Which BUDGET Metal Detector is KING of the BEACH? Simplex VS Vanquish Beach WET SAND Testing
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- THANK YOU Paystreak Superfreak (Jeremy) hand makes leather sheaths with love if you want more information or want to pick one up contact Capitol Prospecting or go to @PaystreakSuperfreak channel!:) Simplex VS Vanquish at the BEACH. I love my Simplex but I like the Vanquish a lot too!
Nokta Makro Simplex+ VS Minelab Vanquish 440 Metal Detectors.
Testing GOLD and Testing Silver.
This does not mean one machine is better than the other... just showing what kind of results you may expect when using these machines on the beach.
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I always bring my digger any where I go. You never know when a change of plans comes up. That's a sweet digger sheath. Great tests and keep up the great work!
Thanks Greg, very true!! Happy holidays man 👍
One of the best beach comparison videos I've seen. Well done.
The one thing you'll notice though is that both Rings were gold and the chain was silver and the Simplex did at least come up with a signal of some sort on the silver chain when the Vanquish got blanked. The Vanquish because of its multi-frequency picks up gold a little better than they Simplex does but the Simplex is a better Silver Machine because of its 12 khz frequency. When I go to the beach with my simplex I just ground balance automatically in Beach mode and then switch over to Park 1 and I do much better that way. Both great machines for the money though No Doubt.
Good tips Steve! I should have brought a silver ring along too I bet it would have done good running the lower freq. Sometimes I like running field mode on the beach, maybe next time I'll give park a go. Most targets for me are pretty shallow so simplex is still awesome plus it's waterproof so no need to worry about it plopping on the water
Awesome insight thank you!
I was torn between the quest x10 pro or the simplex I went with the Quest x10pro and I love this machine......
OH YAH YAH YAH!! Vanquish vs Nox same test BRING IT ON!!. The Vanquish put a spank down on SIMPY on that test BIG TIME!! You have a very MERRY CHRISTMAS. PS when you blabber we listen!!
MERRY CHRISTMAS!! There's a few videos on the Legend up, I'm sure you've seen them! Looking forward to seeing you SPANK some targets out with it! Thanks dude:)
I started watching you and paystreak at the same time about a year ago. Love both your channels
You and Jeremy are my two favorites. No nonsense.
Jeremy is the man 🙏
I love these videos. It's about time I watch some one down to earth... no pun intended!
I'm glad you like them Kathy, appreciate that:)
The sheath is awesome! Great video, one of the questions I seem to always get asked is what is a good entry level detector? I see you found the ever elusive pull tab!! 😂😂
Very informative video thanks a lot nice holster for the digger Jeremy does a good job take care and God bless 🙌 Merry Christmas
He does an amazing job oldtimer! Glad to have it hope to have it for a long time... Merry Christmas to you!!!
Hi from the UK 😀 Good honest review
Nice video brother 👍💯 love my Vanquish!
Merry Christmas 🎄
Merry Christmas Darby!!
Bought my wife's first detector 9 years ago, I upgraded her this spring with the Vanquish 540, she loves it, a real coin and jeweler hound.
Great video:-) 👍
I think the vanquish is really friendly to use, not much confusion pretty much if it beeps you dig!! Thanks Jimmy James, merry christmas to ya! 🎅
Quarter hoarder had a video on today with the legend
Great review. Iffy signals TH-cam channel has a good review on the legend as well.
Checked out a few videos on it so far, looks interesting!
Great test Austin, both great machines but the multi is a game changer. Merry Christmas brother!
Merry Christmas to you and the family! 🙏 Multi definitely feels awesome on the beach.. just that pure silence until finally something is under the coil 🔥
if they would put vanquish guts into simplex case, it would be ultimate machine
I know I like my V540... with the larger coil on... it runs almost like a Nox 800.. great value. I think the Nokta Legend is going to be a great machine too... way different than their past machines... like the Impack , Anfibio & Simplex.... Legend sounds like the Minelab's like your Vanquish. Easy on the ears. Good Video
Yep... I have to agree with you - the Simplex does not like wet, salty sand! Also, I have learned to just ground balance higher up (sort of where the dry meets the wet) and often detect up and down - from dry to wet - in the same GB - and often in PM2 - sensitivity one bar down!
However, I won't class a Vanquish as "budget"... not by a long shot! Worst still, the Vanquish is not waterproof!!! Me, I'm clutsie... I would drop that into the water at first opportunity - just because it's not waterproof!! But yes, MF will beat single frequency any day at the beach!
You and Destiny and the rest of the family have a great Christmas - thanks for all the fun you share - detecting and gardening! Happy days there in the land of freedom!!
I should have tried some park and field action, I like running different modes out on the beach too vossie! I'm sure you have seen the few videos out on the legend... excited to give it a try.. I think the vanquish comes in 3 different options, the 340, 440 and 540 I would say the 340, 440 pretty friendly in price but that 540 can definitely get a bit expensive! I scored my 440 for around $189 bucks second hand haven't had any issues so far. I think if I had brought a silver ring to the beach the Simplex would have fared a lot better also, the low frequency on the Simplex just isn't the biggest fan of gold.... BUT... It WILL hit it if it's not too deep!! Most stuff out here isn't very deep for me so depth isn't the biggest deal... Merry Christmas to you and your family also Vossie, appreciate you coming along for the journey!
I live in Crystal River Florida and detect everywhere I can. I'm going detecting on Christmas Day. What is the weirdest thing anyone has found in my area. I found two different pairs of REAL hand cuffs less than a mile apart.
Now that's how you know you love the hobby!! maybe they were the prison escapees... always cool finding stuff that gets your brain going!
Nice shout out to one of the most dedicated detectorists on you tube. Nice sheath too! I'm not surprised that the Simplex did not compete with the Vanquish on your test, but since I have no beaches where I am, it's of no concern. The Simplex has found me some crazy old targets in some crazy trashy spots,,,videos to follow when I find the time. Good job with this video, merry Christmas to ya and I'll be sharing this one with Jeremy.
It's very nice and he's the man! Merry Christmas to ya! and of course I don't have to tell you this but... keep on DIGGIN'!!
I saw the simplex easily hitting all three targets even with the ground balance wrong and the sensitivity 20 percent down.I dont see the reason to test 12kh against 20 or 40kh but the simplex wasnt tuned right and still hit all three easily on the first pass and wasnt that noisy for the beach and there was obvious biases but i wasnt going to bother commenting because all experienced detectorist know all this.
I'll have to watch one of your videos so I can learn from your experience?
Very Cool Now When I hit the beach with the 540 I will have more confidence with it. Not that I had Doubts Because I know it works Good ,, But I had Doubts on depth.. Thanks For Sharing ..
Little vanquish always surprises me on the depth... I hear stories of people with 540s say they come in behind nox and clean up... now don't know if that's true 🤣 but it would be cool to see and experiment!
thanks dan.. happy holidays!
Merry Christmas to you and yours
Merry Christmas Gregory!!!
I wonder if my sound settings on my computer were different, but I heard the simplex on the gold just fine, although a higher pitch than the vanquish. Enough that it would trigger digging at least. I also heard definite pings on the silver chain, again, more so than chatter. Vanquish defo hit a bit more defined on the gold, (sharper and a bit louder), so was certainly better in that regard...but at the end of the day both of them would have found both gold, and only the simplex hit at all on the silver(you were talking over it, but you could certainly hear the signal above the chatter IMO). On another note, I love that you refuse to "salt" your finds/videos, I think that goes on a LOT on youtube. The numbers of gold some people find just seems untenable in some cases!
Dont call me out for my planted pulltabs and clad! 😂😂
HOW you get SO LUCKY on the pull tabs 😂
@@TreasureOutdoors skills homie
Hi dude.
Another great advantage of the Vanquish is that it is very little affected by electromagnetic interference. Here is a beach that most detectorists avoid due to the large amount of interference. And we have found that the Vanquish works perfectly in those conditions. When we go there the Equinox stay in the trunk of the car. On the other hand, the Simplex is a great machine for fields and parks due to its resistance and performance, but on wet beaches and sea water it is not an option, we all know very well why. The only thing that outrages me is that certain distributors promote it as a detector with performance for the beach but whose beach mode is precisely the least indicated to detect in that field. Greetings from Spain friend, and happy holidays.
Just got the new Garrett find bag, can’t wait to use it.
Sweet man! I like it so far, big improvement over the walmart fanny pack 😂
A great video
The Vanquish won this contest hands-down. The Simplex is a very capable machine, but not the best for salt water. Merry Christmas to you!🎄💖
Agreed Cynthia 😁
Merry Christmas Cynthia 🎅
💥Great video and I’d really like some help. Not sure if you know the machine but I just took my Garret. Ace 400 out last night for the first time. I brought it to the beach. I had it in Relics mode, the sensitivity was down 2 notches from full.
It was going well up on the dry sand locating quarters that read in the mid 80’s. But as I walked down the slope to the water it was manageable when the sand up high was fairly wet but as I got down near the incoming waves where the sand was really wet and glistening from the incoming waves it continually read 36-37 and the tone went off every 2-3 seconds everywhere I waved it. I had it about 1 inch (2.5 cm) over the sand. Back up on the dry sand it remained totally quite until I passed over something which was every 30-45 seconds or so. Was I not using the right setting or will this unit not work accurately in the wet sand at the waters edge.??
Test the Nox and Apex the same way. Would love to see that. Detected yesterday 34 degrees here in NY at that small park I found the 18K ring. Was going to go again today but woke up to a blanket of snow…have to put the machines to sleep now😞😖
You got you some nice gold before snow hit the ground, that's a win in my book!!! Next time maybe I'll do the vanquish nox and apex, thanks for the input👍 Just gives you something to look forward to huh, you'll be out there in the warm air digging holes before too long!
Which one gives best depth ?
Can you do this same test with the Minelab X-Terra Pro and the legend . I would really like to see if one is better in the wet Beach sand please. Tank you.
Win goes to the Vanquish on this one. Good test brother 👍💯
Thanks Juice:) Simplex still does good on the beach most stuff seems to be right near the surface anyways
@@TreasureOutdoors oh yeah but that vanquish gave the Plex a good spanking on that test 🤣 Oh yeah by the way we're not supposed to plant gold Rings??🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh that's right we dig poo 💩 all the freaking time 🤣
@@CanYouDigItMetalDetecting 99.9% 💩
@@TreasureOutdoors Foo Man Poo😂
considering beach mode is about the shalloiwest on the plex and jewelry mode is among the deeper on most detectors this outcome was by far no big surprise. cant say this was an absolutely fsir test.
Vanquish 540 is above entry level its a mid range detector especially with multi iq frequency, thats a massive advantage on the simplex which is only single frequency and nowhere near as good either on wet sand, vanquish far superior machine and €200 more expensive
Which one gives best depth?
Which one finds the greatest depth?
What size coil did you have on your vanquish 440 during the beach test.
stock v10 10" x 7"
Have a question would you recommend the legend over the equinox 800? I know the 800 is a multi frequency detector but heard good things about the legend
I really honestly think it comes down to personal preference, they are both good machines & have a few of their own unique strengths & weaknesses. I'd do as much research on them as you can and go with the one you are leaning towards. 👍
I now to dont know do i get simplex or adder 1
The quarter
Wish you would of brought the nox and the apex along for more options . Anyways good test bro
You are right Plugs I'll get out there and give it another go here in the near future... I wanna battle out the nox vs the vanquish too... little vanquish always surprises me on depth it can get with that coil size... thanks Plugs, merry christmas eve to you man 🙏
@@TreasureOutdoors see I live in a state called oregon . And it rains about half the year ….. that’s right 6 month long . And I just need a machine that is waterproof. I’m not really about just having an expensive machine . I believe 80% of people who detect don’t even really dig iffy signals. So really any machine would work for the mass population. So being said . vanquished it out of the park right there bro . Merry Christmas to you and your girlfriend and family 🤜💥🤛
Hello Austin
Try that simplex in all metal mode they do way better on the beach. I think you'll agree
What part of Florida you live in bud I live up In north Florida......
To be fair there's there's a lot of of ground that's different in different places Also there's different setups on the machines There's just a whole bunch of different variables that you need to try 1st
You are right with that one! 👍
I knew the vanquish would beat the simplex at the beach!!!
I just bought the 540 it’s jumping all over the place I’ve turned the sensitivity down and checked everything
hmmm.. ever get it figured out? Occasionally certain areas will produce a lot of whats called "EMI" which is pretty much electronic interference that could mess with your detector
Try it in a large field away from any electrical !!
The Mighty Anfibio is all but useless on the beach. I dont think the older single frequency machines had much tolerance for the salt, the Nox put a lot of PI machines to sleep, that was the turning point, SMF is real for the highly mineralized beach. I'm about to buy another detector for beach hunting, but I think it will have to be SMF! Not sure on what to get, my budget is tighter then a frogs butt under water! Ha Ha 😂😊
Vanquish is probably high contender for affordable multi frequency machine. Downfall is it takes double AAs and its not waterproof. I found my 440 second hand for $180 and it's never failed me! 👍
Good video comparison bro, the simplex's weak area is definitely salt water. Its doable, but there are definitely better machines for the beach. Usually impressed by the vanquish at the beach, with a bigger coil, that thing would probably spank some deep goodies
I agree. I have the v12 coil for my vanquish 540 and it goes deeeeep. I love my Vanquish!
@@MD-NWWI ive never used one. I love my simplex but do wish it had better performance on the beach, it rocks in the parks.
Most stuff I find at the beach is close to the surface so don't feel like you are really missing out, the Simplex still spanked me out some great stuff out there!! Rarely are targets that deep 👍
Set it to 0.00 and problem solved
Read the instructions.
On the beach runs smooth and deep in wet sand and out in the water.
Is this the vanquish 440?
Yes that's the machine that Austin has, there's a 10 Inch coil on it, I wonder if the 12 inch from the 540 would have hit that silver chain??
What's the matter Austin affraid to use the simplex to the best of it's ability against that supposedly superior vanquish.
What do you mean? Tried to give the old plex the best chance at the beach, it would do a lot better on land and probably on silver rings but when I'm at the beach I want the goooooooolld! What could I have done better for the next test?
@@TreasureOutdoors if you read the manual that came with your simplex the beach mode isn't it's deepest..don't hand me the "I was at the beach"cause you run tot lots and no detector has tot lot mode right?
@@TreasureOutdoors my friend you can run other mode at the beach...some tot lots have sand but that don't require you to run beach mode does it?
Why don't you do a beach test and see if your theory is right? I'd love to see the results!! 😊
First
Vanquish KILLS Simplex on the beach period..
Vanquish doesn't play around on the beach! Great detector for the wet sand.. just don't get that control box wet! 💧
There are so many things wrong about that test that an experienced detectorist can see right away that theres no need for comment,just shake of the head.
Thanks for the comment!
Very Interesting & new to this here , please send me your Y.T. Link so we can see how to perform a Proper Test !!
Actually, the Simplex hit the silver chain, and the Vanquish did not. They both hit the left and center target with a diggable signal. So, your editorializing aside where you assume the Vanquish should be superior before even testing it, and then talking over the Simplex while it is providing a tone on the chain while saying it isn't really giving a tone, whining about the Simplex having occasional blurps on the wet sand while the Vanquish is quiet as if that makes the Simplex less valuable, all this theatrics shows too much bias in favor of a predetermined outcome where the Vanquish is prejudged to be better and therefore invalidates the import of this testing.
How about this, take the Simplex and the Vanquish out into the water and search for rings beyond the surf. Oh, wait, the Vanquish can't do that because it's not waterproof, and the Simplex is. Looks like the Simplex wins that one. I detect beaches with the Simplex, I also have the Vanquish, but the Simplex is plenty deep (most targets are recent drops within 10", so the Simplex is more than adequate). Though the Simplex reacts slightly to the wet salt (when the arc of the swing near your feet is closer to the ground than at the periphery, you get a raised hum in all metal or a few blips in other modes), when it hits a non-ferrous target it is like getting punched in the face, you'll know the difference by the loud, tight, tone -- it is unmistakable even on a deep target.
So, at the beach where more serious detectorists are in the water searching for lost jewelry, the Vanquish does not even rate for consideration. Otherwise, if you're just hunting the sand, wet or dry, get a used Ace 250 (which many people have), and you'll have more than enough detector for the job. Frankly, the Vanquish is a good machine, a bit deeper in highly mineralized soil, but the build quality is not compatible with the Simplex (too much flex in the Vanquish rod, it works, but it feels flimsy).
So, if you do any other side-by-side testing, have someone else bury the targets, ensure the testing person does not know what or where precisely the targets are, or how deep, and don't prejudge the outcome. If you are going to adjust one detector for optimal performance and not do the same for the other (because your bias doesn't want it to do as well) or you sweep off-center and haphazardly to skew the outcome of the unfavored detector (while talking loudly over its better performance), and these are not issues for you, then please don't do any further detector side-by-side demonstrations. You must remain impartial and dispassionate or don't test detectors.
This comment deserves a reply, you make very good points.. If you want to make test videos.. gotta stay unbiased and know what you're talking about.. These videos are being viewed by the world.. not just a few newbys