Interesting Content thanks. Just be mindful that the reflected radiant heat from the bottom of the pot also adds to the gassing rate of the fuel. Increasing the burn rate and times. Hence the quarter simmer ring usually stay lit and all cooking times are much quicker in my experience. Bit of a story but in attempt to regulate heat to cook bread and make toast I strategically arranged some metal gauge mesh across the Trangia 27 After about 5 mins I was impressed with what I had achieved. After 6 mins the red glow of the gauge mesh created a pre combustion chamber for an after burner . I had a three foot flame off the top of the stove. The wind shield was whistling air through it and I was fending the flames from the kitchen roof in a pre camp trial. It took about 2 mins to burn the remaining liquid fuel with a brilliant blue after burner , like a F18 hornet. I now use a gas flame for baking and toasting bread. Stay safe people. It is all fun until the physics alters your reality..
i have used the simmer ring at 1/4 open. Some pasta recipes require a 5-7min simmer period after boiling the water. So the trangia is already real hot when using the ring at 1/4 open.
Always heard about filling up that high was no good,but those times you gave are amazing! 8 hrs?Need to make some home tests.Realize was closed in,but still...🤠🇺🇲
😂 You have wayyyyy too much time on your hands my friend, btw i want to see you in a lab coat when next you undertake a similar experiment 😊. Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪.
Stepping away from my old job has now allowed me to spend way too much time making videos, lol. That's a cool idea with the lab coat😊. It's great to see comments from across the seas. I really enjoyed communicating with your fellow comrade, Patrick, from Kelly Kettle. ✌️😊
Yes, this was really interesting! I tended to use the simmerring half way or a quarter (I think you did less than a quarter when it exthinguished). From now on I will start using it more fully open.
Thank you for doing this test. It is invaluable! I'd heard that the Trangia simmered well but I have yet to build any experience with using my Trangia. I tend to cook on the fire and so far have just used it to boil water for coffee while starting the fire in the morning. During a recent power cut my inexperience showed, when attempting serious cooking on the Trangi--I had no 'feel' for temperature control. I was interested to see how much difference the simmer ring made even when fully open.
👍👍👍 .. good info, thanks. A half-open simmer ring will bring water to a boil. I haven't timed it, but then, I'm in no hurry and it does not appear take that much longer. Once my Trangia Mini 28 is in full cry, an almost-closed simmer ring will continue to burn. Sensitive to wind though.
I've managed burn times of around 2 hours with 60mils of fuel and the simmer ring 3 quarters closed. Good for slow cooking purposes! I've never tried it with the burner filled to the brim though. I would be concerned about the potential for flaring up if used outdoors in hot and/or windy weather. However, these sort of times do indicate that a Trangia with simmer ring in proper use can compete with gas canister stoves any day!
Thank you for sharing 😊. That is a good effort of 2 hours @ 3/4 closed. You are right about potential flare-ups in hot/ windy weather. I keep going back and forth between gas and alcohol but it's great to be able to have options.
I'm surprised you weren't able to sustain a flame with the simmer ring 3/4 closed. I use it like that quite often without any issues. Sometimes I have it barely open at all and it burns just fine. Though I usually throw the simmer ring on well after the burner has had time to heat up.
You are right. Once the burner has warmed up, it's almost impossible to extinguish without a well fitting cap, as I have found trying to extinguish the Goshawk.
@@bushgearreview no worries... I love using my trangia 27.. I baught some camping pots n pans off the internet and amunst them came an old 1950s/ 60s boxed trangia... I got some upgrades... keeping the old stuff safe.. now I can't stop using it. All my other stoves are just collecting dust these days .. much lighter stoves, faster stoves, smaller stoves.. I will always use my simmer ring for more than extinguishing the flame now... because of your test.
@@bushgearreview I already had one of those fake Chinese trangia type burners... because the quality and attention to detail is not there it is a bit lighter.. I never use it now. Though if trangia did a titanium burner I would try it.. I would use the titanium body and wind guard. Though not the skillet or pots.. I don't like the way titanium fails to transfer the heat.
I agree in regards to titanium not transferring the heat. Also, carbon soot build-up on pots can be a hindrance to heat transfer. What windguards/pot stands do you use with your Trangia?
That was a good test. Do you ever a actually put in 100+ ml? Another test might be a boil test with simmer ring and without for a cup of water. Cheers 😊
Wow! I am impressed! To be able to cook for more than 4 hours in a single fill is insane! As long as you are patient and are prepared not to have the super quick boil times that many gas stoved deliver, this makes for a very cost effective cook system. Thanks for the video. 👍🫡
@bushgearreview Sure, but even allowing for variables it makes for an economic way to cook. I have 6 different options for mobile cooking besides a camp-fire, but I have gone away from metho stoves. But I will have to reconsider now. 😁
They are pretty good run times for only 20 mils 👍🏼 and when full as well
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The 4 hour runtime half closed was impressive, I never would have thought.
This is super interesting!
Very, very useful information. Have not seen anything like this before.
Wow you are a patient man…great video and informative…Have fun stay safe.
Thankyou.
Fortunately, for the long tests, I was editing nearby at the same time😊.
Very interesting definitely keeping my trangia
Wow and wow! Excellent video! Great to know the long burn time with 115 ml and the half open simmer ring. Plenty of time to keep something warm!
great vid - very helpful - thanks from germany, black forest 😃
Danke Schon 😊
Interesting Content thanks. Just be mindful that the reflected radiant heat from the bottom of the pot also adds to the gassing rate of the fuel. Increasing the burn rate and times. Hence the quarter simmer ring usually stay lit and all cooking times are much quicker in my experience.
Bit of a story but in attempt to regulate heat to cook bread and make toast I strategically arranged some metal gauge mesh across the Trangia 27
After about 5 mins I was impressed with what I had achieved. After 6 mins the red glow of the gauge mesh created a pre combustion chamber for an after burner .
I had a three foot flame off the top of the stove. The wind shield was whistling air through it and I was fending the flames from the kitchen roof in a pre camp trial.
It took about 2 mins to burn the remaining liquid fuel with a brilliant blue after burner , like a F18 hornet.
I now use a gas flame for baking and toasting bread.
Stay safe people. It is all fun until the physics alters your reality..
Thanks for sharing your story. 😊
What do you use for baking your bread?
i have used the simmer ring at 1/4 open. Some pasta recipes require a 5-7min simmer period after boiling the water. So the trangia is already real hot when using the ring at 1/4 open.
That was really interesting and informative - thank you for doing this and posting it!
No problems, thanks 😊
Nice test. I wish more alcohol stoves had simmer rings.
make your own.
@apistosig4173 I have now
top video - informative - well narrated - well done - thank you so much for taking the time to do this - cheers again
Thank-you 😉
The learning point is, you need the simmering ring. Some versions of the Trangia don't have it.
Always heard about filling up that high was no good,but those times you gave are amazing! 8 hrs?Need to make some home tests.Realize was closed in,but still...🤠🇺🇲
😂 You have wayyyyy too much time on your hands my friend, btw i want to see you in a lab coat when next you undertake a similar experiment 😊. Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪.
Stepping away from my old job has now allowed me to spend way too much time making videos, lol. That's a cool idea with the lab coat😊. It's great to see comments from across the seas. I really enjoyed communicating with your fellow comrade, Patrick, from Kelly Kettle. ✌️😊
@bushgearreview Great videos Patrick, keep them coming and by the way i have just subscribed 😀.
My name is Matt😊.
Thanks for the subscribe 😊
Yes, this was really interesting! I tended to use the simmerring half way or a quarter (I think you did less than a quarter when it exthinguished). From now on I will start using it more fully open.
The more I use alcohol stoves, the more I like them😊
Cool, thanks. Even though the full may have been over filled some.
Thanks this handy info.
No problems 😊
The results surprised me
Thank you for doing this test. It is invaluable!
I'd heard that the Trangia simmered well but I have yet to build any experience with using my Trangia. I tend to cook on the fire and so far have just used it to boil water for coffee while starting the fire in the morning. During a recent power cut my inexperience showed, when attempting serious cooking on the Trangi--I had no 'feel' for temperature control.
I was interested to see how much difference the simmer ring made even when fully open.
You are welcome.😊 Good luck in future cook ups.
👍👍👍 .. good info, thanks.
A half-open simmer ring will bring water to a boil. I haven't timed it, but then, I'm in no hurry and it does not appear take that much longer.
Once my Trangia Mini 28 is in full cry, an almost-closed simmer ring will continue to burn. Sensitive to wind though.
This is true. Once these different types of burners heat up, they can be tricky to extinguish.
@@bushgearreview Yep .. the Simmer Ring / Snuff Cap, followed by a wet face cloth to cool everything down before handling / refilling.
@@thomasmusso1147 I have to make a note on putting a face cloth in kit.🙂
Great video, thank you very much
Thankyou🙂
I've managed burn times of around 2 hours with 60mils of fuel and the simmer ring 3 quarters closed. Good for slow cooking purposes! I've never tried it with the burner filled to the brim though. I would be concerned about the potential for flaring up if used outdoors in hot and/or windy weather. However, these sort of times do indicate that a Trangia with simmer ring in proper use can compete with gas canister stoves any day!
Thank you for sharing 😊.
That is a good effort of 2 hours @ 3/4 closed. You are right about potential flare-ups in hot/ windy weather.
I keep going back and forth between gas and alcohol but it's great to be able to have options.
Useful information thanks 👍
No problems 😊
great video, useful info
I'm surprised you weren't able to sustain a flame with the simmer ring 3/4 closed. I use it like that quite often without any issues. Sometimes I have it barely open at all and it burns just fine. Though I usually throw the simmer ring on well after the burner has had time to heat up.
You are right. Once the burner has warmed up, it's almost impossible to extinguish without a well fitting cap, as I have found trying to extinguish the Goshawk.
Great!! Well done an actual good test...
Thankyou😊
@@bushgearreview no worries... I love using my trangia 27.. I baught some camping pots n pans off the internet and amunst them came an old 1950s/ 60s boxed trangia... I got some upgrades... keeping the old stuff safe.. now I can't stop using it. All my other stoves are just collecting dust these days .. much lighter stoves, faster stoves, smaller stoves.. I will always use my simmer ring for more than extinguishing the flame now... because of your test.
The Trangia is hard to beat.
Imagine a Titanium Trangia.😊
@@bushgearreview I already had one of those fake Chinese trangia type burners... because the quality and attention to detail is not there it is a bit lighter.. I never use it now. Though if trangia did a titanium burner I would try it.. I would use the titanium body and wind guard. Though not the skillet or pots.. I don't like the way titanium fails to transfer the heat.
I agree in regards to titanium not transferring the heat. Also, carbon soot build-up on pots can be a hindrance to heat transfer.
What windguards/pot stands do you use with your Trangia?
That was a good test.
Do you ever a actually put in 100+ ml?
Another test might be a boil test with simmer ring and without for a cup of water.
Cheers 😊
I have loaded up full a few times when doing big cook ups.
I could do a short vid for 1 cup 1 day😊
cool
It would be great in a chaffing dish if you could guarantee it would not be knocked over and spill flames everywere.
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Wow! I am impressed! To be able to cook for more than 4 hours in a single fill is insane! As long as you are patient and are prepared not to have the super quick boil times that many gas stoved deliver, this makes for a very cost effective cook system. Thanks for the video. 👍🫡
Depending on your situation in regards to wind influence.😊
@bushgearreview Sure, but even allowing for variables it makes for an economic way to cook. I have 6 different options for mobile cooking besides a camp-fire, but I have gone away from metho stoves. But I will have to reconsider now. 😁
I hear you in regards to different cooking options. I tend to fixated on one method for a while and then jump to another. 😊