give you a thanks. I watched this video and decided I had to add this to my collection and for the price and the features it's a win win!!! Like your videos keep them coming and it's hot in texas too.....
Great review on the G.Force RPX9!!. Regarding the slide release issue, I had the very same slide release (Glock OEM), with same problem, specifically when I shot Major Power Factor (~177 - ish) handloads in USPSA / IDPA Comp several years ago. Quite simple solution indeed: Carefully uninstall it, then 'straighten' its return spring some 35° degrees, (Harder to operate), and presto. Most my Glocks had the 3.5 lb connector + Lightning Strike Titanium striker + some surface honing + a couple Custom fitted, FULLY supported bbls to avoid higher pressure handloads' issues Thanks for sharing your kid's photographic Masterpieces, which are absolutely gorgeous showing our Almighty Lord's🙏 supreme job regarding our Wildlife & beautiful Outdoors!!.🏆. So many thanks & Blessings to you both for your truly dedicated / professional work!. 😊🇺🇸💪🙏🙏🙏🙏
Picked one up Friday, can't wait to run it through the paces. Well I took it to the range the next day and ran 8 magazines through it and had issues, now I didn't clean it before hand . I have since cleaned and took it back to the range and ran 13 more magazines through it and only ran into issues towards the end of the last magazine it started having the same issues of not going into battery.
So had it at the range ran about 150 rounds, used blazer brass 124 grain. Ran good did have about 15 issues requiring tapping the back of the slide into battery.
I've sent 160 rounds downrange over 2 visits, numerous occurrences of not going into battery., even with Magpul mags. This gun is a dud, and GForce doesn't support their product.
Wow Ray i never thought abought a bigger grain bullet making your gun jam,,,,, Slide lock back!!!! I learn some-thing new every time i watch your videos!!!! Thanks to you and your son!!!
You said it.. win win. Now they just need to offer a 10mm mos. for half the price of a Glock mod 40. 36 rounds of reliable shots from the factory mag. should be plenty, unless you are a 2023 LEO. That was a dig on those that fired over 50rnds at a perp. I appreciate our LEO's and they know it.
I had my local gun store order me one from their distributor. Picked it up for $246.00. Took it to the range today and fired about 100 rounds with no problems. It even felt like I was shooting a G19. At that price, I'm very pleased with this purchase. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
Very enjoyable video. I like budget pistols and the models made in Turkey seem to be pretty respectable. I have a couple Girsans and the quality is excellent. Looking forward to your next video.
That perfect "malfunction" using it the wrong way with the wrong mag inserted in is something to behold. All you gotta do is release the slide. Plus I bet that thing once properly broke-in (half a k rounds would do I guess, or even less) it wouldn't have any issue at all. Oh forgot, what a professional. Man yous two's aiming's proper! And I love the quality of the reviews and videos. Thank you, sir!
Outstanding test and way to pin down the exact issue. I would have no problem at all with that firearm, it ran great but for the one ammo type in the one mag, and ZERO feed or extracting issues, weird really that the 124Gr in the Glock mag would not cooperate. Regardless this is one I will have to pick up if I see it here in KY. Thanks for the great review!!!
It is weird and I wonder if a different brand of 124 grain FMJ ammo would have the same problem with the Glock magazine. I will eventually pinpoint the problem and then I will probably do another review showing the solution.
First off, thanks for always putting out Grrreat videos! Something to maybe look into. The Glock 9mm double column mags now have a total of 9 slightly different followers in them that I am aware of & I believe three variations on the mags & at least two 10 round only mags for the model 19. Although all seem to work well in any 9mm Glock (as far as I know). Your clone's magwell may have been designed slightly different & did not take all these Follower variations in mind. It may just be the specific Glock mag & or follower that you just happen to be using during filming. I think with the exception of Glock's very first 9mm mag follower, they all have a number molded into them at the top front, that you can readly see while looking straight down into the mag. Many but not all are interchangeable, as one of the changes glock made on the mags was the slight variation in the mag opening where the follower seats when empty. (The cuts on the lip where the followers seat varies slightly & not all followers will seat fully, leading to problems) Maybe switching to a brand new G19 mag that has a #6 #7 follower factory installed will solve the problem for you.
I bought one partly because of this video. No range time yet but the feel of the grip is great. Perfectly stippled on the front strap and back strap. Nice trigger pull with a short and tactical reset. Great fiber optic sights for daytime use. Completely Glock 19 compatible just in case. Love it so far.
Great review. Very well done, and whem I had questions about the feeding issue, you were ahead of me by trying just what I was thinking. Good photos from your Son as well.
Wow, I saw the same exact sales ad. I did a quick search for the GForce RPX9 and found this video at the top. To be fair, I have a Taurus G3c, so I'm not really in the market for something like this, but the price is not bad. To be honest, it would make a fairly solid back up sidearm.
I’ve had problems with that CCI Blazer 124 grain recently at the range using an ultra reliable M&P Shield that will eat anything else I feed it, including steel case Russian junk. I think it’s possible that CCI had some issues with recent production runs of their 124 grain.
You're a wise man. I want to like this pistol. When it shoots, it shoot amazing. It fits fantastic. But just like this video, the slide locking back is maddening. 30+ occurrences in my first 60 rounds. I purchased two Magpul magazines, which did a bit better, but still had the problem over the next 105 rounds. I reached out to GForce arms over a week ago, and have tried several times since, they have ignored me. I'm done with this boat anchor.
I appreciate the thoroughness of your testing and diagnosis regarding the slide lock issues. It seems to me that the Glock mags position the nose of the 124gr bullets just close enough to the slide lock tab to engage it. 115gr ammo of course has a smaller ogive to the bullet so they weren't "kissing" the slide stop tab. Just my "virtual" assessment.
My thoughts exactly. In the 1911-or-revolver days, this was a common problem with different bullet weights/styles, but this is the first time I've seen it limited to one mag type. With a 1911 one would trim the slide stop just a wee bit to allow the bullet to get by, but still let the follower hit it proper. In this case, I'd just use Magpul magazines, after making sure they run my preferred SD ammo of course. Those concerned about using found magazines in an emergency may think differently. Being able to use much cheaper reliable mags is a huge plus for first time buyers on the hot dog ramen diet. When asked what he recommended for first time buyers, hardcore 1911 guy Uncle Clint said with zero hesitation: "Glock 19, and 20 mags." As for recommending GForce, especially compared to a used Glock, I'll wait until we see some long-term testing. A lot of cheaper guns will work fine out of the box, but wear much faster than the bigger name brands.
I got a stoeger(Turkish)str9 and it's a Glock gen3 clone for $219. It has not had a malfunction and runs all ammo I put through it. Good video , I love budget options
But the Stoger mags are proprietary aren't they ? I don't know why they companies make these glock clones but then turn around and make the mags different or the internal parts are different or the slides aren't interchangeable ? I just picked this Gforce yesterday but haven't had a chance to go to the range yet... But yeah... from my understanding (I don't own a Glock) this Exodus RPX9 is fully compatible with all Glock 19 parts which is why I bought it.... I've been wanting a Glock but haven't been able to save up for one and seen this Gforce for $250 and pulled the trigger... lol👍
When that slide locks back, I would try dropping the slide release just to see if that wears in. Can't always expect the best from cheaper clone alternatives, but any gun should run regardless of price, especially in a situation where it's needed. I've heard of similar problems with people's PSA daggers, but I got lucky with mine and haven't had any issues whatsoever. Mileage always varies!
Just don't use the Glock mags with heavier bullets . Problem solved . It runs fine with it's own intended mag . If the Glock didn't run with the G-Force mags would you blame the Glock ?
Good morning Mixup 98 and, as always another excellent review from my fellow Nevadan ! I still think Polymer 80 has a better Glock clone than most companies and they are made in the good old USA ! Do a review of the polymer 80 Glock 19 clone and tell us what you think.
Ran into the slide locking back on a couple glocks and on some p80 builds. The fix for me was to just open the spring hoop up just a bit to give it a little more pressure. Not just a clone issue has happened on at least three of my glocks
@@mixup98 I will admit it was a more common issue on my builds. I found on those part of the issue was there was a shelf under the stop that was impeding it from going fully down just a little shave with razor knife or chisel cured the issue. Keep up the great work love the videos!
I think I'd go for the PSA Dagger, esp. considering they've always, always got good deals on them if I wanted a G19-Gen3 clone. I've only seen good reviews on them so far, especially on the newer models. I've seen GForce arms semi-auto shotguns reviewed before and those, surprisingly, seem to work quite well.
The same sporting goods retailer snagged me as well, due to the sale price that was offered. It finally arrived to my local store today. I can't wait to pick it up and try it out!
I just bought one of these today for my first gun. Now I have to wait 2 week to try it. Looks like I'll be very satisfied with it when I get to try it out. Thanks. Great review. Hard to figure out why it doesn't work well with a Glock magazine and heavier ammo.
Great review! I subscribed because I like the "no nonsense" approach and your willingness to try new firearms. Aside from the obvious price advantage, I would be interested in how this manufacturer handles longevity. Perhaps you might consider follow-up content after putting it through more rounds. I also notice a small difference in spring diameter (Glock appears heavier)... Not saying this equates to being "better", just an observation. It's usually the small details that end-up determining the success of a clone. $250 is an amazing deal, but only if everything holds together long-term. You know what they say about quality.... "You get what you pay for..." But who knows?? This company may be trying really hard to gain a following. Thanks for your reviews! 👍
Hello johng and thank you for subscribing to my channel. I will definitely do a follow-up review once I put several thousand rounds thru this pistol. Canik pistols, also made in Turkey, have been around for at least six years and they seem to be holding up very well and are quite popular. Thanks again.
@@mixup98 Thank you much! I didn't know that. I think it's great to have competition! My local Sportman's is selling this Exodus and I may just have to visit them soon! P.S. Thanks for reviewing accessories for these models also. It's nice to see real world reviews. 👍
Those were red-spotted toads. Found in the south-west deserts and in Mexico. I'm down by Kingman, AZ and occasionally see them when out exploring in my 4X4.
Another viewer also said they were red-spotted toads and I looked them up and sure enough...they are red-spotted toads. Thanks for watching my video and I appreciate the information.
Appears the aftermarket Glock prefers aftermarket magazines. That’s a good looking pistol but I would still pay and cry once for an original Glock for reliability.
Gives SCCY a good run for the money and probably good as the Taurus G3 models. I may have to get one since Glock magazines are everywhere. Looks like a BB pistol. Hello from Lubbock Texas again. 249 at Sportsman's Warehouse. Can even pay through sezzle in 4 payments.
You need to adjust or replace the slide stop or just the spring. I had the same exact issue on a different pistol based on a 3rd gen Glock and I solved the problem by replacing the spring that came on the pistol with a stock Glock spring. There was noticeably more tension on the glock, much higher quality spring. You also might want to check the pin that the spring sits under it could be out of alignment.
KCI makes original Glock magazines in their plant which started in the late 90's. Glock had a problem keeping up with producing their mags so they contracted KCI to help out.
Another excellent vid Mr.Mix! (no beam in, but I forgive you...) Never heard of this company/gun before so performance still unknown, but the price is sure good. I wonder how it compares with comparable budget guns S&W SD9VE and Ruger Security 9... Weird about Glock mags...
The new and improved S&W SD9 2.0 sells for $300 and I may review one in the near future. I did look at one last week but the pistol only comes with one magazine and extra mags cost 35-40 bucks! It would be a good comparison between the GForce and S&W pistol though.
Hey Mix and son great to see you guys. That gun is definitely worth a look at the mag thing no big deal have you tried hollow points in it just wondering. Anyway great review till next.
Nice video. It mirrors my experience, as my slide locks back as well. It is totally maddening. Even in a budget pistol, I shouldn't have to make sure I have the right combination of magazine and ammo for it to work. Heck, both of my $200 SCCY pistols are much more reliable than the RPX-9. To add insult to injury, GForce Arms refuses to answer my numerous phone calls or online service request. You are much more forgiving than me. 165 rounds into my RPX-9 experience, I'm about ready to get rid of it. Like yourself, I had a bit better luck with Magpul mags, but it still did it. I wouldn't recommend this pistol.
My Steel Challenge rig is a 19x Tactical with a Trijicon SRO & a compensator. It dosen't like 115 grain ammo at all, but it runs perfect with 124 & up ammo. That was the thing that really hammered home the difference in 124 & 115 for me.
I love good barging firearms. recently I came within a hair of buying a colt cobra. instead I bought two Taurus defender 605 in 357 and love them and well under the colt in price .I lost no sleep over my decision. I bought 8 Taurus/ rossi pistols/revolvers in through the years and everyone of them flawlessin operation ,accurate, reliable. there just as good as my higher value Revolvers/pistols. I definitely would buy another Taurus product. I would like to shoot your test pistol, I might get one like it. Papa wishing you well 😊
Nice review. Odd problem there. Don't recall ever seeing a Glock compatible that didn't run Glock magazines flawlessly. Ive never had much luck with the P-Mags which ship, or used to, with Shadow Systems devices. The dealer I got my MR-920 from suggested only using Glock factory magazines. Haven't had another issue in 2 years
All Glock branded Glock mags are not the same depending on when they were made. There have been several different subtle changes made by Glock over the years to their mags especially in the area of the follower. I have 3 original Glock mags for my Glock 23 40 S&W where the follower is of a different profile. Depending on when the Glock mag was made the follower can be of a different profile and that may allow the pistol you're shooting in the video to be either more or less reliable. In Europe the 124gr bullet is the most commonly used weight in 9mm and they are normally loaded pretty hot as NATO ammo is pretty hot so it should run that bullet weight but it may require a mag that it is compatible with to do it reliably.
Using Glock mags is always a winner. That’s one thing the Stoeger STR9 does wrong… not sure why that one Glock mag locked it back. Stiff springs? Hmm… great photography too!
Thank you for another great posting---I am on holiday in Puerto Rico; I just had to check in on you while on vacation. Great shootings videos, I can't do without.
Hello Paul. Good to hear from you and I hope you are enjoying your vacation. My wife and I were in Puerto Rico in March and we loved it there and hope to go back in the future.
NOOOOOOooooo! Don't shoot the Silvertip carry ammo in it. You need to save it for the Gold Mine Zombies!! That is a nice looking, well running pistol, especially at that price point! Good find. You two are coming up with some great content.
Thank you for the nice compliment Frank. We hope to keep making our videos during this excessive heat wave but things will slow way down in July and August.
I’m finding a lot of these Glock clones are actually pretty good. I have 5 Glocks and have bought a few Clones. I have to say I am pretty happy with the quality of a gun that cost half the price and they actually feel good in my hands too (better than my Glocks). The Stoeger STR9, Taurus GC3 and BRG9 Elite 4. All excellent clones and under $300. Great video
I like it, it shoots smooth, comfortable in the hands. You know what else is a great buy at $229.00? The BRG9 Elite 4" Barrel, Grip Safety, Trigger Safety, Ambi Mag Release, 2-16 Rd Mags. Very comfortable in the hands. Picked those 2 and a Taurus G3 from ClassicFirearms. All are great guns. I would actually buy another of the BRG9”. Has a really case with a pretty decent cleaning kit. Can’t beat the price because it’s currently on sale 😂
Really like that you review budget firearms. I'm not broke, but the reason is, I tend to pirchase budget friendly guns. Ruger, Canik, Heritage, and such. I may take a look at this one too. Thanks again!
The "branded" pistols are, generally speaking, overpriced. Especially in markets OUTSIDE the USA. In Europe, handguns are 20-50% more expensive; even the Turkish ones are more costly too! I'm a mechanical engineer (small arms major), and the price of a polymer is pretty much the same for Glocks, H&K's, S&W...
Yeah, there are different versions of polymers, but the price difference is negligible. The polymer chassis production costs are under $5. I believe that the whole production cost of a striker-fired polymer pistol should be under 80 USD. In Turkey, due to the low hourly wage, it is probably even under 50 USD. The most important parts of the pistol are the barrel, firing pin, and magazines.
Yes, slides (bolts) are important too, but if you'll experience any material problems, it's going to be on those parts that are exposed to blasts, mechanical shocks, and magazines. I have heard that Turks are buying barrels from Germany, so if true, the barrels are as good as the ones on Glock.
The Turks have one GREAT flaw: poor quality control and, thus, a poor brand image. Canik, in my opinion, has managed to improve even the brand-image part...
I don't think Ruger has been in the budget category in a very long time...if ever. With that said, back in the early '80s I remember their bolt-action rifles running about $80-$100 less than similar (comparable?) models from Winchester & Remington.
I really like Mixup’s “Every Mans” reviews for that reason. Guns most of us actually buy and own.
That was cool how you narrowed it down to that very specific problem. Photos were a neat touch lately.
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Every time I get close to getting a Glock clone, I just buy an LE trade-in Glock for the same price instead haha. Terrific video, sir!
Exactly, you can find LE trade in Glock 22's and 23's for $250 to $300 and then buy a 9mm conversion barrel and a couple of mags and be able to shoot both calibers for about $350 to $375 total. Or just pay $300 for the Glock 19 or 17 if 9mm is your thing.
Yup! Great advice here
The issue I have with ALL Glocks is the grip angle actually forces my hand to twist to the wrist in the direction of the small finger that I lose sensation in the hand. True from a G19 through a G41.
Most of the 'clones' don't have that sharp angle on the grip, so work far better for me.
I kept several Glocks for range days, but got rid of several because I honestly can't use them for carry if after 10 to 15 minutes I can't feel my hand.
I’m with you on that. But I did trade in my Glock 19 for an Sig P320 M17, which I carry… I just like having a manual safety. I’ll probably get a Glock 21 for the nightstand.
@@Swampytheroot exactly! I thought I was the only person who has that problem with Glocks.
Great video! Saying it is a G19 clone and then presenting a side by side comparison was excellent - and then you swapped the slide and confirmed fit, which did answer the question in my mind as you anticipated. Now the question for me is will I add one to my collection? Probably, especially at that price. Oh, I thoroughly enjoyed seeing your son's photographic work - it was a nice change of pace.
Thank you kindly for the feedback on my son's photographs and perhaps I will show more of his work in future videos.
I always like your shooting videos, but honestly, I didn't think there were frogs living in that area. That kinda surprised me. Seems your son knows something about photography also.
@@fokkerd3red618 I was informed by several viewers that the little critters are actually red spotted toads and not frogs. My son and I found toads in an old mine several years ago and maybe we will go back and see if they are still in there. Should make for an interesting video.
@@mixup98 every toad is a frog, but not every frog is a toad.
"Not so bad, eh?" Are you kidding? Your shooting was amazing, and the pistol performance was equally impressive! Very cool that you let your son post the photos. Those were very unusual looking frogs. Thanks for what you do!
It just doesn't like Glock mags
Always fun spending time with you guys. Great review, comedy and camaraderie.
Hello Sir!! Man that first target you popped was magic; that 2 inch group mag dump.....you're good! Anyways, I'm kinda scratching my bald head on the Glock mag slide lock issue. But that said, Now I want to go get me one of those pistols. :) Good to see you two today!! Blessins to yas
What a great deal at $249, accurate and reliable. Thanks for sharing.
Our pleasure!
My experience with the RPX-9 has been frustrating. Accurate, yes. Reliable, heck no. Slide locks just like this video shows. Add to this GForce's customer service is non-existent. Magpul mags do a bit better, but this is still not a reliable platform.
Glock mag was like… This isn’t my home!
“What the heck am I doing in this thing?” 😅
You look like my mother, but I reckon you're an imposter...
Very well said!!! LOL
Another informative video!
The kid should show more of his pictures, nice addition.
Keep up the good work Mix Up and son.
More to come!
The Kid sounds more accurate. 😊
Edit: Ed, have any of your photos/images been published, or included in a public display?
Thank you for these videos. I absolutely decided to buy Rock Island M206 snubby after watching your videos on it. Best $200 bucks I ever spent. I usually don't buy the budget brand firearms but watching your videos and Hickock45 and Big Daddy Hoffman's videos has changed my mind on certain budget guns on more than one occasion. So thanks to you and your son and that was some amazing photography.
It's easy to sell a cheap gun when you have no R&D department, said the Clone CEO. Another enjoyable video and great photography by your son. He shoots well with a camera and a firearm 👍
Well I just bought the GForce Exodus... I've been wanting a Glock because of the redundancy it offers with my Ruger PC Carbine ammo and magazines... but haven't been able save up for one with the way the world is...
I thought this over the PSA Dagger because of various reasons... $250 is worth a shot.
Thanks again for your top notch review, and as always God bless you, your son and entire family.
Enjoying this video while sipping a Cognac and cleaning my pistols. Cheers!
Sipping a Cognac while watching our video is pretty damn cool....thank you Mike.
That $99 Glock Performance trigger is the most worthwhile upgrade.
Having a ~3.5lb crisp trigger pull is what Glock was always missing.
@@pewpewTN can you tell me which exact one to get? I have this gun and want to upgrade the trigger
@@JRNY87 I'm not 100% sure on the compatibility with this one.
If I had to guess, I'd look for a trigger that fits a Gen 3 Glock since that's what most of these clones are copying.
I like a good bargain! I have a Beretta APX (Brazilian LE surplus NIB unissued) coming - $299 from AIM Surplus. If we lived close, I'd bring it to you to try out. All of the reviews are great for this pistol and like you, I just find it hard to pass up a bargain like that. Thanks for another great vid! I always like to see your son in these with you. I enjoy the bug and frog stills too. He needs to do his own YT channel with bugs and frogs and the like - dessert critters.
Wow, a Beretta APX new in the box for $299......I'm jealous! My son takes beautiful photos and he has won several photo contests. Maybe he should do a few instructional videos here on youtube but in the meantime I will keep showing his photos in my video reviews. 👍😎
Just wanted to give you a thanks. I watched this video and decided I had to add this to my collection and for the price and the features it's a win win!!! Like your videos keep them coming and it's hot in texas too.....
Hello Bryan. Thank you for tsking the time to watch and comment on my video. Stay cool in Texas and Happy 4th of July!!!
Always something new..thanks 😊😊😊
Like the brush your teeth and clean your gun, the photos are fantastic. Helpful info on the pistol. Thanks
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Would like to see how it performs with 147-grain. BTW, your Son's pics are, Amazing!
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I have one and that's what it likes.
Great review on the G.Force RPX9!!. Regarding the slide release issue, I had the very same slide release (Glock OEM), with same problem, specifically when I shot Major Power Factor (~177 - ish) handloads in USPSA / IDPA Comp several years ago. Quite simple solution indeed: Carefully uninstall it, then 'straighten' its return spring some 35° degrees, (Harder to operate), and presto. Most my Glocks had the 3.5 lb connector + Lightning Strike Titanium striker + some surface honing + a couple Custom fitted, FULLY supported bbls to avoid higher pressure handloads' issues Thanks for sharing your kid's photographic Masterpieces, which are absolutely gorgeous showing our Almighty Lord's🙏 supreme job regarding our Wildlife & beautiful Outdoors!!.🏆.
So many thanks & Blessings to you both for your truly dedicated / professional work!. 😊🇺🇸💪🙏🙏🙏🙏
Picked one up Friday, can't wait to run it through the paces. Well I took it to the range the next day and ran 8 magazines through it and had issues, now I didn't clean it before hand . I have since cleaned and took it back to the range and ran 13 more magazines through it and only ran into issues towards the end of the last magazine it started having the same issues of not going into battery.
So had it at the range ran about 150 rounds, used blazer brass 124 grain. Ran good did have about 15 issues requiring tapping the back of the slide into battery.
Took it to the range , ran 150 rounds through it , had 15 times where it didn't go into battery
I've sent 160 rounds downrange over 2 visits, numerous occurrences of not going into battery., even with Magpul mags. This gun is a dud, and GForce doesn't support their product.
Great shootin', as always!💯💥👍!
Wow Ray i never thought abought a bigger grain bullet making your gun jam,,,,, Slide lock back!!!! I learn some-thing new every time i watch your videos!!!! Thanks to you and your son!!!
Hello Mike. I've been shooting fifty years and I still learn something new almost every time I get to the range. Always good to hear from you.
You said it.. win win. Now they just need to offer a 10mm mos. for half the price of a Glock mod 40. 36 rounds of reliable shots from the factory mag. should be plenty, unless you are a 2023 LEO. That was a dig on those that fired over 50rnds at a perp. I appreciate our LEO's and they know it.
@@IronsitePistols you must not be over 62.
I had my local gun store order me one from their distributor. Picked it up for $246.00. Took it to the range today and fired about 100 rounds with no problems. It even felt like I was shooting a G19. At that price, I'm very pleased with this purchase. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
You are very welcome and I thank you for watching my video.
Very enjoyable video. I like budget pistols and the models made in Turkey seem to be pretty respectable. I have a couple Girsans and the quality is excellent. Looking forward to your next video.
I hope to review a Girsan 1911 in a future video. 👍😎
That perfect "malfunction" using it the wrong way with the wrong mag inserted in is something to behold. All you gotta do is release the slide. Plus I bet that thing once properly broke-in (half a k rounds would do I guess, or even less) it wouldn't have any issue at all.
Oh forgot, what a professional. Man yous two's aiming's proper! And I love the quality of the reviews and videos. Thank you, sir!
Outstanding test and way to pin down the exact issue. I would have no problem at all with that firearm, it ran great but for the one ammo type in the one mag, and ZERO feed or extracting issues, weird really that the 124Gr in the Glock mag would not cooperate. Regardless this is one I will have to pick up if I see it here in KY. Thanks for the great review!!!
It is weird and I wonder if a different brand of 124 grain FMJ ammo would have the same problem with the Glock magazine. I will eventually pinpoint the problem and then I will probably do another review showing the solution.
Honest and fair review. I love the relationship between father and son. Reminds me of and my relationship with my sons.
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First off, thanks for always putting out Grrreat videos! Something to maybe look into. The Glock 9mm double column mags now have a total of 9 slightly different followers in them that I am aware of & I believe three variations on the mags & at least two 10 round only mags for the model 19. Although all seem to work well in any 9mm Glock (as far as I know). Your clone's magwell may have been designed slightly different & did not take all these Follower variations in mind. It may just be the specific Glock mag & or follower that you just happen to be using during filming. I think with the exception of Glock's very first 9mm mag follower, they all have a number molded into them at the top front, that you can readly see while looking straight down into the mag. Many but not all are interchangeable, as one of the changes glock made on the mags was the slight variation in the mag opening where the follower seats when empty. (The cuts on the lip where the followers seat varies slightly & not all followers will seat fully, leading to problems) Maybe switching to a brand new G19 mag that has a #6 #7 follower factory installed will solve the problem for you.
I bought one partly because of this video. No range time yet but the feel of the grip is great. Perfectly stippled on the front strap and back strap. Nice trigger pull with a short and tactical reset. Great fiber optic sights for daytime use. Completely Glock 19 compatible just in case. Love it so far.
Great review. Very well done, and whem I had questions about the feeding issue, you were ahead of me by trying just what I was thinking. Good photos from your Son as well.
Anything better than a Glock...Very nice gun and review Mixup....Like that gun, might check into this a bit more.
Wow, I saw the same exact sales ad. I did a quick search for the GForce RPX9 and found this video at the top. To be fair, I have a Taurus G3c, so I'm not really in the market for something like this, but the price is not bad. To be honest, it would make a fairly solid back up sidearm.
Hello DesertMav. I also own a Taurus G3c, which I really like, and I may compare it against the Exodus in a future video.
Picked one up today at that price , great video and insight on the exodus good stuff 👍
Hello Edgar. Please give us your thoughts after shooting your new pistol.
I’ve had problems with that CCI Blazer 124 grain recently at the range using an ultra reliable M&P Shield that will eat anything else I feed it, including steel case Russian junk. I think it’s possible that CCI had some issues with recent production runs of their 124 grain.
Interesting, I personally stay away from any G-force product but you broke my arm, just might pick one up hahah. Thanks and take care !
You're a wise man. I want to like this pistol. When it shoots, it shoot amazing. It fits fantastic. But just like this video, the slide locking back is maddening. 30+ occurrences in my first 60 rounds. I purchased two Magpul magazines, which did a bit better, but still had the problem over the next 105 rounds. I reached out to GForce arms over a week ago, and have tried several times since, they have ignored me. I'm done with this boat anchor.
I appreciate the thoroughness of your testing and diagnosis regarding the slide lock issues. It seems to me that the Glock mags position the nose of the 124gr bullets just close enough to the slide lock tab to engage it. 115gr ammo of course has a smaller ogive to the bullet so they weren't "kissing" the slide stop tab. Just my "virtual" assessment.
You may be on to something. I will take off the slide, put a few rounds in a magazine, and see how close the ogive is to the slide lock tab.
My thoughts exactly.
In the 1911-or-revolver days, this was a common problem with different bullet weights/styles, but this is the first time I've seen it limited to one mag type. With a 1911 one would trim the slide stop just a wee bit to allow the bullet to get by, but still let the follower hit it proper. In this case, I'd just use Magpul magazines, after making sure they run my preferred SD ammo of course. Those concerned about using found magazines in an emergency may think differently. Being able to use much cheaper reliable mags is a huge plus for first time buyers on the hot dog ramen diet. When asked what he recommended for first time buyers, hardcore 1911 guy Uncle Clint said with zero hesitation: "Glock 19, and 20 mags."
As for recommending GForce, especially compared to a used Glock, I'll wait until we see some long-term testing. A lot of cheaper guns will work fine out of the box, but wear much faster than the bigger name brands.
Turkish Arms manufacturers are competing hard against Taurus.
It's a race to the bottom.
@@PassivePortfoliosat least the bottom of the barrel has been becoming slightly higher over time
from what i see the price/quality is there!! why pay for a Farrari when a Chevy is just as good and a damn sight cheaper?
They're exceeding Taurus.
@@keithmoore5306 Rather have a Ferrari..and a Glock 19.
Heck of a review. At that price every law abiding citizen should have one and train with it.
Appreciate your great video reviews! Keep them coming!
Thanks, will do!
I’ve never heard of that brand before, looks like I need to check it out!
GForce is an American importer. The pistol is made by Radikal Arms in Turkey.
Favorite channel! Been here since that Smith 586. Gotta show my wife your cave zombie video tomorrow. Keep on rockin Sir!
Awesome! Thank you and tell your wife that my son and I said "hi". 👍😎 😎👍
@@mixup98 will do!
I got a stoeger(Turkish)str9 and it's a Glock gen3 clone for $219. It has not had a malfunction and runs all ammo I put through it. Good video , I love budget options
But the Stoger mags are proprietary aren't they ? I don't know why they companies make these glock clones but then turn around and make the mags different or the internal parts are different or the slides aren't interchangeable ?
I just picked this Gforce yesterday but haven't had a chance to go to the range yet... But yeah... from my understanding (I don't own a Glock) this Exodus RPX9 is fully compatible with all Glock 19 parts which is why I bought it.... I've been wanting a Glock but haven't been able to save up for one and seen this Gforce for $250 and pulled the trigger... lol👍
Great video. I have not heard of these. Seems like a good value. Thank as always.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the review! You guys always do an excellent job and I love the fun format!! 😊
Peepers is what I call those little toads. Yes he should have a channel for his micro photography.
Oh my God! I'm 69 years old and when I was a little dinky kid I had a toy frog called Mr peepers... You really put a smile on my face thank you
When that slide locks back, I would try dropping the slide release just to see if that wears in. Can't always expect the best from cheaper clone alternatives, but any gun should run regardless of price, especially in a situation where it's needed. I've heard of similar problems with people's PSA daggers, but I got lucky with mine and haven't had any issues whatsoever. Mileage always varies!
Just don't use the Glock mags with heavier bullets . Problem solved . It runs fine with it's own intended mag . If the Glock didn't run with the G-Force mags would you blame the Glock ?
@@MichaelBoldyga definitely a good point too
Good morning Mixup 98 and, as always another excellent review from my fellow Nevadan ! I still think Polymer 80 has a better Glock clone than most companies and they are made in the good old USA ! Do a review of the polymer 80 Glock 19 clone and tell us what you think.
If I can get my hands on a Polymer 80 Glock 19 clone I will definitely do a shooting review on it. Thanks for the suggestion.
Seems like a winner. The animal photography keeps getting better
Ran into the slide locking back on a couple glocks and on some p80 builds. The fix for me was to just open the spring hoop up just a bit to give it a little more pressure. Not just a clone issue has happened on at least three of my glocks
Thanks for the advice on the slide stop spring. I've never had this happen to any of my Glock pistols.
@@mixup98 I will admit it was a more common issue on my builds. I found on those part of the issue was there was a shelf under the stop that was impeding it from going fully down just a little shave with razor knife or chisel cured the issue. Keep up the great work love the videos!
That little cleaning kit is a nice addition, and has plenty of room for some oil and cloth, and whatever else you could fit in there.
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I think I'd go for the PSA Dagger, esp. considering they've always, always got good deals on them if I wanted a G19-Gen3 clone. I've only seen good reviews on them so far, especially on the newer models. I've seen GForce arms semi-auto shotguns reviewed before and those, surprisingly, seem to work quite well.
The same sporting goods retailer snagged me as well, due to the sale price that was offered. It finally arrived to my local store today. I can't wait to pick it up and try it out!
I just bought one of these today for my first gun. Now I have to wait 2 week to try it. Looks like I'll be very satisfied with it when I get to try it out. Thanks. Great review. Hard to figure out why it doesn't work well with a Glock magazine and heavier ammo.
Thanks for this video. Love the content.
I'm going to get it.. Love the review. Thank you guys.
You are vey welcome 👍😎😎👍
Great demo of an affordable pistol!
I'm sold. Nice review.
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My stoeger micro9 compact and Sar 9 have run flawless for me.
Great review! I subscribed because I like the "no nonsense" approach and your willingness to try new firearms. Aside from the obvious price advantage, I would be interested in how this manufacturer handles longevity. Perhaps you might consider follow-up content after putting it through more rounds. I also notice a small difference in spring diameter (Glock appears heavier)...
Not saying this equates to being "better", just an observation. It's usually the small details that end-up determining the success of a clone. $250 is an amazing deal, but only if everything holds together long-term. You know what they say about quality.... "You get what you pay for..." But who knows?? This company may be trying really hard to gain a following. Thanks for your reviews!
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Hello johng and thank you for subscribing to my channel. I will definitely do a follow-up review once I put several thousand rounds thru this pistol. Canik pistols, also made in Turkey, have been around for at least six years and they seem to be holding up very well and are quite popular. Thanks again.
@@mixup98 Thank you much! I didn't know that. I think it's great to have competition!
My local Sportman's is selling this Exodus and I may just have to visit them soon!
P.S. Thanks for reviewing accessories for these models also. It's nice to see real world reviews.
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Those were red-spotted toads. Found in the south-west deserts and in Mexico. I'm down by Kingman, AZ and occasionally see them when out exploring in my 4X4.
Another viewer also said they were red-spotted toads and I looked them up and sure enough...they are red-spotted toads. Thanks for watching my video and I appreciate the information.
Appears the aftermarket Glock prefers aftermarket magazines. That’s a good looking pistol but I would still pay and cry once for an original Glock for reliability.
Gives SCCY a good run for the money and probably good as the Taurus G3 models. I may have to get one since Glock magazines are everywhere. Looks like a BB pistol. Hello from Lubbock Texas again. 249 at Sportsman's Warehouse. Can even pay through sezzle in 4 payments.
This is my preferred kind of Science. 😊
Experimentation, Trial & Error.
Taurus G3 Series is ALSO Terrific! 😊
I own three Taurus G3 series pistols and I will compare the G3c to the GForce Exodus in a future video.
Let’s not forget Charter Arms and Sharp Sticks, both overlooked defense weapons that work sometimes
What sold me was the guts of the gun. I was in awe at how closely it looks like a GLOCK. I'm sold.
Glock lost the patent so the internals are all the same. I have a PSA Dagger.. Glock reliability that is cheaper and I like the ergonomics way better.
Thanks, one of your best reviews
I appreciate that!
You need to adjust or replace the slide stop or just the spring. I had the same exact issue on a different pistol based on a 3rd gen Glock and I solved the problem by replacing the spring that came on the pistol with a stock Glock spring. There was noticeably more tension on the glock, much higher quality spring. You also might want to check the pin that the spring sits under it could be out of alignment.
$250 for a brand new gun is definitely interesting. Great pics by your son. Can we see more of them?
My son takes photos almost every time we get outdoors to shoot a video and from now on I will try to include his photos in our video.
You make some really good content I’m glad i stumbled upon your channel you sir have earned my subscription
KCI makes original Glock magazines in their plant which started in the late 90's. Glock had a problem keeping up with producing their mags so they contracted KCI to help out.
Thank you for that review
Well done. Excellent and informative video. I was about to drop 200 bucks on an upper complete slide for my Glock 17 . Better deal.
Looks like a Budget & Reliable hand gun for home & personal daily carry defense ....
Great macro skills, those are some nice pics.
Glad you like them.....thanks! 👍😎
Seems like a good side, arm, and at a great price !
That “yup” hits hard
Good stuff. We appreciate ya sir! Blessings your way.
Thank you majorpayne and it is always good to hear from you.
Another excellent vid Mr.Mix! (no beam in, but I forgive you...) Never heard of this company/gun before so performance still unknown, but the price is sure good. I wonder how it compares with comparable budget guns S&W SD9VE and Ruger Security 9... Weird about Glock mags...
The new and improved S&W SD9 2.0 sells for $300 and I may review one in the near future. I did look at one last week but the pistol only comes with one magazine and extra mags cost 35-40 bucks! It would be a good comparison between the GForce and S&W pistol though.
Hey Mix and son great to see you guys. That gun is definitely worth a look at the mag thing no big deal have you tried hollow points in it just wondering. Anyway great review till next.
Great shooting by you and your son. Great review.
Nice video. It mirrors my experience, as my slide locks back as well. It is totally maddening. Even in a budget pistol, I shouldn't have to make sure I have the right combination of magazine and ammo for it to work. Heck, both of my $200 SCCY pistols are much more reliable than the RPX-9. To add insult to injury, GForce Arms refuses to answer my numerous phone calls or online service request. You are much more forgiving than me. 165 rounds into my RPX-9 experience, I'm about ready to get rid of it. Like yourself, I had a bit better luck with Magpul mags, but it still did it. I wouldn't recommend this pistol.
Had a feeling it was the 124 grain ammo!
My Steel Challenge rig is a 19x Tactical with a Trijicon SRO & a compensator.
It dosen't like 115 grain ammo at all, but it runs perfect with 124 & up ammo.
That was the thing that really hammered home the difference in 124 & 115 for me.
I love good barging firearms. recently I came within a hair of buying a colt cobra. instead I bought two Taurus defender 605 in 357 and love them and well under the colt in price .I lost no sleep over my decision. I bought 8 Taurus/ rossi pistols/revolvers in through the years and everyone of them flawlessin operation ,accurate, reliable. there just as good as my higher value Revolvers/pistols. I definitely would buy another Taurus product. I would like to shoot your test pistol, I might get one like it. Papa wishing you well 😊
Nice review. Odd problem there. Don't recall ever seeing a Glock compatible that didn't run Glock magazines flawlessly. Ive never had much luck with the P-Mags which ship, or used to, with Shadow Systems devices. The dealer I got my MR-920 from suggested only using Glock factory magazines. Haven't had another issue in 2 years
All Glock branded Glock mags are not the same depending on when they were made. There have been several different subtle changes made by Glock over the years to their mags especially in the area of the follower. I have 3 original Glock mags for my Glock 23 40 S&W where the follower is of a different profile. Depending on when the Glock mag was made the follower can be of a different profile and that may allow the pistol you're shooting in the video to be either more or less reliable.
In Europe the 124gr bullet is the most commonly used weight in 9mm and they are normally loaded pretty hot as NATO ammo is pretty hot so it should run that bullet weight but it may require a mag that it is compatible with to do it reliably.
With the flared magazine well the glock 17 mags are perfect!
great Fan.The turks were under license from HK.A few years later.They did a tuarus on them.What you have is a copy off a HK v9.Thank You.Great Vidio
Using Glock mags is always a winner. That’s one thing the Stoeger STR9 does wrong… not sure why that one Glock mag locked it back. Stiff springs? Hmm… great photography too!
Wish my newly acquired Glock 49 had those nice sights!
Thank you for another great posting---I am on holiday in Puerto Rico; I just had to check in on you while on vacation. Great shootings videos, I can't do without.
Hello Paul. Good to hear from you and I hope you are enjoying your vacation. My wife and I were in Puerto Rico in March and we loved it there and hope to go back in the future.
NOOOOOOooooo! Don't shoot the Silvertip carry ammo in it. You need to save it for the Gold Mine Zombies!!
That is a nice looking, well running pistol, especially at that price point! Good find.
You two are coming up with some great content.
Thank you for the nice compliment Frank. We hope to keep making our videos during this excessive heat wave but things will slow way down in July and August.
I like it ! Price is right too !
How do you think it compares to Taurus G2 or G3C or G3 which is probably more in line with size ?
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Excellent question and I'm hoping to do a comparison video between the Taurus G3c and the GForce pistol in the near future.
It appears to be a pretty good banger for the price. Nice one.
I’m finding a lot of these Glock clones are actually pretty good. I have 5 Glocks and have bought a few Clones. I have to say I am pretty happy with the quality of a gun that cost half the price and they actually feel good in my hands too (better than my Glocks). The Stoeger STR9, Taurus GC3 and BRG9 Elite 4. All excellent clones and under $300. Great video
How do you like the stoeger so far?? I'm thinking about getting one
I like it, it shoots smooth, comfortable in the hands. You know what else is a great buy at $229.00? The BRG9 Elite 4" Barrel, Grip Safety, Trigger Safety, Ambi Mag Release, 2-16 Rd Mags. Very comfortable in the hands. Picked those 2 and a Taurus G3 from ClassicFirearms. All are great guns. I would actually buy another of the BRG9”. Has a really case with a pretty decent cleaning kit. Can’t beat the price because it’s currently on sale 😂