C9 is Back! The race for the LCS title and... Skarner | The Dive

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  • @uhmareikuh
    @uhmareikuh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +379

    Meteos has been incredible for the dive.

    • @Bryan-p8u
      @Bryan-p8u 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Disagree he should be replaced

    • @Fidilisfool
      @Fidilisfool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Couldn’t agree more. I have never watched his stream but he balances out the dive really well. They have a great dynamic.

    • @Elessar_Telcontar
      @Elessar_Telcontar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Agreed. It’s been fun to listen to him.

    • @BucsFanO22
      @BucsFanO22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Bryan-p8uclassic response from some child with this kind of username

    • @jacobcook7019
      @jacobcook7019 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have never heard this sentiment from anyone else, he seems amazing and as much as I loved having Mark, I'd hate to lose meteos, what dont you like about him here?@@Bryan-p8u

  • @botbadger
    @botbadger 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    When they refer to tweets or moments in the LCS can a snippet of the image or video be shown PLEASE!

    • @packerfan285
      @packerfan285 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      100% agree. I think it's the only thing the podcast is really missing. Would definately elevate the content to another level

    • @LetsPlayBojangles
      @LetsPlayBojangles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      At least for segments where they really go into specific detail.

    • @anguslum9561
      @anguslum9561 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would be great! RITO PLEASE

  • @Laaj_Faaj
    @Laaj_Faaj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I've watched every Dive episode this season. The crazy part is that I don't even think about it anymore; the moment I see it pop up on my home page, it's the first thing I watch. Great job guys.

  • @ajellis3914
    @ajellis3914 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +275

    Whoever is producing the dive needs a raise

    • @PlsDontReadThis123
      @PlsDontReadThis123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Riot just laid off one of the producers I think a few weeks ago and the crew mentioned it. Very sad to see.

    • @XykloneHL
      @XykloneHL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Monkeys paw: they get the raise but fire 2 more employees to do so

    • @midgevong41
      @midgevong41 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@XykloneHL Worth?

    • @Bryan-p8u
      @Bryan-p8u 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Brother shut up

    • @Bryan-p8u
      @Bryan-p8u 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Bad opinion.

  • @Bigbakes1526
    @Bigbakes1526 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    Lets go! The dive and Pros have been amazing this year!

    • @PlsDontReadThis123
      @PlsDontReadThis123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      To be fair, the Dive is ALWAYS a banger. The discussions are much needed in the space.

  • @462seb
    @462seb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    My favorite caster trio now have a podcast, pog dude

  • @AngFX
    @AngFX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    yall should have Mark on for the last episode of the split but like dont even acknowledge it

  • @arua152
    @arua152 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Even meteos’ smile and wave in the first 5 seconds of the pod is quality content

  • @AdrianO.
    @AdrianO. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is the only hour+ podcast I can watch all the way through.

  • @SHOPACCLMHTUYTIN
    @SHOPACCLMHTUYTIN 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Whoever is producing the dive needs a raise

  • @verafied9225
    @verafied9225 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I love watching sanitized Meteos on here and then comparing that to the degeneracy on co-stream 😂

  • @Tecmaster96
    @Tecmaster96 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I like APA. I also like the dive. Please algorithm, take this engagement.

    • @DoNotFearTheReapa
      @DoNotFearTheReapa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      APA talks trash because he is trash

  • @R3d05
    @R3d05 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Azael saying "we had some good meat" was craaaazzzyyy

  • @cart02
    @cart02 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Massu is fasting for Ramadan. Oh I thought it was Senna. LMAO

  • @NeusReeves
    @NeusReeves 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’ve actually found that I’m looking forward to watching The Dive. It’s a great series and I really enjoy your perspectives

  • @imthebestmayne122
    @imthebestmayne122 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    me when the dive isn't even a full hour and a half :,(

  • @Hypious
    @Hypious 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    About to watch let’s see if there’s a 10 minute volibear segment this week

    • @CaptainLanky26
      @CaptainLanky26 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We can only hope

    • @saintsataniko2116
      @saintsataniko2116 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nah, it's a 10-minute Skarner segment instead.

  • @antoninozappala9143
    @antoninozappala9143 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The lcs keeps growing on me I always followed even tho I am from eu but this year as been awesome thanks guys

  • @MunkeyBrewster
    @MunkeyBrewster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm happy to see Bwipo come to success, watching him carry is so cool!

  • @bowencermack5885
    @bowencermack5885 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank god for the dive. Makes my lunch break actually enjoyable

  • @88Diamonds
    @88Diamonds 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    These 3 are what keep me watching the pro league scene.

  • @saintsataniko2116
    @saintsataniko2116 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think it would be tragic if NRG makes any roster change at all. I think they can definitely show up in Summer with this roster, because so many of their games just looked like throws because of disastrous early turret dives or over-forcing objectives.

  • @drogon4235
    @drogon4235 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Kobe looks like he just rolled out of bed. LOL

    • @jessevillarreal5204
      @jessevillarreal5204 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He absolutely did look at that bed head the hair in the back 😂😂

    • @markmyers8491
      @markmyers8491 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For sure. He sounded like he just woke up in the first ten minutes lol

    • @TrueCasio
      @TrueCasio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I mean metoes is there so maybe Kobe did roll something

    • @rudedinosaur
      @rudedinosaur 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@jessevillarreal5204Azael had super crazy bed hair too

    • @clonetrooper730
      @clonetrooper730 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rudedinosaurWait a minute...

  • @Ocsomj
    @Ocsomj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man I love this show and meteos has been fantastic. "super weak in super week" sheeesh lmao

  • @rooman715
    @rooman715 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meteos' point at 56 min about 100 Thieves' mental resiliency is spot on. How can you not cheer for these guys? They are what NRG was at worlds; both teams "over performed" and seem to have this attitude of "I'm just lucky to be here, and I'm going to enjoy and be thankful for every minute of it." There is a relaxed confidence, "How far can we go? I don't know. Let's fight like hell and find out."

  • @botbadger
    @botbadger 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Hearing Meteos on the cast was refreshing

  • @Fluffy311
    @Fluffy311 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Dive with these three is the BEST lineup it’s ever had

  • @StoicTheGeek
    @StoicTheGeek 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the tip on the Massu piece. Will go watch after this.

  • @JurassicParker93
    @JurassicParker93 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kobe with the bedhead and early morning voice. Think he might've woken up 20 mins before this was filmed lmao

  • @xben9216
    @xben9216 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    About APA, yes he is struggling sometimes and won't gonna 1v9 games, but it seems to me the people just doesn't want to realize that he is a facilitator type of player, he won't be the main carry, it will be Yeon. The champs he plays/favorizes is all engage/follow up champs not hyper carries. If he can improve further and not stuck on this level where he is atm, he'll be fine.

  • @ViO-dj4vw
    @ViO-dj4vw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks I needed something to listen to!

  • @rsanfiz
    @rsanfiz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Meteos insights and not speculating is wonderful

  • @chase6549
    @chase6549 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meteos ALWAYS cautions against baseless criticisms of players (Huhi/NRG underperformance). He knows how baseless online narratives can torpedo careers. Huge respect for his principles.

  • @theallinpodcast9706
    @theallinpodcast9706 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Capt flowers is gonna leave casting to go pro now that Skarner is gonna be OP

  • @michaeldiprimo6915
    @michaeldiprimo6915 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great episode :) Keep it up!

  • @UbaZy
    @UbaZy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a 100t fan, I hoping they ban out asol because that champ can actually 1v9 after scaling which I don't think ziggs does as much and they let him have ziggs and punish it with something like Vi and yone combo like in the regular season.

    • @rudedinosaur
      @rudedinosaur 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly don’t give him Asol because he can actually cs on asol, no matter how far behind because of execute damage

  • @nickwilliams3050
    @nickwilliams3050 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im glad meteos is taking marks spot. obvious choice now that ive seen it

  • @chadcooley7994
    @chadcooley7994 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great show guys!

  • @theallinpodcast9706
    @theallinpodcast9706 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about if Flowers was on the dive as a guest? :0

  • @Nihimon
    @Nihimon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The vision thing - why not broadcast with slight blue/red tints when vision only applies to one team?

  • @markreidel1638
    @markreidel1638 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great show. They need to add sven too!

  • @gabrielvelasquez4121
    @gabrielvelasquez4121 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The dive and pros content has been awesome this year!

  • @kevinco7226
    @kevinco7226 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Dive needs to be 2hrs minimum

  • @donaldglover8212
    @donaldglover8212 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great episode bois!

  • @caiyingwu4643
    @caiyingwu4643 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Skarner sup as anti-engage seems like it will be amazing. A support that can invade with the jungler while having a crap load of peel for the ADC, imagine aiming your ulti at your carries while their team tries to dive them.

    • @Speeds_Gaming_Corner
      @Speeds_Gaming_Corner 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just sounds like a poor man's braum to me.

  • @Hydroplutomic
    @Hydroplutomic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please never let Meteos leave

  • @starfisher0950
    @starfisher0950 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meteos out here being the best targeter in the world

  • @Shnozzu
    @Shnozzu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yoooo meatoes added to the intro nicu!

  • @cedrichofstetter4057
    @cedrichofstetter4057 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Something APA has really improved on is having mid prio. He had it in the majority of the games against FLY and 100T even if he only got 1 or two solo kills. I think APA doesn't even have to win against Quid, he just has to go even, and TL will stop 100T

  • @nestor6178
    @nestor6178 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shoutout to that one youtube commenter that kept saying riot didnt move the playoffs for valorant.

  • @acidrat420
    @acidrat420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a good trio, Flowers would fit in really well also. Quadra junglers lol

  • @bassheadgg
    @bassheadgg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He's actually not that insane of a lane ganker before LVL 6. Using the E to go thru walls leaves you with no hard CC left.
    It's really still about the mid-game, being able to charge from any angle with a more open map where he gets alot of value.

  • @postalcollapse12
    @postalcollapse12 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so how late did you guys stay out late night?

  • @ltophoj21
    @ltophoj21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TL is going to stomp 100 thieves

  • @Aemulator.
    @Aemulator. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On the point of drive never getting views, I almost always skip them because I know they’ll be played on broadcast!!

  • @Cantfkingfindaname
    @Cantfkingfindaname 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here for the bit of crumb / fluff in Azael's beard, 47:55 rip

  • @reallyryn
    @reallyryn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If flowers hates the overloaded kits champs, I'm flowers #1 fan.

  • @arcanet1482
    @arcanet1482 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    woooo new dive episode

  • @TheMumboGumbo
    @TheMumboGumbo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I still remember blonde curly haired meteos

    • @markmyers8491
      @markmyers8491 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Had that super saiyan cut

    • @TheMumboGumbo
      @TheMumboGumbo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Xhalonick agreed

  • @paragrin8385
    @paragrin8385 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i guess meteos is replacing phreak for puns

  • @LetsPlayBojangles
    @LetsPlayBojangles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    #1 Dive is great, change nothing.
    #2 lcs made sure to skip this sunday so that the finals is on EASTER SUNDAY. needham literally waffled last year about how the stadium they wanted was only available then. This year its in studio that they have complete control over wtf.

  • @isaacbledsoe550
    @isaacbledsoe550 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did not realize Kobe and Meteos were cousins

  • @Gmuni0
    @Gmuni0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The last questionable MVP was when Arrow won it.

  • @jumpbc
    @jumpbc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:22 for video start

  • @01kaskasero
    @01kaskasero 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meteos why you hating on APA. APA sucks because he loses on champs. On champs he wins on, he still sucks. Sucks if you lose, sucks if you win. Whatever

  • @welshnightmare7245
    @welshnightmare7245 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think c9 was sandbagging game to vs 100t in playoffs

  • @pasteveryfate
    @pasteveryfate 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its pretty obvious huhi and the team just dont mix cohesively

  • @Musicisbeast321
    @Musicisbeast321 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    (ADC) I can't wait to never see Skarner in my games since I'll be permanently banning him :)

  • @dumpIings
    @dumpIings 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’s crazy to say Yeon was the best performing, he got caught mid when the whole team was rotating top like 4 times. Literally caused them to lose

  • @ajsciri4
    @ajsciri4 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    anyone sleeping on blaber is an absolute FOOL

  • @ckuklok
    @ckuklok 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    No mention of Quickshot being fired?

    • @nickwagner6545
      @nickwagner6545 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Riot’s not going to clear them to talk about this on a Riot broadcast

    • @proteuswest1084
      @proteuswest1084 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This isn't an LEC podcast. I know that there a few EU fans who hate watch the LCS, but that doesn't mean that our content is catered to you except to remind you of 16:47 and G2 losing to NRG at Worlds.

  • @D3harke
    @D3harke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like 100T barely getting by NRG, a team that some pros consider to be the actual worst in the league (based off end of split interviews), doesn't really beat the fraud allegations...

  • @driftrapid-3021
    @driftrapid-3021 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we get a caedrel guest appearance xdd

  • @yatoyoboku
    @yatoyoboku 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Skin is dope but they can’t do trucker orn most likely due to all the trucker/farmer protests going on around the world. Train conductor is still good; getting hit by a train is way more fatal than a semi.

  • @slycoopahh9352
    @slycoopahh9352 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ignar carried NRG, huhi wasn’t it.

    • @camerongrey3643
      @camerongrey3643 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s pretty obvious there are other factors. Palafox has been very inconsistent - he’s had some great moments and some int moments, which happens stylistically when you go for surprising angles, but there have been more head scratchers this year. And Dhokla has been a non factor all year. I can’t think of a game he carried, but I can think of some games he lost.

  • @Omega_Zero69
    @Omega_Zero69 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    apa scrims in mavis beacon solo q

  • @escobarisanoctopus
    @escobarisanoctopus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    C9 3 - 0 FLY
    100T 3 - 1 TL
    I don't think we'll have competitive series this week. I have no faith in FLY. Yeah, Massu looked good, but Busio still made some boneheaded decisions. Berserker and Vulcan were on another level. Jensen also tilted and jojo loves to trash talk - unlike APA, he backs it up.
    As for 100T & TL ... I think Quid's on another level and TL won't be able to stop him. Impact, UmTi, Yeon and Core are all very, very good, but if your midlane is getting pounded, it'll be hard to recover.

  • @Zhuny_FR
    @Zhuny_FR 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meteos has a point. Quid gaps APA and sniper will take over

  • @Reaper2378
    @Reaper2378 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Impact doesn't carry so let sniper hold his own ban asol and ziggs then quid will wreck him for free have river play bot side to shut down yeon. Tl only shot is protect yeon and get impact on Jax or something... mid is lost regardless

  • @theweekdy7388
    @theweekdy7388 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SUPER WEAK IN THE SUPER WEEK🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @doing63
    @doing63 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    cool

  • @ElReyDeNoche
    @ElReyDeNoche 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FIRST COMMENT
    Ok but seriously I think Inspired gets a lot of credit for the work of his solo laners so I'm very curious about this series. I genuinely dont see him on the level of River or Blaber on his A game.

  • @safetoo2000
    @safetoo2000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why are you guys trying so hard to give APA a rivlery, he's so bad at the game but a he is a good parrot. one time with Jensen, before it was with Jojo or palafox. How much did TL pay for that ?

  • @LinkSmith-zb7rr
    @LinkSmith-zb7rr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys watched the games this weekend and think 100T is gonna beat TL? Big XD

  • @dylanroessler6810
    @dylanroessler6810 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Blaber always been the best JG in NA, Inspired and river being good in regular season doesn’t change that. In playoffs Blaber is always gapping them and it doesn’t look close, even at worlds when inspired was on rouge blaber still gapped inspired.

    • @midgevong41
      @midgevong41 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unless there's a crab involved lol

  • @KazzGuy09
    @KazzGuy09 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need to check out skarners kit and abilities before you tell people you don't think he's going to be good, he's a better k'sante, but you can actually counter play him, but he can duel and he's a juggernaut like ornn or morde or sion

    • @ashtonshephard3852
      @ashtonshephard3852 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nah it looks like a tank. Juggs are supposed to kill you if they get on top. Skarner looks like he's just supposed to engage

    • @DemonicGorilla
      @DemonicGorilla 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Brother i think you should read what scalings each champ has. Theyre nothing alike. Skarner only gets dmg from hp. Ksante gets damage from hp, mr, armor, ad, sheen effects etc.

  • @LahJoshy
    @LahJoshy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😮

  • @MrGoalie2012
    @MrGoalie2012 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hot take:
    The trash talk between APA and Jensen is actually the opposite of good for the overall vibe of the league. All chatting and being toxic in a pro game (when that type of stuff would get you banned in solo queue) is beyond cringe and makes the "rivalries" seem even more fake or forced. Meteos saying "as a spectator you love it every time" is actually the opposite when I see it pop up on the screen

  • @nicksmith516
    @nicksmith516 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh god I cringed a little at the last segment with upper bracket predictions.. Always gotta keep overhyping blaber, the trend never stops.

  • @cowboy29er
    @cowboy29er 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I hate it showing a clip at the beginning. Can it not just start with the intro and not try and spoil the whole episode right away.

    • @thannushankrishnadasan9275
      @thannushankrishnadasan9275 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How did that spoil the whole episode? It was literally one joke 😂 😅

    • @cowboy29er
      @cowboy29er 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @thannushankrishnadasan9275 It is a "spoiler," not that it spoiled the whole episode, I was being a bit extractive.

  • @jantjedoedelus8079
    @jantjedoedelus8079 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kobe it might be nice if you would cover your mouth when you unleash the yawn.

  • @Omega_Zero69
    @Omega_Zero69 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ignar diff

  • @seluhir8820
    @seluhir8820 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I mean, of course Drive doesn't get many views. You guys have cultivated a culture where your fans only want people being jerks to each other. Maybe spend less of your focus pushing trash talk during your live broadcasts and you'll have more fans who are interested in content that isn't just people treating each other like crap.
    You've turned your content into the worst form of slapstick comedy and you complain that your drama side content isn't popular. Of course it isn't. You've cultivated the wrong audience for that with your obsessive focus on toxicity.

    • @midgevong41
      @midgevong41 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't know if we can 100% blame Riot for that issue when the biggest streamers are the most toxic, like Tyler1, that just seems to be what people are being drawn too. I agree though the trash talk stuff doesn't really help them though.

    • @seluhir8820
      @seluhir8820 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@midgevong41 So it is definitely a multi-faceted issue and Riot is not 100% to blame, for sure. That being said, I don't think we can separate Riot from culpability entirely when they have brought Tyler1 onto their broadcast multiple times despite his extreme toxicity and they continue to center content creators whose brands primarily live in that same ecosystem.
      In the end, it IS Riot's community. They make the game, they make the rules, and they choose which aspects of people they wish to highlight on their broacasts. They have made the decision that centering toxicity is their primary focus - often even above skill.
      And thus, they shouldn't be surprised when the majority of the audience they've built wants nothing but lowest common denominator 'ha ha he said something mean' comedy and not hard hitting drama/documentary content like Drive.
      If they want drive to be a pillar of their content, they need to shift their broadcast to being more analytically focused and less 'let's see if we can get the teenagers to say mean things to each other' focused.

    • @Tecmaster96
      @Tecmaster96 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The handwringing over people being vulgar in a video game is overdramatic. Yeah, a lot of the league fandom are assholes. Cry.

    • @midgevong41
      @midgevong41 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seluhir8820 I don't feel like it's centered on toxicity. I think toxicity is just the "interesting" side plot that draws in a younger more competitive audience, which they do desperately need.
      I also can't remember in the last year when Tyler1 has been at a Riot event. The last I can remember is a worlds event like 3 years ago.

    • @seluhir8820
      @seluhir8820 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@midgevong41 It's been a while for him specifically. But just a week or so ago they brought in a content creator whose ENTIRE JOB was to get teenagers to be jerks. Every time she was on-screen she was goading them into being jerks. That was her whole purpose there.
      And... I thought *I* was cynical, but if you think the only way to get young people interested is by having people treat each other like garbage on-screen constantly... then holy crap you are ten times more cynical than me.
      Truly competitive people... they don't care to watch people treat each other like crap. Truly competitive people want to watch people perform their best against each other - they want ACTUAL COMPETITION. Not 'that guy sucks' - that isn't entertaining to someone who is actually competitive-minded. Again: That's lowest common denominator slapstick comedy, not competition. That's catering to the jackass audience, not to an audience of competitive minds.