I saw an airsoft guy post a video where he made an original WW1 dragoon Mosin Nagant into a "tactical carbine" and stripped all the varnish off of it. He slapped a cheap red dot on it too. "Nothing of value was lost" he said, couldn't understand why his comment section was furious with him, lol.
I shot my first deer with a K98 8mm in the early 1970's I had borrowed it from my best friends dad who brought it home from WW2 . It had the German eagle holding a wreath with a swastika in the middle of the wreath. I shot a buck at about 40 yards and when I saw the wound from the 8mm I was shocked at the damage it did. On my way home from the hunt I kept thinking about our American soldiers shot and wounded by such a powerful rifle , it changed my whole perspective on the realities of war.
Dear god can you imagine what that rifle you used is worth nowadays? Id pay good money to get a hold of one like you described, and i hate the fuckin nazis lol.
I have a DOU 43 k98 with the exact same waffenamt marking on both the receiver and barrel. The eagle is highly detailed with visible eyes and feathers and the swastika is very clear. And what this video said about recoil is true. My rifle becomes very unpleasant after the second clip of ammo.
Owning and shooting a K98K from 1936 with an ZF41 myself and I love it. Normally it's 200m and I can tell that it's quiet accurate - even with rather cheap ammo. Always a pleasure to use it. I actually bought it as my late grandfather had one of these from the same year and the same production as mine. Of course the original was lost somewhere in Russia - not so my Grandpa: He made it back home from Siberia to tell the story...
@@user-er5xc6vs6q so true - at least the first part. I assume if you have seen what any rifle in the hands of a good shooter is capable of, none of the two snipers you mentioned would laugh. Did you have the chance to shoot them both? What are your impressions?
@@HaraldHofer I have experience using the Mosin rifle and the kar98 Mauser rifle, the Mosin sniper rifle in my hands shows better results even with a PU sight. As a result, I replaced the PU sight on it with a modern 5-20x56. It is a pity that Zaitsev did not have such an opportunity
@@user-er5xc6vs6q Thanks for sharing you experience. However: the K98 Snipers were selected by there accuracy. And I assume the same applied for the Mosin. In order to get a comparable result both should be sniper variants. But frankly, I don't care too much about which rifle is "better".... :)
My great grandfather served in the battle of Kursk. He was one of the very few in his unit who managed to survive the war. He just felt lucky to be alive at that point but he always mentioned how reliable and what a superb tool for killing this rifle was.
Here's Your Guangzhou Sniper ! th-cam.com/video/n38F-0a_WhE/w-d-xo.html I have a Book about Sepp Allerberger, he was a WW2 German Sniper, and a very good one ! Most of his Duty time , he used the Mosin with Scope. Russian Snipers used Exploding bullets, so German Snipers started to use Luftwaffe Tracer Bullets ! Greetings !
Dav Gun I wouldn’t say it was exceptional at all. A standard 5 round infantry rifle just like most armies had at the start of the 20th century. Exceptional is sticking a 10 rd mag on your service rifle like the SMLE or No.4
@@wernesgruder1 its not about how many rounds you can load, it's about the performance. The kar98 can even compete with modern sniper rifles when it comes to precision and range.
Keep in mind that in the late war report the results were also heavily impacted by the ability of the shooter, not to mention the conditions on the day of shooting (a lot of impacting factors when you're shooting at 1.1 km. Also just a small note, the 80x140mm minimum accuracy acceptance standard rectangle has to be flipped, i.e. a 80mm horizontal x 140mm vertical rectangle @ 100 meters (110 yards), which is 2.8 MOA x 5 MOA, within which the 5 shot group must place. This was just the first stage of the acceptance procedure for the K98 however (there were 2 stages), in the second 5 out of 5 shots have to place within a 120mm circle at 100 m, that's 4.1 MOA. For comparison the British Enfield No.4 had to place 4 out of 5 shots with 4.5 MOA accuracy at 100 feet. These are the minimum standards every rifle had to pass in order to avoid being sent back to the factory however, hence they do NOT reflect the average accuracy of the series produced K98k or Enfield No.4, it is simply the MINIMUM requirement for the rifle to even be accepted for service, and this standard also has to reflect how many of these weapons are to be produced (over 15 million in the case of the K98), i.e. the larger the production required = the larger the multiplier needs to be applied to the expected mechanical accuracy, or you're rejecting too many rifles.
One thing that really struck me about Sepp Allerburgers book was the extreme close rangers of most of his kills( under 200m) and the immediate heat a kill would draw from the enemy. This meant he had to have an exit route pre planned and use it straight after the shot. He claimed this method was the only reason he survived when other German snipers did not. Seems being a good shot ran second to superior field craft.
Makes sense. Being such a high value asset in your platoon would mean the enemy team would put greater priority in taking you out of the fight. So getting out of the thick and away from the enemy's jurisdiction would be key in success as a sniper.
It is quite interesting of the number of kills he eventually got considering he was trained originally as a machine gunner but an injury and spending some spare time while recuperating shooting a Mosin-Nagant allowed him to learn the skills on the job.
I really enjoy 9 Hole Reviews. Professional, concise delivery without any of the tacky bravado that regularly comes with gun channels. Always a good watch 👌
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I absolutely love your Videos, especially when you are testing German weapons! Informative, straight to the point, honest and humourus at the same time. Keep up the good work! Greetings from southern Germany :)
so happy to hear you say "precision rifle" as opposed to "sniper" rifle. You are only sniping if you are shooting at human beings. The long-range precision rifle. Keep up the good work
We'd really like to, but as you can imagine, the time for doing the research and production is quite lengthy. So we can't make them as frequently our practical accuracy videos.
@@9HoleReviews I get it brother, I'm just saying this is some quality content, for example I didn't know WW2 Wehrmach had exact moa standards since most k98s of that era clock in at 5-6 moa. I was under the impression that the reason why they engaged at closer distances was the limitation of the mass produced k98s that clock under those moas. I think I speak for most of us, that quality is better than quantaty but mettc I guess.
@@tarantulathree-one8013 Those Wehrmacht rifles did indeed clock in at 2.5-6.6MOA. We quoted a study that the Wehrmacht Infantry school did on their sniper rifles and it was pretty bleh. This particular rifle+ammo for some reason is way more accurate than theirs.
@@tarantulathree-one8013 2.5-6.6MOA was a 1km 12-shot group though, which still corresponds to a man-size grouping.Remember that there is a lot of environmental between that 1000m for the projectile too.
This is a superb explanation of the sniper variant using a rifle of comparable origins as to 70yo relics. The prone and standing shooting position comparison of the butt-plate was also super interesting.
I actually ended up getting approached by a viewer who's mentor was a WW2 Wehrmacht sniper instructor who said that in the field they rarely shot prone. Really interesting hearing it from a vet from the era.
Hello guys. A great video. I was among other qualifications a sniper. One thing that one can do with the K-98 K or other sniper rifles with the higher scope due to keeping the iron site capability. I would still prefure this option even today if I was still in Service. One can hold the K-98 K but stock from underneaths with the non firing hand, with the elbow forward ( Just like the firing technique used for the MG-42 and MG-34) just like the shooter is holding the new sniper rifle. Also, like him, I also had a small sand bag under the rear of the stock and made slight adjustments with my non firing hand. Yes, it takes longer to move the bolt to fire a second shot, but a sniper's code is "One Shot, On Kill!". Also with the Semi-automatic M-21 sniper system, with was an accurized M-14 with scope, on could fire follow up shots right away. Try that technique next time with the K-98 K. I also read Sepp Allerburger's book. Very capabile sniper and highly even better than the best Soviet Snipers.
Well done, thanks for sharing! I have a postwar Czech Kar98 variant and while it's fun to shoot, as you say, those 196-grain full power loads deliver a wallop via that steel buttplate. Particularly liked your use of a "fair equivalent to actual issue" method.
This was a fun gun to use in Medal of Honor Allied Assault. Even in the video game, when you shot it you got a good sense of the power of this rifle. That game got me seriously interested in WW2 when I was about 12.
I love the way you use german words for original description of stuff and things. That made it authentic and interessting to watch. Greetings from the Country where Sepp Allerberger is born and raise. Austria
Your production value just keeps getting better Henry. I got a good laugh at the beginning and end. Thank you as always. I’ll be placing another SBI order in the near future to help support the cause.
I was a Special Forces / Special Operations sniper trained in both Urban and Field sniping. Ultimately it's the sniper and the sniper's skill that determines the effectiveness of any weapon. Semi-Automatic Sniper rifles certainely have some good advantages, as do bolt action sniper rifles. It's truely noteworthy that the German K98K sniper rifles were so effective. The concept of having both iron site and scope capability concurrently on a sniper rifle is something that should still be practiced today. However many sniper rifles of today do not have this option, which I believe is a mistake as it doesn't apply the lessons of the greatest war in history sniper experiences. Great video.
The ZF-41 was originally intended to be more of a squad DMR then an actual sniper. What was supposed to happen is the best marksman im the squad would reciver a K98 special fitted woth a rail built into the sight block, later the germans would make a simpeler "field upgrade" package with the same rail and scope mounts, but instead of coming out of the sight block it was a replacement for the sight ramp with the adition of the opposite rail for the scope. What ended up happening was germany NEEDED sniper rifles and the ZF-41 was forced to be handed to snipers and the guy that should have been a DMR got... His standard K98
You can read about the story of Sepp Allerberger in the book "Im Auge des Jägers. Der Wehrmachts-Scharfschütze Josef Allerberger". I dont know if there is an english version but I can highly recommend the book. You learn so much about Snipers in WW2, the situation of german soldiers on the eastern front and about Allerbergers personal life. Amazing book as I think. Greetings from Austria (btw Allerberger was also from Austria)
Despite its inadequate magnification, the ZF41 was the scope manufactured in the largest numbers in WW2 Germany - something like 60,000 were made. Troops using it were more like designated marksmen than snipers.
I will echo all the comments about how professional and informative these presentations are, but this one in particular got my attention. I have long since lost track of all the books and articles I’ve read about military sniping methods and equipment, but the comments and demonstrations of how the angled buttplate and the position of the scope sight were ergonomic deficiencies were completely new to me. I had also never heard that the unpleasant recoil of the Kar98K severely affected practical marksmanship by German conscripts; that is of course not surprising and is true of countless other rifles, but it’s something else I do not recall ever seeing discussed. Thank you.
Just found and subscribed to your channel, and boy, what a find! This channel is on another level compared to others; it's like a professional production team is making all of the videos! I can't believe I've never heard of this channel; I'm so glad I found it!
My dad owns one, well, it was my grandfathers trophy. He took it of a SS sniper after "dealing"with him. It still has the unit and other markings on it. The scope was damaged so it was never replaced but the rest of the rifle is in pristine condition with everything original. The only issue is that it is classified as a trophy in Croatia so i can't bring it to Canada legally. Shame.
Should probably not be measurable. At that time the tolerances were so high that the difference between k98ks probably are higher than any possible difference by this few extra inches. Barrel length usually also doesn't have that much impact anyway. What I could imagine though is that the manufacturing improved and the tolerances shrunk.
DerFurz not true, the mosin 91/30 and m44 carbine version for example, the m91/30 has about 200fps more than the m44 in muzzle velocity due to its longer barrel
@bhauger1 they were look at the requirements for sniper rifles in WW2. Even the cheapest rifles today exceed that. Of course ammunition quality is also contributing, but in general guns have gotten way more accurate. In a rifle even the smallest of tolerances makes a difference
A small bag filled with sand to place at the bottom of the K98K butt will aliviate the butt coming down and the back of the scope striking the eye or face. Also moving the non firing hand to holding the bottom of the rifle along with the sand bag can help also. Henry is actually using the above technique with the modern sniper rifle, and could have used that with the K98K. Iron sites are also a good idea even today of the scope gets damaged. I would want my sniper rifle to have both. I was a sniper in Special Forces and learned how vital it is to have a very good stable firing plateform.
Having shot the K98k with a Ziel 6 hundrets of times in prone position (with a "Turmschwenkmontage"), the scope never kissed my face - I dont know how you managed to do so
For those of you who are interested to what music is playing in the background, it is Piano Sonata No. 2 Op. 35 movement 1 “grave doppio movimento” by Frederick Chopin. I have been unable to find this version that was used in the video which is a shame because I think this is the best version
A design, made in my country, over 120 years ago, shooting about 1 MOA, being ablo to hit a target at around a kilometer. Me sitting here, with my sword and crossbow, thinking something went wrong along the way.
The 8mm Mauser is probably the most underrated cartridge in the world. Lighter projectile weight with new and improved powder makes the 8mm a serious contender.
Bernhard Langers Any self-loading rifle or machine gun has substantially less felt recoil than a bolt-action rifle of the same caliber. The cycling of the weapon helps cushion a lot of the recoil energy, whereas with a bolt-action rifle it is a very sharp recoil impulse straight into your shoulder.
Yeah, 8mm Mauser out of a bolt action is pretty unpleasant, especially prone or off a bench. So is 7.62x54R. @@ritterbruder212 Mass helps, too. MG-42 - 25+ lbs. KAR-98K - 8-9 lbs.
Phenomenal commitment to going the distance gentleman! I appreciate your attention to detail and willingness to go the extra mile. Most people go only far enough to get the views but you show true dedication to gathering accurate results and valid data. Keep up the great work!
I bought a Czech 8mm Mauser (grade NRA excellent back in 2006 (when they were still cheap) from SAMCO Imports, and fitted it with retro replica claw mount and Ziess copy 4x scope with post & crosshair reticle. Post surrender era tooled with "Arctic trigger guard" so no 'war eagles' were ever applied but still retains numerous "waffenampt" QC stampings on the sub-parts, etc. It looked brand new unissued and was heavy in cosmoline when I unboxed it. I burned up 2 drill bits drilling that excellent German Krupp steel receiver for the mounting screws. Its an excellent weapon and is VERY accurate. I even bedded the stock and free floated the barrel band, per original HEER Waffen Armory instructions K98K sniper preparation. It made a huge difference in consistent groupings..even using surplus 80s era Serbian ball ammo. It is one of my fave projects and keepsakes for my future lineage. It gets lots of "likes" at the range too. Not to many want to shoot it more than once or twice though...it does indeed 'kick-like-a mule!" 2 or 3 rounds of 5 shot strings will leave your shoulder a bit purple for a few days! LOL! :-)
Man, I was expecting a little bit better group with reloads and the gun fresh from the shop. But she was still hitting at 1100m. That's a good feeling.
I've wondered about the specs given for accuracy on the sniper rifles. I've had a bucket of old Mausers over the years, and none of them shot as poorly as that standard. Outside of one unit that literally had no rifling left, even the most clapped out piece of crap would put 5 shots of surplus ball {when we could get that} in 4 MOA, and that's over irons. Handloads would shoot under 2, or much much better. Maybe I'm just lucky? Anyway, a great video.
I concur... Enfield No 4 T has best ergonomics...good ammo for the times. Only able to compare to Ajax x4 on a Swede 41B. A Mosin 91/30 PU also...really no frills but it worked.
MrSHARP27. I thoroughly agree. I've owned a couple Mauser rifles. One a Persian BRNO which I very stupidly let slip through my fingers (DAMN) and currently an unissued Yugo M48 which is about to get a scout scope set up with a 2-7x32 Burris with 9 1/2 to 12 1/4" eye relief for hunting and target shooting. Why the scout style setup? No holes drilled in the receiver. Oddly even the Yugo M48's are appreciating in value. All the best to you.
I have 2 Mausers, shot my first deer, elk, bear, coyote, wild dog and badger with one. The bolt action is the best ever , a little finger to roll it back, thumb forward, never a bind up.
The Wehrmacht and the SS, contrary to your statement, had at the very least professional relations with one another, and on the battlefront cooperation was usually excellent. Cheers!
I have a 1943 mosin sniper rifle. The bolt is weird. If i want to reload i have to kind of force pull the bolt all the way back back or else it would not open
Iv been learning everything I can about snipers and there weapons for about 10 years. This shit just blew my mind. And I appreciate that. Thank you for this.
I have an 1890 Spandau production Gew. 88/05 that was later sent to Turkey. The bore was inspected and not altered while in Turk service. It looks old, feels old, but appears to be in fantastic shape. Really can't wait to get it out on the range with some Hornady Match ammo.
Markius Fox be careful with those old Gew 98’s. They used .318 bores instead of .323 bores that the WW2 era rifles used, and most US ammo is .323 bore.
@@9HoleReviews Absolutely. That was the reason the Turks conducted the bore inspections on the 8mm rifles they received during and after WWI. Regardless, I'm never going to shoot surplus 8mm Mauser that was loaded for MGs. A Kar.98 or Gew.98 will likely handle it fine, but a Gew.88 will not.
@@MarkiusFox sorry totally didnt' mean to assume! You never know what people do, and you never know what people know/don't know these days. Hope yours shoots well! I've always wanted a Gew98 to go with my 1918 Luger.
For everybody who wonders for what the "K" stands for at K98K, it means "kurz" ( short ) . So it is the shorter barrel Version of the regular K98. Cheers from Germany and keep on with the good content. Subcription is done.
I have a K-98 with a very good bore. I found a replica scope, and was considering the conversion. I’m not sure how the German adjustments work. Thanks for putting me onto the book on Sepp Allerburger, I just got the book, and it looks interesting.
FYI this is one of those videos you want to watch the end of 😘
Great :)
I have, and never will cut up and Enfield.
Bhum Brahmavira
That's what Mausers are for.
the end makes my day!
HA! Very droll... :p
The telling us not to put modern crap on a classic milspec rifle should have been louder and harsher. Like a German drill sgt.
I saw an airsoft guy post a video where he made an original WW1 dragoon Mosin Nagant into a "tactical carbine" and stripped all the varnish off of it. He slapped a cheap red dot on it too.
"Nothing of value was lost" he said, couldn't understand why his comment section was furious with him, lol.
@@xmm-cf5eg what's the video called?
I also see someone converted original Kar98k into airsoft
@@garydabelza MEIN GOTT THE HORROR!
Andrew Stoll it's not drill Sgt. It's Schleifer
I shot my first deer with a K98 8mm in the early 1970's I had borrowed it from my best friends dad who brought it home from WW2 . It had the German eagle holding a wreath with a swastika in the middle of the wreath. I shot a buck at about 40 yards and when I saw the wound from the 8mm I was shocked at the damage it did. On my way home from the hunt I kept thinking about our American soldiers shot and wounded by such a powerful rifle , it changed my whole perspective on the realities of war.
Dear god can you imagine what that rifle you used is worth nowadays? Id pay good money to get a hold of one like you described, and i hate the fuckin nazis lol.
I love nazi engineering
Yeah nazi is evil
@Kyledindunuffin you’re racist but ok
I have a DOU 43 k98 with the exact same waffenamt marking on both the receiver and barrel. The eagle is highly detailed with visible eyes and feathers and the swastika is very clear. And what this video said about recoil is true. My rifle becomes very unpleasant after the second clip of ammo.
8mm is a great round. Great BC.
This is like the Top Gear of the firearms world. Top notch production quality and presentation.
agree with one point - FORMER TOP GEAR with super - trio C+M+H!
But without freddie flintoff thank god
Fuck top gear
Much better than "top" gear's bull crap
Tonight, I mounted a Ma Deuce on my pickup truck, James shot a Kalashnikov, and Richard jammed his Kalashnikov
This Man’s German Aussprache is simply beautiful.
Er macht sich einfach mühe, nicht so wie andere amis
I really enjoy when english speakers put effort into pronouncing foreign words correctly (thus avoiding the catastrophe of voilà -> walla)
No it's wunderschön meine Kameraden spaß
A British sounding Hong Kong American speak deutsch.
@wyomarine Befriedigend, 3 Glatt
Hey guys sorry for having to re-upload, for some reason we had issues with TH-cam populating some of it properly. -H
What's the name of the modern sniper rifle you were comparing the 98k too?
@@Mega554321 The Arctic Warfare rifle
GOL Magnum GS-04 review plss
thanks for an awesome video. Excellent work
Owning and shooting a K98K from 1936 with an ZF41 myself and I love it. Normally it's 200m and I can tell that it's quiet accurate - even with rather cheap ammo.
Always a pleasure to use it. I actually bought it as my late grandfather had one of these from the same year and the same production as mine. Of course the original was lost somewhere in Russia - not so my Grandpa: He made it back home from Siberia to tell the story...
Practice is the criterion of truth. Pavlichenko and Zaitsev, if they read the words of praise about the Mauser, would laugh
@@user-er5xc6vs6q so true - at least the first part.
I assume if you have seen what any rifle in the hands of a good shooter is capable of, none of the two snipers you mentioned would laugh.
Did you have the chance to shoot them both? What are your impressions?
@@HaraldHofer
I have experience using the Mosin rifle and the kar98 Mauser rifle, the Mosin sniper rifle in my hands shows better results even with a PU sight. As a result, I replaced the PU sight on it with a modern 5-20x56. It is a pity that Zaitsev did not have such an opportunity
@@user-er5xc6vs6q Thanks for sharing you experience. However: the K98 Snipers were selected by there accuracy. And I assume the same applied for the Mosin. In order to get a comparable result both should be sniper variants.
But frankly, I don't care too much about which rifle is "better".... :)
@@HaraldHofer Мосин все еще соажается против террористов в Сирии, поэтому для меня это важно))
My great grandfather served in the battle of Kursk. He was one of the very few in his unit who managed to survive the war. He just felt lucky to be alive at that point but he always mentioned how reliable and what a superb tool for killing this rifle was.
"SS volunteer from Guangzhou on the Eastern Front, 1943 colorized"
"Canton" if you want to go old school. Modern Pinyin really wasn't a thing until the 50s.
Plot twist: I'd be more likely defending (ugh or under order to surrender... yuck...) in Hong Kong with a No.4 Mk1. -Henry
9-Hole Reviews are you from 广东省 or HK?
@@9HoleReviews using CKT mauser copy
Here's Your Guangzhou Sniper !
th-cam.com/video/n38F-0a_WhE/w-d-xo.html
I have a Book about Sepp Allerberger, he was a WW2 German Sniper, and a very good one !
Most of his Duty time , he used the Mosin with Scope.
Russian Snipers used Exploding bullets, so German Snipers started to use Luftwaffe Tracer Bullets !
Greetings !
beautiful the Kar98k, the Germans had a real exceptional rifle
+ 1 like
Dav Gun I wouldn’t say it was exceptional at all. A standard 5 round infantry rifle just like most armies had at the start of the 20th century. Exceptional is sticking a 10 rd mag on your service rifle like the SMLE or No.4
@@wernesgruder1 its not about how many rounds you can load, it's about the performance. The kar98 can even compete with modern sniper rifles when it comes to precision and range.
You wouldn’t say that if you had 10 enemy infantry running towards you.
@@wernesgruder1 well you don't use a sniper for that,you are not in a game...
A great rifle for deer hunting!
Keep in mind that in the late war report the results were also heavily impacted by the ability of the shooter, not to mention the conditions on the day of shooting (a lot of impacting factors when you're shooting at 1.1 km. Also just a small note, the 80x140mm minimum accuracy acceptance standard rectangle has to be flipped, i.e. a 80mm horizontal x 140mm vertical rectangle @ 100 meters (110 yards), which is 2.8 MOA x 5 MOA, within which the 5 shot group must place. This was just the first stage of the acceptance procedure for the K98 however (there were 2 stages), in the second 5 out of 5 shots have to place within a 120mm circle at 100 m, that's 4.1 MOA. For comparison the British Enfield No.4 had to place 4 out of 5 shots with 4.5 MOA accuracy at 100 feet. These are the minimum standards every rifle had to pass in order to avoid being sent back to the factory however, hence they do NOT reflect the average accuracy of the series produced K98k or Enfield No.4, it is simply the MINIMUM requirement for the rifle to even be accepted for service, and this standard also has to reflect how many of these weapons are to be produced (over 15 million in the case of the K98), i.e. the larger the production required = the larger the multiplier needs to be applied to the expected mechanical accuracy, or you're rejecting too many rifles.
im german. And im impressed by ur good german speaking skills. Great video! Love it!
The only part where he stumbled was on Heer.
@@FirstDagger I actually did not know "Heer" was pronounced like "Herr"! Thank you for pointing us in the right direction!
@@9HoleReviews ; Thank you for improving, I too often see people that do not care. Keep up the good work!
@wyomarine and the HEER is still a thing in the modern German Military.
Ja bol
One thing that really struck me about Sepp Allerburgers book was the extreme close rangers of most of his kills( under 200m) and the immediate heat a kill would draw from the enemy. This meant he had to have an exit route pre planned and use it straight after the shot. He claimed this method was the only reason he survived when other German snipers did not. Seems being a good shot ran second to superior field craft.
Makes sense. Being such a high value asset in your platoon would mean the enemy team would put greater priority in taking you out of the fight. So getting out of the thick and away from the enemy's jurisdiction would be key in success as a sniper.
It is quite interesting of the number of kills he eventually got considering he was trained originally as a machine gunner but an injury and spending some spare time while recuperating shooting a Mosin-Nagant allowed him to learn the skills on the job.
This is a fantastic format you’ve made here. Forgotten weapons education with 9hole shooting practicality. Keep it coming.
Hey I wasn’t the only one who thought this then lol
*YOU KILLED MOMISGAY WITH KAR89K(1100 M)
#ConfirnedKill
@@9HoleReviews how could you get the spelling wrong. Sending you to the gulag
@@touchmesama2590 Germans spell the 98 "achtundneunzig" translate it in english it is the eightandninety
@@GreenSnake1997 talking about his reply 'confirmed kill'
@@touchmesama2590 oh xD
What a masterpiece of a rifle
I really enjoy 9 Hole Reviews. Professional, concise delivery without any of the tacky bravado that regularly comes with gun channels. Always a good watch 👌
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I absolutely love your Videos, especially when you are testing German weapons!
Informative, straight to the point, honest and humourus at the same time. Keep up the good work!
Greetings from southern Germany :)
*Heavy German Breathing*
Great video guys! I am flattered that you used my picture of my different K-98k sniper variants in your video. Way cool!
Thank you again Brian! You have an incredible collection
so happy to hear you say "precision rifle" as opposed to "sniper" rifle.
You are only sniping if you are shooting at human beings.
The long-range precision rifle.
Keep up the good work
Do more of these brother, it is a very good 'down and dirty' style that goes over the points of interest quickly and accurately.
We'd really like to, but as you can imagine, the time for doing the research and production is quite lengthy. So we can't make them as frequently our practical accuracy videos.
@@9HoleReviews I get it brother, I'm just saying this is some quality content, for example I didn't know WW2 Wehrmach had exact moa standards since most k98s of that era clock in at 5-6 moa. I was under the impression that the reason why they engaged at closer distances was the limitation of the mass produced k98s that clock under those moas. I think I speak for most of us, that quality is better than quantaty but mettc I guess.
@@tarantulathree-one8013 Those Wehrmacht rifles did indeed clock in at 2.5-6.6MOA. We quoted a study that the Wehrmacht Infantry school did on their sniper rifles and it was pretty bleh. This particular rifle+ammo for some reason is way more accurate than theirs.
@@tarantulathree-one8013 2.5-6.6MOA was a 1km 12-shot group though, which still corresponds to a man-size grouping.Remember that there is a lot of environmental between that 1000m for the projectile too.
The research quality is just unreal. So informative.
This is one of the best gun channels on youtube and it doesn't even have that many subs???? Quality is through the roof on these.
This is a superb explanation of the sniper variant using a rifle of comparable origins as to 70yo relics. The prone and standing shooting position comparison of the butt-plate was also super interesting.
I actually ended up getting approached by a viewer who's mentor was a WW2 Wehrmacht sniper instructor who said that in the field they rarely shot prone. Really interesting hearing it from a vet from the era.
Hello guys. A great video. I was among other qualifications a sniper. One thing that one can do with the K-98 K or other sniper rifles with the higher scope due to keeping the iron site capability. I would still prefure this option even today if I was still in Service. One can hold the K-98 K but stock from underneaths with the non firing hand, with the elbow forward ( Just like the firing technique used for the MG-42 and MG-34) just like the shooter is holding the new sniper rifle. Also, like him, I also had a small sand bag under the rear of the stock and made slight adjustments with my non firing hand. Yes, it takes longer to move the bolt to fire a second shot, but a sniper's code is "One Shot, On Kill!". Also with the Semi-automatic M-21 sniper system, with was an accurized M-14 with scope, on could fire follow up shots right away. Try that technique next time with the K-98 K. I also read Sepp Allerburger's book. Very capabile sniper and highly even better than the best Soviet Snipers.
Well done, thanks for sharing! I have a postwar Czech Kar98 variant and while it's fun to shoot, as you say, those 196-grain full power loads deliver a wallop via that steel buttplate. Particularly liked your use of a "fair equivalent to actual issue" method.
This was a fun gun to use in Medal of Honor Allied Assault.
Even in the video game, when you shot it you got a good sense of the power of this rifle.
That game got me seriously interested in WW2 when I was about 12.
the 1 dislike was a captured square head sniper lol
Because of this video, I think you should do Practical Accuracy of Gewehr 43. Love your video man very helpfull with my analysis :D
I second this!
I like this style of video much better than just your shooting at various yardages with no commentary on the history of the rifle
I love the way you use german words for original description of stuff and things. That made it authentic and interessting to watch. Greetings from the Country where Sepp Allerberger is born and raise. Austria
Your production value just keeps getting better Henry. I got a good laugh at the beginning and end. Thank you as always. I’ll be placing another SBI order in the near future to help support the cause.
Quickly becoming one of my favorite channels, great video.
I was a Special Forces / Special Operations sniper trained in both Urban and Field sniping. Ultimately it's the sniper and the sniper's skill that determines the effectiveness of any weapon. Semi-Automatic Sniper rifles certainely have some good advantages, as do bolt action sniper rifles. It's truely noteworthy that the German K98K sniper rifles were so effective. The concept of having both iron site and scope capability concurrently on a sniper rifle is something that should still be practiced today. However many sniper rifles of today do not have this option, which I believe is a mistake as it doesn't apply the lessons of the greatest war in history sniper experiences. Great video.
The Mauser weapon system and history just blows my mind man.
Enemy at the gates directors cut is a master piece👍
The ZF-41 was originally intended to be more of a squad DMR then an actual sniper. What was supposed to happen is the best marksman im the squad would reciver a K98 special fitted woth a rail built into the sight block, later the germans would make a simpeler "field upgrade" package with the same rail and scope mounts, but instead of coming out of the sight block it was a replacement for the sight ramp with the adition of the opposite rail for the scope. What ended up happening was germany NEEDED sniper rifles and the ZF-41 was forced to be handed to snipers and the guy that should have been a DMR got... His standard K98
You can read about the story of Sepp Allerberger in the book "Im Auge des Jägers. Der Wehrmachts-Scharfschütze Josef Allerberger". I dont know if there is an english version but I can highly recommend the book. You learn so much about Snipers in WW2, the situation of german soldiers on the eastern front and about Allerbergers personal life. Amazing book as I think. Greetings from Austria (btw Allerberger was also from Austria)
Despite its inadequate magnification, the ZF41 was the scope manufactured in the largest numbers in WW2 Germany - something like 60,000 were made. Troops using it were more like designated marksmen than snipers.
9:15 im so happy he put this m1 garand sound in...
My heart start beating so hard when you pulled out that drill in the intro...
Good research. I respect every man who reads thoroughly rather than sit on the camera and expresses their opinion.
I will echo all the comments about how professional and informative these presentations are, but this one in particular got my attention. I have long since lost track of all the books and articles I’ve read about military sniping methods and equipment, but the comments and demonstrations of how the angled buttplate and the position of the scope sight were ergonomic deficiencies were completely new to me. I had also never heard that the unpleasant recoil of the Kar98K severely affected practical marksmanship by German conscripts; that is of course not surprising and is true of countless other rifles, but it’s something else I do not recall ever seeing discussed. Thank you.
My favorite rifle of all time. I wish I had never sold mine in my time of despiration.
Love the videos. You should get your hands on the .338 Lapua or the .408 Cheytac and take them out as far as possible.
I cannot speak highly enough of your channel and content, keep up the good work man
The speaker's gun knowledge makes the piano prelude a perfect juxtaposition with great effect.
Just found and subscribed to your channel, and boy, what a find! This channel is on another level compared to others; it's like a professional production team is making all of the videos! I can't believe I've never heard of this channel; I'm so glad I found it!
Beautiful background music! Always loved piano music in gun videos!
Henry does his research well, and speaks with historical and scientific accuracy.
My dad owns one, well, it was my grandfathers trophy. He took it of a SS sniper after "dealing"with him. It still has the unit and other markings on it. The scope was damaged so it was never replaced but the rest of the rifle is in pristine condition with everything original. The only issue is that it is classified as a trophy in Croatia so i can't bring it to Canada legally. Shame.
How does the accuracy of this karabiner 98k stand in comparison to the accuracy of the longer barreled world war 1 era Gewehr 98?
Only one way to find out.
Should probably not be measurable. At that time the tolerances were so high that the difference between k98ks probably are higher than any possible difference by this few extra inches. Barrel length usually also doesn't have that much impact anyway.
What I could imagine though is that the manufacturing improved and the tolerances shrunk.
DerFurz not true, the mosin 91/30 and m44 carbine version for example, the m91/30 has about 200fps more than the m44 in muzzle velocity due to its longer barrel
@@The99lubie I didn't say that barrel length doesn't do anything but it usually doesn't add accuracy
@bhauger1 they were look at the requirements for sniper rifles in WW2. Even the cheapest rifles today exceed that. Of course ammunition quality is also contributing, but in general guns have gotten way more accurate. In a rifle even the smallest of tolerances makes a difference
God, I love these. They're so fun and really well paced. Keep up the good work!
A small bag filled with sand to place at the bottom of the K98K butt will aliviate the butt coming down and the back of the scope striking the eye or face. Also moving the non firing hand to holding the bottom of the rifle along with the sand bag can help also. Henry is actually using the above technique with the modern sniper rifle, and could have used that with the K98K. Iron sites are also a good idea even today of the scope gets damaged. I would want my sniper rifle to have both. I was a sniper in Special Forces and learned how vital it is to have a very good stable firing plateform.
Having shot the K98k with a Ziel 6 hundrets of times in prone position (with a "Turmschwenkmontage"), the scope never kissed my face - I dont know how you managed to do so
0:21 and me (pianist) "oh wow, Chopin Sonata in B flat minor for this, wow :D "
Thanks for telling me what the piece is called.
@@thunderring8056 couldn't resist :-)
What's that lovely piece on the background? It sounds beautiful.
The_Onionman Piano Sonata No. 2 Op. 35 movement 1 by Frederick Chopin
For those of you who are interested to what music is playing in the background, it is Piano Sonata No. 2 Op. 35 movement 1 “grave doppio movimento” by Frederick Chopin. I have been unable to find this version that was used in the video which is a shame because I think this is the best version
Well dang, I've been looking for this since the video came out.
Thanks!
A design, made in my country, over 120 years ago, shooting about 1 MOA, being ablo to hit a target at around a kilometer. Me sitting here, with my sword and crossbow, thinking something went wrong along the way.
Excellent presentation really first call all the way. Love the German warning and historical documentary. Great job gents!!!!
Excellent review. Have you considered the G43 semi-auto?
the only problem of the g43 it spread like a 12ga at least all i know
ljmtac have you actually shot one or are you one of those call of duty kids saying what they got from the game
The 8mm Mauser is probably the most underrated cartridge in the world. Lighter projectile weight with new and improved powder makes the 8mm a serious contender.
Thank you for not destroying a war time rifle! ❤️
So I’m not the only person who thinks the 8x57mm is unpleasant to shoot. 196gr at 2,600fps packs a real wallop.
And now imagine an MG42 spitting out 1500 of these per minute.
the MG is a lot more pleasant to shoot. It's got the recoil reduction buffer. Same for the FG42. However the Mauser 98k? YOU are the recoil buffer.
Bernhard Langers Any self-loading rifle or machine gun has substantially less felt recoil than a bolt-action rifle of the same caliber. The cycling of the weapon helps cushion a lot of the recoil energy, whereas with a bolt-action rifle it is a very sharp recoil impulse straight into your shoulder.
Well, I stand corrected then.
Yeah, 8mm Mauser out of a bolt action is pretty unpleasant, especially prone or off a bench. So is 7.62x54R.
@@ritterbruder212 Mass helps, too.
MG-42 - 25+ lbs.
KAR-98K - 8-9 lbs.
I love the background music
Phenomenal commitment to going the distance gentleman! I appreciate your attention to detail and willingness to go the extra mile. Most people go only far enough to get the views but you show true dedication to gathering accurate results and valid data.
Keep up the great work!
Thank you! I think this was long overdue. This took 4 months of research on my off time.
@@9HoleReviews well your conctent/end result is awesome!
I bought a Czech 8mm Mauser (grade NRA excellent back in 2006 (when they were still cheap) from SAMCO Imports, and fitted it with retro replica claw mount and Ziess copy 4x scope with post & crosshair reticle. Post surrender era tooled with "Arctic trigger guard" so no 'war eagles' were ever applied but still retains numerous "waffenampt" QC stampings on the sub-parts, etc. It looked brand new unissued and was heavy in cosmoline when I unboxed it. I burned up 2 drill bits drilling that excellent German Krupp steel receiver for the mounting screws. Its an excellent weapon and is VERY accurate. I even bedded the stock and free floated the barrel band, per original HEER Waffen Armory instructions K98K sniper preparation. It made a huge difference in consistent groupings..even using surplus 80s era Serbian ball ammo. It is one of my fave projects and keepsakes for my future lineage. It gets lots of "likes" at the range too. Not to many want to shoot it more than once or twice though...it does indeed 'kick-like-a mule!" 2 or 3 rounds of 5 shot strings will leave your shoulder a bit purple for a few days! LOL! :-)
Got a link to those bedding instructions?
10:57-11:21 css AWP, reminds me of the old days
I have a Yugo - captured Mauser K98k and it is superb in quality. It's miles above the Russian Captured 98k.
finally got to see a 98k at my local range , beautiful and deadly
Man, I was expecting a little bit better group with reloads and the gun fresh from the shop. But she was still hitting at 1100m. That's a good feeling.
Please do dragunov since it also issued by so many countries as well.
If it's better than modern US sniper ammunition it would be pretty funny to see a modern version of the 98k in the hands of the US Military
LOVE the music integration with the shooting
Once a sniper always a sniper.
I've wondered about the specs given for accuracy on the sniper rifles. I've had a bucket of old Mausers over the years, and none of them shot as poorly as that standard. Outside of one unit that literally had no rifling left, even the most clapped out piece of crap would put 5 shots of surplus ball {when we could get that} in 4 MOA, and that's over irons. Handloads would shoot under 2, or much much better. Maybe I'm just lucky? Anyway, a great video.
I concur... Enfield No 4 T has best ergonomics...good ammo for the times. Only able to compare to Ajax x4 on a Swede 41B. A Mosin 91/30 PU also...really no frills but it worked.
The No.4 T is my personal preference for that time.
Such a beautiful 98K rifle, as a child I used to play with it with my sister. My father got it from VC.
Even as a german history student I learned again a lot. Thank you very much
Most beautiful bolt action in my opinion.
Like if u agree
MrSHARP27. I thoroughly agree. I've owned a couple Mauser rifles. One a Persian BRNO which I very stupidly let slip through my fingers (DAMN) and currently an unissued Yugo M48 which is about to get a scout scope set up with a 2-7x32 Burris with 9 1/2 to 12 1/4" eye relief for hunting and target shooting. Why the scout style setup? No holes drilled in the receiver. Oddly even the Yugo M48's are appreciating in value. All the best to you.
Agree At 100%🙂 the k98-k and all its variante are my favorite Bolt action rifle of all time💪
I have 2 Mausers, shot my first deer, elk, bear, coyote, wild dog and badger with one. The bolt action is the best ever , a little finger to roll it back, thumb forward, never a bind up.
The Wehrmacht and the SS, contrary to your statement, had at the very least professional relations with one another, and on the battlefront cooperation was usually excellent. Cheers!
More videos like this one please, thank you guys for all the hard work!
Very interesting upload. Early 20th century precision bolt action rifles are growing on me. I want one.
Please springfild m1903 sniper rifle
Whoever disliked this is probably a mosin nagant (aka garbage rod) fan
fishermn123 what so bad about the Mosin?
The quality is not as great as it is praised to be
Im a fan of the m39 finnish mosin
@@a.-.f_k If Harbor Freight sold rifles, they'd sell Mosin Nagants and you'd be able to use the 20% off coupon on it too,
I have a 1943 mosin sniper rifle. The bolt is weird. If i want to reload i have to kind of force pull the bolt all the way back back or else it would not open
What a magnificent rifle, after all these years people still use it to this day.
Your videos are fantastic! Very detailed and diverse content (history, builds, shooting, etc.) and impressive production quality.
You guys trying to out-shitpost Karl over at InRange? Great video, extremely informative.
What is being put on the scope at 12:10?
It's a sun shade to conceal any glint from the scope. It helps the sniper stay hidden and avoids the reflection of the sun on the lens of the scope.
Iv been learning everything I can about snipers and there weapons for about 10 years. This shit just blew my mind. And I appreciate that. Thank you for this.
I have an 1890 Spandau production Gew. 88/05 that was later sent to Turkey. The bore was inspected and not altered while in Turk service.
It looks old, feels old, but appears to be in fantastic shape. Really can't wait to get it out on the range with some Hornady Match ammo.
Markius Fox be careful with those old Gew 98’s. They used .318 bores instead of .323 bores that the WW2 era rifles used, and most US ammo is .323 bore.
@@9HoleReviews Absolutely. That was the reason the Turks conducted the bore inspections on the 8mm rifles they received during and after WWI. Regardless, I'm never going to shoot surplus 8mm Mauser that was loaded for MGs. A Kar.98 or Gew.98 will likely handle it fine, but a Gew.88 will not.
@@MarkiusFox sorry totally didnt' mean to assume! You never know what people do, and you never know what people know/don't know these days. Hope yours shoots well! I've always wanted a Gew98 to go with my 1918 Luger.
OOOOOH is there an L96 video coming?
I think that’s a R700 in an AICS
The roof Chinaman comes through again.
Weirmacht using suppressed sniper rifles and subsonic ammunition in the 40s. Such brilliance.
For everybody who wonders for what the "K" stands for at K98K, it means "kurz" ( short ) . So it is the shorter barrel Version of the regular K98. Cheers from Germany and keep on with the good content. Subcription is done.
How much does one cost
Can you guys do a SVD Dragunov accuracy test please
Henry, let me know when your ready to sell me a K98K
Thank you for making this video. I've been waiting for something like this on TH-cam for a while.
I have a K-98 with a very good bore. I found a replica scope, and was considering the conversion. I’m not sure how the German adjustments work.
Thanks for putting me onto the book on Sepp Allerburger, I just got the book, and it looks interesting.
Please don't. Maintain and cherish the piece of history.