Rivian R1S Cold Weather Consumption At 60, 70, & 80 MPH
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2022
- Kyle is back with another consumption test, this time with the Rivian R1S. The vehicle is equipped with the 20" A/T wheel and tire pack in black. Kyle runs our efficiency loop in all-purpose mode at 60, 70, and 80 mph to see how speed affects efficiency.
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I want to thank Kyle for doing such thorough and comprehensive testing. It really makes a difference and I know how much work he puts into this testing.
Love this series focused on R1S! Had my reservation for more than 2 yrs and latest update says. I should get delivery in Feb/March. These vids are telling me everything I’ve been wanting to know more about!!
Hope you enjoy your truck soon
Looks like we should get ours around the same time! Got a Blue/white/black 20s/skids on mine
Congrats! Enjoy! I've got a long wait!😃
Gotta give it to Kyle for doing these tests, especially when its close to 30degF and it's the middle of the night. Great vid and commentary.
I can't wait for my April-June delivery window to get here.I am glad you will be running the efficiency test on the 20's, since that is what I have configured.
Nice! It would be interesting to do a "Speed for max efficiency" test, with a graph of speed on X axis and efficiency on Y axis, that looks like an inverted parabola. The peak would indicate the most efficient speed.
Appreciate all the work being put in! Great content
Excited for the comparison to 21” wheels/tire combo!
Curious to see you do another test when it’s really frigid out late January to February
THis is one of the viñedos Ive been WAITING FOR!!! I am looking at going skiing this winter at a resort with no charger anywhere close. REally want to know about cold driving, and cold sitting for the day!!!
Got my R1S LE a couple of weeks ago, but still prefer to have Kyle do these test so I don’t have to :-). Do love the Halloween Easter egg 🎃. The people it sees on the screen turn to green zombies 😂.
Thanks, this is the review I needed. Let me know if you want me to test it in Alaska ;)
I used to be out late at night all the time, then I learned why you shouldn't be out late at night and now I am home nice and early all the time.
Interesting data points to compare to my warm weather R1T testing in almost identical procedure
"60mph one had to run the cabin heat longer because we spent more time driving, so not apples to apples" - Actually, isn't it still apples to apples? That additional power consumption is captured in your 2.08 mi/kWh figure. I guess if you were talking theoretical efficiency of just the motors it's not apples to apples, but for overall practical power draw it is.
Great insight, I ride 100% in the old men squishy mode in the city lol However long trips I go into conserve mode right away to maximize range and charging times ;)
2 am is crime time! lol Be safe out there!
The actual consumption is what the charger delivered, I would say. From your 60 mph test, one can see that the charger delivered (13:25) 32.056 kWh, and you drove 57.9 miles with a consumption of 2.08 miles/kWh (12:13).
That means the car shows a consumption of 481 Wh/mi, and the recharged consumption is 554 Wh/mi. That is an increase of about 15 %.
If we assume that the same 15 % apply for the 80 mph test, then the real consumption is like 723 Wh/mi (~45 kWh/100km). This is really much! OK, fine, the car is a large car and it was very cold during your test, but still a high consumption, especially when it comes to energy cost estimation.
Nice comparison. Thanks for the video. Short and to the point. Not certain this could be described as a ‘cold weather’ test. Hopefully, you’ll be able to do an efficiency test in colder temperatures (20, 10, 0 F). That’s quite common in Minnesota winters. Also, could you post a similar test for the R1T? Thanks again.
LOL yep, I'm in Calgary, which has mild Canadian winters. Have a Lightning, did a road trip into the mountains last weekend - saw temps as high as -4 C and as low as -20C (just under 0F for those without Google). Got just lower than 40kwh/100km - you can take the math from there. :) That's a mix of 70 mph and 50-60mph, on Blizzak DM-V2's. These "cold" tests hovering around 0C, that's a nice warm day for 6 months of the year for a lot of northern central US and most of Canada.
I'm "excited" to see how the truck does when it's -35. Another month or so and I expect we'll have that chance. I'm expecting 200-250km of usable range. We do the Edmonton run regularly enough, so should get some "real" winter data at 70mph / 110kph.
Also, congrats on that award you won in the other comment! 🤣
That side and rear 3/4ths view reminds me of our Jeep Grand Cherokee L.
Kyle, can you please also include wh/km when showing efficiency numbers? Thank you!
When do you plan on range testing the Ioniq 6? Be nice to do multiple speed loops with it too. Looking forward to see efficiency in the 4.0-5.0 instead of the 1.x
Just a look at the "charging station altercations' to expect in the future, when everyone will have to wait in line every time they want to charge their vehicles. 😂
Cops distracted Kyle 😅. He didn't close the charging door. Will that automatically close when you put it in drive or reverse?
wow with the temps - UK been hitting 20C and main land Europe been hitting 25 to 35C so far from cold
Standard ride height, high regen, soft suspension. Yep, me too.
I knew traditional truck shape has horrible aero dynamics but that 80MPH inefficiency is shockingly back. Tesla Semi should be able to beat that! Fantastic test!!!
Can we get a ride comfort/ road noise review compared to like.. a Range Rover or Mercedes GLS? Really curious to see how quiet and comfortable the vehicle is. My Model Y long range with 19” rims, ride and road noise is terrible (even with the tires aired down to 38psi) when compared to my 2012 genesis sedan 3.8 with 18” rims.
I think the real question is, will the 21" wheel/tire combo allow you to drive a little faster but get the same range or efficiency result at the higher speed?
What is the charging speed...how long/many minutes does it take to charge up to 50%, 80%?
29 F is cold? When i drove my Chevrolet Bolt EUV to work this morning, it was -13 F when i arrived at work. My power was reduced because of the temperature.
Can you do a luggage test or a Model X cargo comparison?
Kyle, it must be cold; I think you are using I25 not I70 to get to Cheyenne from Wellington.
Kyle, you should know nothing good happens after midnight... except for Out of Spec of course! :D
Can you do headlight tests? The lights on this one are misaligned and stuff like that annoys me :D
edit: and it would be great to see km and kwh/100km conversions on the screen :)
Why do they use a clutch disconnect for the rear axles in conserve mode? Can’t they just cut power to the motors themselves? Does this mean that the rear motors are spinning just not turning the axles in conserve mode?
What did u use for the filming ? A iPhone ?
“At least no one got shot”. That’s always good when you can avoid that during a range test.
I wanted to use this for mammoth trips. But not at those efficiency numbers. Will take forever to get up there.
It’s going to be windy, colder, and climbing elevation. Probably end up being like 1 mile per kWh. The charging curve makes it worse
Thanks Kyle for the late night work. The 80mph efficiency is horrible. Assuming 125 kWh of usable battery, 1.59 mi/kWh implies less than 200 miles of range. The 70mph efficiency was also not good. Compared to an ICE vehicle, the variability in range for the Rivian doesn't inspire confidence. Combined with charging times, it's bumming me out that they clearly are not good road trip vehicles.
Can you explain how you got 36.3kWh in the 80mph test?
Heating the cabin with electricity is about as inefficient as you can get?
Did the trip reset at 16:45? Still showing 1.8mi/kwh
I saw that too. I wonder if that skewed the value for the 80 mph test
"It's getting wild at the charger!" hahahaha
This does appear to be a bit of a worst-case for the conditions. Kyle is running the car at normal height and 4WD. Even if just left in auto it would step down a few inches which can help, although I'm not sure how much.
3-4% in my experience before I flipped my R1S. The SUV should be similar
When you swap out the tires, I’d be curious about what you have to do in the system for it to recognize the fact that you’ve done that. Or will the visuals always show the original graphics? I have to imagine it will self adjust to show you the improved range.
There is currently no way to let the vehicle know you have swapped wheels from the UI. You have to visit the service center for adjustments.
I swapped my 21” to 20” but it doesn't bother me which wheels the car is showing on the screen. Will ask them to change it in the settings during my next service visit if they will not add this setting to the incoming software updates
Thought the scaling would be worse, honestly. Losses should be mostly air pressure drag, and that power scales with the cube of speed, so 50-60% here. Really needs a heat pump.
Let us know what VINS you’re seeing getting delivered over time! Id love to have a better idea about where Rivian is in thei delivery order!!
He lives in NJ right?, also nice Apple Watch flex
Colorado
Does Rivian now allow us to change the color of the ambient lighting?
He had Halloween mode on giving Red ambient lights.
@@deanerichan7284 oh so it is RGB. Glad they can allow customers to change colors in the future if they enable by software
Not throw it in reverse Terry 😂🤣😂🤣
rivian needs to make a midsize sedan
16:22 That is why Cybertruck is supposed to be bullet proof. 😉
Skip on ahead to 18:25 for the results
I guess this is a "more affordable" EV - when compared to a Lucid Dream Edition.
Exactly. For the "low price" of 75K, it's a no brainer.
Range test on multiple levels.
So going 33% faster needs 25% more energy. Not bad if you think about it.
I guess the small increase is due to a) high rolling resistance tires (consumption due to rolling resistance does not increase with speed) and b) heating the big cabin (consumption due to heating actually decreases with shorter driving time).
Kind of surprised at the ranges here. Really bad for a 135 kWh battery pack, and at this price point. I know it's a very nice car, but ....
I didn't see it stated, but is this the Quad or Dual motor version? I've reserved an R1S with the intention of going Dual. Thanks.
He did state quad motor at the beginning
@@rmac2592 Missed that remark, thanks
Frankly, this is shocking. At 60mph, your charging station said $11.22 which is slightly more than $0.19/mile. If I was driving my van on the highway at 28mpg, and paying $4.50 per gal, it would have consumed slightly more than two gals or approx $9.30. It seems to me that the power provider is ripping off the people charging at that station and perhaps others. And, that was at 60mph! I know I charge mostly at home but I put ~20,000 miles on my Model Y in the first year so did several thousand on trips. Fortunately, I only pay ~$0.08 per kwh at home. This would indicate that anyone doing travel charging would be better off in an ICE car (ignoring of course all the other expenses).
You left the charger door open
Towing video
For us European viewers can you please show the consumption numbers also as kWh/100 km for this is the measure we understand!?
There are consumption convertors on the internet. Find your favorite one and have at it.
@@mowcowbell But he wants someone to do it for him.. So hard
@@mowcowbell But it's inconvenient.
@@starsundsternchen802 I do it all the time when I watch European reviews and must convert metric to English. It's easy.
Bro that’s not cold lol wtf. I live in Toronto. Cold is below -15.
Noticeably noisier at 80!
I want an EV that can go 350 miles at 80mph.
R1S Dual Motor Max Pack.
Only about 30% more consumption at a 33% higher speed? Aerodynamics say that you will need +137% more power to move the car at that speed. But Kyle has driven the same distance, so at 80 mph the loop should have taken 33% less timer 67% of the 60 mph time. So 237% of the power times 67% of the time makes 159% of the energy needed, also at 80mph the consumption due to aerodynamics should increase by 59%. On top of that you have to add things like friction losses and electrical losses.
So why is the increase in consumption lower than one part of the theoretical increase in energy needed to move the SUV at a higher speed?
Well, the numbers are only valid if the consumption indicated is only the consumption of the traction motors, which isn’t the case here.
So, putting it short, the differences should be bigger on a warmer day. 🤓
Man the Fahrenheit system is stupid lol