THE KING OF ALL AMP SIMS? - Neural DSP Archetype: Petrucci
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Today we're going to be looking at the new Neural DSP Archetype: Petrucci to see if we can get some nice Dream Theatre guitar tones!
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They actually did it. Wow.
Yup!
yes, yes they did. amazing plugin..my poor gt-100 will be gathering dust
How do i automate guitar patches live in FL studio?
Kindly request to make a tutorial on it 🙏
between the roon mics, doubler and metronome i get the impression this is john making his ultimate practice/jamming tool
That makes sense!
Like with LTE where he sent the guitar tracks over to Portnoy, this would be great for demos.
@@michaelraimondi4448 honestly it's good for full on finished tracks like axefx or pod
14:22 That Luck as a Constant solo was amazing!
I bought it as the first Neural product I ever even tried. Holy shit! Seriously, for the price of a single pedal you get more tones than you can imagine and they are all absolutely pristine! This one plugin erases my need for Helix Native. I'm impressed, very impressed. Well done Neural.
Comparisons vs helix native ?
@@lukather1 helix native its more complete but the sound its not that good, you need to dial in a tone for hours to get something good, with any Nerual dsp plugin you can get a brutal sounds in minutes
Neural plugins are geared to more metal styles, so of course you're gonna get brutal tones in minutes. Helix is a modeling system encompassing a lot more than just metal. So, it would stand to reason that it would take some time and know how to dial in what you need with the Helix products. If you know what you're doing, you can do everything with the Helix that the Neural stuff does. Yes, it'll take some tweaking, but you can still get there.
@@majesticpbjcat7707 actually no, they aren't. Many of the Archetype models are jazz and blues players as well as hybrid players like Tim Henson. I've had Line 6, Fractal, and all the rest. I can compere them with a degree of first-hand knowledge.
Line 6 has really decent effects, ok amp models, not much more. You will never get the attack and response of the amp tones here out of a Helix. There is a difference in function and quality. Can I make similar, almost identical functional presets in Helix? Yes. Are the as good in sound quality? No.
This single plugin comes with 4 amps, acoustic, clean, crunch and lead. And, it comes with pre and post effects that are just superior to the Helix. Not just metal. You don't seem to understand Neural products.
@@nudsh I own Nolly, Plini, and Gojira as well as the Helix Rack and HX Stomp. I understand quite well what those all can do as well as the Axe Fx and Kemper. I've also been playing and tone chasing for almost 30 years. Yes, the NDSP plugins are *geared* towards metal. That's not too say they don't have a few plugins that can cater to other styles, but mostly, they're metal centric. You can totally get the Helix to sound just as good as any of those products if you know what you're doing. I don't think you know what you're talking about. I guarantee if you were blindfolded and asked to tell the difference between all the modelers and Neural products against the Helix, you wouldn't be able to. That's a Fact. 5
If anyone owns Nolly or Gojira it boils down to deciding if it’s worth the money for the transpose, room mic and doubler features. For me it isn’t. But for anyone who doesn’t own any NDSP plugins and have been sitting on the fence for a while, then this is the one to get imo.
This is better than both of those plug-ins
Add to that petrucci has piezzo amp that works amazing with neck single coil. Closest is Abasi's.
Petrucci is the most complete as it takes the best of all its predecessors and adds more
That's why it's the priciest one so far
To me, I own Gojira, Abasi and Plini and I have doubler VST so I can pretty much do what Petrucci do with some chaining
@@korayem to me the abasi its the most disapointing amp of all, its good only if you habe a good preamp pedal (ksr ceres, revv g3 or something like that) the Best its the gojira, holy fck good sounds
I assume it is priciest one so far because John gets a bigger cut and because people will pay it
@@kylewardproductions8142 It most certainly is.
Loved all the presets, Keyan… however, I have to share my extra appreciation for the clean/ambient sounds you were able to get. So heavenly 😌
wild. definitely the most "mix ready" release. and that says a lot
I come here every single time after a huge announcement, I know your review is gonna be huge aswell, cheers 🙌🏻
Great run-through. I just bought this a couple of days ago. I also tried a few on the 14-day trial. This is the best sounding - and most option packed - plugin so far.
This sounds amazing, man! Love the clean tones!! But the distorted tones sounds great too. The 10:46 riff tone is awesome. Great demo!
I honestly don't know if anything will be able to top this for a while, hopefully that means the team will be able to focus on updating the old plugins to the new engine, along with everything they've already been doing for the Quad Cortex
Also, two questions
1. When are we gonna get a guitar collection vid?
2. Do you think someday you'll have one guitar for each Periphery signature pickup set? I see you already have both of Misha's and the Polymaths (which sound absolutely amazing)
14:42 cleans delay
6:13 distortion
12:41 lead tone
Ty
Ty from a year later 😂
This plugin is so versatile.
My mate and I downloaded it yesterday and he's even sending his synths through the Archetype.
Just crazyness.
What are his results? I’m curious because I want to do the same
@@theshillpill6937 well i don't know enough about synths to give you a breakdown.
But,the plugin has a free trial right now.
So i suggest you download it ASAP and try it out for yourself :)
The minor 2nd A#/B in the guitars panned hard L and R at 1:59 sounds great. Brutal
The tones in this video are just God tier.
Also Keyan I'm learning how to play guitar from watching your videos so thank you for being awesome haha, but if you could make some videos for beginners or kind of a Playlist of what you'd do if you had to learn guitar over again that would be unreal and I'd be very grateful. But apart from that I love your videos man!
Somehow you always manage to find a way to make these plugins sound good in a way that no other reviewer does. In your hands it always sounds so true to a real amp
I got this Plugin the second they announced it.
I've been waiting for a JP Plugin for so long.
I've been chasing his tone ever since Image and Words with the opening clean part to Pull Me Under.
Ambient delay at 15:40 is simply awesome!
This is so good, what I've always wanted in a plugin is something that replaces my physical amp in the room, not so much something that is built for the studio or for recording. I'm a dedicated bedroom guitarist, so having all these features to make it feel like the sound is actually sitting in a room is exactly what I've been looking for
Love the killswitch ‘save me’ riff great playing dude! 🤘🏻
Love the room mic feature..makes jamming alone way more enjoyable imo
15:52 to 17:25 sounds amazing. Sounds like it's really responsive to the dynamics of the playing.
What is this song??
@@aranrun6785 i’m searching for it too 😭
21:37 sent me back to the Halo 2 ost haha
Great demo as always
Damn! this one looks and sounds great, great vid man
Best amp Sim ever. 15 day trial and purchased it right after getting in and trying it. ❤
You and Milian (Soulhenge) should start a band. Damn, those would be some dirty tunes.
Milian is a super cool dude, he’s got sick riffs too!
@@KeyanHoushmandLive although you have completely different vibes and styles, you’re both inspiring my writing in so many ways more than anyone else online. Love your stuff! Thanks for the content!
@@BrandonBames I could not agree more. (Funny Story, I bought a Chapman Baritone on eBay once, and after chatting with the seller it came out, it was actually Milian. So, I bought the exact one that actually made me want to buy it in the first place through his review on it.😅)
Awesome demo/review! Love your work like always🤘🏼🤘🏼
Can t wait to take it 😈
Try it for free!
@@KeyanHoushmandLive yeeees 14 days thanks NeuralDSP 🤘🏻🔥😈
With the wait list for hardware and typical waiting for re-stockings I can see why everyone would grab a copy of this . Neural's stuff does sound great as soon as you load it.
That’s my favorite demo yet!
I really like your playing man. Cool demo.
19:55 that is a great clean tone
This is the best tone ive heard from this so far, totally didn't steal your setting.
Every time I think Neural DSP has hit their peak, they put out something even better than the last. I finally have the money for one of these plugins but I almost don't even want to buy it because I know another incredible one is gonna come out soon that just blows me away as usual. Dear Neural DSP, can you guys... I don't know... just make something that sucks for once so I can at least narrow down my options?
The Default sounds like the Mesa JP-2C - I got Monuments vibes 😍
I bought this plug in and it did not disappoint. Seriously an easy to use monster. I play my Ken Susi signature ESP with an Evertune and Fishman Fluency setup and it sounds even more amazing than what I was hoping for. Definitely worth the price which at the time I bought it was 80$ US.
They should add the metronome, doubler and pitch change to all other dsp products.
I like the meme on Manny in the intro haha
That opening jam was fuckin awesome dude!
Been waiting for this one, oh the Majesty xD
this totally came out of left field and it's so good!
Thanks mate!
PS - I wish there was a time table for different sections of the review!
i keep it simple, I love your Videos!
The demo mix was sickkkkk
Nice T Shirt, AJFA is my second favourite album of all time.
That delay trail present is pretty as hell!
Damn I’m glad I discovered about this. I was on the verge buying a pod go or something just to get some good tones.
Sub and Like for Mondo Rock. Came for Petrucci, stayed for Ross The Boss.
This vst sound amazing
No surprises!
Scream. Aim. Fire. ♥️
Came here for the review, stayed for the riffs 😍
I really loved it! No different from DAW except the record feature :P
Nice Keyan- lol, I've had this plug for a while now and I've just realized how killer the metronome section is. Yup, they should put that and the pitch knob on all the plugins huh
Sounds great :)
What riff is that at 4:26 ? You always choose the funnest riffs when Youre jammin for these demos
Love that KsE riff! 👌🏻🤘🏻🤙🏻
Neural need to slow the f**k down.. They keep releasing bangers that keep on getting better and better..
Also DAMN DUDE, YOUR PRODUCTION QUALITY IS SO GOOD! And got massive Spiritbox vibes off that demo, sounds so good!
Great video as always. Very hyped for the EP as well. Quick question: what is your take on piracy? especifically plugins and audio related stuff
Buy your plugins, it just makes life so much easier in the long run.
We've all been there and had no money to afford plugins. You gotta do what you gotta do. I've done it and it is way harder to deal with and get it to work. I pirated Helix Native and some other stuff and it just randomly stops working and you gotta re install everything. Just save for a bit and buy it.
I actually compared free trial gojira with cracked version. Cracked version sounds awful. Sorry neural :D
@@KeyanHoushmandLive I agree with this. I used to pirate shit, but it's such a ballache to get things to work, and then in the future youll run into problems with them not working with newer software, etc. Not worth the time spent.
The only thing I went the Somalian route for was with Logic Pro.
When I was younger, in Uni, had no money, pirated everything, didn't have a choice. Now as an adult with disposable income to spend on my hobbies I've gone back and purchased all those plugins and always purchase new ones. Look at it in the context of your life, if you can, do it.
just bought this last night and got a nice discount for being a returning customer. couldnt put my guitar down. this thing has so mant features and presets it's insane
I can see the room feature being great for headphones, first thing you notice when plugging headphones into a real amp (if it has a jack) is that it sounds wayyyyy different, and its because you lose the room sound. Monitors though, are your monitors not in a room lol? That room sound that disappears through headphones, IS the room your in, be it your basement bedroom or a nice studio. If you turn that one through monitors, you're getting double room sound, one from your room and one digital. Everyone who's recorded anything through a mic knows how much the room matters, especially those who have recorded in bedrooms growing up. Even in this video with direct sound, that room sounds kinda like a bad reverb, except for on the close setting. I already have Abasi, and after this I think I'm leaning towards Gojira for my next one...
man those metalcore riffs are nostalgic as fuck haha!
It’s crazy that I paid $400 for Helix native and $1500 for an EVH 5150 III 50 watt stealth and I play through this more than either of those lately. Mostly because I only have one 7 string that I don’t want to have to set up for drop F# but I’ve been trying to learn some songs, and the transpose feature on this plugin is insane
Scream aim fire riff was tight
At least im sure the clean channel is nuts in this plug-in
I believe that's the EP art for 'Black' in the back there? Sneaky lil easter egg
Interestingly, even though this is a Petrucci plugin, that rhythm tone gives me strong Mark Holcomb vibes, especially on Haunted Shores songs
fuck yeah bro you earned yourself a sub!!
Just downloaded the trial and I haven't explored it yet since I got stuck playing a lot on just one preset. hahaha
someone knows what’s song is at 15:40? sounds amazing i’m struggling to find it😢
Hey Keyan, as always great video (been waiting for your take on this)! What do you think - a nice addition to the other NDSPs or an absolute ‘must have‘? Trying to decide whether or not to get it - I have got so many already.😅 Appreciate your insight!
Take care and keep it up! Can‘t wait for your EP. Best regards from Germany all across the globe!
awesome demo keyan,,,i have a 4i4 coming this week and this is the first thing im buying for it,,,,is the sound we are hearing coming from the monitors??im looking at the adam's tv7 set..
thanks..also love the jackson,,,im a jackson guy as well..im also impressed how much this plugin sounds like my markV amp!!
6:30, you played Laid to rest..damn . Since I am the bssist in my band, I bought the Parralax(50% discount). Or else I would have gone for this. Cant afford both at one time. Indian currency
Cool vst
Sure is
Great Tshirt!😁
This looks really nice. Wish I had the cash for it.
You forgot about the built in metronome
They honestly should update their current line of VSTs so the audio quality is uniform
So I recently just bought Archetype Nolly for Black Friday. Not sure if you tried it, but which do you prefer between that and Petrucci?
he has a video on it
Nolly is the most versatile of them all
Nolly is like petrucci but with less cool ui and less feature like room mic and doubler. But it is what i use daily and i can say i don't think i need anything else
@@ubdejones1 a video that was released prior to this being released..
@@Prey.Rock99 IIRC The Nolly is what was used on Holy Roller by Spiritbox. At least in the URM video.
@@apanapandottir205 yeah, also the entire current Intervals album
I've been using pod farm for a while now and I got a new pc for some reason, it doesn't work when I transferred it to my new pc. Which forced me to look for alternatives, this looks amazing, I might put down the money next paycheck!
dude i can listen hours to you playing guitar. when the EP coming out?
Great! I noticed artifacts/scratches in the delay at ca 17:00 when you pushed to notes. I heard this with the delay on the clean tone as well and I heard it at home playing. Any thoughts?
Cool Video
So all you need is:
Computer of course
interface
what budget speakers do folks recommend?
Thanks in Advance
I use this plugin in Studio One. The strange thing is Doubler function is greyed out. I can't activate it. I don't know if it is a bug or I set the wrong setting on my DAW.
Check that your input is in mono
Do you ever play the neural dsp throughout studio monitors, how do you think it sounds ?
Just downloaded it and at the min it’s fuzzy if I’m honest 🤷🏻
nice guitar!
Hey Keyan, personally which pitch shifter do you think gets the work done better? Gojira or Petrucci? (in terms of sound not convenience)
I’m sure they’d be using the same algorithm, so they should sound the same in terms of quality
I haven't demo'd petrucci yet, but I'm not a huge fan of the gojira one. JP one doesn't sound too terrible from the reviews I've checked out but I'd say do the trial and see for yourself. Before dumping your money into it
What drum library did you use on the playthrough?
What you think of the new fl studio update
Killer videos man, what prog do you use for drums?
liked when I heard BFMV!!! hahaaa nice
Would be great if they would sell just the transposer as a low-cost VST. Not aware of any free or cheap alternatives.
I wanted to hate this plugin so much but it's actually awesome
Save Me KSE you are My hero 😈🔥🤘🏻
It would have been cool if your presets were included!
I'm more interested in top notch sim+ir's idgaf about the eq/peddles/room tones those are all extras that can be better had by dedicated hardware/plugins. Is it still worth it since your paying a premium?
im torn between getting this and the andy james plugin from stl
Sounds really awesome. What tuning are you in man. Thanks
yeah, what tuning are you using?
@@Billy_bSLAYER yes what is the guitar tuned to???
How do you use the plug-in with logic please? Im having issues..it says “Error while trying to synchronize audio and midi”. Maybe i’m doing something wrong
Could you put the songs you play ? I love them soooo much