awesome video as always!! thanks for being an in depth english speaking jnat reviewer in the specifity of knives. A lot of youtubers speak about jnats, but most are in regards to straight razor honing with very hard / fine finishing stones
i bought an ikarashi but mine is green. i got it from jns website. do you have any familiarity as to why mine would be a green hue? is it a different stone?
@@naturalwhetstones thanks for the reply! Yeah, mine definitely has the holes you were talking about too. So maybe not the finest specimen. It also came unflattened so I probably didn’t do the best job at shaping it before I sealed it in urushi lol.. but we live and we learn!
@@triccss I bet it is still a highly usable stone! I did have to flatten out all of mine too - it can take quite a while. I still enjoy the one I keep around and for the price I think they are worth picking up to give it a try. Have fun!
@@naturalwhetstones definitely a cheaper stone. And I suppose I could put more work into flattening it, i kinda tried to fast forward it. All I have is a 400 atoma plate to do it. What did you use? I’m still trying to learn the stone and see where it fits in my progression
@@triccss Yeah, I also use an Atoma but a 140. If you prefer, an email chain may be easier than YT comments. You can contact me here: naturalwhetstones.com/contact-me/
lol I cant believe i sent a Kasabori instead of a aizu to a huge aizu fan i feel bad!! ;) I usually use them ill blocks to condition Binsui etc...just a weird habbit... Thanks for the info nice vide mate.
Can you recommend the best stones I might want for a polished edge for a high carbon steel 440c Western knife with a grit equivalence of 12k+? Is shohonyama the same thing as honyama? My finishing stones right now are a Thuringian and Green and Black Shadow. Is the Black finer than the Green? It seems like I've seen conflicting information on them.
Polished edge for sharpening right? A fast JNAT Honyama for sure. Yes, Sho-honyama and honyama are used interchangeably now adays. I think current stock green are technically higher grit than black shadows but iirc once upon a time that wasn't the case. Tbh they have always been very close in performance where most people would fail a blind test imo, black is softer always. Generally you just want a fast Honyama for your needs, like a 3/5 - 4/5 stone which self slurries a little and a cut test shows dark black swarf. Idk what hardness you are talking here but all naturals will struggle above 64-65 hrc, though I find Arkansas stones have the most legs there as you can put a bunch of pressure on them.
@naturalwhetstones my higher grit finishing stones are orhira uchigumori, shohonyama Nakayama, green and Black Shadow, black Thuringian, Black Arkansas. I was thinking of getting a La Lune and Vermont slate, but I really love the grippy, velvety feel of the jnats. My knife is a high carbon, 56-58 Rockwell, 440c steel. Of the above, which would you think should be my last step finishing stone that will give me the best kasumi finish with no perceptible teeth? I thought the black or green might be the highest grit, but I really want a jnat for the last little bit. And I'd buy another jnat if you think my best finisher is one of the Europeans. I'm in love with the jnats.
Thanks for the tip, to be honest as long as you get the information, I am trying to convey I'm not too worried about a small pronunciation error. Always good to know though!
@@naturalwhetstones yeah fair enough man, just came across your channel and I look forward to watching the rest. Its just that I live in Japan and you don't hear any words being pronounced like that because the pronunciation of the language doesnt make any sound like that so it just sounds super weird! Haha. Not trying to attack ya or anything. Keep up the good work man
awesome video as always!! thanks for being an in depth english speaking jnat reviewer in the specifity of knives. A lot of youtubers speak about jnats, but most are in regards to straight razor honing with very hard / fine finishing stones
Glad you like it! Should have more starting up again soon
Another great and informative video. Please keep them coming!
Thanks! Aizu should be next week. :)
@@naturalwhetstones I'm looking forward to it!
Another great video.
Many thanks.
Thanks!
These stones are beautiful! Thanks for the video on them!
Another great video!!!
Thank you!
I'm really enjoying the aizu I got from, you buds ! Love your vids!
Glad you like it!
i bought an ikarashi but mine is green. i got it from jns website. do you have any familiarity as to why mine would be a green hue? is it a different stone?
Certainly the same stone, they just range in colors. At least one of the three in this video also came from JNS!
@@naturalwhetstones thanks for the reply! Yeah, mine definitely has the holes you were talking about too. So maybe not the finest specimen. It also came unflattened so I probably didn’t do the best job at shaping it before I sealed it in urushi lol.. but we live and we learn!
@@triccss I bet it is still a highly usable stone! I did have to flatten out all of mine too - it can take quite a while. I still enjoy the one I keep around and for the price I think they are worth picking up to give it a try. Have fun!
@@naturalwhetstones definitely a cheaper stone. And I suppose I could put more work into flattening it, i kinda tried to fast forward it. All I have is a 400 atoma plate to do it. What did you use? I’m still trying to learn the stone and see where it fits in my progression
@@triccss Yeah, I also use an Atoma but a 140. If you prefer, an email chain may be easier than YT comments. You can contact me here: naturalwhetstones.com/contact-me/
Hello , what are your thoughts on aizu stone ? I here good things about it. It is a bevelsetter for straight razors. Cind regards frank
Hey Frank, I have a whole video on it already!
th-cam.com/video/-1zX9TnGK_s/w-d-xo.html
Is there any Ikarashi you've seen that has an excessive amount of Enshou on the surfaces?
Like this one? ;P
naturalwhetstones.com/natural-whetstones/japanese-natural-stones-collection/ikarashi-enshou-nakatoishi/
@@naturalwhetstones more than this actually XD
Yep they are out there for sure.
lol
I cant believe i sent a Kasabori instead of a aizu to a huge aizu fan i feel bad!! ;)
I usually use them ill blocks to condition Binsui etc...just a weird habbit...
Thanks for the info nice vide mate.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Can you recommend the best stones I might want for a polished edge for a high carbon steel 440c Western knife with a grit equivalence of 12k+?
Is shohonyama the same thing as honyama?
My finishing stones right now are a Thuringian and Green and Black Shadow.
Is the Black finer than the Green?
It seems like I've seen conflicting information on them.
Polished edge for sharpening right? A fast JNAT Honyama for sure. Yes, Sho-honyama and honyama are used interchangeably now adays. I think current stock green are technically higher grit than black shadows but iirc once upon a time that wasn't the case. Tbh they have always been very close in performance where most people would fail a blind test imo, black is softer always.
Generally you just want a fast Honyama for your needs, like a 3/5 - 4/5 stone which self slurries a little and a cut test shows dark black swarf. Idk what hardness you are talking here but all naturals will struggle above 64-65 hrc, though I find Arkansas stones have the most legs there as you can put a bunch of pressure on them.
@naturalwhetstones my higher grit finishing stones are orhira uchigumori, shohonyama Nakayama, green and Black Shadow, black Thuringian, Black Arkansas.
I was thinking of getting a La Lune and Vermont slate, but I really love the grippy, velvety feel of the jnats.
My knife is a high carbon, 56-58 Rockwell, 440c steel.
Of the above, which would you think should be my last step finishing stone that will give me the best kasumi finish with no perceptible teeth?
I thought the black or green might be the highest grit, but I really want a jnat for the last little bit.
And I'd buy another jnat if you think my best finisher is one of the Europeans. I'm in love with the jnats.
Love the videos, very informative. Just one.gripe, the way you pronounce binsui! Haha. It's bin sue ii or e not bin sway
Thanks for the tip, to be honest as long as you get the information, I am trying to convey I'm not too worried about a small pronunciation error. Always good to know though!
@@naturalwhetstones yeah fair enough man, just came across your channel and I look forward to watching the rest. Its just that I live in Japan and you don't hear any words being pronounced like that because the pronunciation of the language doesnt make any sound like that so it just sounds super weird! Haha. Not trying to attack ya or anything. Keep up the good work man
@@wabisabi-ken3534 All good, always appreciate the input. Thanks for dropping a line :)