This is definitely a good budget option of the holy trinity for someone who's just getting started. I haven't thought of these as a "holy trinity", but when I watched the video I thought "of course it is" 😊 Good video as always 😊👍🏼
The f2.8 and f4 are just way too expensive (for me). You either pay for low light performance and blurry backgrounds or pay more attention to your subject and the background. One costs money the other costs time. Right now I'll put in the time and save up the money.
@@faspete2nd ooo I like that actually, how is your experience with the R5 + 18-35mm I'm curious about the stabilization I'm shooting with he Eos M with magic lantern raw 2.8k raw and I depend on image stabilization because I don't have a gimbal
@@LouisLuzuka I really like the stabilization, but the 18-35 is for crop sensor camera and I have not tested it yet on the R5 to see if there is a bad vignetting.
This is a tough one to answer because there are so many factors at play. Budget, type of landscape, depth of field, weight of the kit you carry, native lens or not, and much more. If you have the 15-45 kit lens that's a good start. If not and you have budget for a lens then I would suggest any wide angle zoom. Maybe the EF-M 11-22 or the Sigma 18-35, but you'll need the adapter of you go with Sigma. So many options, but I would stick with wide angle zoom.
Great video. I also have an M6 Mkii, and for travel purposes, all round versatility, I have a Tamron 18-400 F3.5-5.6 Di VC HLD (model B028). It is an absolute beast of a lens, and means I don't have to carry or change multiple lenses when traveling. Cheers.
Thanks for making time to whip up this informative video. This is helpful. I have a Sigma 16mm F/1.4, 7artisans 55mm F/1.4 and the Meike 25mm F/1.8 as my trio primes. Yeah, I shoot manual and fortunately for me the manual lens are cheap with a capital C. 😂
@@LouisLuzuka I do have the Sigma. I got it a few years ago when I got the M50. I sold the M50 but kept the Sigma for the M6 Mark II. I like the M6 a lot. It's not perfect, but does a good job for what I need right now. Looking forward to the Canon RF APS-C. Here is a link to a lens comparison that's real good. th-cam.com/video/T3UfbsdfUu8/w-d-xo.html
Over the years I've bought a few lenses for my Canon APS-C cameras (40D, 60D, 80D). My absolute favorite on the EOS M6 Mark II is the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 DC HSM Art. It's just as expensive as the M6 body, but it's worth every penny. Right now this is my standard lens for city, street and architecture photography. I love it :-) For wide angle I use the TOKINA ATX-i 11-16mm F2.8 and for telephoto an almost 20 year old Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L IS USM. Actually, these lenses are all much too big and heavy for the Canon M system, but the results achieved with them speak for themselves.
@@faspete2nd Indeed a great lens, even if it doesn't quite fit the price range of your video. Surprisingly, the lens works better on my EOS M6 Mark II than on my EOS 90D, even both cameras have the same sensor. Do you have an explanation for this?
I like you, Pete - I really do... (I don't care that my wife thinks you're a bad influence - see "Time Lapse" video comments). However, I sort of disagree with one or two of your choices. I'll start with the premise that the main reason for buying an APS-C camera is that it does some great things but doesn't need a Tibetan Sherpa to lug everything about. The camera shouldn't be a burden or it won't get out and about as much as it should. Yes, I agree with a lens trinity but remember, a 35mm has always been a must have lens, for good reason. The EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 is pretty slow, and the EF-S 50mm f/1.8 (whilst fast) is the equivalent of a 80mm full frame lens. The first needs some 1/15th TLC (or a flash) in low light - and the second gets rid of half the family at a birthday party table... A (no adapter) Canon EF-M 22mm F/2 (ie a 35mm full frame equivalent) is about the thickness of a couple of beer mats, will be happy in lower light and moves us into bokeh territory in normal light. Not expensive either. Need I say more...? PS - I like your EF-S 55-250mm idea. I have an EF-M 55-200mm which, if it slipped out of the bag and rolled under a truck's wheels, I wouldn't shed a tear as I filled in the insurance form. What do you/ everyone think of the Viltrox Speed Booster in stead of a normal EF adapter? Is it a gimmick?
Thanks for feedback. Very entertaining to read with valid points. Tell your wife I said I am sorry. I am not intending to be a bad influence. I really am a good guy with good intentions. In addition, I hope I did not come across as not liking the ef-m lenses. There is nothing wrong with them. When I owned my M50 I had the 22mm, 15-45mm, and the Viltrox speed booster. They all worked great and the speed booster lived on the M50. It's not a gimmick and it gave you an extra stop of light to help with low light performance.
I hear you. I know lens options can be expensive, but I think these 4 are the best quality for the money. You can go native M-glass but you will still pay the same amount minus the adapter. There's no getting around the price of lenses. Trust me. My bank account is suffering as well. This hobby will drain funds fast. Shit gets expensive fast!
Here's a budget conscious suggestion: One camera, one lens, a fast enough memory card and a speedlight. Buy them all used if possible. It may not cover the focal range as the holy three, but you'll be able to work in any lighting condition. I still remember the silly smile I had on my face when I first tried bounce flash 📸 🙂
Is 50mm f1.8
Need adapter for m6mark ii ?
Yes. It needs the adapter.
Actually, they all need an adapter.
This is definitely a good budget option of the holy trinity for someone who's just getting started. I haven't thought of these as a "holy trinity", but when I watched the video I thought "of course it is" 😊 Good video as always 😊👍🏼
The f2.8 and f4 are just way too expensive (for me). You either pay for low light performance and blurry backgrounds or pay more attention to your subject and the background. One costs money the other costs time. Right now I'll put in the time and save up the money.
really interesting on what you choose for your choices, I love my 10-18mm and 55-250mm the 17-55mm looks like a beast too
The 17-55 was a beast. I sold it to help pay for the R5. I have the Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 so I felt comfortable letting go of the 17-55.
@@faspete2nd ooo I like that actually, how is your experience with the R5 + 18-35mm I'm curious about the stabilization
I'm shooting with he Eos M with magic lantern raw 2.8k raw and I depend on image stabilization because I don't have a gimbal
@@LouisLuzuka I really like the stabilization, but the 18-35 is for crop sensor camera and I have not tested it yet on the R5 to see if there is a bad vignetting.
@@faspete2nd interesting, I'm pretty interested in seeing that I heard so many things about the magical 18-35mm lens legendary.
Great video Peter, the information you share here is superb 👌🏼
Thanks!
It is the field of view that changes for the aps-c. The focal length is the same.
Correct. What do they call that...is it focal length equivalent? 50mm is always 50mm but you get the equivalence of 80mm. in APS-C
Some superzoom like 18-135 efs, or 18-150mm ef-m. That would be a good all around lens, despite the narrow iris. Nice vid, though, keep it up!
Cool, thanks! I would love to have a 600mm or 800mm. Wishful thinking, but we can all dream.
Great Advice for beginners in a budget
Glad it was helpful!
great vid, thanks!!! do the EF-S lenses require the adapter on the M6 mark II. And do only EF-M mount directly to the camera body without an adapter?
The EF-S lenses need the EF-EFM adapter to attach to the camera and the EF-M do not they mount directly to the camera without an adapter.
Thanks, very informative 👍🏻
My pleasure!
Hi Peter thanks for sharing! Just picked up a M6 Mkii , what would be a good starting lenses for landscape photography?
This is a tough one to answer because there are so many factors at play. Budget, type of landscape, depth of field, weight of the kit you carry, native lens or not, and much more. If you have the 15-45 kit lens that's a good start. If not and you have budget for a lens then I would suggest any wide angle zoom. Maybe the EF-M 11-22 or the Sigma 18-35, but you'll need the adapter of you go with Sigma. So many options, but I would stick with wide angle zoom.
Great video. I also have an M6 Mkii, and for travel purposes, all round versatility, I have a Tamron 18-400 F3.5-5.6 Di VC HLD (model B028). It is an absolute beast of a lens, and means I don't have to carry or change multiple lenses when traveling. Cheers.
Thanks for sharing!
is there any way that 50mm 1.8 can be mounted to aps-c like 700d/ rebel t5i?
The 50mm is an EF mount lens so it should work on any EF mount camera like the rebel. Any EF or EF-S lens will mount to the Rebel.
I would like to see more pictures
I'll see what I can do. Arizona is shut down at the moment due to the fires. All our forests are closed the public until at least August or September.
I saw you in the movie The Taking of Pelham 123 ! Lol. “John T”
I'm going to take that as a compliment Thank you.
@@faspete2nd it was !! When i started watching your video.. i was like.. omg this is John’s brother!!
Thanks for making time to whip up this informative video. This is helpful. I have a Sigma 16mm F/1.4, 7artisans 55mm F/1.4 and the Meike 25mm F/1.8 as my trio primes. Yeah, I shoot manual and fortunately for me the manual lens are cheap with a capital C. 😂
My pleasure. I'm happy it was helpful. I have never been into manual focus lenses with the exception of when I shot film back in 1988. 😀
@@faspete2nd keep on doing what you’re doing. It shows your passion through your content.
Good review, helped me a lot.
Thanks 👍
I love this I’m missing the 17-55mm and 50mm
I was going to get the 18-35mm but I like the idea of stabilizing
If I had one lens it would be a 50mm
Because the 17-55 is stabilized and a f/2.8 I'm going to sell my Sigma 18-35.
@@faspete2nd you have the 18-35?! Can you make a video next time vs 17-55mm f2.8 I’d love to see that
Also how are you liking the m6ii
@@LouisLuzuka I do have the Sigma. I got it a few years ago when I got the M50. I sold the M50 but kept the Sigma for the M6 Mark II. I like the M6 a lot. It's not perfect, but does a good job for what I need right now. Looking forward to the Canon RF APS-C. Here is a link to a lens comparison that's real good. th-cam.com/video/T3UfbsdfUu8/w-d-xo.html
Is there a bundle purchase of all the lenses?
Not that I know of.
If you could pick 1 lens to invest in what would it be and why? Let me know in the comments below.
Over the years I've bought a few lenses for my Canon APS-C cameras (40D, 60D, 80D).
My absolute favorite on the EOS M6 Mark II is the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 DC HSM Art. It's just as expensive as the M6 body, but it's worth every penny. Right now this is my standard lens for city, street and architecture photography. I love it :-)
For wide angle I use the TOKINA ATX-i 11-16mm F2.8 and for telephoto an almost 20 year old Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L IS USM. Actually, these lenses are all much too big and heavy for the Canon M system, but the results achieved with them speak for themselves.
@@andreask.6872 I absolutely love the Sigma 18-35.
@@faspete2nd Indeed a great lens, even if it doesn't quite fit the price range of your video. Surprisingly, the lens works better on my EOS M6 Mark II than on my EOS 90D, even both cameras have the same sensor. Do you have an explanation for this?
@@andreask.6872 Not sure why that would be.
@@andreask.6872 How does it perform better?
I like you, Pete - I really do... (I don't care that my wife thinks you're a bad influence - see "Time Lapse" video comments).
However, I sort of disagree with one or two of your choices. I'll start with the premise that the main reason for buying an APS-C camera is that it does some great things but doesn't need a Tibetan Sherpa to lug everything about. The camera shouldn't be a burden or it won't get out and about as much as it should. Yes, I agree with a lens trinity but remember, a 35mm has always been a must have lens, for good reason.
The EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 is pretty slow, and the EF-S 50mm f/1.8 (whilst fast) is the equivalent of a 80mm full frame lens.
The first needs some 1/15th TLC (or a flash) in low light - and the second gets rid of half the family at a birthday party table...
A (no adapter) Canon EF-M 22mm F/2 (ie a 35mm full frame equivalent) is about the thickness of a couple of beer mats, will be happy in lower light and moves us into bokeh territory in normal light. Not expensive either. Need I say more...?
PS - I like your EF-S 55-250mm idea. I have an EF-M 55-200mm which, if it slipped out of the bag and rolled under a truck's wheels, I wouldn't shed a tear as I filled in the insurance form.
What do you/ everyone think of the Viltrox Speed Booster in stead of a normal EF adapter? Is it a gimmick?
Thanks for feedback. Very entertaining to read with valid points. Tell your wife I said I am sorry. I am not intending to be a bad influence. I really am a good guy with good intentions. In addition, I hope I did not come across as not liking the ef-m lenses. There is nothing wrong with them. When I owned my M50 I had the 22mm, 15-45mm, and the Viltrox speed booster. They all worked great and the speed booster lived on the M50. It's not a gimmick and it gave you an extra stop of light to help with low light performance.
50mm 1.4 or 1.2 😍
Good choices. Very narrow depth of fields.
Except for the 50mm f/1.8, he needs to do a video on the Holy Trinity of bank accounts so a lot of us can afford these. 😁😁😁
I hear you. I know lens options can be expensive, but I think these 4 are the best quality for the money. You can go native M-glass but you will still pay the same amount minus the adapter. There's no getting around the price of lenses. Trust me. My bank account is suffering as well. This hobby will drain funds fast. Shit gets expensive fast!
nice sir
Thanks!
@@faspete2nd you are welcome sir
Here's a budget conscious suggestion:
One camera, one lens, a fast enough memory card and a speedlight. Buy them all used if possible.
It may not cover the focal range as the holy three, but you'll be able to work in any lighting condition.
I still remember the silly smile I had on my face when I first tried bounce flash 📸 🙂
To this day I have not used a flash. Definitely need to do some research on the topic.