love how emongg always finds the nicest and most constructive way to give criticism without totally taking away from the humor of what’s happening, it always gives off a great vibe of “laughing with them, not at them” and overall makes the community one of the most positive and friendly communities I’ve ever been a part of :)
meanwhile, flats just absolutely flames bronzes for making mistakes that are obvious to others but not to them. they're like two sides of the same coin 😂😂
Unfortunately for you this was a booster match for the enemy JQ. They only died when you shot at them which is why you were being so hard focused. I'm on the EU server, cheating and boosting is rampant so I see this stuff all the time. Good game.
The most painful part of this video was the Mercy never pocketing Ashe…as a Mercy main, if I see an Ashe on my team, I’m shoving that blue beam right up their ass. Boosted dynamite is sooo satisfying!
As someone who mains ashe and gets mercy pockets almost every game, I appreciate you but it's extremely stressful. 75% of the time id rather have another support help me out with finishing off kills like zen, bap, ana, or Lucio, than putting all of the pressure (and the blame in case of a loss) on me. Too many times I get mercy's screaming at me for not killing the pharmamercy enough and I'm thinking why don't you switch to ana or bap and help me shoot them out of the sky instead of yelling at me damn.
@@jaydenhohman2590except for the fact that it takes so long to aim and then miss that people have already been healed back up in a higher elo. Your better off missing more shots and hitting some crucial ones that kill a target then not shooting those shots either way. Like yes reloads on ashe takes time so make them count but if you won't kill anything because you shoot so slow it doesn't matter.
The bad aim is expected, but the bronze-level positioning and staggering just goes to show how delightful of a hero Moira is. Truly blessed to have her in the game.
Fade is just too good of an ability. It can lead to bad habits unfortunately. Still, realising you can't play like her when you aren't Moira is what makes good Moira players... I think lmao
I'm a former (OW1) plat Moira main, and I managed to get plat on tank and silver on DPS. She's really not that low-skill, it's the issue of people "maining" a character by only playing them and nobody else. I "main" heroes by prioritizing playing them but if we need X Y or Z I play X Y or Z.
I was a gold tank and silver support all OW1. Never was able to Q for DPS. Then OW2 had shorter Qs so I dps’d for giggles. Now I find myself Diamond 4 playing a way better Sojourn / Widow than I ever expected as a previous Rein / Moira main. Weirdly still gold/silver other roles.
YEPP my duo and I are support mains, and we always play dps in QP after having a tough time in comp. It always make me laugh at how bad I am at securing kills😂
As a Moria Main Myself. I can agree. I mostly play her just because my team always needs a good Healer and the DPS can make all the difference. However I like playing Tank and Damage when I can.
If only you could say that just about Moiras. Mercy mains are obvious example of non-transferable skill, and another example are probably "current meta" tanks. I remember how I was low plat in ow1, but got to masters when Zarya was meta.
It seems like this Sojourn either doesn't know or forgets that she can use her regular primary fire while in her ult to charge the rail gun so much faster (unless they changed that)
Once that happened in one of my games and the enemy team just bashed us with all of their alts lol we could do absolutely nothing because we were close to end game
Imma keep saying it.. if you are in bronze and cant seem to climb, you deserve to be in bronze.. There's no reason for someone who is better than bronze to get stuck with the worst of the worst players in the game, an average silver could solo a bronze lobby if they had a good day.. it's a miracle they're diamond on support, truly.. Im guessing theyre a healbot moira or mercy for sure..
As a Diamond Ana i feel attacked. My DPS is still low Plat :( “That Ashe is on Cart now there is an Ana sleeping her what is happenin in the kill cam” laughed so hard dude 😂😂😂 Also wtf is that Ashe Portrait lmaooo
Moira is one of those comically easy characters, and I would know since I used her to get a free ride from Plat to Master 1. Fade is just such an insane ability and her healing output is incredible across multiple players. The only issue is that she doesn’t take much aim or positioning (fade is too good lol), so transitioning to other roles can be a problem.
Even transitioning to other support heroes is a problem.. except maybe Mercy.. You don't want a Moira main on Ana in your comp games lol Fade is very good but once you start hitting high ranks people punish you for using it so you have to play super passive after using it which is limiting you from being in range to heal.. it depends on the map too
Plsss this is so me when I tried dps in comp the other day. I’m a flop gold support player on console (I play moira, mercy, kiri mainly and the others sometimes when needed but I’m bad at them). Anyways I was just feeding like crazy😭 Missing all my shots. Also having ppl coming for you at all angles was stressful as hell lmao. I was shaking ngl. It was a struggle out there and lol I was switching so much it felt like I was playing mystery heroes. Now I get why ppl get so mad at supports because they be blind af sometimes and tunnel vision on the tank way too much. And not having an easy way out when things get bad was something to get used to as well because most supports have movement abilities to keep them alive and it’s made me realise how important positioning is.
my #1 tip is to remember that on dps you can’t heal yourself. when you get to around half health unless you’re sure you can finish the enemy off it’s best to fall back to a support or healthpack and then get back into the fight.
also, high ground is very strong for most dps. positioning is very very dependent on your team comp, the enemy team comp, as well as the map but as a rule of thumb always make sure you have a wall or something you can hide behind as well as always having multiple way outs
@@akirashope6198 ok thank u for the tips! I’ll try to use cover more often because sometimes I forget & just stand in the open lol😭 I’m 2W/13L on dps rn so I need to start improving asap because it’s just embarrassing atp
Low mechanical knowledge (most of all, aim) leads to a lot of mistakes. My gameplay is the same when I play ashe, yet Im a Diamond dps. You just have to utilize your strengths as a player. Good "game sense?" play mobile characters that can capitalize on it: symm, tracer, reaper, even genji. Forcing yourself to play hitscan-heavy w\o any aim skill characters is like entering heavyweigh lifting competition while being a professional runner
Yeah this person would benefit on less hitscan heavy heroes or even tracer more because ooof. Not to mention that those same characters have an escape ability similar to fade, so they can transition the times when to fade with those other heroes
I'd even suggest trying Sombra if it were not for the mechanical skill needed. But she has an easy escape too and her utility helps disrupt enemies and give your team a push like a lot of supports are used to doing (except for Moira, oops). I like to play Sombra like a Kiriko going off angle for easy picks
@@ccricers Sombra is fine, specifically in current meta. And 60 ammo smg isnt that hard to hit. The only problem is that her safety tools need a bit more knowledge to keep the uptime high
My plat brain(3 roles there) clearly is not ready to diamond yet, because didn't see the smurf tank there(especially in 13:12 when he ults half hp 1vs5) and apparently it was obvious.
You can tell they play Moira from their positioning because they don't know how to retreat. They start well but Moira can just fix any bad positioning and it's really showing here. Sojourn looked better because she has an incredibly good dash, similar to Moira fade. This is why you don't use Moira as a crutch because her skills DO NOT translate well to other characters. Ana players can play ash very well because they hold the same position and similar ads skill. Bap and soldier are similar. Genji and kiriko. Rein and brig. Lucio any dive character. Moira is just her own thing.
this is so funny, i’m plat support and i usually play with my friend who is a diamond 1 moira one trick. when we get tired of queuing support we play dps to goof around cus we’re both bronze lmfao
Very nice to see people in the comments slander support mains. I see we're in the presence of 100% accuracy gamers. At least this person doesn't take themselves too seriously, unlike most of you. And btw, for a bronze dps, this ain't bad. You're all just hating because they said they were a diamond Moira main. If you didn't know about that, none of you would have been this rude
Tbh, I expected the diamond player to rule on that lobby, but I guess when you only play Moira, it's hard to play heroes who require aim. At this point, he should play Genji, with his game sense, he should do great
idk why people harp so much on Moira aim; you still have to have good tracking to get value and that can easily be converted to precision aim with practice. i personally love projectile heroes and my time as a Moira main has really helped my tracking abilities.
@@jivemelonou only need mediocre tracking with Moria. The hurtbox her purple beam uses is several times larger than regular player hit boxes so you can be a meter off target and still hit them. ACYM5 is a workshop code you use to see how insanely generous her tracking actually is. Mei and Sym are the closest in terms of tracking and the effective size of the hurtbox they use is about half the size on some characters. Moria’s hurtbox for Lucia is literally twice his height, Mei only gets about a 35% vertical leeway with him. A player doing 2-3 meter wide strafes won’t be able to break Moria’s beam even if the Moria never even adjusts her aim. Your tracking really doesn’t need to be that good. Hitscans with aggressive spread would probably be a better fit for a Moria style aim.
@@SuperThest you are greatly exaggerating the scope of her lock on. I've seen Moira's hurt boxes and from experience you pretty much have to have your cross hair close to the enemy/on them for it to do damage.
I am Plat support and ended up Gold tank and dps just from learning positioning and watching how other people play while I pocket them/help them... I am not sure how y'all are struggling. It did take me a few days to get used to dps a little since low ranks had no real teamwork and I'm more of a projectile user on Hanzo/Genji/Mei mostly (despite being a Mercy/Ana main), plus D.va and Sigma main, but... It felt doable.
@@flynnfnbr7130 Try thinking of playing dps as sigma when you have a rock but have low HP and your shield is broken. It might help! Will make you think of positioning better and thinking you're important, valuing your life over picks if it isn't a guarantee trade.
I could tell the same thing. I am diamond tank and i am silver on dps. I wouldn't rank me higher. But these days silver is not silver anymore.... you can have the most bot like players those run into walls and mates and so on. or you have players like me playing ok..... its so strange
Yeah it’s so weird how different skill levels are in certain rank (I’m in gold) because there are some people that play like they’ve never played overwatch in their life, then there are sweats that def don’t feel like they should be as low as gold at all and then there are people like me that are just average. Idk it’s strange. One game I’m fighting for my life then the next it’s easy breezy and feels like I’m playing against bots😭
@@livinglegendlanadelrey exactly!! Like my first comp game I really was struggling because it felt like my teammates were bots but like 2 games later it's so easy.. comp is so confusing
@callmekermy9946 I could never tbh I prefer to play longer range characters like Ashe and Ana but they are much more mechanically intensive. diving is scary to me
I mean, Moira pretty much is freelo till around plat/diamond so that part doesn't really give much to go off of.. I mean, this is a Bronze lobby, should be able to surf through this but somehow isn't securing win conditions every fight. Not playing poorly at all, but again this is Bronze not Diamond. Playing not poorly is not exactly a hard baseline to reach. Some fundamentals are there, but critical awareness and rotations are borderline none-existent, which is typical of most Moira players in diamond too.
Emongg, have you been watching the same vod? those supps barely even knew that poor ashe/sojourn even existed.. sadly that's how it goes for dps in low rank.
I'm sorry, but how can you be bronze on dps and diamond on another role? I am mostly a Moira one trick in comp, but I still placed gold/plat in dps and gold/plat in Tank (and I NEVER, EVER play tank).
yes, you PLACED there. the overwhelming majority of the player base is placed in gold and plat lol watch what happens if you play your off roles in comp consistently. your rank will change
Let's be honest! If a Moira Diamond switches to DPS it's always a bad sign🤣🤣🤣🤣 In Bronze you don't need a lot of aim! Easy rank up with consistency! Just Focus on surviving and you are good!
It doesant matter the rank all moira mains are essentialy bronze no aim and depends on healed team to kill since no one in diamond lose a avarage dual to a fucking moira specialy if she dont have a fade
@@JohnSmith-zk3kd usualy 2 hs is enough to deal with him somone in diamond should have a good aim to not panick and focus on hs since she takes a time to kill but moira is usualy in the ass of the enemy tank ots easier to just put presure to tank so that moira closes and gets killed since usualy moira players are bad at making any decisions
i haven't watched the video yet, but personally as a diamond support, maining baptiste and ana but able to play zen, brig, mercy, obviously moira too, i hate to see moiras in these ranks on my team, there is no utility they bring to the table, plus their aim is absolute dog. positioning? never knew her. theres only rare circumstances id play moira and thats if i need to get to the point to stall, or if its on push cuz that gamemode is also dogshit
Worst is when the enemy goes mei or something tanky with self heals and the moira is just left useless unable to even apply tiny bits of backline pressure to them anymore and when they swap they become useless because every other support takes infinitely more skill so they become a bronze ana or lucio in your game 😂
Personally, I hate only one type of Moira players: the one who want to dps only, but end up feeding, being always dead and blaming team, with stats like 3k dmg, 2k healing and 10+ death. And backline dps Moiras who know their timings, never dead and always here to heal you are amazing players.
I love Moira so much, she's so fun to climb with. Got to Masters 3 with Moira, and my dps is rotting in Plat and my Tank in Gold. I recommend Moira to everyone who wants to climb, or to masochists like myself that enjoy playing her.
@@livinglegendlanadelrey You need to do damage and distract enemies with Moira to get at least some utility out of her. Every damage ball is 9% of your ult, and if you hard pocket your tank, you will win. Do you just dps with her is a very misleading question.
love how emongg always finds the nicest and most constructive way to give criticism without totally taking away from the humor of what’s happening, it always gives off a great vibe of “laughing with them, not at them” and overall makes the community one of the most positive and friendly communities I’ve ever been a part of :)
meanwhile, flats just absolutely flames bronzes for making mistakes that are obvious to others but not to them. they're like two sides of the same coin 😂😂
Hey, that is me! thank you for putting me in a video Emongg and the great advise! comments go easy on me :)
Unfortunately for you this was a booster match for the enemy JQ. They only died when you shot at them which is why you were being so hard focused. I'm on the EU server, cheating and boosting is rampant so I see this stuff all the time. Good game.
The most painful part of this video was the Mercy never pocketing Ashe…as a Mercy main, if I see an Ashe on my team, I’m shoving that blue beam right up their ass. Boosted dynamite is sooo satisfying!
That was my reaction especially when Ashe was half health for like 25 seconds until Ana came back!
As someone who mains ashe and gets mercy pockets almost every game, I appreciate you but it's extremely stressful.
75% of the time id rather have another support help me out with finishing off kills like zen, bap, ana, or Lucio, than putting all of the pressure (and the blame in case of a loss) on me.
Too many times I get mercy's screaming at me for not killing the pharmamercy enough and I'm thinking why don't you switch to ana or bap and help me shoot them out of the sky instead of yelling at me damn.
@@HmongHeroo fr omg there was a moment where they had low health and the mercy was RIGHT NEXT TO THEM it was stressing me outttt
I boost whoever is hitting their shots
God bless you
Homie went from Moira to Widow? Love the confidence but boy was that a rude awakening.
Should've started ashe, he actually doesn't have a bad ashe
@@jaydenhohman2590except for the fact that it takes so long to aim and then miss that people have already been healed back up in a higher elo. Your better off missing more shots and hitting some crucial ones that kill a target then not shooting those shots either way.
Like yes reloads on ashe takes time so make them count but if you won't kill anything because you shoot so slow it doesn't matter.
I kinda get the logic. Moira (an aimless back line character) and then widow (an aimless back line character)
The bad aim is expected, but the bronze-level positioning and staggering just goes to show how delightful of a hero Moira is. Truly blessed to have her in the game.
Fade is just too good of an ability. It can lead to bad habits unfortunately. Still, realising you can't play like her when you aren't Moira is what makes good Moira players... I think lmao
I'm a former (OW1) plat Moira main, and I managed to get plat on tank and silver on DPS. She's really not that low-skill, it's the issue of people "maining" a character by only playing them and nobody else. I "main" heroes by prioritizing playing them but if we need X Y or Z I play X Y or Z.
@@extraterrestrial8888you’re flexing that you managed to get silver on dps?
@@foxi-xo nope. Just putting into context my lack of DPS skill.
@@extraterrestrial8888 but you said she’s not that low skill…?
I was a gold tank and silver support all OW1. Never was able to Q for DPS. Then OW2 had shorter Qs so I dps’d for giggles. Now I find myself Diamond 4 playing a way better Sojourn / Widow than I ever expected as a previous Rein / Moira main. Weirdly still gold/silver other roles.
Oh it's like me. I only play dps to make myself laugh. I'm almost always on support.
Me too 💀 my dumbass can’t aim for shit so I only go on support for shits and gigs
same LOLLL i rlly only play torb and mei to make myself laugh fr.
YEPP my duo and I are support mains, and we always play dps in QP after having a tough time in comp. It always make me laugh at how bad I am at securing kills😂
Exactly me, or also funny enough I only play a good widow in mystery heroes. Any other game mode will lead to me seeing “defeat”
Personally, I became a LOT more accurate on hitscan heroes once I lowered my mouse speed. By the looks of it the same thing might be happening here.
I thought it was the opposite XD. They looked sluggish to follow moving heros and couldn't make close shots so I assumed their sens was too low.
15:00 i woulda had to uninstall after that💀
It's amazing seeing how moira mains get hit in the face with their real level of skill when they play someone else.
As a Moria Main Myself. I can agree. I mostly play her just because my team always needs a good Healer and the DPS can make all the difference. However I like playing Tank and Damage when I can.
As another Moira main, I’ll chase you down with an orb.
As another Moira main, I’ll skill orb u across the map in my masters games. Tho I am low diamond dps and tank😂🤷♀️
@@kingkongsta4051 let’s battle someday in a 8 player full Moira lobby battle for dominance
If only you could say that just about Moiras. Mercy mains are obvious example of non-transferable skill, and another example are probably "current meta" tanks. I remember how I was low plat in ow1, but got to masters when Zarya was meta.
2:48 the audacity of alt-tab'ing during competitive match 💀
After watching this i can confidently say i main everything, was a diamond tank, gold in dps and supp, i feel a lot better about my skill range now
It seems like this Sojourn either doesn't know or forgets that she can use her regular primary fire while in her ult to charge the rail gun so much faster (unless they changed that)
I like how the enemy team stacked 4 ultimates
First time watching overwatch? 😂
Once that happened in one of my games and the enemy team just bashed us with all of their alts lol we could do absolutely nothing because we were close to end game
Imma keep saying it.. if you are in bronze and cant seem to climb, you deserve to be in bronze.. There's no reason for someone who is better than bronze to get stuck with the worst of the worst players in the game, an average silver could solo a bronze lobby if they had a good day..
it's a miracle they're diamond on support, truly.. Im guessing theyre a healbot moira or mercy for sure..
As a Diamond Ana i feel attacked. My DPS is still low Plat :(
“That Ashe is on Cart now there is an Ana sleeping her what is happenin in the kill cam” laughed so hard dude 😂😂😂
Also wtf is that Ashe Portrait lmaooo
diamond ana is a huge difference to diamond moira lol.
@@nobuflow6800y dps is low plat in gold border tho :(
Also what manga is that profile pic from?
@@wildeskompositum9556the manga is kingdom, it’s pretty good but it’s a very gory historical seinen
@@Gunnaboy5you talkin to a berserk fan :D Thanks tho
Right there with you as a diamond ana and low plat DPS
I think more people need to play Zen and get an understanding of how to position and rotate as a fight progresses...
I think some of his poor positioning and weird plays were more of a result of him being hard focused on his mechanics.
Moira is one of those comically easy characters, and I would know since I used her to get a free ride from Plat to Master 1. Fade is just such an insane ability and her healing output is incredible across multiple players. The only issue is that she doesn’t take much aim or positioning (fade is too good lol), so transitioning to other roles can be a problem.
This is how I felt until I realized I can’t use fade before I hit the ground in sigma’s ult anymore. Why did they remove that???
@@OhnooimdyingCause if characters like Tracer and Sombra can't get out for free via their abilities neither should characters like Moira or Reaper
Even transitioning to other support heroes is a problem.. except maybe Mercy.. You don't want a Moira main on Ana in your comp games lol
Fade is very good but once you start hitting high ranks people punish you for using it so you have to play super passive after using it which is limiting you from being in range to heal.. it depends on the map too
@@salimarg9702 yeah I play a lot of moira and if I’m playing Ana it’s normally over for my team before the game even starts😭
I always struggle to play moira.. I'm not that good at her and I always die instantly :,)
Anyone know the songs that were used in today's video? Please and thank you ❤
Honestly say this was a Diamond Ana or something then they would’ve stood a better chance
As a Moira main, I prefer Torb or Echo
I hate being good at support but sucking badly as dps haha
it’s so embarrassing 😭😭 i climbed to masters on support but am hard stuck plat on dps (though i don’t play often tbh)
@@nanabunz I’m hard stuck plat and made it to gm5 season 1 of ow2, where I’ve just stayed and been happy lol
@@nanabunzthis me in a couple of years :(
I play a lot of Mei because of this, good sustain and not as aim intensive
@@Waffl3B1T thats fuckin awesome!!
Plsss this is so me when I tried dps in comp the other day. I’m a flop gold support player on console (I play moira, mercy, kiri mainly and the others sometimes when needed but I’m bad at them). Anyways I was just feeding like crazy😭 Missing all my shots. Also having ppl coming for you at all angles was stressful as hell lmao. I was shaking ngl. It was a struggle out there and lol I was switching so much it felt like I was playing mystery heroes. Now I get why ppl get so mad at supports because they be blind af sometimes and tunnel vision on the tank way too much. And not having an easy way out when things get bad was something to get used to as well because most supports have movement abilities to keep them alive and it’s made me realise how important positioning is.
Btw if anyone has tips on positioning + any general tips for dps pls tell me because I def need them.
my #1 tip is to remember that on dps you can’t heal yourself. when you get to around half health unless you’re sure you can finish the enemy off it’s best to fall back to a support or healthpack and then get back into the fight.
also, high ground is very strong for most dps. positioning is very very dependent on your team comp, the enemy team comp, as well as the map but as a rule of thumb always make sure you have a wall or something you can hide behind as well as always having multiple way outs
@@akirashope6198 ok thank u for the tips! I’ll try to use cover more often because sometimes I forget & just stand in the open lol😭 I’m 2W/13L on dps rn so I need to start improving asap because it’s just embarrassing atp
Bro that mans aim is of if i let my mini yorkie play that match i wany him to know me and him had the sqme impact in that game
Low mechanical knowledge (most of all, aim) leads to a lot of mistakes. My gameplay is the same when I play ashe, yet Im a Diamond dps. You just have to utilize your strengths as a player. Good "game sense?" play mobile characters that can capitalize on it: symm, tracer, reaper, even genji. Forcing yourself to play hitscan-heavy w\o any aim skill characters is like entering heavyweigh lifting competition while being a professional runner
Yeah this person would benefit on less hitscan heavy heroes or even tracer more because ooof. Not to mention that those same characters have an escape ability similar to fade, so they can transition the times when to fade with those other heroes
I'd even suggest trying Sombra if it were not for the mechanical skill needed. But she has an easy escape too and her utility helps disrupt enemies and give your team a push like a lot of supports are used to doing (except for Moira, oops). I like to play Sombra like a Kiriko going off angle for easy picks
@@ccricers Sombra is fine, specifically in current meta. And 60 ammo smg isnt that hard to hit. The only problem is that her safety tools need a bit more knowledge to keep the uptime high
@@R_frozen yeah.. whenever I play sombra I always forget I can teleport to somewhere safe when I'm dying :,)
Do we have an ETA for the Randomizer workshop code. So so so excited to play with friends
My plat brain(3 roles there) clearly is not ready to diamond yet, because didn't see the smurf tank there(especially in 13:12 when he ults half hp 1vs5) and apparently it was obvious.
They have babygoat brain syndrome, like me. Once someone goes for them their brain freezes and falls over 😂😅
Playing like this you won't get past gold, way too much panic.
You can tell they play Moira from their positioning because they don't know how to retreat. They start well but Moira can just fix any bad positioning and it's really showing here. Sojourn looked better because she has an incredibly good dash, similar to Moira fade. This is why you don't use Moira as a crutch because her skills DO NOT translate well to other characters. Ana players can play ash very well because they hold the same position and similar ads skill. Bap and soldier are similar. Genji and kiriko. Rein and brig. Lucio any dive character. Moira is just her own thing.
this is so funny, i’m plat support and i usually play with my friend who is a diamond 1 moira one trick. when we get tired of queuing support we play dps to goof around cus we’re both bronze lmfao
Who else revisited this video after watching the “where are they now” video to see where they came from
Pretty much just Moira main tries to play a character requiring aim
Bro is positioned like an ana circut royal last point is easy because of the high ground same thing with the bastion, you can tell it's bronze
If they work on the aim they will for sure make it to gold
All you need is aim to reach gold 😂
@@jasonmension3979 All you need is aim to reach masters.
I hate how most Ashe players almost always shoot their tnt
Very nice to see people in the comments slander support mains. I see we're in the presence of 100% accuracy gamers. At least this person doesn't take themselves too seriously, unlike most of you. And btw, for a bronze dps, this ain't bad. You're all just hating because they said they were a diamond Moira main. If you didn't know about that, none of you would have been this rude
Tbh, I expected the diamond player to rule on that lobby, but I guess when you only play Moira, it's hard to play heroes who require aim. At this point, he should play Genji, with his game sense, he should do great
idk why people harp so much on Moira aim; you still have to have good tracking to get value and that can easily be converted to precision aim with practice. i personally love projectile heroes and my time as a Moira main has really helped my tracking abilities.
@@jivemelonou only need mediocre tracking with Moria. The hurtbox her purple beam uses is several times larger than regular player hit boxes so you can be a meter off target and still hit them. ACYM5 is a workshop code you use to see how insanely generous her tracking actually is. Mei and Sym are the closest in terms of tracking and the effective size of the hurtbox they use is about half the size on some characters. Moria’s hurtbox for Lucia is literally twice his height, Mei only gets about a 35% vertical leeway with him. A player doing 2-3 meter wide strafes won’t be able to break Moria’s beam even if the Moria never even adjusts her aim. Your tracking really doesn’t need to be that good.
Hitscans with aggressive spread would probably be a better fit for a Moria style aim.
@@SuperThest you are greatly exaggerating the scope of her lock on. I've seen Moira's hurt boxes and from experience you pretty much have to have your cross hair close to the enemy/on them for it to do damage.
@@Ravitas3 Why would you think a moira player would do well on genji?
lol diamond ana/kiri here, i end up in high silver/low gold every season on dps lmao, my aim is ass tho
EMONG did NOT give A Description on HOW THEY should be Reacting to the enemy.
fr im masters tank and when i play dps im dumb asf lol
I am Plat support and ended up Gold tank and dps just from learning positioning and watching how other people play while I pocket them/help them... I am not sure how y'all are struggling. It did take me a few days to get used to dps a little since low ranks had no real teamwork and I'm more of a projectile user on Hanzo/Genji/Mei mostly (despite being a Mercy/Ana main), plus D.va and Sigma main, but... It felt doable.
@@satamiko yea i main sigma
@@flynnfnbr7130 Try thinking of playing dps as sigma when you have a rock but have low HP and your shield is broken. It might help! Will make you think of positioning better and thinking you're important, valuing your life over picks if it isn't a guarantee trade.
Average Moria main
I could tell the same thing. I am diamond tank and i am silver on dps. I wouldn't rank me higher. But these days silver is not silver anymore.... you can have the most bot like players those run into walls and mates and so on. or you have players like me playing ok..... its so strange
Yeah it’s so weird how different skill levels are in certain rank (I’m in gold) because there are some people that play like they’ve never played overwatch in their life, then there are sweats that def don’t feel like they should be as low as gold at all and then there are people like me that are just average. Idk it’s strange. One game I’m fighting for my life then the next it’s easy breezy and feels like I’m playing against bots😭
@@livinglegendlanadelrey exactly!! Like my first comp game I really was struggling because it felt like my teammates were bots but like 2 games later it's so easy.. comp is so confusing
Why would a Moira main think they can play Widow?!😂😂😂😂😂😂 Silly dummy!😂😂😂
Dps is sooo much easier i can just focus on damage dont have to worry about healing every .27 secs
Personally I get silver 4... Somehow I play the heroes with the most mechanics when I can't even aim for my life
honestly me too but it's good to practice if u want to improve
@@dearfauxpas Oh for sure, honestly I just find it funny tbh
@@callmekermy9946 you ever take a good position and nobody knows you're there... and suddenly your accuracy lowers to 0%? i always have so much fun 😐
@@dearfauxpas honestly my position usually ends up being their backline, I love diving even as moira but on dps it's far more risky
@callmekermy9946 I could never tbh I prefer to play longer range characters like Ashe and Ana but they are much more mechanically intensive. diving is scary to me
I get really annoyed when I see people ride the payload. Why stand still on top totally exposed when you can use it for cover???
Bronze forgets you can shoot without the sight I swear lmao
I think that diamond moira rank is role carried
I mean, Moira pretty much is freelo till around plat/diamond so that part doesn't really give much to go off of.. I mean, this is a Bronze lobby, should be able to surf through this but somehow isn't securing win conditions every fight. Not playing poorly at all, but again this is Bronze not Diamond. Playing not poorly is not exactly a hard baseline to reach. Some fundamentals are there, but critical awareness and rotations are borderline none-existent, which is typical of most Moira players in diamond too.
Emongg, have you been watching the same vod? those supps barely even knew that poor ashe/sojourn even existed.. sadly that's how it goes for dps in low rank.
I'm sorry, but how can you be bronze on dps and diamond on another role? I am mostly a Moira one trick in comp, but I still placed gold/plat in dps and gold/plat in Tank (and I NEVER, EVER play tank).
yes, you PLACED there. the overwhelming majority of the player base is placed in gold and plat lol watch what happens if you play your off roles in comp consistently. your rank will change
Let's be honest! If a Moira Diamond switches to DPS it's always a bad sign🤣🤣🤣🤣
In Bronze you don't need a lot of aim! Easy rank up with consistency! Just Focus on surviving and you are good!
these are the types of moira players that throw my diamond matches...
He's not that bad😅❤❤
Debatable
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How can 7 people like the video, if it's only been up for 2 mins, when it's an 18 min video??
u can like it just bc you want to support Emongg
It doesant matter the rank all moira mains are essentialy bronze no aim and depends on healed team to kill since no one in diamond lose a avarage dual to a fucking moira specialy if she dont have a fade
you can easily lose a dual to moira if she jiggles a wall and orb her self. the best option is HS her and force fade or run
@@JohnSmith-zk3kd usualy 2 hs is enough to deal with him somone in diamond should have a good aim to not panick and focus on hs since she takes a time to kill but moira is usualy in the ass of the enemy tank ots easier to just put presure to tank so that moira closes and gets killed since usualy moira players are bad at making any decisions
No there are some crazy good moira players like tesla & mariahcareyow
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i haven't watched the video yet, but personally as a diamond support, maining baptiste and ana but able to play zen, brig, mercy, obviously moira too, i hate to see moiras in these ranks on my team, there is no utility they bring to the table, plus their aim is absolute dog. positioning? never knew her. theres only rare circumstances id play moira and thats if i need to get to the point to stall, or if its on push cuz that gamemode is also dogshit
Worst is when the enemy goes mei or something tanky with self heals and the moira is just left useless unable to even apply tiny bits of backline pressure to them anymore and when they swap they become useless because every other support takes infinitely more skill so they become a bronze ana or lucio in your game 😂
@@jasonmension3979if a Moria can force a Mei to use cryo then that’s actually pretty solid value.
Personally, I hate only one type of Moira players: the one who want to dps only, but end up feeding, being always dead and blaming team, with stats like 3k dmg, 2k healing and 10+ death. And backline dps Moiras who know their timings, never dead and always here to heal you are amazing players.
Tiktok moira aim is crazy i didn't expect her to do more than100 dmg 😮😮😮
I love Moira so much, she's so fun to climb with. Got to Masters 3 with Moira, and my dps is rotting in Plat and my Tank in Gold. I recommend Moira to everyone who wants to climb, or to masochists like myself that enjoy playing her.
Do u just dps with her?
@@livinglegendlanadelrey You need to do damage and distract enemies with Moira to get at least some utility out of her. Every damage ball is 9% of your ult, and if you hard pocket your tank, you will win. Do you just dps with her is a very misleading question.
Their supports were horrible
I’m GM1 tank, GM4 support, and Diamond 2 DPS 🤣
That's strange, i can't seem to find who asked 🤔
I'm a Diamond DPS, but it's way more fun to watch Bronze supports than Bronze DPS. At least you get a bird's eye view of everyone's silliness.