I’m reading hickmans avengers/secret wars and i love the ultimate universe. can anyone tell me what ultimate comics to read regarding secret wars (and the incursions)
Bold move by Hickman, I mean, Maker. Just about everyone agrees that, out all the Ultimate stuff, the one series that was consistently good was Spider-Man. The foundation by which that universe was built upon. And Maker’s like “Nah. Now it’s gonna be my story.”
The Maker is actually a good dude, & wants Peter to be happily married to Mary Jane & still have an uncle. The Maker hates wht Marvel's Editorial puts Peter Parker through.
Shits so wack they brought back the ultimate symbiote just to nuke it retroactively and now Maker has gone back home twice? But the first one is disregarded. Cool. Bad writing lol
@@maker6153 fr. I was hoping to see Ultimate Peter again after we saw a glimpse of him at the end of Spider-Men, but they're just trolling the readers now
What if the Marker fixes the Ultimate Universe? What if he prevents Magnito from destroying the ultimate Earth? What if he prevents Wanda Maximoff being in a romantic relationship with her biological brother?
@@alexsolomon8127 Very true. Its interesting what his plan will be for what they called universe 6160. I just hope they avoid the weird or edgy ultimate universe choices.
I feel like Reed Richards, with all of his multiversal knowledge, not putting mulitversal security measures in the Baxter building is a huge oversight.
It's going to be hard to imagine a universe without a version of Spider-Man so many characters are linked to him. Let's be truthful he's the heart of Marvel. Like what's going to happen with Venom, Rhino, Shocker, Carnage, Scorpion, Doctor Octopus and Jameson. I want to see what they come up with. Let's see if the Thinker actually stops a version of Spider-Man from existing in that universe and sees how much of a dramatic change the Ultimate universe.
@@deeznut709 many people think different, they claim miles are the true spider man, and peter stole miles name and miles friend, and its are time when should return to miles what was stolen from him. its are not my words everyone talks about it and everyone says peter must die and give a way miles
@@Solo__Tae many people think different, they claim miles are the true spider man, and peter stole miles name and miles friend, and its are time when should return to miles what was stolen from him. its are not my words everyone talks about it and everyone says peter must die and give a way miles
I like to imagine the Maker just walking up to a Krakoa gate with a shovel and digging it up and transplanting it like a tree as if no one had ever thought to do that
There's a question I've had for awhile that this comic seems to be answering. The question after the changes from Incursion. Also the Miles situation is hilarious. He's probably like,"SO. THAT BURGER YOU GAVE HIM MILES."
The maker is truly evil preventing my favorite version of Peter from becoming Spider-Man. Edit: nvm it looks like 6160 is the universe number not Ultimates 1610 (my favorite) or 616 (OG)? Confused
I think it’s opposite,Maker do really good thing for ultimate Peter,cuz ultimate Normal not gonna hunt him and try to kill,while I was read ultimate Spider-Man I felt really bad for Peter who can’t defeat such powerful guy like Norman,and no one could help him,not Fury,not Ultimates,and Peter just ends up dying by defeating Norman,you know in terms of story Maker does not do anything what wrong
I read Ultimate invasion the earth where Maker prevented spider’s bite is 6160 it’s not Ultimate universe,the comics explained guy doesn’t give you the full context of happening here
Caped Joel said this isn’t in fact 1610, this is a different universe that resembles the ultimate universe in a lot of ways (he gave the official designation in his video) and that what Reed is basically doing is shaping this reality to his own whims, he’s not back in 1610, I’m pretty sure it’s still destroyed. In Ultimate, Peter was at the science exhibit with more than just Liz, (he never even talked to her) he was there with his whole class and was talking with Mary Jane. And the Spider absolutely didn’t look like it did here. We will see going forward, but it clearly looks like the Maker is trying to “make” his own Ultimate universe, rather than go back to the one he’s from, which doesn’t seem to exist.
You're right about this probably being a different Earth, wrong about Earth 1610 being destroyed. Did nobody read Spider-Men 2 (2017)? The 1610 universe was reborn after the original 616 Universe Miles Morales crossed over to it, and we saw in the epilogue that Peter came out of retirement in the absence of 1610 Miles and is the leader of the New Ultimates team.
Earth-1610 was not destroyed, its still existing. This different earth is called Earth-6160, which is pretty similar to Earth-1610, except with The Maker tweaking/shaping the universe.
It's like you're over at your friend's house and his 8 year old brother, who's a little touched in the head, is excitedly telling you about the new story he made up with his action figures. You don't understand some of it, but the enthusiasm carries you along.
I thought Paul was the worst thing. Now Spider-Man doesn’t even exist for Paul to happen 😂 (yes I know Paul is main continuity and this is ultimates, but I still think it’s funny)
Rob your excitement is the thing that keeps me checking back in on American comics every now and then after switching to manga and dark fantasy Bandes Dessinées it is truly refreshing to view them through someone who has general exuberance for them. Keep it up.
I know the maker is evil and stopping spiderman from ever existing benefits him but... as his "brother" is is sparing spiderman the fate he always would have once he gained superpowers? With great power comes great responsibility in reverse sorta?
I feel like this is going to ultimately setup Miles returning to that universe due to there not being a spider-man in the new 1610 universe. I’m excited to see where this goes!
I doubt that in all honesty. Miles doesn’t have a reason to return to 1610 at all and he’s made 616 his home and has a lot more going for him there at the moment. I believe that Reed is going to make the Ultimates invade the Marvel universe and wreck havoc under a lie. But we’ll see what happens.
Maker is gonna end up being in the spot to recreate 1610 and he's gonna monolouge about how Reed showed him mercy, but Maker won't make that mistake and we're gonna lose Reed for a minute.
This is beautiful,Rob you are a different person than the one I started watching on my PS3 in 2012 or 13. You're like Redman. His old style is just as good as the new but you sound happy now.
I love the black bolt slander Rib does to him, also love how Rob is one of the few ppl to know how close T'Challa and Reed are. Everyone tends to forget their connection including T'Challa level of intelligence either due to the movies or the terrible run of the comics (looking at you john ridley) Also wtf happen to miles hair line, dear god what have they done to my boy lol
I genuinely cannot believe I'm saying this after all these years... I'm exicted to see what happens in the marvel comics. PLEASE PLEASE PLLLLEEEASE don't let this be a let down. They start start the ultimate universe back up I will go put and buy the physical comics to show my support
Couldn't Reed just... he actually destroy the bridge, but then he remakes it, so when he is confronted by Susan where she is all like, "I told you to destroy that!" Reed can just respond with, "I did. And then I rebuilt it." Something like that.
Don't get me wrong, I love the energy (most of the time), but I miss the days when not every one of your videos was an editorial. Like the ones that didn't have you shouting at us with the "LEMME TELLYA! LEMMETELL YA!"s and such. Just the cool calm reading of a very informative script.
My man, I love how much you enjoy these comics. I don’t read them really but I’ve been on a binge of TH-cam videos and I gotta say it’s very refreshing to have somebody sound so enthusiastic and excited about where plots are going.
this new ultimate universe is gonna be crazy, i wonder since Peter won’t be Spidey anymore if that means that we’ll get Miles as the original spidey of that reality or maybe we get someone completely new and different (plz don’t let it be spider boy tho lmao) or maybe there won’t be any spider person at all i wonder if Reed stopped it from biting Peter on purpose or if it was just a coincidence
Maker did it on purpose. Reed knows tht the Perfect Spider-Man Powerset (all the best abilities via various Spider-Men maxed out) is a top 10 non-cosmic powerset
Finally after years of watching his content I understand the context of all of the stories that lead to this : secret wars , the ultimate universe , crocoa, and even illuminati stuff
I think we are going to have an Ultimate Superior Spider-man in the new ultimate universe with peter under his wing. So this is what you get when Ultimate Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four going Doctor Doom and Ultron at the same time in terms of personality.
I have watched your videos for about 10 years. Nothing makes me love comics more than listening too how your react too Hickman writing. It’s like listening too how I feel about it. This is beautiful due too no one else in my life enjoying comics
Because a lot of fans, myself included, think he's a dull, uninteresting character. He has 2 or 3 traits in lieu of a personality: he's really powerful, and he's generally mute. (And he's a king. Or dictator. )I liked him best in Paul Jenkins and Jae Lee's run of Inhumans, but yeah, I think a lot of Marvel fans would rank him pretty low on their lists of favorite characters.( The Illuminati should replace Black Bolt with Doom.)
@@ampocalypsew3883 Oh absolutely he's a wildcard, they can never fully trust him, you're totally right! But from a writing/storytelling context? Pure gold. Some "fantastic" (🙄😋) stories would come out of it!
Any bets on who dies in this event? Because someone dies in every event. My guess? It will be Miles Morales. I think he’ll use that change your mind token the Maker gave him as a way to get in with the Maker and then blow up his operation from the inside. He’ll end up saving the 616 universe, but lose his life in the process. Hickman usually brings things from all the way in the beginning back to the end of the story.
He doesn’t prevent the origin of Ultimate Spider-Man (1610). He prevents the origin of a Spider-Man we’ve never seen before, in universe 6160. It’s likely a combination of 616 and 1610. It’s clearly a very intentional number, but it’s a new universe.
Somethings have changed this is a new place ..Notice u dont see Captain America and u also see Xavier who was dead as well. I said the same thing cuz i was surely jus as confused
I mean it isn't the Ultimate Universe at the end its 6160 not 1610. In Ultimate Spiderman he goes with MJ to Oscorp not Liz so it must be another universe Spiderman.
Fun fact: the word “ennui” (pronounced “on-we”) is a fancy French word for listlessness or boredom. When someone like The Maker uses words like this in a comic I can’t help but go look it up
I can't contain my obsession wiith the Ultimate Universe any longer!!! Thank you Jonathan Hickman. I need to read some of his greatest stories on Marvel Comics, but I'm going to read the entire Ultimate Universe.
I kinda don't like the "Stopping Ultimate Peter from becoming Spiderman" thing. I mean his story was by far the best one out of the entire Ultimate Universe and the way it ended with him being resurrected left a rather sour taste in my mouth, especially after the whole "Death of Spiderman" story which was amazing. So I was hoping they'd give him a second chance to sort of, idk, have more cool stories to make up for the bizarre immortality powers him and Norman got. But maybe it's just to early to say. (Btw wasn't Marry Jane Peter's only friend before he became "cool" later donw the line)
I wanna see Archangel teamup with The Maker & get a Signature Weapon & bond with a Symbiote! He's never in X-Books. Bring the best clone Kaine Parker back
"Reed Richards accounts for everything" *knows an alternate version of himself with identical biometrics exists, still uses mere biometrics for Baxter building security*
Okay I have to ask now .. if he went back in time to the point of stopping Peter from becoming ultimate Spider-Man what’s that do to miles on the main earth? Will he just phase out of existence? The idea being If ultimate Peter never became Spider-Man In the first place would the events still play out the same? Is miles a fixed point in reality this whole time? Wether it’s Peter who gets bit and dies eventually or Joe shmowe down the road is miles aways destined to take the mantle?
I think that Miles having been relocated into a different dimension (family and all) made him a little bit resistant to Time Manipulation that isn't on Earth-616
That’s not the case. This isn’t time travel, this is a new universe but made by how The Maker perceives it. Which means this isn’t the ultimate universe that we know of, it’s a universe that he created and he designed. Miles is alive and well in 616 along with his family, what Reed does there won’t affect him.
All bullets are faster than sound hence all are hypersonic. Ive been shot at Bullet whiz past my head .01 seconds after you hear the shot. Its why if you hear the shot you are not hit.
Video is amazing, i'm re-reading some the Ulitmate universe stuff and I need to get to The Maker. Dude seems badass! Also at 4:39 ennui is pronounced "on-we"
The Inhumans are amazing especially when given good storylines and clearly Hickman likes them well enough so I really don’t see what the problem is tbh.
I wish Hickman had stuck with what Donny Cates had established. I think The Maker being tasked to rebuild the ultimate universe by the council of reeds was a really cool goal for the character. I figured ultimate invasion would've built on that by The Maker invading and stealing the resources from the 616 universe. But i guess not. its whatever, ill read whatever hickman writes.
small correction on the Miles part: Miles doesn’t feel like going back to the Ultimate Universe, because yes, he’s settled into 616. But he doesnt remember the death of his mother or the abandonment or hardened past of his father or the death of his uncle it’s not that he’s not willing to go back because “there’s nothing to go back to”, he’s not willing to go back because he’s already settled into 616
Something thats probably gonna play a part in this is all the times recently weve seen the ultimate universe survive so my guess is that reed interrupting this huge event will trigger something on the side of the spider totems and the web of life and destiny while also causing miles to feel the direct side effects of this because the spider that bit miles was a direct result of ultimate norman finding out peters identity as spiderman then recreating the research and playing with adding his oz formula to the spider with out peter becoming spider this never happens
Love this channel. Rob, you’re the man. Sorry to do this buddy: Ennui (Pronounced like: On-we). That said, I have never been more excited for the return of the Ultimate Universe!
@@Microwave-Man That's your opinion, not a fact. But when it comes to current comics? I agree Miles is way better. Though it's an extremely low bar because atp everyone is better than Peter
Given how the Ultimate Universe had alot of gruesome stuff (including cannibalism and Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver having an incestuous relationship) I was not sad to see it go.
I'm not sure how to feel about the ending of this chapter, he prevented the creation of ultimate spiderman, but that means ultimate peter doesn't has to suffer what happened during that year that led him to his death
@@ampocalypsew3883 We’ll see what happens, but the best thing is Peter gets a chance to just live his life and not be burdened with being Spider-Man. So I’m at least happy with that.
I wish you'd cover Ultimate Avengers. The mini-series they did after Ultimatum. About the Ultimate Red Skull. I think you'd like the big reveal in it, Rob....
Can't believe that the writers forgot to count Ultimate universe Wolverine's son who survived the multiverse cataclysm. And is still currently in Earth-616.
Any guesses on why The Maker really asked Miles to come with him? When he was just going to go back in time in his reality........He could of said to Miles he was going to go back in time to a point his parents are alive. Was that ever specified in? and your just leaving it out? Rob really got me thinking. He never does anything with out a reason. AAAAHHHG I hate Timey Whimey shenanigans !
I’m reading hickmans avengers/secret wars and i love the ultimate universe. can anyone tell me what ultimate comics to read regarding secret wars (and the incursions)
Hickman’s Ultimates
^Listen to my brotha
ultimate spider-man, don't read ultimatum it sucks
Ultimate Fantastic Four a good run.
@@bobono ultimatum ultimate spiderman slaps hard
Rob's hate for Blackbolt is too funny
Funny, but real. Inhumans suck.
It's funny because in the card game Marvel Snap, most of the community shares the sentiment that BlackBolt is useless.
So much potential and always sucks, Rob is dead right about BB.
LItterally. If he could he'd fire him from the universe himself.
I think it's not hate, so much as it is unabashed disrespect and...Ok, yeah, pretty much, hate...
Let's be real, Marvel's been killing Spider-Man for years
If Venom n Carnage are getting god-tier power ups, what about Spidey?
@@tempestgravThe Enigma Force? But you’re right. It would be cool to see Peter and other Spider-Men/Spider-Women get cool power ups.
@Atomsk0192, I agree with you
Disney: if we can't have him, Sony can't either
Spider-Man was the holder of Captain Universe at one time and destroyed the tri-sentinel and sent the hulk into space from one punch.
Bold move by Hickman, I mean, Maker. Just about everyone agrees that, out all the Ultimate stuff, the one series that was consistently good was Spider-Man. The foundation by which that universe was built upon. And Maker’s like “Nah. Now it’s gonna be my story.”
The Maker is actually a good dude, & wants Peter to be happily married to Mary Jane & still have an uncle. The Maker hates wht Marvel's Editorial puts Peter Parker through.
Shits so wack they brought back the ultimate symbiote just to nuke it retroactively and now Maker has gone back home twice? But the first one is disregarded. Cool. Bad writing lol
@@maker6153 Not bad writing. just dismissed writing. which can be just as frustrating.
Not everyone.
@@maker6153 fr. I was hoping to see Ultimate Peter again after we saw a glimpse of him at the end of Spider-Men, but they're just trolling the readers now
What if the Marker fixes the Ultimate Universe? What if he prevents Magnito from destroying the ultimate Earth? What if he prevents Wanda Maximoff being in a romantic relationship with her biological brother?
Hes recreating the ultimate universe. Not time traveling.
@@nerovondoom6298 that's the trick though. he's recreating A VERSION of his universe. not the original. things are going to get very, very nasty.
@@alexsolomon8127 Very true. Its interesting what his plan will be for what they called universe 6160. I just hope they avoid the weird or edgy ultimate universe choices.
Just think from a spiderman standpoint, without spiderman as we know him being there during the events of the ultimate run ... What does that cause?
Lmao
I feel like Reed Richards, with all of his multiversal knowledge, not putting mulitversal security measures in the Baxter building is a huge oversight.
This is giving me that Hickman feeling already.
The art, the set up. I knows this is gonna be some heat
It's going to be hard to imagine a universe without a version of Spider-Man so many characters are linked to him. Let's be truthful he's the heart of Marvel. Like what's going to happen with Venom, Rhino, Shocker, Carnage, Scorpion, Doctor Octopus and Jameson. I want to see what they come up with. Let's see if the Thinker actually stops a version of Spider-Man from existing in that universe and sees how much of a dramatic change the Ultimate universe.
Don't worry our boy miles will handle everything😂, did you know miles was first Spider-Man?, i didn't knew but some dude told me 😂 in comments,
@@Herculestt5588 miles wasn't the first spiderman
@@Herculestt5588😂😂😂😂😂😂 u to gullible
@@deeznut709 many people think different, they claim miles are the true spider man, and peter stole miles name and miles friend, and its are time when should return to miles what was stolen from him. its are not my words everyone talks about it and everyone says peter must die and give a way miles
@@Solo__Tae many people think different, they claim miles are the true spider man, and peter stole miles name and miles friend, and its are time when should return to miles what was stolen from him. its are not my words everyone talks about it and everyone says peter must die and give a way miles
I like to imagine the Maker just walking up to a Krakoa gate with a shovel and digging it up and transplanting it like a tree as if no one had ever thought to do that
Can’t believe Hickman would join the ‘You know what, f*ck Spider-Man’ trend. He was the chosen one.
Yeah, Spider-Man is the chosen one of Marvel.
He's giving peter a better life tbh
Gotta kill there profits somehow
feels like there’s clearly some sorta plan for this, i’d give it time to see how it turns out before jumping down his throat
@@DwellingTheAbyssfacts now he doesn’t have to get cucked by Paul
There's a question I've had for awhile that this comic seems to be answering. The question after the changes from Incursion.
Also the Miles situation is hilarious. He's probably like,"SO. THAT BURGER YOU GAVE HIM MILES."
Spider-Man was one of the few hero’s in ultimate Spider-Man who were actually HEROs. This is awful for the Ultimate universe. Evil will reign 😂
Earth 42 is becoming more plausable now. xD
I’m telling u, I think the maker will be the new doctor doom in the ultimate universe and it’s pretty scary.
I thought the same thing. This is basically Ultimate Dark Reign
man, spiderman always gets hit even when he has nothing to do with anything lol
The maker is truly evil preventing my favorite version of Peter from becoming Spider-Man.
Edit: nvm it looks like 6160 is the universe number not Ultimates 1610 (my favorite) or 616 (OG)?
Confused
I hope the maker do that to main peter
He done so much tortune from writer🤣
I think it’s opposite,Maker do really good thing for ultimate Peter,cuz ultimate Normal not gonna hunt him and try to kill,while I was read ultimate Spider-Man I felt really bad for Peter who can’t defeat such powerful guy like Norman,and no one could help him,not Fury,not Ultimates,and Peter just ends up dying by defeating Norman,you know in terms of story Maker does not do anything what wrong
@@dweeb7991 hell yeah
Well technically maker saves peters life
I read Ultimate invasion the earth where Maker prevented spider’s bite is 6160 it’s not Ultimate universe,the comics explained guy doesn’t give you the full context of happening here
I'm gonna guess Peter will still become Spider-Man, some way or another.
after what’s happening with the main run we can only hope
I concur with ya both.
Cyborg spiderman?
it is a canon event so i'm sure Miguel will step in
There is a chance miles will come back to the ultimate universe.
Caped Joel said this isn’t in fact 1610, this is a different universe that resembles the ultimate universe in a lot of ways (he gave the official designation in his video) and that what Reed is basically doing is shaping this reality to his own whims, he’s not back in 1610, I’m pretty sure it’s still destroyed. In Ultimate, Peter was at the science exhibit with more than just Liz, (he never even talked to her) he was there with his whole class and was talking with Mary Jane. And the Spider absolutely didn’t look like it did here. We will see going forward, but it clearly looks like the Maker is trying to “make” his own Ultimate universe, rather than go back to the one he’s from, which doesn’t seem to exist.
Yeah I definitely remember MJ
Johnathan Hickman love accurate details in his stories,Peter in the final doesn’t look accurate to ultimate one
You're right about this probably being a different Earth, wrong about Earth 1610 being destroyed. Did nobody read Spider-Men 2 (2017)? The 1610 universe was reborn after the original 616 Universe Miles Morales crossed over to it, and we saw in the epilogue that Peter came out of retirement in the absence of 1610 Miles and is the leader of the New Ultimates team.
@@Flynnicus yeah that was a good read, one of the last good work from bendis before he leaves marvel.
Earth-1610 was not destroyed, its still existing. This different earth is called Earth-6160, which is pretty similar to Earth-1610, except with The Maker tweaking/shaping the universe.
I can never get enough of Rob's excitement. Just finished this comic last night and I was so hyped! The Maker is one of my fav characters
I hope the maker cameback as main villian again
It's like you're over at your friend's house and his 8 year old brother, who's a little touched in the head, is excitedly telling you about the new story he made up with his action figures. You don't understand some of it, but the enthusiasm carries you along.
Dang marvel making Spider-Man’s life miserable who would of guessed
I thought Paul was the worst thing. Now Spider-Man doesn’t even exist for Paul to happen 😂 (yes I know Paul is main continuity and this is ultimates, but I still think it’s funny)
Peter not being Spider-Man is for the best when it comes to Ultimate
The Maker front and foremost is awesome! Also The Maker needs to go toe to toe with Charles over costume copyright
The maker is literally just Charles and main continuity reed mashed together 😂
Nah and nah, maker wore it first. And the maker has nothing to do with prof x, just an insane dope rendition of reed
@@halfwaybrooks4202 I know Maker had the look first. I want him to kick Charles ass for not being original lol
I love it when you cover a story that includes Black Bolt, the comments and shade are hilarious!!
The Black Bolt slide…at this point it’s a canon event. In every reality, Rob will always dunk on Black Bolt every chance he gets.
Robs hate for Black Bolt is always hilarious
Well inhuman are useless i dont blame him🤣
Rob your excitement is the thing that keeps me checking back in on American comics every now and then after switching to manga and dark fantasy Bandes Dessinées it is truly refreshing to view them through someone who has general exuberance for them. Keep it up.
It bugs me how Hickman ignores the makers doings up until now in 616.
I know the maker is evil and stopping spiderman from ever existing benefits him but... as his "brother" is is sparing spiderman the fate he always would have once he gained superpowers? With great power comes great responsibility in reverse sorta?
Well the maker and peter is friend even from ultimate universe before so not suprise
Hold up peter and the maket are friends like how??
@@davidcruz2705 spiderman is friends with the fantastic four but I don't remember if they are in the ultimate universe
@@goobiedoobithey are before Reed lost his mind. Also Human torch lived with spicy before he died
The way Hickman is handling the maker in the restart of the 1610 universe so far is off to a good start.
It's been years, and Rob is still coming with that black bolt slander 😂
I feel like this is going to ultimately setup Miles returning to that universe due to there not being a spider-man in the new 1610 universe. I’m excited to see where this goes!
I doubt that in all honesty.
Miles doesn’t have a reason to return to 1610 at all and he’s made 616 his home and has a lot more going for him there at the moment.
I believe that Reed is going to make the Ultimates invade the Marvel universe and wreck havoc under a lie. But we’ll see what happens.
Spider-Man (Peter) is back in the Ultimate Universe. He came back due to the Goblin formula.
Peter was still alive in that universe.
@@jordanschaefer4643 The Ultimate Universe is gone. And that’s because of Secret Wars.
@@lex_rodriguez He’s actually still dead, and so is the entire universe.
Maker is gonna end up being in the spot to recreate 1610 and he's gonna monolouge about how Reed showed him mercy, but Maker won't make that mistake and we're gonna lose Reed for a minute.
Man, that Black Bolt bias is strong and stanky in this one.
Yea because irl black bolt is kinda op. He jus gets nerf n shafted 25/8
My theory is that Black Bolt must of kicked Rob’s puppy at some point.
@@Shugg12he's not that op out if all of the Illuminati, seeing as they have become stronger thn he has ever become individually
This is beautiful,Rob you are a different person than the one I started watching on my PS3 in 2012 or 13. You're like Redman. His old style is just as good as the new but you sound happy now.
I love the black bolt slander Rib does to him, also love how Rob is one of the few ppl to know how close T'Challa and Reed are. Everyone tends to forget their connection including T'Challa level of intelligence either due to the movies or the terrible run of the comics (looking at you john ridley)
Also wtf happen to miles hair line, dear god what have they done to my boy lol
I genuinely cannot believe I'm saying this after all these years... I'm exicted to see what happens in the marvel comics.
PLEASE PLEASE PLLLLEEEASE don't let this be a let down. They start start the ultimate universe back up I will go put and buy the physical comics to show my support
They killed him in his main comic too💀story is awful
They didn't actually kill him
@@mkguyadame4340 I'm talking about the story being terrible
@@maliklofton9148 but it's only one comic and it's pretty good
@@mkguyadame4340 The current run for Spider-Man is awful imo
@@maliklofton9148 good thing this is a different story
Couldn't Reed just... he actually destroy the bridge, but then he remakes it, so when he is confronted by Susan where she is all like, "I told you to destroy that!" Reed can just respond with, "I did. And then I rebuilt it."
Something like that.
She would have get even more pissed than him not destroying the Bridge
😂
Don't get me wrong, I love the energy (most of the time), but I miss the days when not every one of your videos was an editorial. Like the ones that didn't have you shouting at us with the "LEMME TELLYA! LEMMETELL YA!"s and such. Just the cool calm reading of a very informative script.
Lemme tell you something !!
As someone who only came across his videos recently I would honestly would prefer that
My man, I love how much you enjoy these comics. I don’t read them really but I’ve been on a binge of TH-cam videos and I gotta say it’s very refreshing to have somebody sound so enthusiastic and excited about where plots are going.
this new ultimate universe is gonna be crazy, i wonder since Peter won’t be Spidey anymore if that means that we’ll get Miles as the original spidey of that reality
or maybe we get someone completely new and different (plz don’t let it be spider boy tho lmao) or maybe there won’t be any spider person at all
i wonder if Reed stopped it from biting Peter on purpose or if it was just a coincidence
Spider boy
Spider-Reed
Maker did it on purpose. Reed knows tht the Perfect Spider-Man Powerset (all the best abilities via various Spider-Men maxed out) is a top 10 non-cosmic powerset
Bro they did what to Peter???
Oh nah
Of course it will be miles. Marbella has been shitting on Peter every chance they get lately.
Isn’t Ultimate Wolverine son Jimmy Hudson still alive? I think he was last seen in possession of a poison symbiote
Yeah he’s alive, but no one talks about him
He's the only one who can kill evil Reed lol
@@kingdon7795 knowing marvel, yeah
The disdain for black bolt makes me laugh every time😂
Finally after years of watching his content I understand the context of all of the stories that lead to this : secret wars , the ultimate universe , crocoa, and even illuminati stuff
I was literally thinking the same thing. We’ve become old
Krakoa
If i was in the Illuminati i was scream "ILLUMINATI" everytime we met up, as a reference to the rap group.
Something else that's being ignored is The Maker was in possession of the Ultimate Venom suit and modified it extensively
Yeah, he mixed it with the 616 Symbionte
I thought he lost it off-screen or on an event i missed
But apparently it was just being ignored
Accept for Blackbolt, "Blackbolt sucks", I spit water all over my keyboard. You kill me Rob! Great video!!!!
I think we are going to have an Ultimate Superior Spider-man in the new ultimate universe with peter under his wing.
So this is what you get when Ultimate Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four going Doctor Doom and Ultron at the same time in terms of personality.
Who will be the superior spiderman? Reed?
The bridge appeared first in Ultimate Comics Fantastic 4. It’s the same issue where Reed gets tricked by Zombie Reed Richards.
I have a feeling this is Marvels way of making Miles the OG Spider-Man of the new Ultimate Universe
I kinda hope tgat doesn't happen
If they make miles OG Spider-man I will never watch or read anything about Spider-man
@@The_PaleRider lol why? It would just be an alternate universe unrelated to 616 lmaoo dramatic
@@The_PaleRider dafuq? Care to explain
@@The_PaleRider Actual racism
I have watched your videos for about 10 years. Nothing makes me love comics more than listening too how your react too Hickman writing. It’s like listening too how I feel about it. This is beautiful due too no one else in my life enjoying comics
Why do you keep saying Blackbolt sucks? He could kill everyone in that room in an instant by simply whispering "hello".
Because a lot of fans, myself included, think he's a dull, uninteresting character. He has 2 or 3 traits in lieu of a personality: he's really powerful, and he's generally mute. (And he's a king. Or dictator. )I liked him best in Paul Jenkins and Jae Lee's run of Inhumans, but yeah, I think a lot of Marvel fans would rank him pretty low on their lists of favorite characters.( The Illuminati should replace Black Bolt with Doom.)
@@halloweenbeautyqueen666doom is too much of a wild card, they could put banner back in the ranks or vision
@@ampocalypsew3883 Oh absolutely he's a wildcard, they can never fully trust him, you're totally right! But from a writing/storytelling context? Pure gold. Some "fantastic" (🙄😋) stories would come out of it!
@@halloweenbeautyqueen666 only way for that to work is with JH he truly understand Doom and how he would interact with the heroes
Any bets on who dies in this event? Because someone dies in every event. My guess? It will be Miles Morales. I think he’ll use that change your mind token the Maker gave him as a way to get in with the Maker and then blow up his operation from the inside. He’ll end up saving the 616 universe, but lose his life in the process. Hickman usually brings things from all the way in the beginning back to the end of the story.
Hopefully the ultimate universe.
Rob roasting black bolt will never get old 😂
Also the story is very interesting so far! I wonder what J. Hickman has planned for this all 😮
With the title of this video, I genuinely began to panic.
I thought they somehow shelved the entire Ultimate Invasion storyline.
He doesn’t prevent the origin of Ultimate Spider-Man (1610). He prevents the origin of a Spider-Man we’ve never seen before, in universe 6160.
It’s likely a combination of 616 and 1610. It’s clearly a very intentional number, but it’s a new universe.
10:34 I thought Dr.Strange was dead?
Somethings have changed this is a new place
..Notice u dont see Captain America and u also see Xavier who was dead as well. I said the same thing cuz i was surely jus as confused
Leave black bolt alone man 😂😂😂
I mean it isn't the Ultimate Universe at the end its 6160 not 1610. In Ultimate Spiderman he goes with MJ to Oscorp not Liz so it must be another universe Spiderman.
Removing Spider-Man from the equation causes total chaos. Marvel revolves around Spider-Man existence.
Yeah, it could be total chaos.
Fun fact: the word “ennui” (pronounced “on-we”) is a fancy French word for listlessness or boredom.
When someone like The Maker uses words like this in a comic I can’t help but go look it up
I searched it up too, lol😊
Guessed the pronunciation right but not the definition.
"you got blackbolt nobody cares" had me dying
I can't contain my obsession wiith the Ultimate Universe any longer!!! Thank you Jonathan Hickman. I need to read some of his greatest stories on Marvel Comics, but I'm going to read the entire Ultimate Universe.
His Fantastic 4 to Avengers to Secret Wars is one of my favorite stories of all time! Rob has covered them on this channel
It was too edgy for me. Like it’s just mean teenagers (even the adults) screaming and being awful to one another.
@@AmericaTheSimpleMindedUltimate Spider-Man was great though
@@ArtHazardbest comic fr
@@ArtHazard Yea. But I hate High School stories.
19:52 The Maker interfered with a canon event
I kinda don't like the "Stopping Ultimate Peter from becoming Spiderman" thing. I mean his story was by far the best one out of the entire Ultimate Universe and the way it ended with him being resurrected left a rather sour taste in my mouth, especially after the whole "Death of Spiderman" story which was amazing. So I was hoping they'd give him a second chance to sort of, idk, have more cool stories to make up for the bizarre immortality powers him and Norman got. But maybe it's just to early to say. (Btw wasn't Marry Jane Peter's only friend before he became "cool" later donw the line)
I got a feeling that Marvel is moving Miles back to the ultimate universe as the main Spider-Man.
@@GangstaStan010 so he would leave 616?
@@gannielukks1811 I think so bro
@@GangstaStan010 he is not going back to 1610 he's running hands with carnage bro 💀
I wanna see Archangel teamup with The Maker & get a Signature Weapon & bond with a Symbiote! He's never in X-Books. Bring the best clone Kaine Parker back
I hope they stopped the Cannibal Hulk from existing.
"Reed Richards accounts for everything"
*knows an alternate version of himself with identical biometrics exists, still uses mere biometrics for Baxter building security*
Okay I have to ask now .. if he went back in time to the point of stopping Peter from becoming ultimate Spider-Man what’s that do to miles on the main earth?
Will he just phase out of existence? The idea being If ultimate Peter never became Spider-Man In the first place would the events still play out the same? Is miles a fixed point in reality this whole time? Wether it’s Peter who gets bit and dies eventually or Joe shmowe down the road is miles aways destined to take the mantle?
I think that Miles having been relocated into a different dimension (family and all) made him a little bit resistant to Time Manipulation that isn't on Earth-616
That’s not the case. This isn’t time travel, this is a new universe but made by how The Maker perceives it. Which means this isn’t the ultimate universe that we know of, it’s a universe that he created and he designed.
Miles is alive and well in 616 along with his family, what Reed does there won’t affect him.
All bullets are faster than sound hence all are hypersonic. Ive been shot at Bullet whiz past my head .01 seconds after you hear the shot. Its why if you hear the shot you are not hit.
Video is amazing, i'm re-reading some the Ulitmate universe stuff and I need to get to The Maker. Dude seems badass!
Also at 4:39 ennui is pronounced "on-we"
THANKKKK YOUUU!!🙏🏽🙏🏽finally 🙄🤣i dont think NOBODY actually gets that right tbh
Man I think the maker is the new doctor doom in this universe and that’s scary.
The access code at 1:45 is a cool Easter egg.
The Inhumans are amazing especially when given good storylines and clearly Hickman likes them well enough so I really don’t see what the problem is tbh.
@threedoubleyoudotcom751the inhumans were created by jack Kirby and Stan Lee in in 1965 bro
@threedoubleyoudotcom751 ...what
I wish Hickman had stuck with what Donny Cates had established. I think The Maker being tasked to rebuild the ultimate universe by the council of reeds was a really cool goal for the character. I figured ultimate invasion would've built on that by The Maker invading and stealing the resources from the 616 universe. But i guess not. its whatever, ill read whatever hickman writes.
small correction on the Miles part: Miles doesn’t feel like going back to the Ultimate Universe, because yes, he’s settled into 616. But he doesnt remember the death of his mother or the abandonment or hardened past of his father or the death of his uncle
it’s not that he’s not willing to go back because “there’s nothing to go back to”, he’s not willing to go back because he’s already settled into 616
18:22 so funny seeing Xavier’s suit (which I totally dig) going against The Maker (which suit I too dig) 😂
Something thats probably gonna play a part in this is all the times recently weve seen the ultimate universe survive so my guess is that reed interrupting this huge event will trigger something on the side of the spider totems and the web of life and destiny while also causing miles to feel the direct side effects of this because the spider that bit miles was a direct result of ultimate norman finding out peters identity as spiderman then recreating the research and playing with adding his oz formula to the spider with out peter becoming spider this never happens
Love this channel. Rob, you’re the man. Sorry to do this buddy: Ennui (Pronounced like: On-we). That said, I have never been more excited for the return of the Ultimate Universe!
So, does this take the Ultimate Universe out of the Web of Life? Or does Miles still living in the 616 keep that connection?
1:03
WHAT THA FUK!?!?!?!
A BLACKHOLE INSIDE A BANKHEIST!?!?!!!
(already the best bank heist since "inside man")
Hope to see more Ultimate Kitty Pryde ( maybe even get her own series).
He's pulling a Dr. Manhattan.
Reed: “Do you want to come with me back to our home universe?”
Miles: “Nah… Ima do my own thing.”
Not to mention his life is pretty good he has his mom and dad, includingba baby sister......I hope he doesn't stay in the new universe
Marvel killed spiderman...
And his whole family bloodline and his girl and his kids...
For the 200th time.
I always get a good laugh when you talk about Black Bolt
The way you take shots at Blackbolt every chance you get is hilarious
Will the maker pick and choose his own spider-man that would share his interests ? Wonder who he would pick? Can anyone help
Maybe it’ll be the Harry Osborn of his new universe or someone else, too early to tell.
@@windghost2 eddie brock ? maybe flash thompson ?
Probably Miles since he is Better than Peter in everything
@@Microwave-Man but he decided to stay in 616 ultimate universe won’t have a miles.
@@Microwave-Man That's your opinion, not a fact. But when it comes to current comics? I agree Miles is way better. Though it's an extremely low bar because atp everyone is better than Peter
I don't understand what hate that marvel has with spiderman unnecessarily right now
Given how the Ultimate Universe had alot of gruesome stuff (including cannibalism and Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver having an incestuous relationship) I was not sad to see it go.
While it had some bad things i dunno man i have seen WAY worse in the main marvel continuity
@@valletas It didn't give us Marvel Zombies.
@@muigokublack6487 it gave us gwen stacy cheating peter with normal osborn and having two kids with him... Even if that was retconned later...
Given the current pathetic state of 616, I'd rather head back into the Ultimate Universe.
The Illuminati should just make Doom a full member. They always end up needing him in the end, plus Doom vs evil Reed=🤩🤩🤩
Seeing doctor doom fighting the maker sounds like a cool fight scene I would love to see.
Rob’s endless trolling of blackbolt and the inhumans is accurate and well deserved , they do suck. Never stop Rob!
They do😅😅😅
Jonathan Hickman be like "there are other writers???"
I'm not sure how to feel about the ending of this chapter, he prevented the creation of ultimate spiderman, but that means ultimate peter doesn't has to suffer what happened during that year that led him to his death
Yo that means Peter has a good life
@@ampocalypsew3883And hopefully still have a loving relationship with MJ or just be happy in general.
@@windghost2 I rather mj not be involved I'm so tired of her, if anything Gwen
@@ampocalypsew3883 We’ll see what happens, but the best thing is Peter gets a chance to just live his life and not be burdened with being Spider-Man.
So I’m at least happy with that.
@@windghost2 same
I wish you'd cover Ultimate Avengers. The mini-series they did after Ultimatum. About the Ultimate Red Skull. I think you'd like the big reveal in it, Rob....
So nobody cares that Peter isn't Spider-Man anymore😢, ok.
That sucks that Peter won’t be Spider-Man in this universe.
Heck people don't want to be Spider-Man in main universe too.
Can't believe that the writers forgot to count Ultimate universe Wolverine's son who survived the multiverse cataclysm. And is still currently in Earth-616.
Any guesses on why The Maker really asked Miles to come with him? When he was just going to go back in time in his reality........He could of said to Miles he was going to go back in time to a point his parents are alive. Was that ever specified in? and your just leaving it out? Rob really got me thinking. He never does anything with out a reason. AAAAHHHG I hate Timey Whimey shenanigans !
20:02 The Maker is on some gangsta sh*t, no Ultimate Spiderman, thank you very much 😂
I wonder why they just can’t kill the maker.
8:37, "And the body, (of course), immediately dissolves." As it should.
Everytime Blackbolt is mentioned, Rob in the background "Blackbolt sucks..." 🤣🤣
I hope Hickman is wearing some protection to protect himself from Rob's ball cupping.
The Black Bolt slander is always hilarious😂😂
The Maker really just said "nah bro, I'm rewriting everything"