Hi Charles, first, thank you very much for your nice review! And second, sorry for did not see that earlier 😯 We checked out and saw you ordered your MagTube in DIY kit, that's why it seems a mistake has been made during the mounting process, which cause the "unstability" of the gunstock you mentionned. Technically, there's no notched washer needed for this connection (cf part 2.L on the MagTube mounting tutorial). So you probably took the one dedicated to the Back-end connection or the added one provided in spare parts. It really surprised us to see this because our sturdiness is one of our main strength which make our gun stock competitive and durable for most of the players. We also notice your wish to be able to test out ForceTube module, and you may be happy in a while.. 😁
Wow! Seeing your comments on almost all the review videos has made me really want to buy your gun stock! They are really informative and polite comments! Whoever is handling the TH-cam comments is doing a stellar job of positively representing your brand online! Well done, its really awesome! Just wanted to thank you!
I haven't tried the other brand but Protube has been an amazing addition to my VR gaming. I first bought the 'beginner' gun stock that was just the bar between the controllers and that was awesome. When I bought a quest 3 I went all in and got a full gunstock and it is an effin game changer. Well built and total fit customization. Definitely recommend.
I just got my carbon magtube stock and I love it. Best thing when trialing it to size is to adjust the controller mounts on the fly in free roam until when u you grip and un-grip the front end the line of sight does not change or jump a distance into position.
Please please please tell me how you hot yet dominant hand to line up straight with the pointer. It’s off by a lot! It’s Twisted and there is no way to twist the controller mount. Just up/down/left/right.
Very nice work mate! That flex looks pretty unnerving, I imagined the protubes being more stable. The misalignment issues must be from the lack of offset to compensate for the asymmetrical Q2 controller design and on top of that no possibility of rotational adjustment around vertical axis
I surprised this vid shows the disconnecting the controllers from the gun stock by tilting the controller almost 90% to remove them. I was taught "Twist" the controller vertically disconnect it from gun stick. I find it much easier to remove and don't have to worry about the moving it's magnetic mount as much. Been doing that for years and it seem to work best.
You keep mentioning the steep angle for the first joint, but couldn't you just adjust it to be more level and pull back the first grip point to make it equivalent?
The problem is not the angle itself, the torque introduced by the large controller offsets is. The positioning of the controller mounts was just lined up with the modus to show that difference. You could make the protube stiffer by flattening it, but it's all relative. The lower you can get the controllers to the tube, the fewer concessions you make to stiffness through the entire design. The bowk is the ultimate example of that, but yields adjustability to that cause.
I like some weight on my gun stock adds some belief that you're really holding a gun well playing I just ordered the mag tube to replace my home made one haha nice video though 👍
Has the new versions of onward fixed the angle issue? Would love an updated video of your experience and recommendations of new games compatible with gunstocks.
I got mine today, its muuch better to play now, i played onward and breachers, tommorow im gonna try pavlov and contractors, but i think its gonna work also on both games
@@valentinodegiorgi8427would love to hear an update!? I’m looking at buying this right now, mostly for contractors but just all shooters would be nice.
For the love of God, someone PLEASE show a video of what you see though the quest and HIW you are adjusting your stock! I have tried EVERYTHING to get the damn controller yo sim straight, but the controller mount is “Twisted” too far, snd there is NO WAY to adjust the twist. So when in the menu I can’t even select items because the pointer is So Far Off. Any one please help. Protube has been useless. And dibt say “just go into contractors/onward and calibrate your guns. I have a ton of other FPS, and you can’t do thst with them.
I have a sanlaki sleek coming in to compare against, of the two it looks to perform the best. Shipping from the US takes an age though, so it’s still a few weeks away.
It looks like I'm in the minority here, but my experience with the Protube is mostly negative. Disclaimer, my issues may have been mostly tied to using Index controllers, which have more of a complex shape. It felt like my hand movements were pretty inhibited even though the magnet is easily removable. Even the slight force the magnets had was enough to make the experience somewhat choppy when reloading or switching weapons in a game like Pavlov. I'm sure this is something that many people are able to get around/get used to, but I just couldn't do it. Additionally, the 3d printed plastic was quite rough and slightly jagged (jagged is kind of an extreme word though), and I could feel it rubbing up against my palm while I was holding my controller. The part of the 3d prints that attaches the gunstock to your controllers was also way too tight, and I understand that its likely because they couldn't have done it any other way, but the tightness of the holsters gave my controllers some significant scratching/visual damage. If you're using the gunstock as more of a permanent solution, then I don't believe this is as much of an issue as it was for me. All of this being said, the main purpose of the gunstock is to provide a more stable/pleasant aiming experience, and it did just that. Too bad the cons heavily outweighed the pros (at least from my perspective). TLDR: Caused scratching on my index controllers and moving the controllers to and from the gunstock was very choppy/not smooth. Aiming/Immersion was good though.
Yeah i know the index mounts were a big issue with the protube, and their initial design relied on zipties which is never ideal. I do know people had more success with the modus index mounts, and the new bowk index looks like nothing else, but it's something i can't really try myself since importing an index is a fairly ridiculous proposition here.
Nah the apto is like the pagani, it's another level up with no pretence of going racing. Also when i did this review the v3 didn't exist, and the existing apto was kinda very flexy.
So I just purchased the protube gunstock for the quest 2 and set it up in Pavlov VR with the virtual stock enabled. is it better to have this enabled or disabled when using the protube?
The modus had really nicely shaped cups, they've got a bit of a lip to them like the bowk does. Protube is like the glistco, the cups feel a bit slippery.
@@GameCubits thx but I bumped into the vrail MK2 quest 2 if I can cop this than the mondus as I see it it's popular and looks small in people's hands and just a few more dollars how do you see it
Nice review mate cheers over engineered for sure all that extra adjustability sounds nice but in my experience it has very little application and at the very real cost of stability/durability
I notice your rolling the rifles left a bit which irl would cause some ballistic issues since sighting is based on a vertical plane. Seems to work for you but is the stock causing that?
Reloading or using grenades while using the stocks is extremely awkward and slow. Or is that just me? I like using the stock just to shoot with but it's immersion breaking the moment you go to reload and can't find the magnet on the stock while essentially blindfolded.
You get fast with muscle memory, there's barely a difference in time to firing once you're dialed in. Something which may help is getting the virtual hand positions to line up with your real hands on your favorite weapon. That way your view in the headset will work as a guide to the magnet point.
Wait a minute you're using a quest 2 but it's showing a rift controller why is that shouldn't it be showing a Quest 2 controller or at least the original Quest controller but instead of showing a rift controller 🤔
A quirk of using virtual desktop for the pc version, I assume. I never bothered to look into it too hard. You’d think it would pick it up as a rift s at least…
I can't really tell. I've been using vr since it first went mainstream, and it varies a lot from person to person. I think if you're susceptible to car or sea sickness it may take longer, but the method of just taking it slowly and starting with stationary games doesn't change., Just never try to push through it, as that's how you form a negative association and response.
I actually do, but it's not an exaggerated motion, the inward rotation is combined with a lift so i don't cross my hand over the stock. Because magnetism has such a small range of effect you're just not going to pick up the release normally.
They're not so much in competition, the kobra is all about immersion and the protube is about performance. That's a tough, subjective choice. Unless I'm using a shotgun. The modus v2 is a better version of the protube though, I would never hesitate to recommend that over the protube.
If you go to the build depot shop get some PVC pipe with some t sections. Then you can just glue that together and try will cost you about 15 dollars, not as good but a good place to try it out before you splurge.
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Hi Charles, first, thank you very much for your nice review! And second, sorry for did not see that earlier 😯
We checked out and saw you ordered your MagTube in DIY kit, that's why it seems a mistake has been made during the mounting process, which cause the "unstability" of the gunstock you mentionned.
Technically, there's no notched washer needed for this connection (cf part 2.L on the MagTube mounting tutorial). So you probably took the one dedicated to the Back-end connection or the added one provided in spare parts.
It really surprised us to see this because our sturdiness is one of our main strength which make our gun stock competitive and durable for most of the players.
We also notice your wish to be able to test out ForceTube module, and you may be happy in a while.. 😁
Wow! Seeing your comments on almost all the review videos has made me really want to buy your gun stock! They are really informative and polite comments!
Whoever is handling the TH-cam comments is doing a stellar job of positively representing your brand online! Well done, its really awesome! Just wanted to thank you!
@@TheGameCritc fr, these people seem pretty genuine, I feel like that's important for a company
I haven't tried the other brand but Protube has been an amazing addition to my VR gaming. I first bought the 'beginner' gun stock that was just the bar between the controllers and that was awesome. When I bought a quest 3 I went all in and got a full gunstock and it is an effin game changer.
Well built and total fit customization. Definitely recommend.
I just got my carbon magtube stock and I love it. Best thing when trialing it to size is to adjust the controller mounts on the fly in free roam until when u you grip and un-grip the front end the line of sight does not change or jump a distance into position.
Please please please tell me how you hot yet dominant hand to line up straight with the pointer. It’s off by a lot! It’s Twisted and there is no way to twist the controller mount. Just up/down/left/right.
ProTube VR is the best gunstock arround. I just wish they have one for holding two handed sword in Tales of Glory 😁👍
Yes!!!! While I haven’t played that game specifically...2 handed swords in vr is almost as broken as holding a 2 handed gun without the gunstock.
@Jack Read did you order the right cups?
Very nice work mate! That flex looks pretty unnerving, I imagined the protubes being more stable. The misalignment issues must be from the lack of offset to compensate for the asymmetrical Q2 controller design and on top of that no possibility of rotational adjustment around vertical axis
Thanks for the video! Was planning on getting one of these but got a Modus V2 instead and it's great.
I surprised this vid shows the disconnecting the controllers from the gun stock by tilting the controller almost 90% to remove them. I was taught "Twist" the controller vertically disconnect it from gun stick. I find it much easier to remove and don't have to worry about the moving it's magnetic mount as much. Been doing that for years and it seem to work best.
Great videos, I'm looking into getting a gunstock for comp Onward. Thank you
Can I order it in the USA
You keep mentioning the steep angle for the first joint, but couldn't you just adjust it to be more level and pull back the first grip point to make it equivalent?
The problem is not the angle itself, the torque introduced by the large controller offsets is. The positioning of the controller mounts was just lined up with the modus to show that difference. You could make the protube stiffer by flattening it, but it's all relative.
The lower you can get the controllers to the tube, the fewer concessions you make to stiffness through the entire design. The bowk is the ultimate example of that, but yields adjustability to that cause.
I like some weight on my gun stock adds some belief that you're really holding a gun well playing I just ordered the mag tube to replace my home made one haha nice video though 👍
How does it compare to the new Kobra gunstock?
Your a good man Cubits and you remind me of John in Active Self Protection hope your channel grows 😄
Finally a real review. Thank you!!! What’s your opinion on Mamut Apto3 Wasp?
Probably the best grandpa ever 🤣 correct me if I’m wrong
Has the new versions of onward fixed the angle issue? Would love an updated video of your experience and recommendations of new games compatible with gunstocks.
I got mine today, its muuch better to play now, i played onward and breachers, tommorow im gonna try pavlov and contractors, but i think its gonna work also on both games
@@valentinodegiorgi8427would love to hear an update!? I’m looking at buying this right now, mostly for contractors but just all shooters would be nice.
I've got one, most of the 3D printed parts have broken.
The amount of times I've punched myself in the face using the SV98 in Onward...
For the love of God, someone PLEASE show a video of what you see though the quest and HIW you are adjusting your stock! I have tried EVERYTHING to get the damn controller yo sim straight, but the controller mount is “Twisted” too far, snd there is NO WAY to adjust the twist. So when in the menu I can’t even select items because the pointer is So Far Off. Any one please help. Protube has been useless. And dibt say “just go into contractors/onward and calibrate your guns. I have a ton of other FPS, and you can’t do thst with them.
Another great review! Have you considered doing either of the the Sanlaki stocks?
I have a sanlaki sleek coming in to compare against, of the two it looks to perform the best. Shipping from the US takes an age though, so it’s still a few weeks away.
It looks like I'm in the minority here, but my experience with the Protube is mostly negative.
Disclaimer, my issues may have been mostly tied to using Index controllers, which have more of a complex shape.
It felt like my hand movements were pretty inhibited even though the magnet is easily removable. Even the slight force the magnets had was enough to make the experience somewhat choppy when reloading or switching weapons in a game like Pavlov. I'm sure this is something that many people are able to get around/get used to, but I just couldn't do it. Additionally, the 3d printed plastic was quite rough and slightly jagged (jagged is kind of an extreme word though), and I could feel it rubbing up against my palm while I was holding my controller. The part of the 3d prints that attaches the gunstock to your controllers was also way too tight, and I understand that its likely because they couldn't have done it any other way, but the tightness of the holsters gave my controllers some significant scratching/visual damage. If you're using the gunstock as more of a permanent solution, then I don't believe this is as much of an issue as it was for me. All of this being said, the main purpose of the gunstock is to provide a more stable/pleasant aiming experience, and it did just that. Too bad the cons heavily outweighed the pros (at least from my perspective).
TLDR: Caused scratching on my index controllers and moving the controllers to and from the gunstock was very choppy/not smooth. Aiming/Immersion was good though.
Yeah i know the index mounts were a big issue with the protube, and their initial design relied on zipties which is never ideal.
I do know people had more success with the modus index mounts, and the new bowk index looks like nothing else, but it's something i can't really try myself since importing an index is a fairly ridiculous proposition here.
Thank god he’s playing Onward
Great review
I hate to say it but the real “Ferrari” of Vr gunstocks is the mamut apto 3 wasp… goddamn
Nah the apto is like the pagani, it's another level up with no pretence of going racing.
Also when i did this review the v3 didn't exist, and the existing apto was kinda very flexy.
@@GameCubitsso the apto is better? Also which is your top 3 ranked 1-3
So I just purchased the protube gunstock for the quest 2 and set it up in Pavlov VR with the virtual stock enabled. is it better to have this enabled or disabled when using the protube?
Disable the virtual stock, it will just make the rear controller "sticky" when it gets near your shoulder. You don't need it with the physical stock.
I have smaller hands I can just barely hold it so I might just stick with modus V2
The modus had really nicely shaped cups, they've got a bit of a lip to them like the bowk does. Protube is like the glistco, the cups feel a bit slippery.
@@GameCubits thx but I bumped into the vrail MK2 quest 2 if I can cop this than the mondus as I see it it's popular and looks small in people's hands and just a few more dollars how do you see it
Nice review mate cheers
over engineered for sure all that extra adjustability sounds nice but in my experience it has very little application and at the very real cost of stability/durability
I notice your rolling the rifles left a bit which irl would cause some ballistic issues since sighting is based on a vertical plane. Seems to work for you but is the stock causing that?
does it work with valve index controllers ?????
Reloading or using grenades while using the stocks is extremely awkward and slow.
Or is that just me?
I like using the stock just to shoot with but it's immersion breaking the moment you go to reload and can't find the magnet on the stock while essentially blindfolded.
You get fast with muscle memory, there's barely a difference in time to firing once you're dialed in.
Something which may help is getting the virtual hand positions to line up with your real hands on your favorite weapon. That way your view in the headset will work as a guide to the magnet point.
Try to train reconnecting and disconnecting, its mostly about muscle memory
Nice! So the Modus is still your favourite of the bunch then?
Modus is my favourite mag stock, bowk is also really good but way different.
It is disappointing how blurry the game actually is when viewing through the headset.
What is this specific one called?
Wait a minute you're using a quest 2 but it's showing a rift controller why is that shouldn't it be showing a Quest 2 controller or at least the original Quest controller but instead of showing a rift controller 🤔
A quirk of using virtual desktop for the pc version, I assume. I never bothered to look into it too hard. You’d think it would pick it up as a rift s at least…
You should try mamut vr apto 2.0
Their new aluminium version looks pretty good, waiting for that to come out.
@@GameCubits $10,000 lmao wtf??? Who would buy that
How long does it take to not get motion sickness with these games?
I can't really tell. I've been using vr since it first went mainstream, and it varies a lot from person to person. I think if you're susceptible to car or sea sickness it may take longer, but the method of just taking it slowly and starting with stationary games doesn't change.,
Just never try to push through it, as that's how you form a negative association and response.
@@GameCubits ok. Awesome. Thank you! I was actually thinking that too lol. Just keep playing it will go away 🤢
He talks so much about pulling the other way so the magnet doesnt turn but when he is in the game he doesnt pull the other way
I actually do, but it's not an exaggerated motion, the inward rotation is combined with a lift so i don't cross my hand over the stock.
Because magnetism has such a small range of effect you're just not going to pick up the release normally.
What’s better chrome or carbon?
The only real difference is the carbon is about 200g lighter. Personally i like using the lightest stock possible, but ymmv.
Virtual Rifle Systems is the most realistic, best made and hands down #1. That makes them the Bugatti of the virtual title stocks.
kobra vs protube ?
They're not so much in competition, the kobra is all about immersion and the protube is about performance. That's a tough, subjective choice. Unless I'm using a shotgun.
The modus v2 is a better version of the protube though, I would never hesitate to recommend that over the protube.
Overpriced, even if that ‘carbon fiber’ wasn’t there then they still would overprice it.
If you go to the build depot shop get some PVC pipe with some t sections.
Then you can just glue that together and try will cost you about 15 dollars, not as good but a good place to try it out before you splurge.