Stonking Beauty Of A Dial! Raymond Weil Maestro Automatic Dress Watch 2237 Review - Perth WAtch
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- Review of this classic quality dress piece from Raymond Weil, featuring Swiss made Sellita SW200 movement & one beautiful dial!
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I love the look of this watch's dial. It's beautiful.
I agree!
A nice style of watch . Reminds me of the watches when I was young. I'm glad you reviewed it. I will get one. Thanks.
Most welcome :)
Stunning dial. In a 36-38 it would’ve been perfect. Great review as always on a pretty under appreciated brand.
Yeah, agreed... would be great if it was just slightly smaller!
Cheers Ivan. Nice piece. Dial is great and I like how the hands reach all the way to the edge i.e. seconds hand right to edge and minute hand to the markers. Nice touch. As other below have said - might be a good pick up on the grey market. Thanks for lending in for review too.
Thanks for that Sam - yeah the full retail is a "guide" in a way, for all of these mid tier type watches :)
A lot of Swiss watch companies (I'm looking at you, TAG) were mass-producing gold-plated watches and the gold plating or PVD was wearing off and all of these watches wound up in drawers all around the world. I agree with the other viewer who would prefer the silver colored (stainless stele) version. That said, the white dial with Roman numerals is my style.
Cost cutting to the detriment of the buyer. One of the oldest problems in the universe haha!
Hallo Ivan, nice looking watch. Finishing of the rotorweight is a little disappointing. Like the dial and hands.
I think the movement is magnitised. SW200 normally performs a lot better than that.
Thanks Joop. Yeah either magnetized, or as Mitch suspects, probably suffered a knock which has put it out of timing.
hey Ivan, thanks for the review. As you said, it really does have a nice looking dial, but everything else is just uhhhhhh....mundane stuff that you can find in many "Chinese brands". SW200 is rather nice, but not really much to write a home about. A$2000 is of course way over priced MSRP because currently it is being sold around US$500 range with bit more than 50% discount. Buckle/Clasp is nice, but it is not really comfortable to wear nor conform to your wrist easily. I had a couple of that type of clasp, but they weren't comfortable, so I switched to regular leather band with regular buckle. (Suggestion to Raymond Weil. they should provide an extra regular leather band with regular buckle OR at least just provide a buckle only for the people who wants to swap out the original band)
Again, Dial is nice and probably having huge discount on gray market wouldn't help the brand name in a long run and I truly believe that Raymond Weil is one of those brands that seriously need some major reconstruction of their brand image and specially watch collections.
Ivan, it is bit refreshing to see a dress watch, rather than plethora of diver reviews everywhere, however, dress watch is not as interesting as divers, chronos. It is bit tough to review unless it has some special horology of brand or special history of that watch.
Ivan, I have a question for you. I can tell a lot about watch brand's market place by looking at how much discounts they are being offered by gray sellers. Most of Raymond Weil is at 50 to 60%. A year ago, B&M was at 70% and most of Eterna is going around between 50 to 75%...etc. In your opinion, is this a rather clear indication of how the brand is doing? Specially when the Gray market discount goes over 50, 60% and more? (of course, exception of Invicta, ha ha ha).
Let me know your thoughts. Thanks again for your review and have a great day, Ivan.
Thanks for the comments guys!
Yeah totally agree about the clasp Alex... I suppose they could provide a pre-punched end of the strap and then provide a simple buckle option that could be swapped in. For a dark strap the holes shouldn't stand out too much nor should they look out of place even if spotted.
With regards to grey retail pricing being an indication of brand performance... I think that might depend on the brand. For some, sure it may be a big clue as to how they're doing. For others, they would rather carry out buy-backs and limit the stock out there rather than let these out in the grey market... I believe Richemont group carried such an exercise in very costly fashion not so long ago? Invicta of course is special :)
Great detailed review
Thanks :)
For that accuracy this watch must be rebranded as raymond komandirskij.
Nice one - very apt!
welcome back teacher watch awesome good
Thanks dude :)
Nice !!! Wish I have one of these
Check out the purchase links I provided :)
The dial is gorgeous, but the rest is a bit dull, and RRP is overly expensive for what you're getting, especially when you can get a Seiko Presage which looks similar in styling to the RW Maestro for a quarter or a third of the price.
Excellent review Ivan👍
Thank you for that - very true, the RRP is kinda just a place holder in a way, many have mentioned these are finding their way into grey retail for Presage prices. Cheers!
OK Ivan I'm a little converted to RW. Love the face it's a lot like a very crappy but pretty looking valintine I have. I gave in to QVC the shopping channel 13yrs ago and bought one. Advise is don't lol
Hmm... sounds like you're converted *against* RW, is that what you mean?
@@PerthWAtch no not at all mate. I wasn't a fan of the brand until I saw the one you just reviewed
Ah I see... very good sir! :)
Are these ar coated both sides?
Not sure man, I suspect only inside
Very nice watch, but overpriced, but what watch isn’t overpriced anymore? At least proven quality is there in this one.
Thanks for that Ray :)
Nice review
Thanks :)
Not sure off the top of my head, as I have never handled a Frederique Constant!
Hiya again.A Caddison for a fraction of the cost if you need a mechanical " dress piece" That's alot of cash that just is branded to its sale value? Also Mickey mouse size? Ok I am a hands on practical guy but worth £50.00 on a very good day?Mass produced mech movements are worth little ? Cheers as per.Sorry!
Thanks Len... can I ask what's "Mickey Mouse size"?
@@PerthWAtch Hiya,sorry a bit large I thought? Cheers.
Ah yes I see what you mean
Sea-Gull 819.368... but, admittedly, RW a slight above seagull on the overall aesthetic
Thanks... is this in response to an earlier post?
This watch immediately drops onto my list of watches I don't think Ivan would ever buy for himself. And why would you - it simply isn't that special and would not I suspect make you feel special when wearing it. The dial is indeed beautiful but sadly it doesn't look as though it belongs with what looks to be a very pale gold plated case and a quick click on your helpful link to Jomashop shows that this dial/hands combination looks far more comfortable with a silver coloured case. The rose gold version looks rather more convincing and I note that it is lower priced for some strange reason. In fact prices are all over the show for differing finishes - Why? And there's no getting around the fact that as others have said, this watch is over priced and facets including the rotor, under finished. I'm still finding the "Swiss Made" is inherently worth more money thing puzzling...
Thanks for the thoughts David... like others I think you have hit on some of the weaknesses of this piece. I do think the silver case looks best with this dial personally. Unlike for micro-brands where retail is limited, more established brands like RW do face negotiation at outlets, and of course the grey market where prices fall to more palatable ranges. The value of Swiss Made is hotly debated of course... it's late at night for me and also beyond the scope of my reply here.
Does it have tempered blue hands or are those painted?
Dunno - let me know what you find out
@@PerthWAtchI was hoping you'd know since you handled the watch. Guess not.
You guessed right - I wasn’t allowed to handle the hands 😂
@@PerthWAtch One doesn’t need to handle the hands specifically to understand if they’re tempered (heat blued) blue or painted blue hands, but seeing the watch in front of you is more than enough to tell the difference. Unfortunately, this detail is lost on video.
I was planning to pick up this timepiece had it have had tempered blue seconds hand because at this price range, that’s rare to see. Anyhow, I’ll look into it further. Thanks for trying to help.
One wouldn’t need to handle it to tell a poorly done set of painted hands, but a good quality treatment (doesn’t have to be the proper furnace blueing) will defy any ability to tell the difference just by looking alone. So you’d have to ask them.
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I can’t be the only one who hates those straps they make a watch look cheap
Probably not the only one
just don't see $2000 au ???????????
Yeah just quoting the MSRP... of course you would pay considerably less on an actual purchase.
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Very elegant stylish looking dial, and one of my favourite movements...but I would have a long list of watches for the price that I would buy before this, I could get two vey nice Oris models for the price of this for example to add to the collection or 4 very nice Micro Brands...Sorry Raymond Weil but overpriced.
Thanks for the input... I'm just quoting the MSRP which we all know nobody should be paying. In reality this will almost certainly come in below those Oris models you refer to, if sourced from grey retailers.
@@PerthWAtch I jiust got two Oris models for EOFY sale for $795 & $895 online that are usually over 2K in Australia, both brand new & amazing pieces as you know as I know your a BIG FAN of ORIS as well.
Indeed I am a big fan of Oris! That sounds like a very good deal - which models where those? In any case, people have spotted this RW for $500 USD on grey retail... so there you go :)
@@PerthWAtch A Williams F1 & a BC3. At $500 the RW is a beautiful watch with that elegant dial Ivan, send me a link & I will buy one. And another Oris model, as I have been in hospital I was buying watches from my AD's & suppliers online to kill the time so to speak.
Oh wow, I hope you've gotten better from whatever was keeping you in hospital! Check out the links I provided in the video description for a start, I think they may still be in stock (?).
PS. Nice Oris models!
Pretty face ... a little plain .... not as good as a NH35 for timing LOL
Haha yes as it is, it's been knocked outta timing... but the rated +/-10spd is a pretty good target guarantee.
face is exquisite
Thanks - I agree :)
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