How to build cane / bamboo arrows
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ธ.ค. 2016
- This video shows how I make my arrows that I sell to customers. There are many way to build arrow, this is how I have found the most success. I have taken over 20 big game animals with these. If you are looking for finished cane arrows, look me up at www.gillsprimitivearchery.com sorry, I DO NOT sell arrow making SUPPLIES.
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"If you want to be a true primitive arrow builder you have to chew your sinew" Slowly reaches for wood glue
Why not tree resin glue?
@@devinm.6149 it is just more waterproof
Coastal Indians also use fish eyes the eye the liquid in them also
Work like hide Glue .
Comanche style bows and crane reeds with knapped sharp stone tips is really the best in my humble opinion, a true refined technology that isnt dependant and can be made on any continent, and everyone should own and ride a horse
Very nice project and well executed!
A few things I 'd like too add:
When im making my bambo arrows for target schooting, I also weigh them and test them for balance. It adds to consistency to have all your arrows with the same weight. If they come out too light I put airgun bbs into the shaft. Also I like insert Tips better, because you can put a wrapping on the outside to prevent the arrows from splintering if you hit a rock.
Just found your channel and would like to thank you for taking the time to make these videos. I'm just really starting to enjoy primitive archery, and helpful people such as yourself really make things easier. There is a great draw to making everything terminal that you will be stepping into the woods with, and is quite addictive.
thanks very much and good luck on your builds and ventures!
Well done, great instructor you are, been watching some of your other videos too. I grew up in the north and made red osier arrows but have been in the south long enough to not have any excuses for not trying cane. Thanks for sharing!
RyanThank you for this video. Best and easiest to understand that I have seen. I liked the idrea of skewers in tip of cane shaft.Rob
That's a great video! That has lit a fire in me to attempt a new winter project. Your stone point videos are excellent as well. Good stuff, keep them coming!
great tutorial Ryan, easy to watch
Nice thorough teaching!
Your fantastic brother thank you for the timely response!! I'm working on some arrows this morning thanks again!
Very good,try to craft my own now thank u sir, greetings from Germany🇩🇪
Great job on that Ryan, I really enjoyed watching it. I learned a new trick with the skewers
very cool and informative video Gill ! awesome arrows ! keep up the great work !
great demo video. I been wanting to make my own hunting arrows for some time now your video has inspired me to do so plus I have tons of turkey wing feathers I have from turkeys I have taking over the years. Can you please show a how to on applying a flint arrowhead to these bamboo shafts?
Sure thing, I've already got you covered. th-cam.com/video/m_-19LW8jq0/w-d-xo.html
@@huntprimitive9918 I hear people talking about using luggage scales, and bathroom scales to measure draw weight of a bow do u think they will give a correct reading.
Very nice quality work brother 👏 👍 👌
Man, I'm sure you cut yourself quite a lot, lol. It's so cool watching ppl make arrows although I really don't desire to do it myself just yet. I know that ppl have been making arrows primitively ever since they first started making bows but the process is just amazing. Have you ever used unwaxed dental floss with glue to substitute for the sinew? I would think that dental floss would be great since it's strong as hell and much cheaper than any material sold by specialty shops for primitive arrow making.
never got an answer...here, maybe this will bump it...
Very nice arrows! Thank you.
Excellent video - well explained
Thumbs up, of course. Question: have you ever experimented with the Cherokee four fletched arrow? If so, what were your impressions?
gret tutorial, no needless blather!
awesome thanks for the post and your channel
Ur customer’s gonna like those arrows
This video actually piqued my interest into making my own arrows. Before, I thought it was boring compared to bowmaking (I guess it still is if I was to make one from a dowel and with a help of a jig).
arrows are much more technical and difficult than bows. ..or rather I should say "good performing arrows.."
I finished my first set and I have to say it was damn satisfying. First four turned out ugly, with uneven cuts and glue on feathers but as I fought the frustration and forced myself to concentrate, they started to come out quite nice. No sinew wraps though, as it's apparently very hard to obtain in my country, but linen thread with wood glue seems to do the job.
glad to hear it. Just takes practice. Thread is a fine substitute.
Where do you find the cane? Also what kind of bamboo can be used? I'm willing to look around to find the right stuff but "cane" and bamboo can mean a lot of things - there's so many varieties!
great, cool technique
I noticed that you added to your more recent arrow video pine pitch glue before tying down the fletching with sinew. Is the modern glue a difference for customer's arrows?
Great video Ryan! How long do you let your cane season before making your arrows? Thanks in advance
I've never made any quality cane arrows, just played around with cane shafts. My question is, how easy is it to cut off the bumps on the nodes cutting from the small end toward the larger end? in my limited experience, it leads to almost a splitting out of the fibers. Would appreciate any input
Curious if you hold the cane right over the flame or if you hold it just above the flame?
Parabens pelo incentivo da archerie primitive e no mesmo institive seys videos são show aoesar q ñ entendo inglish
Could you soak the shaft, warm it up, then suspend it on a string with a weight on the bottom?
I know splitting the feather is fastwe for most ,however I prefer stripping the feather off the pith then I use titebond 3 and sinew
Love bamboo arrows.Hard to get them to weight the same
Ryan how long are your cane arrows and do you weigh them? If so what are they coming in at? The cane arrows I'm making after fletching and attaching stone tip are coming in at 450/500gn to heavy??? Thanks for the advice in advance!
My arrows are 30 inches to the base of the point. The weight varies, mostly because the heavier spined arrows usually are more dense and also weight more physically. 450-500 is a good weight for hunting. I usually like my deer hunting arrows to fall between 525-550 grains
Excellent brother...one question...would bamboo arrows work for deer hunting?
Wish you would have put a nice Arrowhead on that but cool vid awesome knowledge.
I got cane and bamboo growing in my yard .
I've built arrows with bamboo plant stakes. But I have a hard time not getting spines in the 70+ range, without the shafts being needle thin. Does river cane spine lighter for the diameter vs. plant stake bamboo?
It all depends on the area in which they grow. I have cut cane thin yet heavy spined, and likewise I have cut thick stuff that is really like. Soil content and available water make a difference, as well as likely different genetic strands. Thin arrows are definitely not a bad thing providing they do spine sufficiently
'bout time you did another video!
I've been doing videos of different kinds lately. Check on my channel page to see. I have been trying to do one a week. Sometimes fun, sometimes educational.
Ryan Gill I always love your videos man, You rock dude!! Please make some more hunting videos when you can.
thanks much. That is very much on the list of to-do's. As you can imagine that takes a lot of work and time but that is our biggest future investment of time. We have some hunts slated and hope to put out a minimum of 2 hunting videos a year.
Ryan Gill could you do a video on how to make an atlatle
sure I will do a video on that in the near future
I have a question. In my grandmothers house there's a plant called bougainvillea. It grows arrow sized branches so I'm wondering, can I use it as arrow shaft material? Thanks for any response.
I am familiar with the plant, I have one in my yard, but as for arrows I am not sure. I never tried it. The branches on not at all straight. Most any straight shaft can work for arrows so I say give it a try.
Ryan, I live in south florida and would like to know if the proper varieties of river cane grow down here. I've cut some stuff growing along canal banks that were too thin walled. I literally crushed them between my fingers with moderate squeezing.
i think I know the stuff you are talking about. That is a native plant that resembles cane but is actually related to corn. It is really common down there, but not good arrow material. Most of the good cane gets more abundant the closer you get to Georgia.
Could you tell me the brand name of the spine tester you are using.
@HuntPrimitive
I have a lot of issues here with the cane having large nodules where the leaves branch out. Is that simply the type of cane or maybe time of year/ age of harvest?
some of them do have much larger nodes. Different patches often have slightly different characteristics. Check around for some more in another area. However, that large node cane can still work also. I have used quite a bit of it. Straighten it out really well and then grind those big nodes down. Sometimes you can smooth them out and still have plenty of wall thickness to hold the integrity of the shaft
@@huntprimitive9918 Thanks I'm going to stomp around for some better pickings and try to smooth some down. I ran across some since my last post that aren't quite as bad as usually found here, so they may work out after some tooling.
Ryan just wondering how you dry your cane I just cut 5 dozen and have each dozen bundled tight with twine.how long ?
I just cut them and toss the loose bundle up in the rafter for a couple months. They straighten easy enough with heat. wood shafts are different, but I don't bundle cane together
HuntPrimitive Thanks for the info I will cut the bundles open so air came circulate through them.p.s. Your videos are awesome and you do great work on your bows and points and things.
Awesome video - I was wondering though: would river cane/bamboo work for long-draw arrows (around 37 inches)?
yup, it should work just fine so long as the spine is increased a bit
@@huntprimitive9918 Awesome I'm gonna try it out!
@@huntprimitive9918 does cane spine out the same as wood
@@dariuswhite2543 yeah pretty much. Cane however, I've found to be more forgiving than wood because of its natural taper
What a great vid, bought some of these shoots years back and never really understood the best way to utilize them so most have gone to staking up veggies 😕 which I regret now after seeing this, you do make it look easy, you e done this before huh😄 anyway only question I have would be I don't have a spine tester so could you give me an idea on the dia. Of a shaft to be if a guy was looking for a spine of 50lbs. Realizing of course there will be differences in stiffness, Or will you cover this in your more primitive vid on making these, sorry for being long winded
no prob, but the diameter wont mean a single thing. That vary so greatly it wont even get you in the ball park. Without a spine tester, just make some up that are noticeably different spines to the touch. then whichever flies the best, start modeling you arrows to that relative stiffness... be warned though, you'll make a pile of arrows before you get a truly good flying set. Another trick I have used was to intentionally overspine my arrows so they all essentially fly without much paradox. You can actually be successful at this but you have to train your body to automatically hold further right in order for the heavy spined shafts to hit center. I killed a lot of primitive deer with this method. people will say you can't, but I have proven otherwise!
Thanks for the feed back, I've always over spined my arrow shafts, and like you I have found no real issues,
Excellent video dude! I've got the flint knapping down and have made a couple of bows. All I need now is to make arrows that fly consistently and I'll be ready to realize my goal of taking game with primitive gear. Did you buy or build the spine tester yourself?
Great info Ryan.How long do you like to dry your fresh canes?
about 2-3 months preferably
Thanks so much keep up the great work.
I believe their Apache styled arrows.
If you can't get turkey feather's what other ones can i use ??
About how long do you make wooden arrows? Can I make them the same length as my carbon fibers?
It depends on the type of bow you have (bone backed, sinew backed, etc.... as they will typically have more draw capability) or your draw length. But, usually you keep the length of the arrow for a self backed bow at least or less than 50% of the bow length. Trying a 30" draw on a self backed 50" bow ( for example ) can cause a catastrophic failure.
@@yamahabiker1937 Yes, but hopefully you've done the tillering and measured the draw curve already and know the maximum draw length for the bow
great sir i want guidelines on how to do so
did you build the spine tester?
Will that weaken the shaft when you knock off the the rings?
no the amount that I smooth them. If you plane them down far it can weaken the shafts,
I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but this video struck me as funny as to how I got "thumbs down" responses..lol I mean, did you not find my content of good instruction??lol I kill game with these every year and have heaps of very happy and returning customers. ;-) ;-) ;-) th-cam.com/video/qqJSYQ3yytI/w-d-xo.html
LOL! Great instructional video man. Folks that "thumbs down" things like this are probably negative about everything in their lives. If they don't understand it, they hate it. :)Keep on keeping on!Richard.
Hi Ryan I find your videos very informative and very helpful ! I have a question about the diameter of river cane that I need to collect for arrows ? Thanks for another great video and any information you can give !
The heck with them, brah. Your craft is amazing. I gonna hit you up here soon enough.
Anti hunters .... Your vids are very instructional and we love em... Well done and thank you.
hey buddy i have been doing this for a while ,,, heres a tip rose bushes make excellent hard arrows , its a good material to work with you can straighten it , nut it usually grow straight give it a try , you might like it or them ,,, peace be safe ,,,, oh i dont know if you make bows i see a few people making bows here on you tube if you do and use orange osage be careful it is a toxic wood ,,, and its very bad for dogs and children ,, i know and have heard of people eating parts of osage ,,, nut trust me the bartk , and saw dust are toxic ,
nice
Ryan, is river cane the same thing we would call bamboo in Tennessee?
I use to live in TN. It could be river cane (North America’s only native bamboo) or bamboo someone planted. I saw plenty of cane brake there in the volunteer state just going down the highway.
Have you ever tried sumac shafts?
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What is the average cost for a dozen shafts ?
Why would u put the knock on the smaller side rather then the larger side ?
Can you make more arrowd
Sweet🦌😁
which cane is it? tokin or river?
What is the length of these shsfts
i fletched an atlatl spear (a very fat but shorter dart) with corn leaves :D to hold it down i used grass because i wanted to test how a fat lil dart works
sounds like great improvisation!
is a cane arrow strong enough to take a stone point without a foreshaft?
yup for sure. I do it every year. Cane is actually much stronger than dowelled wood.
Ware are you located ?
I do like your videos ,I know I'm stiff sounding and i apologize
Is that organic sinew? Sorry couldn't help it. Sure you've heard it.
haha, yup for sure
Not sure why anybody would do a thumbs down? If they don't like the vid then they can go elsewhere.
haha thanks. I have come to the realization after having a channel that there are some people that go through life on a sole mission to be unhappy about everything.
I can't wait to watch your hunting trip with Shawn Woods
scheduled tentatively for 2018..lol gonna be a little while. I have a trip to Idaho planned this year. Ought to be a cool video, even cooler with a successful kill
Where they smash a bag of kittens with a dispatching hammer
It’s like Bob Ross , but he makes arrows....
That's a ripe blowtorch from the rare blowtorch vine
I tried that that is not easy, mine didn't come out with a flip so so I guess
....i don't have the patience to wait for them to dry....
Can you give a a arrows
" Flechas primitivas " cheio das "tecnologias" 😂😂
Hola podría poner un letrero para los qué ablamos español
Can you give a sinew and turkey featherS
No
Shot a trash panda with one in my yard. Flint tip.
Thr Crows are crowing
My adventure with the tree began with projects from Woodprix.
Great job on the instruction video. I guess two brain dead people watched it. Are you located in Florida?
Copying tradition of Japanese
have... have you even seen japanese arrows?
do a video of identifying proper river cane