Too bad their heterodox w/ their Protesting Calvinism & show a blatant misguided shallow elementary, at times slanderous view if ancient holy Christendom...besides that, yup their super duper
It's a pity Jordan Peterson never included John MacArthur on his panel for the bible. John MacArthur is the world's foremost authority on the scriptures and expositional teaching.
The teachings of John MacArthur, Voddie Baucham and R.C. Sproul (MHSRIP) have been transformative in my walk as a believer in Christ. Thank you for this! It'd be great to see more interviews with men like them on the show.
To think that almost a year ago we almost lose Voddie, Oh Lord praise be to you that sustained his life and gave us more grace and guidance through your work in his life!
Dr. Baucham is the only pastor about whom I will say that when he speaks, I always listen. His combination of deep faith, strong intellect and fearless forthrightness make him powerfully inspiring. Thank you for this interview, Andrew. Looking forward to his new book!
Voddie is a man of God that I trust and he's able to bring about the knowledge that others don't necessarily want to hear. Thank you Father for Voddie.
"She is what I am" Mary Harrington has an amusing line about becoming a mother -- the baby is like part of your body (an arm or a leg) that somehow became its own separate thing, but you still take care of it like it's part of you. Men should take care of their wives (and children) the same way.
True. But remember, this is part of a larger biblical equation. The wife’s part is to submit to her husband. Many women have at least as much trouble submitting to their husbands as husbands do of taking on the role of sacrificial leadership.
Been listening to Voddie since 2015. Played a huge role in my Christian walk. Lord willing, I will be married soon to a godly man who is currently in my life, and I partially credit Voddie Buachams sermon series on marriage in shaping me. So glad to see Voddie here.
Great interview. Love both you brothers. Voddie, and leaders like him, don't get nearly enough air time in our society. We desperately need this type of communication and understanding in society right now.
I just heard him speak at the G3 conference last week, and I will never forget it. Him and many other wonderful teachers revealing the truths about the sovereignty of God. Over the course of 3 days I took 29 pages of notes 🤯
Two of my favorites. For those who listen to Klavan, but have never heard of Voddie, would highly commend him to you. I think his best book is "Family Shepherds" although "Fault Lines" is excellent as well.
Agreed. I like these sorts of interviews because of the possible crossover between separate audiences who might not otherwise have met each other. Both of these men can stimulate a lot of rational thinking. Something we are desperate for more of.
I've interpretted the husband's headship as meaning largely that someone has to be the tiebreaker, right or wrong. If wrong, he bears the responsibility.
I keep hoping men like Voddie Baucham would run for president. This is the second greatest preacher thats lived in my life time. The first is R.C. Sproul and hes now with the Lord but just so everyone is clear when nobody was standing up with reason in the 60s and 70s R.C. Sproul was out there like Paul The Apostle and now Voddie is doing what we were all supposed to do. Doings everything to the Glory of God.
Drew! God's church is alive and healthy in places where you'd least expect it. During Covid we became disillusioned by what was going on in our own church, and found a very healthy, Gospel preaching, growing congregation even here in the suburbs of Burlington, VT. We're supporting NETS...an organization that is training up new pastors to bring the Word to failing churches across this mission field of non-believers known as New England.
Andrew Klavan and Voddie Baucham - yes! The beauty of the interweb is how we get to observe fascinating conversations between people from different arenas of society. Two gentleman I love listening to and together discussing a wonderful topic. Brilliant!
I have been listening to Voddie’s sermons for over 10 years. Outside the Bible, no one has helped shape my worldview and helped my biblical understanding more. Thank you for this interview. God is using you and others with a platform like yours to impact this culture for the Kingdom of God. God Bless you!
My boyyy Voddie!! You should bring on William Lane Craig, John Lennox and Richard Swineburn on your show next! The conversations with those men will blow everyones minds. They're absolute geniuses.
@@anitasmith203 what? So what lol I never said he was? I said he should bring them on his show. I never said what any of these men's religious beliefs are.
One of your best interviews ever Andrew. Voddie Baucham is the man! ( Of God😁). Another great interview would be a friend of his, Douglas Wilson, from Canon Press. Wilson has a great wit and dry humor and writing skills akin to yours. You two are very different, yet similar in a good way. He would open up your audience as well. When I saw Klavan , Baucham , I knew it would be good! God bless.
He is right about the state of the American church, there are definitely problems but there are also some great strengths. During the pandemic the churches were the main institution that pushed back against the lockdowns.
I can relate to you Andrew. I've been married to the love of my life coming up on 45 years. Christ has been the center of our marriage and there is no way to describe how beautiful marriage can be. We have 6 grown daughters and 11 grandchildren. All are walking with the Lord and that is a true blessing. I didn't meet the Lord until I was 19 and the Lord brought my wife along 2 years later. We married 9 months later. God bless you.
(17:17) Being squeamish has been the greatest weakness in the wall of Conservative families; the Left found this weakness, breached it, and wreaked havoc through this.
The problem is people who only look at half of what God says, even (or especially) Christians. Right after where God says the guy is in charge, the guy is required to love his wife sacrificially all the way up to dying for her. Which end of that bargain do you want? Today in dying secular marriage we try to say it's 50/50 (my wife and I both started that way) but it NEVER is. When the woman takes the 51% and demands the man sacrifice for her what do you think will happen? If the man demands his rightful 51 uet does not sacrifice what is going to happen? If you strive for 50/50 all you have is strife.
The verse in Ephesians immediately before "Women submit to your husbands" is "husbands and wives submit to one another". The glory of Christian marriage is that both submit to each other... neither attempts to dominate the other. Claiming the Bible justifies domination either direction is blatantly ignoring the same-passage context of the verses they misuse.
You're still missing some important words. The husband is THE ONE head of the marriage. There must be one component that has the position of head. There will be instances where husband and wife do not agree and a decision has to be made. The husband has the authority to make that decision. That comes with the responsibility for whatever that decision leads to. It shouldn't necessarily happen often. But without ONE person being in authority over the other, chaos ensues. There are ways to do this that does not remove a shred of integrity or respect from the wife. It's an art that too few desire to study/learn. It's a shame, because it really shouldn't be a big deal.
@@laurenbatson5918 You make a good point, and it merges with my earlier point to highlight a concept: what does leadership without domination look like? That is truly an artform!
Leadership without domination depends on willing obedience. Why would one be obedient willingly? Because of the conviction that the leader has your best interest in mind, and knows better than you. It's quite a journey to get to that point.
Submitting to one another in the fear of God. It specifically says wives submit to your husband's. The first verse is not meaning like husbands, take orders from your wife, it's like mutually dedicate yourselves to each other so as to not get the wrath of God. The second verse is specifically saying that wives should submit to the husband, as in be the second to the first, follow his lead, and potentially do what he says if it comes to that. And it's not a conditional command, so you can't break it if he just makes you feel bad and construe that as not being in your best interest or not following God to get out of your duties
Where I feel forgotten and hopeless Lord Let your water of life comfort me. Even though I fell on hard times these pass three years. I’m holding on and keeping faith even though it’s hard. Faith is our armor against the enemy. I keep faith even as I constantly struggle to provide for my children and I constantly struggle to buy groceries. My husband died years ago. At times I feel so alone especially as a single mom. Since suffering a heart attack two years ago and my on going battle with lupus I’m overwhelmed and discouraged. Both of my sons are autistic but because of you Lord they are thriving. I’m now homeschooling them so my hours to work are limited. I’m afraid Lord. Afraid of homelessness. Thankfully I have you Lord! I know you will continue to provide you have this far. I LOVE YOU HEAVENLY FATHER.
Given the current family court laws - there are few places in America where it's possible to have a Christian marriage. Most parts of the country only allow pagan male servant pacts where a pagan woman selects a man to own, dominate and control.
Yes, it's honestly very debateable that if getting married in the USA is even godly because the marriage laws are so perverse as to put women above men, there's legitimate argument that Christian men should obstain from marriage untill the women are not put above them.
I wonder how Andrew builds his bridges, considering he fully accepts his son and son-in-law. He is one of the very few conservative Christians to publicly affirm same-sex marriage. I still wonder how Spencer can categorise his personal life and professional life, since most of his pals (Knowles, Walsh, Beck, MacArthur, Stuckey) wish for him to leave his husband.
Andrew freely says that same sex "marriage " is not really marriage. He loves his son, despite his sexual preferences. I'm sure he wishes it were different
@@diananeuman6222 I've seen several videos where says that a same sex-relationship, if loving and healthy, can be a good thing, that he has many gay friends and that he can strongly empathise with gay people who have been rejected by their parents. He is very critical of activists and will play into the culture, but it in the end he seems to be ok with it.
EVANGELICALS: "sex is a gift from God that is to be mutually enjoyed in the marriage!" ALSO EVANGELICALS: "Wives, your husband has a need you will never understand, and you need to give it to him even if you don't want to or he will go astray"
@@laurenbatson5918 True, but for many nowadays, it's not done with sincerity and honorable intentions. God is benevolent and all knowing, but people aren't.
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Voddie Bauchaum and John MacArthur are men of God. May Our Lord Jesus Christ bless them.
Victims of domestic abuse would argue only one of them is a man of God (judged by their fruits). And it isn't John.
Too bad their heterodox w/ their Protesting Calvinism & show a blatant misguided shallow elementary, at times slanderous view if ancient holy Christendom...besides that, yup their super duper
@@laurenbatson5918
Imagine actually believing baseless slander.
It's a pity Jordan Peterson never included John MacArthur on his panel for the bible. John MacArthur is the world's foremost authority on the scriptures and expositional teaching.
@@laurenbatson5918That's a slanderous statement.
The teachings of John MacArthur, Voddie Baucham and R.C. Sproul (MHSRIP) have been transformative in my walk as a believer in Christ. Thank you for this! It'd be great to see more interviews with men like them on the show.
Amen to that.
To think that almost a year ago we almost lose Voddie, Oh Lord praise be to you that sustained his life and gave us more grace and guidance through your work in his life!
Dr. Baucham is the only pastor about whom I will say that when he speaks, I always listen. His combination of deep faith, strong intellect and fearless forthrightness make him powerfully inspiring. Thank you for this interview, Andrew. Looking forward to his new book!
Voddie is a man of God that I trust and he's able to bring about the knowledge that others don't necessarily want to hear. Thank you Father for Voddie.
"She is what I am"
Mary Harrington has an amusing line about becoming a mother -- the baby is like part of your body (an arm or a leg) that somehow became its own separate thing, but you still take care of it like it's part of you. Men should take care of their wives (and children) the same way.
True.
But remember, this is part of a larger biblical equation.
The wife’s part is to submit to her husband.
Many women have at least as much trouble submitting to their husbands as husbands do of taking on the role of sacrificial leadership.
@@IamDoogy Forcing someone to sacrifice unreasonably when smarter options are available, is another problem.
Been listening to Voddie since 2015. Played a huge role in my Christian walk. Lord willing, I will be married soon to a godly man who is currently in my life, and I partially credit Voddie Buachams sermon series on marriage in shaping me. So glad to see Voddie here.
Great interview. Love both you brothers. Voddie, and leaders like him, don't get nearly enough air time in our society. We desperately need this type of communication and understanding in society right now.
He did get a funny moment on CNN
I just heard him speak at the G3 conference last week, and I will never forget it. Him and many other wonderful teachers revealing the truths about the sovereignty of God. Over the course of 3 days I took 29 pages of notes 🤯
This is the type of content we need 🔥👏
Two of my favorites. For those who listen to Klavan, but have never heard of Voddie, would highly commend him to you. I think his best book is "Family Shepherds" although "Fault Lines" is excellent as well.
Agreed.
I like these sorts of interviews because of the possible crossover between separate audiences who might not otherwise have met each other.
Both of these men can stimulate a lot of rational thinking.
Something we are desperate for more of.
Blessed to have this man in my city😊
So excited to see an interview with Voddie Baucham! Thank you both, for doing this!
My favorite Pastor Voddie
I've interpretted the husband's headship as meaning largely that someone has to be the tiebreaker, right or wrong. If wrong, he bears the responsibility.
I keep hoping men like Voddie Baucham would run for president. This is the second greatest preacher thats lived in my life time. The first is R.C. Sproul and hes now with the Lord but just so everyone is clear when nobody was standing up with reason in the 60s and 70s R.C. Sproul was out there like Paul The Apostle and now Voddie is doing what we were all supposed to do. Doings everything to the Glory of God.
Drew!
God's church is alive and healthy in places where you'd least expect it. During Covid we became disillusioned by what was going on in our own church, and found a very healthy, Gospel preaching, growing congregation even here in the suburbs of Burlington, VT. We're supporting NETS...an organization that is training up new pastors to bring the Word to failing churches across this mission field of non-believers known as New England.
That's awesome!! Glad to hear God is working ❤
Andrew Klavan and Voddie Baucham - yes! The beauty of the interweb is how we get to observe fascinating conversations between people from different arenas of society. Two gentleman I love listening to and together discussing a wonderful topic. Brilliant!
This instilled so hope in me today. Thank you Uncles ♥♥🙌🏽🙌🏽
He’s so solid!
I have been listening to Voddie’s sermons for over 10 years. Outside the Bible, no one has helped shape my worldview and helped my biblical understanding more. Thank you for this interview. God is using you and others with a platform like yours to impact this culture for the Kingdom of God. God Bless you!
My boyyy Voddie!! You should bring on William Lane Craig, John Lennox and Richard Swineburn on your show next! The conversations with those men will blow everyones minds. They're absolute geniuses.
The people you listed are some of the smartest Christians alive… and none of them are calvinists.
@@coreycox4193 yes they are, I love them. Great minds of our time, but I'm confused on what the calvinism part has to do with anything haha
Lennox isnt a Calvinist?
@@anitasmith203 what? So what lol I never said he was? I said he should bring them on his show. I never said what any of these men's religious beliefs are.
Voddie is looking older and it makes me sad. He is the best biblically faithful preacher of my life.
Andrew, please have Voddie on again and for a longer time. Thank you.
I always enjoy listening to Voddie Bauchaum. Glad you had him on.
Voddie is one of the best preachers today. Especially on CRT, Marxism, BLM
I would kind to see this Voddie Baucham trend make its way to JP
Yes! I keep waiting for Candace. . . 🙏🙏🙏
Go Voddie! May God guard all your ways according to His word.
One of your best interviews ever Andrew. Voddie Baucham is the man! ( Of God😁). Another great interview would be a friend of his, Douglas Wilson, from Canon Press. Wilson has a great wit and dry humor and writing skills akin to yours. You two are very different, yet similar in a good way. He would open up your audience as well. When I saw Klavan , Baucham , I knew it would be good! God bless.
Great interview, Andrew.
It’s a pleasure get to eavesdrop on the meeting of a couple of intellectuals like yourselves.
He is right about the state of the American church, there are definitely problems but there are also some great strengths. During the pandemic the churches were the main institution that pushed back against the lockdowns.
Voddie is the best
Loved this interview, thanks for bringing voddie on, I'll check out some of the sermons he's done
I bless the Lord for these two amazing men! A really hopeful and inspiring interview! Love and appreciate both Andrew and Voddie...
Our only Hope is God! Amen brother Baucham!
Honestly, the old intro was orders of magnitude better than the new "slick" version..
Priest, Provider, Protector and Progenitor.
I can relate to you Andrew. I've been married to the love of my life coming up on 45 years. Christ has been the center of our marriage and there is no way to describe how beautiful marriage can be. We have 6 grown daughters and 11 grandchildren. All are walking with the Lord and that is a true blessing. I didn't meet the Lord until I was 19 and the Lord brought my wife along 2 years later. We married 9 months later. God bless you.
The True Church is the only institution Jesus Himself promised to build. You shouldn’t doubt Jesus’ capacity to build perfectly.
(17:17) Being squeamish has been the greatest weakness in the wall of Conservative families; the Left found this weakness, breached it, and wreaked havoc through this.
I know I find it very hard to talk about this topic. But I also find it very hard to even want to find joy.
Excellent! TU 😊
Klavan should have a Young Earth Creationist, like Ken Ham or Kurt Wise, or perhaps Dr Jason Lisle.
So inspiring! Thank you!
Great interview
Voddie is the man!!
Here are 2 guys i enjoy listenifn to.
I’m getting that book!!!!!!
26:50 Amen, repent and make God your all.
'King Lear' was not one of Shakespeare's final plays
Andrew said "great final plays." Perhaps he didn't mean the final plays chronologically but rather the more famous of Shakespeare's later work.
I wonder what Voddie thinks about your son's Spencer's marriage? I bet her is supportive and constructive in that
Christian men ignore what the Bible actually says about women.
As a foreigner and catholic I can relate to Voddie that US in terms of faith and christians is better off than any part of the world.
As a fellow Catholic in the US, we may have more opportunity and freedom to worship God, but we also have apathy and self-worship running rampant.
The problem is people who only look at half of what God says, even (or especially) Christians. Right after where God says the guy is in charge, the guy is required to love his wife sacrificially all the way up to dying for her. Which end of that bargain do you want? Today in dying secular marriage we try to say it's 50/50 (my wife and I both started that way) but it NEVER is. When the woman takes the 51% and demands the man sacrifice for her what do you think will happen? If the man demands his rightful 51 uet does not sacrifice what is going to happen? If you strive for 50/50 all you have is strife.
The verse in Ephesians immediately before "Women submit to your husbands" is "husbands and wives submit to one another". The glory of Christian marriage is that both submit to each other... neither attempts to dominate the other. Claiming the Bible justifies domination either direction is blatantly ignoring the same-passage context of the verses they misuse.
You're still missing some important words. The husband is THE ONE head of the marriage. There must be one component that has the position of head. There will be instances where husband and wife do not agree and a decision has to be made. The husband has the authority to make that decision. That comes with the responsibility for whatever that decision leads to. It shouldn't necessarily happen often. But without ONE person being in authority over the other, chaos ensues. There are ways to do this that does not remove a shred of integrity or respect from the wife. It's an art that too few desire to study/learn. It's a shame, because it really shouldn't be a big deal.
@@laurenbatson5918 You make a good point, and it merges with my earlier point to highlight a concept: what does leadership without domination look like? That is truly an artform!
Leadership without domination depends on willing obedience.
Why would one be obedient willingly? Because of the conviction that the leader has your best interest in mind, and knows better than you.
It's quite a journey to get to that point.
Submitting to one another in the fear of God. It specifically says wives submit to your husband's. The first verse is not meaning like husbands, take orders from your wife, it's like mutually dedicate yourselves to each other so as to not get the wrath of God. The second verse is specifically saying that wives should submit to the husband, as in be the second to the first, follow his lead, and potentially do what he says if it comes to that. And it's not a conditional command, so you can't break it if he just makes you feel bad and construe that as not being in your best interest or not following God to get out of your duties
It looks like crossing your fingers and hope she feels like submission. If she doesn't RIP. @@WynTheGrey
Does Voddie confront Andrew in this video about his acceptance of homosexuality?
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Where I feel forgotten and hopeless Lord Let your water of life comfort me. Even though I fell on hard times these pass three years. I’m holding on and keeping faith even though it’s hard. Faith is our armor against the enemy. I keep faith even as I constantly struggle to provide for my children and I constantly struggle to buy groceries. My husband died years ago. At times I feel so alone especially as a single mom. Since suffering a heart attack two years ago and my on going battle with lupus I’m overwhelmed and discouraged. Both of my sons are autistic but because of you Lord they are thriving. I’m now homeschooling them so my hours to work are limited. I’m afraid Lord. Afraid of homelessness. Thankfully I have you Lord! I know you will continue to provide you have this far. I LOVE YOU HEAVENLY FATHER.
Did your church help you yet?
Omg GET TO ITTTTTT
"Never sign a contract where the other party is rewarded for breaking it."
Given the current family court laws - there are few places in America where it's possible to have a Christian marriage. Most parts of the country only allow pagan male servant pacts where a pagan woman selects a man to own, dominate and control.
Pagan is a very vague term
Yes, it's honestly very debateable that if getting married in the USA is even godly because the marriage laws are so perverse as to put women above men, there's legitimate argument that Christian men should obstain from marriage untill the women are not put above them.
Bring back Hunky Dunky, you godless heathens.
I KNOW!
I have long divorced marrige and family from polotics and tradition.
God loves guod menfolk!💋⚔️🎯🕊‼️
Voddie graciously over looked your slip of the tongue, calling Zambia Zombia, unless that was a democrat messing with the sound track.
I love how he potificates like he has something to say.
Great isn’t it. Especially as he does have something to say.
Pontificate...you’re welcome.
He certainly does have something to say!
I'm not signing the government's slave contract. I'm not agreeing to be ruined at the whim of any woman.
No wife, no strife.
No sex either... Unless you are a fornicator.
@@diannalaubenberg7532 Sex is not worth a man's life. Modern women are not worth it.
@@diannalaubenberg7532 Fornication is an emotionally loaded term
Did he ask Vodie about his son's "marriage"?
I wonder how Andrew builds his bridges, considering he fully accepts his son and son-in-law. He is one of the very few conservative Christians to publicly affirm same-sex marriage.
I still wonder how Spencer can categorise his personal life and professional life, since most of his pals (Knowles, Walsh, Beck, MacArthur, Stuckey) wish for him to leave his husband.
Andrew freely says that same sex "marriage " is not really marriage. He loves his son, despite his sexual preferences. I'm sure he wishes it were different
@@diananeuman6222 I've seen several videos where says that a same sex-relationship, if loving and healthy, can be a good thing, that he has many gay friends and that he can strongly empathise with gay people who have been rejected by their parents.
He is very critical of activists and will play into the culture, but it in the end he seems to be ok with it.
He's entirely ok with it. That's why I stopped watching him.@@js1423
Exactly what I'm wondering. I sure hope Voddie confronted Andrew on his acceptance of homosexuality.
EVANGELICALS: "sex is a gift from God that is to be mutually enjoyed in the marriage!"
ALSO EVANGELICALS: "Wives, your husband has a need you will never understand, and you need to give it to him even if you don't want to or he will go astray"
Remember men, don't agree to a contract that can and will be broken by the other party. Say no to marriage.
Marriage is a covenant.
I dont want to BURN 😅
@@laurenbatson5918 True, but for many nowadays, it's not done with sincerity and honorable intentions. God is benevolent and all knowing, but people aren't.
So you're telling men to be celibate for all of their lives, correct?
So you're telling men to be celibate for all of their lives, correct?
Voddie is my favorite, loved this conversation