Traxxas X Maxx Ultimate (Still has the same issue as all X Maxx's) EP. 5
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Iv had an xmaxx for several years now and have never had a problem 🤷♂️. I’m running a max 5 with the stock motor.
Same here
4 xmaxxes. Broke gears in one and it was completely my fault for landing wrong in throttle. Xrt now zero issues with gears. Plus I’ve learned how to drive better.
But I’ve seen this issue with mesh. I go 46/20 or22-23 you can hear it click better on mesh
This guy as much as I enjoy some of his videos has a tendency to not like traxxas rigs however he does love his arrmas etc seems to me he gets freebies with arrma and m2c racing etc …nothing wrong with that but it creates a biased opinion in the end
Interesting. I use the pins, but just ignore the labeling and use whatever position gets the mesh right.
Cool, I think I may just try that if its too tight, do some testing... my first x maxx the motor got too hot so I put the arrma 5th scale system in it with new mount and esc plate it's great now waiting for my second x maxx now...
The pin system works great, years and years of running XMAXX. The pins are extra support for the motor mount and it works great.
IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!!! For anyone having issues with burning up their pinion and spur gear and youve done and tried everything to correct the issue to no avail.. The stock xmaxx motor has a HUGE design flaw that no TH-camr is talking about!! I found this out myself while having non stop gear mesh issues since my xmaxx was new out of the box. The Stock motor has PLASTIC end caps.. These end caps become loose and the holes wollow out on the motor casing! This causes your motor mount to be loose ON THE MOTOR ITSELF so when you think you have your motor mount bolted in nice and tightly to your chassis you wont even rellixe that your motor is ever so slightly rocking back and forth on the motor mount! This causes your gear mesh to be ever changing from too tight to too loose! I spent SO much money on my xmaxx replacing every single item remotely realiated to the gears and its mesh to no avail.. I went through COUNTLESS pinion and spur gears from mod 1 to mod 1.5 .. hardened or NOT! Finally I decieded to do a motor swap knowing it was the ONLY thing left that could be causing the issues (I thought the motor shaft must be bent) and only after FULLY removing the motor and looking at it closely did I realize that the motor mount was never tight to the motor itself from day ONE. and only kept getting worse with time..
MORAL OF THE STORY: If you think youve tried everything and are still having gear /gear mesh issues then get rid of that factroy motor! I listened to all the youtubers who said "Stock motor is great, no need to replace it!" and I got burned because of it! Dont be like me and save yourself the trouble as even if its not causing you an issue now.. it eventually will loosen up in the future and will start eating gears.
For anyone wondering.. I now run the Spectrum 1250kv motor with the thick 8mm shaft.. A max 6 ESC, a GPM 35t mod 1.5 Spur gear along with their lengthened spur gear shaft with the end bearing to help support all the torque.. and I run 13T / 14T GDS hardned mod 1.5 pinions which come with the bigger grub screw which is heaps better than any other pinion and it keeps the pinion from loosening up and falling off the shaft due to the tiny grub screws other companys use. The only good thing about having that hidden issue is ..now my xmaxx is fully upgraded because of it lol.
This is the problem with TH-camrs such as Jason and the rest of the m2c racing testers …..a stock x Maxx doesn’t need the all the aluminium extras doesn’t need a more powerful motor just a esc and upgrades in the right area such as captured pins servo esc tyres and gears
Adding all this extra weight will inevitably cause issues it’s just showcasing people to get the m2c hop ups and motors etc that these TH-camrs promote ……THUNDER RC proves you don’t need all this crap he’s one of the only TH-camrs to bash hard and show you all
Thunder rc bashes properly and unlike Jason who some of his videos are very good talks too much and babies his rigs I don’t know even why he upgrades them so much as he doesn’t bash hard at all
Thunder rc bashes properly and unlike Jason who some of his videos are very good talks too much and babies his rigs I don’t know even why he upgrades them so much as he doesn’t bash hard at all rich and the others bash hard but promote the other companies where Jason builds shelf queens …he does make good videos however if you want honestly go to thunder rc he bashes hard when 99% of us don’t send them like thunder and rich
I have 2 of the Xmaxx and have not blown any gears.With that said however I don’t send mine over a house😂I have found that the washers are a must if you do plan on bashing and a chassis brace.I have one with high speed pinion and one with stock pinion❤️
You can use the pin system just go one pin higher on the pin chart. The pins keep the rear and front of the motor perfectly aligned straight to make sure that the mesh between the spur and the pinion is at a perfect zero degree angle to each other.
I ran mine straight out of the box. Even if the pins are in they usually have some play in them. If you take them completely out the motor will move. I have metal motor mounts and the Traxxas metal washers still have to adjust almost every time. Just my experiences. Still going to watch your videos 😊
No. It’ll be fine. I’ve been doing it for years. Plus a lot of motor mounts work that way.
Great info.
I've got a buddy who just shredded his gears.
I gotta get him over here to your channel to check this out.
The Xmaxx I had was just ok with the pin system. The mesh was a little tight for my liking but it was runable. I've been in the hobby since the late 80's and I'm surprised at how few people don't know how to properly set gear mesh in any kind of vehicle. It's not rocket science. You explained it very well.
Had my x-maxx for over two years now with no issues with the pin system,im running 50/20 perfectly fine
I have beaten the snot out of my xmaxx for about 4 years now and I'm still running my original spur and pinion, never one had any issues. Ive broken SO MANY things on the truck but never once the spur or pinion. Maybe a quality control issue?
I can’t believe what you’re showing to us from Traxxas……. THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE.
Thank you so much, you’re the best, I was about to buy my first Xmaxx and I didn’t know this……………
I just bought a brand new xmaxx last week, I just quickly checked my gear mesh after watching your video, and I have to say the factory mesh was perfect! I'm glad i check tho so thanks for pointing out a potential mode of failure. I wonder if this problem is more down to random manufacturing tolerances or bad batches of parts making it into production?
Straight out the box I have 2 of them 5 years on one and one year on the other, both have max 5 esc and metal gear steering servo and I drive them like there is no tomorrow. Make sure the motor screws are tight and square on the gear and you shouldn’t have an issue, put steel gears in and I’ll be damned if they strip. Don’t forget to grease them baby’s at least once a year.
I’m on my second Xmaxx and my first Xrt and all three have done it. It’s just something you deal with when you leave it stock. Great video
Interesting video, I've heard a lot of people have issues with the gears but I have two Xmaxx's and have hundreds of jumps between each and many bashing sessions and while I have broken just about everything else, that has never been an issue for me. One of my X-Maxx is highly modified and the other one is mostly stock
I've ran the pins on both of mine and "Almost" had no issues so far but i have found this info useful. I currently have rebuilt my X-Maxx and now call her Ultimate Maxxine as my Ultimate X-Maxx she's currently running the original stock motor with Gen 1 Max 6 and she's a blast. Please let me know when you run your new ultimate i would love to see how it runs.
On my UDR the motor pin pushed itself right out the bottom of the tub chassis, Now I use a metal washer. All is good👍
All you have to do for the motor gears to be meshed properly, just move the motor pin to one gear tooth higher. Exp running 17t pinion put the motor pins on the 18t slot mesh will be good 👍🏼
Had stock gears for probably 40 plus packs of hard use and never had an issue 🤷. Just installed 19 tooth pinion from tekno and 50t spur from hot racing just because I wanted a better ratio. I still use the stock pin system and mount and it meshes perfect, zero issues thus far. I was fully ready to abandon the stock motor mount system if it didn’t mesh well, but it matched up great.
Im running stock and never had an issue yet fingers crossed 🤞 🎉🎉 but i do have other repairs
Great tip on the gear mesh fix!
My Ultimate mesh was tight out of the box.
Traxxas stole that c-clip on the end of the motor from arrma
When I built mine, I used the hot racing motor mounts on the original motor and the mesh didn't mesh well 😅 so I tried different pin settings and one of the leaves a bit of wiggle room so the gears are NOT gonna be at each other to death. Definitely not the pin settings they call for, just a fyi
I've been in the rc hobby for 10+ years now. I've gone through my fair share of gears. I can't for the life of me (even with aftermarket motor mount) keep my pinion on my stock xmaxx motor. Green/red locktite with a MIP driver. I even bought tekno gears that have the 2.5m grub screws and let it sit a week, and it still fell off in 5 minutes. My mesh great and bearings are new. I'm starting to question if my motor is just vibrating wayy too much
Clean the threads better
with a dremel,, shave a bit off the shaft where the grub screw sits. then apply loctite. will never come off again
They come with an oil on them from the manufacturer
Had the same problem and finally from some advice on Facebook group this has worked for me: Make sure to clean the new pinion with brake cleaner or equivalent, taking out the grub screw even to get the cleaner everywhere. Also clean the motor shaft. Then put blue Loctite into the hole on pinion some Loctite will get on motor shaft. Tighten down and leave truck 24-48hrs. I’ve done this exact process and it’s the only thing that worked. Hope this helps!
I’m not sure I’ve had my xmaxx for 4 years now with insane amount of abuse I’ve only stripped my pinion and spur once out of 100+ hours of hard use.
Tomorrow I’m getting a ultimate to finally get a fresh truck
The build is coming out great💪💯 Man those temps are insane🥶
After looking at this video, I just ordered a motor mount from America. It’s coming to Australia to me thx mate 😊
Fixin to get one of these this christmas season... gathering all the intel i can now.... thanks for this.
I think its only meant to work with traxxas monkey metal gear sets Jason, but when you put real gears in such as robinson racing or saga gears, they dont mesh right. That's my 2 pennies. I'd do mod 1.5 gear sets if i had an x maxx. All i have is big arrmas and boats, lol. With a sprinkle of traxxas e revo 2.0 amd built sledges. Cheers from utah!!
The pin system seems to work fine for my udr. I guess between the big tires and extra power it just fails on the xmaxx
New to the RC world, Luv the channel!! I just bought the XMAXX Ultimate as my first RC. pretty expensive hobby I see. Can you tell me where you [purchased the wheel spacers from?
I just loosen my motor mount, mesh them with no gap then move the car back and forth to gap the mesh on my talion. It sucks that Traxxas gets carried away with complicated crap
Never had a problem on my xmaxx or the 3 maxx I have. I bash hard too. In fact only time I ever had a problem is when I started running 6
S on my maxx and melted the gear. When metal and never had a problem
I just checked my Ultimate, the mesh is good. but thanks for letting me check
I have the ultimate. I’ve not had any problems with the pins. And I bash the hell out of it.
Wait a sec so thats exactly why it gets so high pitch compared to literaly any outher rc ive built or had
Can you please make a video how to set the mesh and pull the pins please I just bought an X-Max ultimate would like to see how you do it so I can do it so far I had to runs to two full charges through it and it hasn't done it yet I would like to get it done before it happens
I thought i was going crazy i yelled at the guy i got mine from for having it to tight took it apart after he reminded me of the pin update so yeah im definitely rippin them out perfectly meshed for plastic spurs tho
Sounds like operator error been using my xmaxx almost daily and still no stripped gears 🤔
Not at all. It's well known that traxxas gears are powered metal. Once you start running the truck, they'll go.
I’m surprised yall have broken more shit. Suspension is pretty bulletproof but hell I’ve broken every piece of the drivetrain on multiple accounts besides the center driveshaft and driveshafts themselves. Diff cups,rear diff,front diff,center diff,spur,pinion. They take a beating for a while but as they age they really start to fall apart drivetrain wise. Maxx holds up way better in the long run
I have 1st production run xmaxx . Have used shim paper under motor mounts since 2016.😮😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 if your truck doesn't cost when let off gas,your mesh is to tight an your temps well burn up motors ,batteries, escs,, now totally 8s machine like new.still shimed
I like my Xmaxx but the pins are useless. I admit that i like Arrma more than Traxxas but i do have a couple Traxxas rigs. I very much prefer the Arrma 6s and 8s motor mounting and adjustment. Like you said, mesh isn't rocket science.
That car cost 2000$ here in Norway. Ridiculous! 😂
It’s $2100 plus tax here in Canada 🇨🇦
did you ever show what good looks like vs mesh? you showed the before but not the after?
It's not in Traxxas interested to release vehicles that don't brake they make 100X more profit on parts then on vehicles initial sale.
The original xmaxx has a anemic servo because bad steering is likely do you result in crashing which means more parts.
Traxxas is in the profit business not in the having fun with you're RC business
Do you have a tutorial on how it should be done?
Is better you save some money for the new release traxxas maxx slash 1/7 😅
Ride my xmaxx8s for a lang time !never has let mw down
It should wear in after the first run
I dunno what you mean by, "properly meshing the motor by hand."
Day tuk tuk tuk ar jerbs!
Nice car! 😊
No issues on my xrt :) stock pin system, max 5 and stock gearing. It’s not rocket science.
High CG ESC mount is meh. I'd rather mount the ESC sideways.
The problem isnt the pin system its the pinion maker every brand is different. I use tekno pinions and they mesh perfect with the pins fit just like stock.
Very informative for the most part. However, you talked for nearly five minutes about *You can't believe Traxxas has not addressed or fixed the pinion /spur issue*, and how you recommend setting the mesh by hand, you failed to show us your method or HOW TO Properly do it. Or at least send a link to a different video showing how you do it. ???
I just slap it in . Seem good 👍
Following 👍
I bracci verdi sono in metallo????????????
Trash the pins …
You never even ran it, they're way smoother than original xmaxx, I noticed that right out of the box when I ran mine. No chipping nothing I have ran mine over a month. getting to geeked out and never ran it, if it was the cheap bronze gears, definitely change to traxxas harden steel gears both spur and pinion or another brand.
No idea what u talking about, never messed up my gears.
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Whey over reacted ,this video amd the mister